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‘Minority Report’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan are charged with taping a podcast before rewatching Steven Spielberg’s 2002 sci-fi thriller ‘Minority Report,’ starring Tom Cruise, Colin Farrell, and Samantha Morton. Podcast Manager: Craig Horlbeck Video Producers: Ronak Nair and Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan are charged with taping a podcast before rewatching Steven Spielberg’s 2002 sci-fi thriller ‘Minority Report,’ starring Tom Cruise, Colin Farrell, and Samantha Morton. Podcast Manager: Craig Horlbeck Video Producers: Ronak Nair and Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to the brand new Zach Lowe show that's right I'm back to have the same in-depth NBA conversation you're used to we're going to talk about the games the X's and O's the drama the playoffs are coming up and now you get to see every episode in full on video on Spotify and on my own YouTube channel episodes drop every Monday and Thursday with a collection of guests you're going to love so make sure you follow and subscribe to the brand new Zach Lowe show on Spotify or ever you watch or listen to your podcast let's go. The rewatchable is brought to you by the ringer podcast network where you can find the watch with CR himself Chris Ryan that's right with any green wall as well where you can find higher learning. Yes with wr overtlyVT as well and Midday voice Pew pew pew. There you go you fucking pew pew people fucking pew bill that's right.

My name is Blannis. We're going to the do our 17th Tom Cruise movie on the rewatchable see she's just he's like Barry bonds in 2002 he's just batting field a classic minor order Pel but now have a warning. my pocket. Alright, my no-order report.

Ciara has been floating this and suggesting this for a long, long time. He's wearing a Master's hat today to try to really capture the magic. Is this Master's today? Yeah, that's right.

If you had to pick, is this a Tom Cruise movie or is it a Spielberg movie? I think it's a Spielberg movie, but I don't think it works if it's not Tom Cruise. Oh, yeah. The ingenuity of it, the vision of it, the creative flair.

I think in some ways it's one of Steven Spielberg's most swagged out movies. He is doing stuff in this just to amuse himself, just because he can. It's like watching him play left-handed. Just like, ah, I'm going to try this.

I'm going to do that. I'm going to do all my coverage with camera movement. I'm going to go up a building. I'm going to jump off the building.

We're going to do all this stuff about the future, but we're not even going to explain how it works. We're just going to run right through it. It's so fast, it's so energetic. It just feels Spielberg to me.

What do you think, Ben? It's definitely a Spielberg movie. Around the same time, Spielberg was messing around with the darker side of Spielberg stuff. He's doing this, he's doing AI, and even World of Worlds with Tom Cruise again, is a little bit of a darker Spielberg take.

He's getting a little bit more intense with it. In those movies, to Chris' point, is when he's really showing off how technically brilliant he is, just to build tension using the camera and his mastery as a director. Yeah, it's almost like he's like Jordan just being like, you think I can't do this? What's your depict now?

Then he would just come up with something to show up down with her. He's sitting in private Ryan, and he's done Schimler's List. He's not on Amastad, he's done these heavy movies. He does heavy.

He does heavy. Besides not that heavy. No, well, maybe not for you, Bill. Do you have the comedy, Coach?

I would say, I like to think of Bill on a Saturday, like I want to feel good, I want to know. I'm just not sorry. The deleted scenes are getting out. Now, Amastad and Munich are two of the heavier movies.

But that's what we're getting on Schimler's List and Save Your Private Red. We've actually done a couple of these now. We haven't done AI, but he does AI, which is this also extension of Kubrick, right? Because Kubrick was originally going to do artificial intelligence.

He's going to do a report and catch me if you can. We've also done rewatchables. The terminal, but war of the world is like he's just working. It just seems like what I want to do is get into the gym and try this and try that and try this.

I do feel like this is the tail end of whatever crazy all-time apex he had, right? Probably tailing off around the mid-2000s a little bit. He's getting older. I think this is the most creative movie he made during this whole stretch though.

Even the way the color correction and the stuff, my guy, Janus Kaminsky did. He told Janus I want this to be the ugliest movie I've ever made. It's bleached out. It's just really like distinct.

There's a little tension in there. When you watch the film between traditional Spielberg visuals and how this movie is probably supposed to look and supposed to feel like there's a version of this movie directed by David's Tensor or something like that with a darker palette and a more clear aesthetic and narrative kind of thought about the mill. That's a lot darker and that's a lot more intense. You can look and see the Spielbergian notes throughout the movie.

There's like little wacky parts that put it in some of the chases where they're really intense and there's the part where he's the women are the contortionist. It's little parts where he pulls you out of being a little bit too dour about what's going on and reminds you that you're watching the Steven Spielberg movie. One of the things I was wondering is there's that whole new generation of directors that come in the mid 90s, that next class that's a little reminiscent of what he had in the 70s and PTA and Fincher. All these dudes kind of coming up.

And this feels like the most fincher-y type of movie I could have made and I really wonder if Fincher either inspired him or made him competitive. They ever thinks Fincher is a genius. I'm going to fucking out Fincher. I wonder also whether or not audiences have shown an openness to a certain level of grime.

It's a little bit more dirt, a little bit more smudge on the lens. The room isn't tidy. People are a little bit more fucked up. It was definitely in the air in that 90s into the early 2000s turn I think.

So, I think internationally. Internet we're starting to be like, oh shit. This is going to be part of our lives. Where's this going?

Well, and then the crucial, I'm sorry. No, no, go ahead. I mean, I'm saying a little bit more of the dystopian stuff is starting to take over sci-fi. This is post 9-11.

Post 9-11. Post the Matrix. So, you're in a business. I can't wait to talk to him.

Hey, but that's a big part of this film when I watch it. I can't get that right. This movie has some really interesting future. I can't wait to talk about that.

They get a little bit right. I'm saying maybe Spielberg and other people looking at it is like the high concept sci-fi that you're looking at now is a little darker. Not that that didn't exist before, but people were actually going to it and craving it a little bit. I have seven genres happening all at the same time in this movie.

It's a Spielberg movie. It's a Cruz movie. And I think CR is right. Cruz is essential to this, which we'll get into.

It's a sci-fi futuristic thriller. It's a cop movie. It's a fugitive movie. It's like a psychic.

How much do we know about the future? Do you believe in this shit movie? And it's a free will versus determination movie, which is probably like the biggest theme in the movie is how much can you control of what happens? Yeah.

Can I add two more things to that? Let's do it. I already have seven. I think it's his Hitchcock homage.

So much vertigo, North by North West stuff happening in this, especially North by North West. All the chases, all the man wrongly accused on the run stuff is right out of Hitchcock's and with Hitchcock's best movies. And then it's essentially a Philip K. Dick thing, which I don't think I really knew at the time because I hadn't really read a ton of his stuff in O2.

But a lot of the side characters, a lot of the conception of the future of us being constantly surveilled of us all being hooked up on our devices and all being mildly addicted to drugs is all out of Philip K. Dick. And he obviously wrote this. Are you a Phil Dick guy?

