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There are impressions. Mondays, music, mini-episode. Wow, thank you so much. It's great to be here.
I feel like we deserve that. Clap. Yeah. I don't know.
Surprising. This weekend was so long. So long for me. Really?
Mm-hmm. But now I'm realizing it's hormonal. Hor-hor-hor-mono? How do you make a hormone?
Do you know that joke? Hormono. What? How do you make a hormone?
Ew. This is an 80s joke, which is actually good because the songs I'm going to play. This is 80s. Perfect.
It happens. How do you make a hormone? How? You don't pay her.
Ugh! Icky. But a perfect prelude to this Icky 80s episode. I'm going to play some songs from the very first Sabadeau cassette.
Okay. It was called the Freedman. The cassette. The cassette.
The cassette. We made Eric Gaffney and I made a cassette. At first, the first thing we did together was the weed forest and cassette. He just played drums on a few things.
It was kind of a solo cassette of mine called Weed Forest. Gosh, so where is the actual truth to this family tree? How does it actually start? Is this the beginning of Sabadeau or not?
Or is Weed Forest in the beginning of Sabadeau? Weed Forest is the beginning of my collaboration with Eric Gaffney. He was playing drums on my songs that I wrote on ukulele. What is that called?
D-T-U-Kulele. That's called Weed Forest. I know what was the group called. Then we called ourselves Sabadeau.
That was Centrado. This is so fucking stupid. Oh dear. Oh god.
I told the story of Million Trons. Sorry, I need the family tree printed. It's truly convoluted. It's truly convoluted.
It's kind of like, oh the fuck cares. Who fucking cares? It's just curious. Why not?
Why not? That's why we're here. I mean I follow all sorts of means that make sense. Oh gosh, here we go.
Okay, great. This is from the Freedman. The Freedman cassette. No one can stop at all from crashing down the shit.
Pushed a feel something more than just the sound of it. Time, time is the magic truth of story. Sometimes magic is so very, very boring. It's a healthy kind of sick and so sort of quick.
I'm very sad I don't feel bad at all. It's a different sort of same. A crazy kind of same. I'm feeling without a name that they call.
Cause I have my doubts, I know it must be true. I watch the dream die every day, I don't know what. I know it's only fear that makes me wonder. But I won't know what I'm sorry.
Cause I have my doubts, I know it must be true. I watch the dream die every day, I don't know what to do. I'm no one's only fear that makes me wonder. But I won't know why I'm so afraid.
Yeah, I wonder why I'm so afraid. Why are you so afraid? Well, I have my first girlfriend. Living with her, actually, in a dorm.
Eric F. Napping, we're living with our girlfriends in a dorm on Smith College campus. Squatting in the dorm? We were squatting in the dorm.
Bonus roommates. We were. I've told the story a lot. Probably anybody who's actually listening has already heard the story.
But we had set up our for track in this room that was abandoned because the whole dorm, the freedman dorm, it was the freedman dorm, and that's how the tape got its name, the freedman. So I set up my for track in this empty room cause there was one girl who was not goth. And she split because there was a huge satanic scale in the town. I'll try to remember the story.
I thought the goths were hanging like, hanging cats and doing rituals by the railroad tracks. Down near the price chopper. And we had Smith worked. So at the same time.
Great, great. Anyway, I didn't know him then. But he was there. But he was there going to Hampshire College.
This was Smith College. And we didn't even know each other. Anyway, we set up the for track in the room because one girl split. Her parents made her move out of the goth dorm.
So Eric Daphne and I would take turns using the for track. Sometimes we'd record together. But then we used all these recordings that we'd not all of them. But we took some of the recordings from there and some of our old solo recordings and we made sort of a compilation cassette of our two songs together.
So we went back and forth, one of my songs with his songs. And that was the first Sabado cassette. For one dollar, Main Street Records. It was all our main street records, which was this really amazing record store in downtown, Northampton, Massachusetts.
How many did you press? I don't know. A couple of shoeboxes full. That's it.
So whoever has one of those is pretty rare. And this is what I've heard. It may not be true. This may not be true.
I heard the Jack Black bought one on eBay. Oh really? It may not be true. I wonder.
I was just going to say how would one get one now, eBay? I mean, you don't. You don't even have one. No, I have the original, the very original cassette that we made all the dubs off of.
Okay. When we copied the new cassettes, I have the cassette that we copied off of. Sure. So you have the OG?
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Huh? Yeah. So, and it's a really, okay, speaking of bad, you know, just like incorrect, edgy, edgelordy. I would say.
I would say the 80s were a real bosom of kind of like, um, what, inappropriate jokes. Yeah. At that point, it was like you just felt like you kind of had to, that was how you kind of nudged the system a little bit. You know, you kind of tweaked people.
We also lived Northampton and was a very politically correct environment. So being a little edgy was a way of like pushing those kind of the stuffy old hippies a little bit. The boundaries? The boundaries.
