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Get started at acast.com slash advertise. Hi. Hi. I like that greeting.
I liked that you called me darling. I don't know if you ever called me darling before. That felt nice. I'm trying to counteract a lot of coffee.
I've been over caffeinating. I can't stop. You have. You can't stop.
You have. You bought that a Death Grips coffee. No, what's not Death Grips? That's the name of a band.
Death Wish Coffee. It has a little skull and crossbones on it. And actually, I thought it would be funny to have a coffee named Badmood. Badmood.
Well, I don't know what to say, but I provided the espresso. It's up to you to dol out your amounts that suits your body. I really want you to control more aspects of my life. Okay.
So I should wish I was in your prison. Oh, wow. My love prison. Your prison of love.
I mean, but in a literal sense, you controlled everything. I mean, I just controlled everything. I want you to just be in charge of everything. I can't be trusted.
Yeah. With these things that I myself, it's like I have one cup of coffee. I'm like, that's pretty good. Maybe I should have about seven more.
Mm-mm. That's too many. Well, I mean, I'm here to help. That's what partnership is for.
You help me. I help you. We're locked in each other's love. Locked in love and control.
So I had a show last night. Yes, you did. And I was thinking, I got, I was coming home from the show. I played with Jeffrey Lewis, the very, very talented, unique Jeffrey Lewis.
Nice. God, he writes such good lyrics. But I was coming home and I think I can wake up tomorrow and just sing a song at 10 o'clock in the morning. Mm-hmm.
But, um... No. No. Because you sang a little hard out last night?
Yes, but I did. I did. But I didn't think that I'd strain my voice that much. One song that I want you to hear is one that I've been working on this week.
I actually played it with Jeffrey last night. Okay. And it's a cover from a band called The Shags. Okay.
But you can't sing it for me? You're just going to play the music? I was recording a version of it. I'm kind of like all week.
Okay. I was working on The Shags and then another John Mayer song. I'm going to hold on. I'm so sorry, John.
I'm just not ready to quit you yet. I just can't quit you. I can't quit. John Mayer, I don't know if he has a cool nickname.
J.M. Is that it? I have no idea. That's my name for him now.
Do you need a little J.M. today? Yeah. J.M.
in your day? Mm-hmm. But, uh, yeah, The Shags. I don't know if I've ever played The Shags for you, like, the real Shags.
You mean on vinyl? I don't know anything. I think you have. They're the girls, right?
The family. I'm sure. You have played for me. Mm-hmm.
You remember? I do. They're pretty well known by now. I think someone actually made a movie about them.
I think we've had the same conversation before. I'm having deja vu. But it's sort of a, to me, it's kind of they are the oral equivalent or it's similar to the sense of confusion that something what Captain Befart can trigger. Now, you listen to Captain Befart when you worked at the coffee shop.
Not voluntarily, but yes. Remember you telling me? It was put on the disc changer when I worked at Caraboo Coffee at the end of the day. The airport, the Minneapolis St.
Paul airport, and my coworker and friend, Kermit Carter, would bring in Captain Befart and play it. This is before serious and things like that, everyone, when the employees were still in control of the music before the corporate took over. Yeah. So to meet the real Shags.
But what I did, like, Jeffery suggested that we cover a Shag song but do it normal. When I say normal, it means cutting it down to a more traditional arrangement and traditional chords and then actually more traditional singing because the Shags, it was that a very unique way, very unique approach. Is that your kind way of saying that they weren't known for their singing abilities? No.
They were not. Wait, so they were not known for their singing abilities? No. But they had enthusiasm?
I don't know if you can even say it was enthusiasm. Okay. There was a... Was it control?
There was control. Right. And when it was their father that was controlling them. He wanted to have a girl group.
He did. And he... So the recordings are very unique in that way. To me, sometimes depending on my mood when I hear it I can actually hear pain and the music.
I was just going to say this is actually starting to sound depressing. Song. I'm dancing. So this is fire's nooks.
Okay. You say there will always always be One thing's the opposite way It doesn't matter where you go It doesn't matter who you see There will always be someone who gets a dream We do our best, we try to please But we're like the rest, they're never at it The rich people want what the poor people's got And the poor people want what the rich people's got And the skinny people want what the back was gone And the fat people want what the skinny people's got You can never please anybody in this world You can never please anybody in this world That is a strange song You should hear the original Do you keep hearing podcast ads like this one for example But always wonder how you actually get involved with them for your own brand or organization Well, it's easier than you think We're Acast and we give you the platform to do it all yourself Browse thousands of popular podcasts Choose the shows that match your perfect audience Set your budget and launch And if you want to hand, our podcast specialists are there to help you launch with confidence This is Podcast Advertising Without Barriers Get started at acast.com.com.com. I actually felt myself like my chest tightening as I was listening to the lyrics Because, well, lots of reasons, oh my I don't know about you, but I feel like I heard an angry man Did you hear an angry man in those lyrics? Like maybe bitter?
I don't know, I mean I feel like almost anybody could feel those lyrics almost at any age And maybe especially maybe like a teenage girl Whose father was forcing her to play guitar? But did the girls write that or did they? I think the girls wrote it. You think the girls wrote that?
I think so, you know, I don't know, you know, I don't really know, I should do some research You should check out, I will say, I think it's an odd study in stereotypes To be perfectly honest, that's all I kept thinking is I don't know if people want those things anymore about the other people, I don't know That's what I think that it comes from kind of an immature viewpoint So I don't think the father wrote it necessarily Well, I'm thinking the father is immature, emotionally That's fair enough. Intelligently. That's fair enough. I mean the shags actually, they still play, they played the Wilco Festival out in North Adams a couple of years ago, I believe They're still around.