I am a Phil Dick guy. Yeah. I actually went on a little Phil Dick run recently. You feel dicked it up?

I got a category later for the Dick Lovers up here. Well, so the things from that book are he has a pre-crime police department that apprehends criminals. He has the pre-cogs and it's in DC in 2054, which by the way, van is now less than 30 years away. Yeah.

You know what I was thinking, are we closer to the actual imagining of the great question of the world in 2054 or are we nowhere near? Do you feel disappointed? I feel like we're so far away from the cars and the traffic, how they manage that in here. Oh, God.

Yeah. We're like seven. I can't even build a train. We can't build that stuff.

I had to stop myself from like legitimately following Waymo's in the neighborhood. I would see a Waymo in Kalika. Kalika goes, there's nobody inside of the Waymo. And I'm like, what the fuck?

I see it all the time when I'm walking around. Every time I notice, I'm just like, there's nobody driving that ride out. You want to follow a Waymo's but just like one block and see if the Waymo is up to the task. I never see anybody riding in the back of the way.

Sometimes you want to throw the Waymo curveball, just like run out in front of you. I always think about that. You know, you also don't want to be the one guy that dies. Like fuck it.

Yeah. What happened to this guy? He was testing the way. The way most fuck you.

I mean, the problem with the way most from what I've seen walking around is they're better drivers than all the actual drivers. Yeah. But you need basically to hit a moment where there are more Waymo's than regular drivers because otherwise they're just like totalling along. Yeah.

And it's like, I think right now there's they're more in the way than they are. You're behind a way. You're like, what a way doesn't take that less like you can go on the left here. Yeah.

Go away. My great grandfather passed away in 1987. If I could have a conversation with him and I could say big papa. He'd be the first thing you told him.

I would be like, yo, I'm in a place right now where the cars that drive on the street with no drivers and they drive people around. Yeah. He couldn't even imagine that. He was born in 1900.

It's nuts to think that the Waymo is here. And it's not that big of a game. I haven't ever once in a while with my mom or showed like what are you doing when I'm looking at my phone and I'm like, well, I was looking at a cat and now I'm looking at British Parliament. She's like, what do you mean?

She's like, honestly, you just go like that and then something else comes. Yeah. Craig, where does your generation stand on Waymo? I think honestly we're all in.

A lot of my friends take Waymo. It's cheaper. They're like, they're doing that Uber thing where they're floating the market with cheap prices. So everybody used to have you had like, oh my God, I'm going to die at a Waymo moment.

I admittedly have not taken one. Okay. Oh, you have no big way. My son, Ben Simmons actually signed up early for Waymo and was using it before we knew it was going on and we found out and we were freaked out.

It's like, there's nobody in the car. It's just you. They don't do freeway. Right.

So just driving around the neighborhood. He's like, sometimes I get in the passenger seat. Sometimes I sit in the back seat. There's nobody else in it.

Apparently he said people are getting busy in the way. Obviously you immediately lose your Waymo pass. If you're in the Waymo, the first thing you're going to think is, yo, this is the fuck train. Get on it.

But they're watching you in the Waymo. The Waymo sex tapes are going to be so crazy. Whoever hacks into the Waymo sex tapes, it's going to be. Have you seen some of the Waymo attacks where people have destroyed Waymo's or tagged them or tried to surf on top of them and stuff?

It's when the real repo man of LA comes out. I think it's going to be a big summer for people to torture Waymo's. Back to my order for you. Is that prediction?

Connection. Coming up next. I'll tell you why Waymo is getting tagged up. Spielberg was really, really passionate about figuring out 2054.

So I'll do some of the research stuff now. Consulted scientists, invited 15 experts to Santa Monica for a three day think tank where they talked about whatever the future is going to be with architects. Douglas Copeland from Gen X was there. The guy who wrote that.

Computer scientists, all kinds of people. They made a 2054 Bible, which was an 80 page guide. I was looking for a line. I had all the aspects of their future world.

It is a PDF or an Apple book. He said a Roger Ebert. I wanted all the toys to come true someday. I wanted to be a transportation system that doesn't emit toxins into the atmosphere and a newspaper that updates itself.

The internet is watching us now. If they want to, they can see what sites you visit. In the future, television will be watching us and customizing itself to what it knows about us. The throwing thing is that will make us feel like we're part of the medium.

The scary thing is we'll lose our right to privacy and add will appear in the air around us talking directly to us. I'll let you just fucking happen. He said this in 2002. Here's the best part about what he did though.

All this research, he imagines the world. He figures all this stuff out with scientists. He has a Bible. But within the realm of the movie, it all happens as part of the action.

They never stop and say, you know, we invented self-driving cars in 2034 and they became perfected in 2041. They don't even have toxins. I didn't even think they didn't have toxins. It didn't even occur to me.

So you said that. But I was thinking about when, when Andrewton in this movie, his first on the run, he's walking through the mall and all the ads are starting to pop it. That's the first time you see the curated personalized advertising stuff. It's five seconds.

But you're like, holy shit. What is going on in the future? What is going on in this world? Now it's very different to watch this movie in 2025 and be like what you're saying within touching distance of all of this stuff basically being true.

But honestly, none of the good stuff that seems to come out of minority report. Do you know what I mean? I do. I also think that the movie is like one of the best parts of the movie is the world building that it does, right?

It does it all very softly, but very definitely. Like he's walking through there and you realize, oh, there's nowhere he can go and not be recognized. How is he going to get around that? And then that sets up to me the most disgusting, but also the most fascinating scene in the movie where, obviously when he gets his eyes replaced, which is like a movie.

It's just like that Spielberg is going like, you know me for making kids fly on bicycles. How much can I discuss you and disturb you in one sequence? Right. But it all happens seamlessly.

There's never a point where the movie seems like there's a specific point that it's trying to make to you. I like that they use DC and he talks about this where sometimes in the futuristic movies it just has no link to what things look like now. So they use DC and they still have a lot of the same landmarks in DC, but it's just kind of a twisted futuristic. Which I thought was smart.

The stuff that I thought worked and tell me if I left anything out for futuristic stuff. That just was cool. The police helicopters. Yeah.

A little. Yeah. Like I feel like we might have those 29 years from now. I recognition that's already happening.

You could walk into. That's clear. Yeah, that's clear. That's clear.

That's just staring in and then they know you're making you scan your witness to watch the Clippers. They will they stay when you walk in they scan your face and whatever and you don't have a ticket. Are you serious? Yeah.

Why the fucking clip? Yeah. Listen, I don't have to wait in the line. They can have all my stuff.

I feel like you got to have a championship to scan my face. I'm not letting the Clippers scan my face. What about making the Western finals? Well, maybe.

Maybe. But they can't come on me. They have more. They have my face and they can scan all they want out of it.

What's the drug in this? Clarion? Nurnin. Nurnin.

As two thousand fifty four fentanyl basically. Yeah. Like this new drug out of nowhere. Yeah.

But a little bit also I think supposed to be. Nelming and a hallucinogenic. Yeah. Which is a very full K-Dic thing.