Because there was a lot of- The intellectual hippies. Yeah, the intellectual. Because they were intellects, right? Yeah.
They were intellects. They were on the forefront of, you know, from the 60s that, because it's a real, you know, there's a concentration of colleges there, educators. So Eric Gaffney growing up in Northampton definitely felt like he wanted to poke it. Yeah.
And he was funny, and he was sort of became kind of co-conspirators in our first effort. And you were also not college bound, and so you were also, I could see feeling a little bit like pushing against this and, you know. I did. I did, but I also didn't have that much of an attitude about the hippies.
I mean, my friends like Jay, Jay Mascis, they definitely kind of grew up like, you know, like for me coming from Michigan, that was not, I did not have that. That was not part of my world. At that time. At that time.
And that was a different relationship. I'm only interrupting because when you say hippies, they did play a big influence in your life, but it changed then. Because you're saying it didn't really bother you when you were- When I moved to Massachusetts, I was very, I really enjoyed a town like Northampton because I had an incredible record store. I enjoyed the college radio.
I enjoyed the alternative culture. I enjoyed the left wing aspect of it. Yeah. And do you feel like the hippie culture then evolved more to become more left wing?
Or because- I don't know. Well, I'm only asking because you said when you were growing up in Michigan, hippie's scared you. Oh, God, you know, that's a big, long, big story. Right, right.
I'm trying to connect the two. Oh, my gosh, you're really- Yeah, now you're going deep. Okay, wait, hold on. Oh, wait, I'm gonna do.
Massonate is a special girl. A girl that's just like me. She'll share tremendous oral sex and try everything she sees. She won't be insane or hung up like most other girls.
I'll worship her until it hurts because she's on top of my world. I'm a sad man. I can't ignore what life could hold for me. I'll probably have to have sex with a lot of girls.
And the full of my soulmate reveals herself to me. And you are sweet diversion as I stomp my darker way. Don't let your heart get out of hand as I'll step on it one day. Maybe it's too sad to mention maybe I am gay.
A moment or two may shine unsure just to quickly fade away. It's a sad life. Sometimes real sweet girls get left behind. But baby, baby, baby, it's a man's life.
And I gotta tell them everything I find. Oh, I'm a sad man. I can't ignore what life could hold for me. I'll probably have to have sex with a lot of girls.
The full of my soulmate reveals herself to me. To a lot in that song. That was meant to be making fun of the male attitude towards women. That was what I saw.
A cheese maul? The kids in my high school or even my friends. The way they talked about women. Again, very common in that.
A very typical. I felt as a young man. I thought the way we talked about women. I'm just gonna say it.
I didn't approve. It chafed. It chafed. But that song is me making fun of that.
Being macho when you're just a 19 year old stoner. It sort of absurd to me. How perceptive of you. Yeah.
Interesting. But the cassette that we made, that song is on. That cassette, I'm gonna put a censored version of it on sub-stack. And it's also gonna be abridged because I'm gonna take out Erick Gaffney's songs.
Yeah. Because he would be angry at me if I was to make the cassette available with his songs on it. He would be. But basically, I'm gonna put the cassette as it exists with just my songs and the sound collages in between it.
But even then I had to censor it because there's... I was telling you about it yesterday. I was like, I thought, oh I can just put the cassette. I'm like, oh my god, there's stuff on it that I could never...
I mean, you know. A lot of like stuff from porn. Yeah. Yeah.
It seemed really d- I was like, whoa. It seemed dated. Dated a little bit. Yeah.
But sure. Maybe the songs aren't. I don't know. Well I think both of those songs are great for gosh, for such a young fellow to write them.
You know, I listen to them now. When I play them now, I'm like, at the time I was in Dinosaur Junior when I wrote those songs. Oh really? Okay.
I did. But I didn't think my songs were good enough for Dinosaur Junior. Like, I would not have presented those songs to Jay because I would be afraid of being ridiculed. Those are not Dinosaur Junior songs anyway.
It could have been. But they weren't. No. They're not.
And it didn't happen. Yeah. That's okay. But yeah, there's songs though.
Yeah. They're really... Yeah, I was listening to them more intently than typically. Oh, we didn't get to your hippie evolution.
Oh, well maybe we'll talk about that other time. The hippie evolution is something for the history books. I cannot articulate what happened with that. I was talking about your personal hippie evolution.
That's true. I grew up deathly afraid of hippies. Right. Which you mentioned just recently in a more recent episode.
That's why I thought it was funny. Because I thought hippies were bombing buildings and murdering people. Well, they were, weren't they? Well, according to the media they weren't.
According to the media, sure. According to the CIA. See, this is where it gets complicated. This is where it gets complicated.
This is where it gets complicated. What's truth? See, yeah, no, this is... It's truly the beginnings of the great American confusion.
Hippies just annoyed me. I think we're still living through like a bit of a backlash. A bit. I want to talk about it.
It's a full on fucking... Alright. Okay. See you later this week, guys.
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