I just feel a lot of feelings when I hear that, I don't know, I don't know if they're good I feel like I also hear fear in that song. Oh yeah. Yeah, a lot of fear. It's fear based.
Yeah, I mean I lived with that song and I lived with that fear for almost two whole days as I learned the song Because I kind of had to reinterpret it, I had to listen to the original, which is almost indecipherable as far as where the chords are Where the melodic, I mean it's- Song, dancing. Oh god, I said, what is this? I have never heard you play Led Zeppelin. Yeah, that's one of the first songs I learned, I learned that song in sixth grade.
Is that is he? Is that is he? Is he happening? I don't know.
He's probably talking to her. She's probably talking to her. She's probably talking to Alan, her baby alive. She's making Alan a bedroom right now out of a cardboard box.
That was beautiful. I learned that in sixth grade. That's why I can play guitar. I had a teacher in sixth grade.
I was able to go to music class instead of gym. Nice. Because I had expressed an interest in guitar. And so I don't know what maybe my parents talked to my teachers.
I don't know how it happened, but it was Jackson Michigan for us to middle school. I was able to go to a music class. It was like me and maybe five or six other kids. That's really cool.
I can teach. I had this sort of helmet of feathered hair. You know who had really cute feathered hair? Michael J.
Fox on Family Ties. He did. Yeah. It was kind of like that.
The feathered hair thing stuck around for a while. It did. It seemed meticulously combed. I really lusted after that hairstyle.
My hair is curly, so I could never do it. I was very ambivalent about my curly hair for a very long time. This also kind of connects to that Sheg song because you were maybe desiring something you didn't have. I was.
Straight hair and you had curly hair. I wanted curly hair and I have straight hair. I desperately wanted straight hair. I desperately wanted curly hair.
There we go. Anyway, he taught a class of us, like five or six kids, stairway to heaven. We played it just note by note slowly. We learned these songs slowly over a period of weeks.
But because we were doing it as a group, it felt like you could make mistakes. It felt kind of like you had an inimity to what you were doing and your own struggle with the song because it was extremely difficult to play. But because he did that and because it was by rote and it was by, we didn't sit and look at notes. He just taught us by sight and sound.
But because of that, my little fingers be able to make these shapes that to this day, I remember it. I have muscle memory of that song and it made it possible for me to make chords. And to actually have it because it's Led Zeppelin have an inventive way of looking at chords or looking at non-traditional chords. But this guy, I owe him so much.
I think his name was Mr. Burnett. I do not know for sure. I have no way of finding out.
But this guy, he shaped, but I love that he did it as a group. We did it as a group of kids, like this little army, little guitar army. That's so thoughtful and intuitive the way he did it. I'm crying, everyone.
That was very touching. It's early in the morning. It wasn't to listen to you talk about this teacher and that what that impact had on you. I mean, and here you are now a grown up in music has been your whole life.
I did one on one lessons before that and they were impossible for me to negotiate and I hated it actually. I love the group thing too. And I went through a very similar experience when I was growing up with violin. And when I had to do violin lessons in the group, I felt exactly the same way.
Like my mistakes could kind of blend in, you know, and I could sort of hop back in where I left off and instead of like, oh, start and stop and it's just all on me, you know, in front of one teacher or one person, I liked that anonymity as well. I don't know if I've ever really, you know, I mean, like articulated that or figured that out in my, you know, yeah, but hearing you describe that, I immediately remembered I had the same exact feeling of appreciation for that learning process. Well, that was really lovely hearing that and I was watching you play it and thinking so many things like, wow, that guitar sounds really nice. And then I don't know if this is the right way to describe it, but what a pretty chord progression or like whoever came up with that or whoever wrote that.
Jimmy Page. The job Jimmy Page. Although there is some controversy surrounding that. That's the way they say it in England.
That particular song. Yeah, they say that he stole it from somebody. Well Jimmy Page, he was a really, he was kind of like the dark version of Robert Plant, right? Didn't he have like the dark curly hair?
Oh yeah. Yeah, and Robert Plant was like the blonde curly hair. Yeah, like there's a lot of, I mean, I think that Jimmy Page was known to be something of a Satan worshipper. Really?
Yeah, I probably shouldn't be saying that. I don't know. I mean, I don't know if it was Alex the Crowley or that he kind of, anyway, I'm going to stop talking about it because I don't know enough about it. So.
And I'm over caffeinated, which makes it difficult for me to express. On your death wish to. Yeah. It's difficult for me to pronounce things correctly.
Mm hmm. And we did go to bed late because I did have a show last night. Yeah, disrupted sleep night. Yeah.
Well, thank you for joining us for our mini music Monday. Tell us what you think the shag song, who do you think wrote it, the girls or the dad or both? Did they collaborate? Do you feel like it's something people still relate to?
Probably. Or is it all outdated, partially outdated? People will always, the shags will live, will endure there. Oh, I don't mean the shags themselves.
I meant the song. The song. What the sentiment of the song is. Yeah, not the shags.
The song reminds me of a punk rock song, actually. I would say that. So in a way, you're right. It is kind of like, it does feel like a punk rock.
I was, when I was interpreting it, I thought it would be fun to, it would probably be really fun to do as a band. It would be really cool actually interpreted as a punk song. Yeah. You know, yeah, you can see like John Brannett on the stage just really singing it.
You know, and it would be very like, you can never plead hand in hand. That's wrong. Exactly. Yeah.
That's wrong. Yeah, totally. Harold with his back to the audience. Okay, everyone will go forth.
Oh, and also we would like to wish a happy Hanukkah to anyone who celebrates. Happy Hanukkah. Happy Hanukkah. Happy Hanukkah.
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