He has lots of I just read a book of his where it's like everybody is taking a drug and looking at a little model of reality and they go into the reality. Wow. You have some Phil Dick energy today. Phil Dick.

Yeah. I'm on the drug part of it because he's actually life obviously. He's a drug part of it is always a staple part of the future for him. Yeah.

I think he got down a little bit. He did. Phil. Yeah.

Phil. He liked to get wet. Face time is in this movie basically. Giant, giant awesome clear TV's.

They saw that coming. I liked how they did the highways. I don't know how realistic that is but the car that leaves your place and bounces in and suddenly you're driving and then we talked about earlier but the targeted virtual sponsors and them all. I do feel like that's probably where we're heading.

We're seeing that where your phone can hear you talk about something and also your serve the Instagram ad. Also the idea of everything that you do coming with a 15 second ad as like payment for it. So you think about it when you're signing up for Wi-Fi and you've got to watch the ad for 15 seconds. The way that the mall looks in minority report is essentially what the international terminal of LAX looks like.

Like when you're sitting there there's like 15 giant billboards just like you really do feel like your brain is getting melted by advertising in there. Also in the movie there's so much that's automated and stuff. There's so much the future is so regulated for you that in a weird way the human interaction and the stakes in the film they're like they're raised. I feel like that kind of now is like when you are walking through the world and so much of what you're doing is like in this digital world that when you actually talk to a person it almost feels like the stakes are higher or like what you're saying is a little bit more important because when he's because there are parts of the movie where he feels like it's technology against him but then when he gets with Agatha it feels like okay there's a person on the other side of it.

Now it's about how her essential human gift which is like all mystical and ethereal can help him out of his situation against the technology that he's up against. I can't wait to talk to you about Agatha. Cruise and Spielberg together zero movies up until this point started developing this in 97 mission impossible to ran over AI ran over they were basically like the two guys who kept saying they would have dinner together and it's never happened. Yeah no we're gonna have dinner and then all of a sudden it happened but Spielberg was supposed to do Rayman and ended up doing indie three instead and then it finally happened.

This movie has the following production companies in it DreamWorks, Amplen Entertainment, 20th Century Fox, Cruise Wagner Productions and Blue Tulip which is Yondubon's company. You're big yonder by guy. But Cruise and Spielberg they took 15% of the gross to keep the- This is this Spielberg old story. That he's big bad on yourself guy.

They wanted to keep the budget under 100 million. You know it's actually learned about that entire method of getting paid through the career of Tom Cruise. Yeah. Because someone will go yeah Tom Cruise made 100 million dollars for War of the Worlds.

I'd be like how is that possible and then that's when you understand the breakdown of his production company and how you can make it and split it back into all that stuff. I had no clue about any of that stuff until he kind of made London. And this is kind of for what it's worth. I mean part of the reason why film budgets now seems so out of whack is people get a lot of their money up front now.

Right. Because there's a little bit less dependability. Because the studios figured out ways to cheat people out of some of these points. So this movie costs 100 million makes 400 million or whatever.

They're like it only made 5 million right because we had to spend this much on this. Cruise is director less. This was Pete Cruise. So I'm gonna do tears.

This is just everybody he works with from Tony Scott on and we'll go like Pass Cocktail. Scorsese, Spielberg, Kubrick, DiPama, Sidney Pollack, Barry Levinson, Ron Howard, Oliver Stone, Tony Scott, Rob Reiner, PTA, Neil, and I'll go. Neil Jordan, Cameron Crow and John Wu. And then his next four after this movie were Michael Mann, Ed Zwick, Spielberg and Abrams.

Tom Cruise laying down the blueprint. And now Leo followed it and then Shallam is like that's what I'm gonna do too. And that's the movie. I feel like CR would pour himself out a couple of times.

This is how you run your acting career. If you're lucky enough to be like, if you just say I trust the best directors working right now, like you will probably work really great. If you get to the position that he got to, you can. Yeah.

Like I'm saying like he could and he kind of spins the most recent act of his career working mostly with Macquarie and mostly on big blockbusters. Yeah. He's gonna do an interview to movie next after mission impossible. That'll be like his return to like film film or whatever.

But his run here is inspirational. I think for anybody who ever achieves like any notable amount of success and has opportunities. It's coming off. Eyes wide chat, mission to and vanilla sky.

The next three after this last same or I, Corateral. Corateral. Oprah's couch. Oh yeah.

Yeah. War of the world. Who directed Oprah's couch? Well, I'm just saying this is the timeframe we're moving into.

He's broken up with the cold kid man. Cruise is just about to get his weird on. We don't know this yet. In my earlier report is this the official end of Tom Cruise's prime radio.

2002. Yes. No, he's bringing still no baggage really whatsoever into my report. Now we know baggage.

I think we've talked about it before. There's an interview with him and Sway. No, I brought this up on the podcast before where Sway actually looks at Tom Cruise and goes, you know what? For all of your stardom, you're just one of the celebrities that just seems like they get it.

You just get it. Like you were this Herculean everybody. What year is this? This is maybe like this might be missing, missing impossible to promote run right here because it's MTV and he's talking to him and Tom Cruise is just not just the biggest movie star in the world, but he's like America's nice guy and there's no edge.

There's no, of course there rumors about his personal life, but all of that stuff doesn't really matter that much. We don't really have an understanding of Scientology as an actual thing. We don't like know what it is. And then boom, like four or five years later, there's like this Anakin Skywalker turn where he's berating Matt Lauer in the morning on the morning show.

He's jumping on the outside. When you're with that? It was right at mid 2000s. Yeah.

Because I was going to say that for me that probably the real drop off, even though Mission Possible 3 I actually love, but it's probably that's that's often. Yeah, that's a great way to make something. He makes the topic under cameo. But that's oh, wait, that's a way that's going to be a cool.

The hardest drop off for me is night and day because night and day is a movie he tried to sell really hard, like as if it was going to be this giant blockbuster. And I think it was a disappointment over. And then after that, it's like ghost protocol, Rock of Ages, Jack Reacher, oblivion. It starts to be basically only Mission Impossible is how we want to consume Tom Cruise.

But even Edgy tomorrow is very telling about his career because edge of tomorrow is to me. It's the worst. A rapper gets to a certain point. So we're like, you come along, you're building your careers, a rapper.

And then for the reason hip-hop just goes, we're finished with you. We don't like you anymore. It doesn't matter how dope the music that you put out is, we've moved on to new rappers. And so there are guys and you'll be trying to tell people, hey man, I don't know if you know someone else who just dropped a crazy album, they just don't care anymore.

And so when Edgy tomorrow came out, that wasn't like oblivion or some of those other movies that were up or down. I enjoy Jack Reacher, but you could take her to leave it. Edgy tomorrow is legitimately awesome, fantastic sci-fi. I like Jack Reacher.

I like Jack Reacher. But it kind of lands with a little bit of a thud. And that's when you go Tom's in trouble. That's when you go, he actually made a good album and nobody cares.

I almost had a word of mouth run because people are like, no, no, it's really good. That whole thing was like, what's the movie called? Is it called Live, Die, or is it called Andrew Tomorrow? And I think it was a little bit ahead of its time in popularizing some of the next year stuff.

Have you guys watched the Oprah's couch clip? I have. I haven't, but I watched the thing we based. Remember we did Clay Theism at the Ringer in like early days?

And that was based on him in the turtleneck talking about Scientology. The Oprah's couch thing. It became kind of like a go-to joke and we only would have meant, but I don't know how many times people have actually gone back and watched how fucking insane it is. It's just this audience of crazy Oprah, lady fans just losing their shit every time he gets excited that he's finally in love.

And the Oprah's like, I've never seen you like this. And Chris is like, I know, I know. And then he just starts jumping up and down and it's like, what is happening? It is way crazier than I think it gets credit for.

At least one of the craziest celebrity moments ever. But there's a crazy, trifecta. There's that. There's him being just his furious at Metlour.

Yeah, yeah. And then there's the other thing where he's whatever the video from Scientology leaks. And he's talking and he's like, yeah, have you ever met him before? I'm like, oh fucking shit, Tom Cruise.

Yeah. God damn it, we're a palatine. What the fuck is going on? And then I love the guy, but he's fucking batshit.

Oh, no, no, no, no. He's a maniac. He's really like, I don't know. Okay.

So this is a dark time in time. I don't know what to get into the. But he really has taken all of that goodwill back. In my opinion.

I agree. Yeah. He's taken all of that goodwill back. Listen, we love Tom Cruise.

But yeah, there's been some moments where we're like, oh, yeah, okay. It's like if you're at like a holiday dinner and you have that one uncle, who's it seems like it's going great. And then they just say something absolutely insane. Yeah.

After two glasses of wine, you're like, oh, let's think about this the other day about how he kind of inverted the way actors typically would progress throughout their career. He does all this great stuff with great directors when he's younger. Yeah. Then he hits a certain point and he's like, I'm just going to make action movies.

And I'm just going to throw myself off of stuff, even though he's getting increasingly older and probably that's more and more dangerous every time he tries that stuff. This is probably the perfect mix of acting Tom Cruise in an interesting speculative piece of sci-fi drama, conspiracy thriller, and running Tom Cruise because he basically runs for this entire movie because everybody runs. But I love that like it's this weird thing where you'd expect, oh, as you get older, you're going to settle into being like, I'm Paul Newman now. I'm going to play a guy who's having a midlife crisis.

But we always talk about this. Cruise never had his the verdict. Yeah. He's never did it.

Also, we got to a point with Tom to where we just appreciated what he was willing to do to entertain us. He's willing to live this mysterious, almost monastic lifestyle. He's willing to get on the plane. If you look, you got on the couch.

That's one thing. But if you're willing to get on the side of the plane, if you're willing to jump off of, you just I'm going to be like, yeah, I'm fucking with this guy. If you're willing to get, I'm watching it. I'm like, is this motherfucker on the side of the plane?

Is he actually on the plane? And I think it was those things that kind of like, in a era where it seems like people sometimes force me to shit. It just seems like he still gives a shit about making the movies. Let's take a break and then we'll hit the rest of this and get to the categories.

Supporting cast in this movie, including a very young, our guy, Con Farrah, CR and I did a pod with him. What was that? 2018 in person? Yeah.

And this is right when he was being like paraded around like this is the guy, you know, it was after, you know, to tie your way in. This could be the next guy guy guy. Yeah. And then he's like, I'm going to go mid 90s kind of moment.

It's like you might be hearing from this guy in a real way now. I put it as his Jude law, radical role. Jude law. Yeah, exactly.

So where is like a ether hogs deleted is, but there's this new guy Jude law and we're going to give him time to cook a little bit because he's going to be on the top of the top of the building. It's like Billy Jacoby and just one of the guys. Same thing. It's like, this is a Joyce Heiser movie, but but this is really a watch up game behind the watch.

Yeah. Just one of the guys. The little brother, the comedic genius. Yeah.

Billy Jacoby. As I'm distracted by just one of the guys. Yeah. Okay.

So I'm going to go back to when we talk about the pre-cobs later. The movie, the Morton as a pre-cog. Yeah. Max FunSidos.

Max FunSidos. Yeah. You got Max FunSidos. Yeah.

The Evil Nazi from Victory, we lost a man. Catherine Walker. Thanks for making it because. Are you talking about just one of the guys?

Yeah. Okay. You weren't expecting it because she does it. You're like, Oh, and it's a PG movie.

And it's like, not only is she a girl, but she is a fucking woman. Yeah. Wow. Throw a cowboy hat on him and put him in anything you want.

And he's ready to go and walk into the rock and crack guy. Yeah. Like just a working man. Love that guy.

Music by John Williams. Send me an artistic vibe by Scott Frank. Yep. Spielberg.

I'm nominated for an Oscar for sound editing, and I really want to litigate this. Okay. Best picture that year. Chicago wins.

Gangs in New York, The Ours, Lord of the Rings two towers. Penist. Director. Polanski wins.

Rob Marshall. Roger Holmes. Rob Marshall for Chicago. Pedro, I'm out of our I'll do I'll do I'll do I'll do I'll do whatever whatever talk to her um Spielberg just shut out.

Yeah, I mean in a really weird way when and this almost feels like a little like people are like alright Steve enough he has the shillers private Ryan run maybe like where everybody's just like you're good now I know this was I don't know I mean like when you watch this movie and you watch Chicago Which I have not just movie versus the Lord of the Rings like really alright. You're gonna get Jesus Christ fucking guys in your mentions Right? It's going at you know what are you doing? What it means is a talk about the two towers he is I might as well use my norator part Have you seen Lord of the Rings two dollars?

Showed ass in it. Yes. Yeah, I was good I think what hurts it though is we don't have the nine movie categories at this point It's a movie category makes it director. We could argue about also Spielberg has LeBron James syndrome You could basically give him a best directing not almost every film that he directs.

Yeah, so it's probably he's probably competing against himself They realize rich Paul was here. Oh, she's don't you know You know that you're gonna tell us that the boss wasn't part of the big Show asked him shot at the role and get in the ring the mortar It wasn't a big three Chris Bosh Chris Bosh was eventually by the Michael Jordan syndrome He's directing against himself and if he is directing against himself I know it ain't for is not gonna be a movie. I should be like oh my god. He has a good nominee I can ever tell if rich really likes being on Mackerey.

I don't know man. I'm Let's move on hundred two million dollar budget. I made three hundred fifty four million dollars. Yeah, yeah Roger Ebert what do you think man?

Stars three and a half stars four stars four stars. I can see him. I'm just gonna read this because it's really good American movies are in the midst of a transition period He's right Spielberg who is a master of technology trust only story and character and then uses everything else as a workman uses his tools He makes my no report the new technology other directors seem to be trying to make their movies from it The film is such a virtual is well So high wire act airing so much achieving it with such grace and skill minority report reminds us why we go to movies in the first place Oh, Raj is like fucking it's like a four and a half stars. Yeah, it's like a day melter five star match All right, we're gonna categories most relatchable scene Howard Marks is about to kill his wife Yeah, I just let's just say up front there are great scenes in this movie But this is a great sequence movie where it'll be like one scene bleeds into the next you know to be chasing to a chase Yeah, it's difficult to say like whether or not it's are there three scenes in the hour marks thing or a scene after that the Power Marks is red ball.

Yeah, so we learned that the the red ball killing still occur It's like they don't spend ten minutes explaining it. They're just like oh, this is a red ball It's like what's a red ball and just kind of get sucked in right and the idea is basically a premeditated murder is almost extinct because people know They will be caught yeah, one of the cool things about this movie is this is a pretty far-fetched crazy premise and you get it within 10 minutes Yeah, it's like we're trying to stop out This is the pre-crime division trying to prevent all crime with these three fucking bald women in the in the water Who can see stuff ahead of time and if they tell us they'll send a red ball and we got stopped before it happens Yeah, yeah, and I get it and like the passion of the crime and the humanity of it matter right because they can't there are a couple Crimes they can't stop yeah, but murder is it triggers the pre-cogs I mean I like a merry-go-round thing where cruises like with his hands moving yeah, and then figures out that it's merry-go-round Good scene on around next one cruise figures out the Leo crow murder and sees himself No a very cool scene that is Just a brilliant scene. He's got the people up there. He's got his guy behind him He has to steal the ball and he's figuring out for himself the shock of this while I always say that and people say Tom Cruise is actually underrated as an actor to me totally agree He's because when you see everything that's going on He's doing so many different things emotionally and the audience is basically reading it from his face and it's fantastic You're talking to a guy who thinks they should have been nominated for cocktails so for cocktail Yeah, he's amazing.

This is remember when we were doing wick and we talked about the moment wick goes up to the nightclub bouncer Yeah, that until he falls off the balcony in the nightclub and it's like 11 minutes or something like that I'm like that's like the best 11 minutes of action movies the moment from when Wally says I like you chief That's why I'll give you two minutes before I get more 40th minute to where Anderson pulls out in the new car is 55 minutes. It's a 15 minute run Wow, and it is fucking pure. I have to yeah, I have almost two scenes in there Yeah, I feel like I I feel like Jack Sanders would give me two minutes to get out of here. Oh, yeah I think I thought you give me the two minute.

Did you just make Jack the weird fucking table pre-call It was a compliment I just think Jack would do that I like you cheap. I'm gonna give you two minutes I wouldn't tell me right away Here We're kissing You stop the elevator I recall faros good. That's a great thing we get a two thousand fifty four car chase We get max fun side out now that you see this movie See see that yeah, just for all my max guys out there. You know, I just think what you do it.

Yeah max on C. Yeah As dr. Charles Nichols, would you realize this as you're watching this? Yeah, I mean if you know Richard Love that guy in those movies this is to this as the I like your chief guy I love when that guy's in any movie where it's guys like I could probably but just go and then I'll do it Yeah, and then the Charles Nichols and then Cruz jumping on the Jetson scars.

Mm-hmm. It's phenomenal And then which leads the next scene I just wrote down Cruz gets away from me guys Cruz runs Pete Cruz running fire escape jet pack fight. Yep, Cruz jumps 50 stories possible nitpick because he's climbing a fire escape for like what nine stories, but then falls 50 stories Oh, just it's got it noted. Um, I love when the jump like the skydiver move where you you don't have a pack But you jump on the other skydiver.

Mm-hmm. They have that I really like when somebody crashes through an apartment But they show the people the apartment not doing anything like I'm just on my computer and then Tom Cruz falls through more Cruz running crane fight with Colin Farrell. I love that com for a W-hell in the cell 1997 crane fight kisses his chain and you know that's his little yes It's a fucking Irish on him and then uh, it ends with Cruz big embedded in the Tesla. Yeah What a sequence 15 minutes and also so cool at Spielberg is like I'm gonna do the jet pack fight the jet pack chase and you're You're catching your breath and he's like now.

No, no, I'm not a fucker We're going into a car factory. We're gonna for cranes at this guy. Yeah, and every part of it has its little features elements the little Stun gun where you whip that muff up around and you shoot it again then they're fighting then Another futures element a totally automated car factory that no human workers in it people are fighting nobody is stopping to go Hey, stop hiding. Go get the super right get the deforming like the car gets built around him And then he drives around it a completely consistent movie the entire and it's a great image because he's being like hemmed in By all this technology anyway, so he's being like imprisoned in the automation of all this and you get your product placement in there Yeah, Lexus Shortscene, but the cruise flashback to when he loses his kid is good with the breath holding in the foreshadowing next one I have his blind crews move through the decrepit apartment building is the ID spiders come after him I Absolutely Spielberg in his bag the overhead shot of all the little rooms the people having sex people fighting but stopping for just one second So that the spiders can scan the retinas unbelievably you can see when other people have Jack Steven Spielberg, right?

Yeah, because because he that's the first time I've seen that I'm sure someone had did it before but then I think immediately Well, that's John Wick for and the you know when you're when he's got the dragons breath shotgun and he's doing a whole deal It's fantastic and that's also one of the to me seems in the movie. That's the most heavily influenced by the Matrix Mm-hmm. Just those little spider-guys come with another influence. Yeah, I have two things off the scene Spielberg was gonna create the air bubbles rising with CGI in Tom Cruise said Steve.

I got you Give me some time to figure out to do this myself Which leads us to a brand-new award of the rewatchables the Tom Cruise learn how to do it himself or Steve just give you two weeks to figure out this air bubble thing This is no bigger maniac who's not in prison than Tom Cruise like just think of him in bodies of water with like spotters Like and then popping up and going how many with air bubbles? Isn't that the Matt Damon joke or who told that story where it's like Tom Cruise is like planning to stunt for like eight years and the safety guys like you can't do it We can't assure this so I gotta do safety guy Remember like the video that came out when Tom Cruise was explained to the people on set how important what it is if he was doing is Like a money or something no, it wasn't from the money was I think I was even from it was recent It was during covid. Oh, yeah, it was mission. Yeah, it was one of the mission And he was like we're trying to save movies here Yeah, and people thought that that was going to be a clip that made people like not like to Like yeah, I'm like yeah, the best was when he broke his ankle jumping and then just kept running because he didn't want them to lose the Scene his fucking ankle was snapped like he was who's like I Kevin where the Louisville guy Yeah, and he's just let me let me just fucking drag my leg cuz I don't want to lose the shot like cruises nuts Yes, he's there's nobody like him.

So that's one and then the other one Top four blind guys seen of all time. Oh, yeah, everything. I have a real like phobia aca about I stuff just cuz like I And I so I have two nominees and I don't know what the third one is the blood sport fight with Bondam That one Dancing yeah that one and there's probably one more so this is three I don't know what the fourth member about Rushmore is for black eyes on the comments what blind Mount Rushmore Craig do you have any Blind guy thoughts no, I wasn't for a bear for blind guy We're still one short. Yeah, it has any number below.

We have comments on Spotify now. Oh good comments great Next one I have is Cruz takes the pre-cocked to Dweasel's app as club. Yeah, I think I saw van in one of the rooms I rewound it so funny thought I saw you in what you'd be doing if you could do anything one of those clubs You know virtual what I would be like virtual. Yeah, no everyone wants to be having a virtual orgy or something like that But that's not what it would be I'll be I would be everybody thinks that I would be virtual LSU quarterback.

Yeah, that's that's what I would be I'm that's virtual LSU quarterback. All right guys. We're gonna go wide big ex go deep. No, this is oh two You're just handing it off man.

Yeah, that's true way more physical game back then. I do virtual hunt for a October rewatch Well cuz I can't do that in real life I really like these little zappas club like futuristic Total recall has this to where they it's like the one place that can get super fun in a sci-fi thing where it's like There's gonna be a nightclub or like an orgy place and they'll just it's not alright two more Cruz has to kill Leo crow You know of a choice Mike Bender. Yeah, I find her. Oh, yeah, I'm not sure I think it's been there.

Um, I'm certain it's an ex-on See, I know about Mike. He's the mind of a merry-man guy. Yeah. Yeah, not a good show Just not good.

Not a good not one of HBO's best efforts. He's also a writer director You're a union sewer. Oh, no, I love that movie the one he did that was interesting was that one with costner and Joan Allen I thought that was pretty good is up cause I'm gonna go over that movie was when Joan Allen's divorce Lady with kids and false work Kevin Costner. It's odd.

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. What was that? Listen, I'm sorry. I'm a costner fan.

I'm sorry. I'm a fan of one of the great actors the less for years. Welcome to I'm gonna give a borderline Maybe could have toned back Agatha tiny bit in the scene in Leo crow. Yeah in the movie theater I've never seen this in the theater and my big nitpick was like Agatha's just a bad hang well She's a psychic who's been living in a pool of milk.

Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I think she's got some big emotions You know, right? I can't walk because I get it. I've just found her disturbing.

Yeah, right? I think that was kind of the point, but I get it but that is kind of a fun hang That is kind of a tender slave You know that you would immediately take Agatha to the sports book I Last one Lamar Burgess gets caught This is basically the fugitive. I don't know why we ran back the fugitive We're doing all the same beats. We have the there's a banquet.

He's being celebrated He gets found out by our hero who's the fugitive and I wrote down is there a better time to spring the I know you didn't move That when somebody's being honored at a banquet and there's just people in tuxedo That's probably the number one spot, right? Yeah, what would you do? I mean they can't do anything So you're most rewatchable is that 15 minutes? Yes, but can I throw two more in there?

Just because I have some deon waiters nominees later and I would be remiss if I didn't highlight their scenes I love the greenhouse. It's such a crazy gear shift and I'll allow her improvising on set kissing him and that's Tom Cruise's real reaction because she didn't say it I'm gonna kiss you on the lips here. Yeah, great and also just explains everything that's going on in the movie And then I just the pure storm our I surgeon. Yeah, you know disgrace plastic surgeon He's like remember me.

You know you put me away and miss Van Eck you know the Russian or the Swedish Nurse that he has just really creepy and pure-filled critic I've the only one that you did not mention is the first meetup between Colin Farrell and Tom Cruise Yeah, the feel up. Yeah, the feel out he rolls the ball and goes Hey, you caught that where they're two differing perspectives on pre-crime or clashing like that's one of the best things in the movie Pupu moment for you. Yeah, that's a pupu in there. What the hell do you mean by that?

No, just like the way you went big picture for us Pupu this I have the 15-minute stretch as well. Yeah, but as about as good as it gets me I gotta say the ID spiders are fucking incredible Yes, and the way they shoot and where you can see all these different kind of CD apartments and rooms and then how he tries to beat the spiders He's afraid to go blind. He's gonna beat him Then it doesn't beat up everything about like the way the society is structured in that world where like all these people living in this Titamin are like this is just a fact of life that I have to allow this fucking Robotic spider to scan my retina. I'm in the middle fighting with my wife See no matters, but you get to get to the city in the middle of the black crawler But like but to that point though they've traded that in order to have a society with with no murders So it's like even litigating with that what you have for most rewatchable scene.

I agree with CR I think that that action sequence in that like factory is the most entertaining part of me to me Okay, what's the most 2002 thing about this movie still normal Tom Cruise mm-hmm No social media in the 50-year future of things. Yeah, social media is not in this movie They didn't realize what was about to happen. I mean, it's like yeah I was like the idea that it's like the person is reading USA today rather than like, you know I have cut a cutting edge virtual USA today in 2002 made sense. I got one too young mustache Colin Farrell was the other one ahead What do you have physical media?

His memories of his son aren't streaming. He has to get little discs right out and put him in there It's one of the things they got wrong One last one which I think is the winner the TV show cops being integrated in a 2054 movie scene Cops is long gone. Yeah, it made sense enough to them I would just say probably the introduction slash warnings of government surveillance in overreach coming out in island Which is like he's you know, I don't remember when the Patriot Act is exactly past But like this is right around when it's like are we sure we would have like unconditional surveillance powers like what a spy B's speak to that. Yeah, right?

The okay motherfucker award for the exact moment when this movie goes up a notch cruise gets grabbed by the pre-cog Oh, where would you go? Oh, I go him and you'll McDonough and him be like everybody runs and then Steven Spielberg stages an actual jetpack fight Yeah, I mean if you're seeing the behind the scenes for that scene No, it's fucking mind blowing it first of all like that It's on wires, but it's all happening practically on a set and Spielberg is basically like it's like he's culturing He's like we're gonna do this and then I'm gonna come here Tom I need you for two seconds to say this cut okay moving on and he's just like breaking down It's one of the coolest like behind the scenes five minute videos You can see it's just like Spielberg with like basically no storyboard being like this okay cut now. I want you to do this Tom one more time Thank you awesome, and it's like he just pieces this thing together in his head. It's amazing You think Spielberg's a genius what yeah like a real genius.

Yeah, no I think to be able to see story and execute it to that level I think he's an actual genius. I agree because I think the word genius gets thrown around a lot Okay, I would this would be a good podcast where we just decided if somebody's a genius or not each episode I think to me, it's no brainer. Maybe a bit too many podcasts. Well, no, I mean Actually the question would be not who is a genius But it would be who isn't one because of all those high-level directors the quit some of them are probably just great workman And I understand film but then some of them are able to do things and translate story in a motion in a way that is just In a in a way.

They just understand what people need to see and you know It's almost like the fantasy brain in your head You can see it and translate it as a director and only I think people can actually do that where they can just be like I see this room and I storyboarded this before and that curtains get and they just like they're in some fucking alternate universe As they're in the really yes, I have three Tom Cruise words in a row for you Oh the Tom Cruise award for most awkward moment when someone kisses Tom Cruise that goes to dr. Iris kissing for sure yeah, the Tom Cruise running award for best running in a movie I think it's Tom Cruise, but I thought Pharaoh had a nice little moment there with the skid yeah So I don't know do you want to run off it was pretty good Tom gets it going and it comes around the corner in a movie When Tom starts running you go man Tom is the best running guy in a movie that we've seen but then Pharaoh comes right around you go Pharaoh and you run as well as good athlete and then he did my advice he probably has run since then the only Tom Cruise would do this award could be Telling Spielberg. He's got the little drops of oxygen shaving his head at the end for I don't really feel like like Because they put him in the prison thing and they have to put the halo in his head But they could have bald cap them sure I know actually shave it and then Cruz's eyes actually being held back by those metal sticks Yeah, she seemed real I think that's the winner just thank God he didn't like I want to replace my own eyeballs Yeah, he probably asked yeah What if we actually replaced my eyes? I've got a crazy idea crazy idea like there's these other eyeballs What's age the best?

What do you guys all done war Philip K dick elements pkd loves a blind drug dealer? He loves a disgraced plastic surgeon He loves a wheelchair bound prison supervisor like all of these kind of broken damaged people are very big factors in his books And it was cool to see them show up in the movie in some way cuz Spielberg is usually a little bit more shoddy happy The moving things thinking like he'll move and stuff around way better than disclosure. Okay, so Disclosure man that age really well first of all like it doesn't an iron man, but they like that my Apple vision pro Which I'm back on oh oh you're you bought the dip I'm back on the Apple vision pro because they up let they updated the NBA app on it Fucking fantastic. Okay.

Fantastic back on it. You know I'm doing that. I'm moving stuff around and the whole deal like that age really well I had crews using his hands to be pre-crime stuff Yeah But added you know he studied like Tai Chi or some sort of something to learn like he definitely had some sort of instructive instructive Tracy's and drag it for how to make the list. I'm just gonna read you what I wrote about Agatha So me at the Martin is Agatha is so creepy and weird.

It's a great performance and I also kind of hate her in this movie But I think it's a great performance, but she's a rough hang in this movie. She's intentional. It has to be that way Well, yeah, I mean she kind of jerks you out of the kinetic energy of the movie a little bit and I mean She's the victim of the movie. Yeah, and so she has to like stop the momentum of everything that's happening and like humanize the movie a little bit And I think you probably I didn't want that you just wanted to pop on it.

It's just it's tough It's it's interesting when we get to casting what if so I it's interesting conversation So Danny says how much time do we have after crews kidnapped Agatha and a pre-crime officer says 51 minutes 30 seconds Steve Spielberg our guy that's exactly the amount of time until the end of the movie It goes real time he says that I said people doing normal stuff in the room or kitchen when somebody suddenly crashes through it And then Tom Cruise says the title in the movie, you know I love I also love adult Spielberg says a movie with sex adultery drug use murder, you know Like it's still this Spielberg version of it, but it's he's got it He's got it the guys Howard Marks his wife in the beginning isn't writing anybody or anything But there's a woman in the ten minutes woman in the apartment building's writing. Yeah, it's I think he has a complicated relationship with the stuff With what's next? Yeah, you know, he likes it. I think it makes him nervous It's like me some nervous you talk to my body.

I'll bring it up if I run into this one what you got for great check order I got to I love the scene when they are in the Leo Crow apartment building lobby and both of their heads are in the frame And they both you know, they both like kind of like they almost looks like Agatha's an extension of his consciousness But the best shot is definitely the overhead of all the apartments being invaded by the spiders Yeah, that is the best shot of the movie. There's a shot at the end where the movie reminds you that you're in Washington DC Vonsido Vonsido I think it's talking to Tom and the watching the mommy my name is in the back like, you know where you are then I point out one Like this is the concept of this Spielberg does I'm gonna show this to Chris see this That's the little bit of extra stuff. So that's the scene that's in Where they're talking and nobody done his character They the camera pans back behind his head and he like splits them. Yeah, and visually Spielberg just says these are two guys on Opposite size opposite size and he uses a character in the movie to break them apart as they're facing each other It's a little stuff like that that throws you into the film There's tons of video essays you can watch on YouTube better talk about this broadly this and then specifically with minority report is basically the way Spielberg will Do what other people usually do like multiple camera setups and editing to shoot a conversation, right?

So like if we were three of us talking there'd be a camera camera camera She won me and then a master shot and he would cut between those angles But what Spielberg can do in this movie is go into bill Now I'm gonna pan back towards the look for your can But then I'm gonna whip pan over and Chris is looking at van and I move slowly to van and it's like there's four shots in one shot We have to get like a what are those called those things you put over the cans? Could be a beer cozy yeah, we need like a ringer or somebody should make us a rewatchable is beer cozy Okay, you know what I like to look right just gets like free advertising every episode I do like look where though. This is this is I'm I have to name this yeah What's he always just saying was this really brilliantly technical? Cool This is Oh God kick out your suit half this word best needle job is mover in this mover I didn't hear Well, I had that theme sign from cops Oh, it is Chris or at least I heard that as well when he's walking through the mall playing right?

That's right big a hooner burger where best use of food and drink the blind crews eating a bad sandwich You grow smoke fucking disgusting. Why is that something there with like a nice healthy sandwich because they're fucking with him right? I always thought that they were fucking with him. I think they were fucking with him Yeah, it's also like the idea that like he's not the first guy to be in this apartment blind waiting for his timer to go off So it's like somebody else's in there the chest rock while in Brock Landers a work for best character name Lamar Burgess Pretty good.

I have Agatha Dash and he's 13th down Todd McShay's draft Yeah, we've seen your years a receiver. Yeah, okay. What was asking? What was this any place Lamar Burgess?

How many wait Lamar Burgess's would you think would be in the NFL trash true? No sta cool? Oh big detackle from my Selma like he used to weigh 360 But now he's 325 got down with a trash. He's firing.

Let me tell you all really love that nobody's talking about Troy's Lamar Burgess This gives a fucking animal yet. Let's take a break and then we're gonna come back with CR's flex categories have some healing to do after CR said No, so this great All right, so yeah, we got flex category I got a KGP award for actor doing his own thing for Peter Storm are the best surgeon our guy You know that is you something from Fargo from where else oh eight millimeter? I thought the Russian cosmonaut and Armageddon we just really don't have the Satan we may have done Me we may have low key done like six Peter Storm are movies by now should we do the that guy like what I did with the Basketball fan pyramid should we just do the that guy Hall of Fame pyramid with five levels? Storm are to me is that he's a boy?

He might be level five. He makes every single movie that he is in better You always notice him, but it's never like a huge role Yeah, it's just so fascinating because he gives Tom Cruise an aesthetic like as soon as he walks in he basically knocks him out And then he just like dances around Tom Cruise and she's scenery for five minutes Like has anybody ever done this to Tom Cruise before where Tom Cruise has got to be like oh, he's gonna seen with Joaquin Phoenix a Nick Cage just blowing that guy Butch's girlfriend weak link of the film I don't I don't really have one Like Lara that that Lara thought was gonna be the Larry Larry I don't know the time cruise way category shouldn't always be like the woman Yeah, it's just a Lara character is not that dynamic and then I guess for me probably the weakest piece of the movie is Max just fucking up and saying the girl drowned yeah, and then yeah, and uh like he's this guy is so smart He's fucking replacing pre-crime memories, and he's just seven steps ahead everybody recreating murders And then I was just like yeah the drown girl. She's like what do you mean? I never said she drowned it just feels like a doesn't make me That's probably my butch's girlfriend.

What's it worst? No cell phones Cruise jumping cars on the fake highway is the only part of this movie that was CGI that I think if they do it in 25 They just have better technology. Yeah Futureistic misses those thin glass data slides you mentioned earlier the physical media. I don't know feels like easy to shatter easy to break It's a very should they have covers like I that's what we'll be on the cloud man.

Yeah It's the best part of the movie That's why I people are like I don't really want to make movies about cloud and iPhones right because it's like I want to have the thing that We have to run away with just a quick yeah There's a stretch here with the long stretch with dr. Iris right into the crazy eye doctor where nothing's happening for about 25 minutes and is such an adrenaline rush before they bring you back down It's a little long. It's like he's going to get popcorn He's going down the whole area when he gets into her and the fucking plants come alive and all that stuff He's coming alive just it seems like a different movie to me. I think I'm purpose So I think it's supposed to be like you now passed into the realm of like fantasy Yeah, exactly fox did a remixer's in 2015 that I forgot about them didn't last Dr.

Iris says the pre-cogs abilities are the result of brain damage caused by parents being addicted to no rain During pregnancy. Mm-hmm. Don't do no rhyme when you're pregnant So what stage of words for me? I care about your kids even though we're inside an actual drug What do you got for what stage of words?

I didn't I just I just can't handle I stuff from clockwork or orange on I mean they say fucking one yeah, even grow shit I just can't well he every time he eats the shit in the drinks it can't physical media thing and literally the The CGI when they're jumping around that's like Star Wars prequel level. This is fake. Yeah type of shit Yeah, that's unfortunately O2 is right around We had some stuff figured out but others I mean they're able to do the matrix so I guess I it's pretty good It looked at it looked better than it had ever looked up to that point Yeah, but the jump between now and in like 2008 when I'm in come fucking sinners It's like fucking be Jordan just playing two parts next to each other for two and a half hours Yeah, the repolo hand rib and a cartridge over acting word. I know that's an easy one.

What do you got? I mean not over I mean just it's a turn it up to fucking 14 I don't mind as much as you do but like screaming yelling it's a borderline you could throw in the category. Oh Yeah, I got to over act in the world. Yeah, yeah when he's about to kill Mike Binder And they do a couple I so shots of her just screaming her fucking head off.

It's like okay. Let's take let's cut one back Then what do you have for a flex category best dick ever okay, so it's a all mine is always a list and I want CR are Resident dickhead here to What are the best Philip K dick movie adaptations? Oh, so I got minority report. I thought that was gonna be an AVN award for a second Jesus minority report Total recall scanner darkly blade runner and then I put the adjustment bureau in there because I love that movie Am I leaving anything off?

I don't think so there've been some like animated series and series where it's like riffing on themes from his works But I do those with the big ones. I'll put blade runner runner number one I'll give you so give me a ranking. I'll go blade runner total recall my Probably run or my report total recall and and then No scanner darkly in some ways is the most fillet dick thing. Are you gonna talk to your guy?

I'm not you're not are you the just my girl guy? No, interesting. No sir I Think I grew a series list, but I think total recall is also the one if I could if I was trapped on a desert island I'd probably take that one. Yeah to me.

That's the best one because you get the three boob lady. Yeah, that's the best Well, no actually, you know what it's not the best one yet. It's just the most entertaining rewatchable about the blade runners the best one Blade where's the best one? Yeah, it's like how raging bow is awesome But you wouldn't want to watch yeah, you'd rather watch like rocky or something, but yeah Do you know that in like 2006?

Somebody made a J clama movie Because it was on cable are you serious? Yeah, and it was like Jake Lamara and it was like some I forget who the actor was It was like can you imagine me like the ball? We might be yeah, it might be time to re-explore Jake Lamara balls on that the balls on that fucking guy Hey, the CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford how to stake a word bend you have one do not I have one I'll do one for you. Yeah, pre-cogs the greatest professional sports gambling weapon ever created a movie hands down Yeah, there's a whole subplot movie with pre-cogs like just basically making all these money for gamblers and then being on the run If you're John energy just make the run to Vegas with Agatha.

Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, we're got the guy has Access to the pre-cogs and look the villain here is a villain. He's killed someone but he also kind of I mean He's kind of got some points, right? He tries to stop murder I wouldn't have tried to stop murder if I had to pre-cogs He's in financial. We running it up.

Yeah, we play in the market. We doing all kinds of stuff. We running up He did something for the public it's true. You know bad way pre-cock has Oilers game to go in half put Agatha plus 150 Put a nice vibes around.

I love taking the idea of like this person is telepathic All right, do you have a second? Yeah, so this one is from the perspective of Howard Marks. Let's say you're Howard, right? Yeah, aren't you like why don't we just stop my way from cheating?

Why don't we like if you can see the whole crime Wouldn't it be better if Andrew came by and was just like don't cheat on Howard? He's gonna flip out if you do that Yeah, or just like why is the pre-cog only paying attention to the end result like murder and not the pre-triggering event? Right because if you're Howard, you're like I never would have considered killing my wife unless she cheated on me So if you could just go back in time couldn't somebody be like hey, we got to yank this guy who's like gonna gonna cheat on Like really kind of fucks over how it a little bit Well, I mean I understand that the ultimate crime is murder right like the people are gonna cheat on each other people are gonna have feelings for one another But it is kind of like for that kind of crime of passion. It seems like if she hasn't cheated He's like oh, I thought maybe we could go to lunch together So you don't stop Rich Paul from saying that Chris Bosch wasn't really a big three.

You go back further and stop LeBron James from hiring That's your move Then we don't have the corresponding anyway, but yeah, exactly I got you Cassidy what ifs This was optioned in 1992 as a sequel to Total Recall with Schwarzenegger and Carol Co productions which we talked to see Caracall pictures Which we talked about on a couple of Kyle Brandt rewatchables Fought for bankrupt and there's a documentary about this whole thing. So it got worked into a different thing yandubon came in 97 And then uh and that didn't work out and then the biggest casting went for this was Spielberg comes on Offers the role the Colin Farrell to Matt Damon Offers dr. I was to be on the street Offers Lamar Burgess 320 pound nose tackle to Ian McKellen offers Agatha to Cape Landschette and offers Larry at the Jenna Elfman And Streep the Clines Damon's doin' Oceans 11 Everybody else falls through the towers. Yeah, Javier Bardem.

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