Mirror Mirror (1990)

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A film that bafflingly has a lot more sequels than I realized that did. And say about it. And Apple, by the fact that there's any sequels. What are you talking about?

How many are there? We just said last episode that it's so rare for us to talk about a movie that's not a sequel. Yeah, Mirror Mirror has three sequels to it, and we're going to start out with Mirror Mirror 1. Yeah, crazy.

I have not seen any of the sequels, and I will tell you that this watch does make me want to continue now. This was so fun. This movie was like... It doesn't get discussed in 2025.

This might be my new... This might be the Night Killer of 2025. Ah! That's exciting.

This movie doesn't get as much love as I think it deserves. And that was only solidified on the Three Watch, honestly. I was really glad we got to watch it for this. And to celebrate an anniversary.

This is 1990. Yeah, you have an anniversary to Clink for the anniversary. Oh, Frank. To that anniversary I shared too.

I shared too. This is another one from Beard. Back to back, Beards. This is Checkout, my Trapper Keeper.

And for those who are on the Patreon who can see the video, it has a beautiful sort of Lisa Frank inspired lineup of stickers and technicolor animals. And I was just thinking this is very much a high school movie. I do think there's a couple times where somebody falls and drops all their shit. So this is what I went with.

What I used to have. I have. Your vanity is showing. I was the most proud of this.

You know when I told you I was like, oh, I got most of my summer stuff already lined up. This is one that's like, oh fuck yeah. It's from Magic City, which they're an Akron. Yeah, not a really good one.

Nice. Some good Beards here. That is a weird beer. What is this?

It is an imperial-fruited sour with blackberry, blueberry, grapefruit, mango cherry, and lactose. Oh, that's wild because I took a sip of mine too. And I was like, this is weird. It's a New England style pale ale milkshake.

And so I also had lactose in it. So I think that's my one sip of mine. And that's it for me. That was not that.

Yeah, you did it. That was a mistake. So real quick, looking at these three sequels that we got to Mirror Mirror. It seems like the second one is still kind of a straightforward horror film.

And then we very quickly dive into erotic thrillers. So the second one is called Mirror 2. The second one is called Mirror 2. There's Mirror Mirror 2, Raven Dance.

There's Mirror Mirror 3, The Boyer. And there's Mirror Mirror 4, Reflections. But something that's noteworthy, and I love this, Mirror Mirror 2, I'm actually kind of excited for us to do. All right.

We've got... It's already on the list. You've got Roddy McDowell. What?

We got Victoria Arvara-Kart, Cartwright from The Simpsons. What the big name? Mark Ruffalo. One of his earliest movie roles.

William Sanderson is back but playing a different character. And then I saw that in Mirror Mirror 3, the boyer Mark Ruffalo is back playing a different character. So Mirror Mirror loved to bring back characters, actors to play different characters. But this plot line for Mirror Mirror 2, the plot follows a teenage orphan who finds herself haunted by a mysterious mirror inside the Catholic orphanage in which he's living in.

Whoa. Just screams all of our likes kind of just like in a melting pot. Oh man, this is very nice. This is gonna be huge.

Really, Drago is in Mirror Mirror 3, The Boyer. Which is just, yeah, this looks this. Yeah. That box art for Mirror Mirror 3 looks so fucking sleazy.

It's the sleazy as box art I've seen in a lot of time. It does not say anything. Nothing about that says to me Mirror Mirror sequel. Everything about that screams red shoe diaries.

So I love this real quick thing on Mirror Mirror 3 because I don't think we're gonna be doing it any time. So TV Guide Awarded the film, One Out of Four Stars, and said the only surprises to be found in Mirror Mirror 3 is that it took two directors to plot this listless acting, horror elements and lengthy but ineffective sex scenes. Wow. Ineffective sex scenes.

That is the magic of them. Oh my God. That's what I mean as you can get about a sex scene. That's pretty fucking rude.

For a rock. Supernatural movie. Yeah. Nuts.

Were you just gonna switch it to Horror Horror, Horror Horror Horror Horror? Listen, it's our Horror movie Sharia night, here, and we're talking about Mirror Mirror. Is this your first watch, Man? This was probably my first like paying attention.

Watch, I bought this from V. H. S. Mec, this was like a Monster Mania V.

H. S. P. S.

purchase, years ago, I wanna say I bought it the year that we shared a table with Freight school and the Jersey Ghouls. Yeah, and I probably watched it right when I got home thought, all right, and then kind of moved on, but it was like, I'll throw this on in the background. If it grabs my attention, I'll consider it pickworthy. And if it just kind of plays and nothing entices me, then I'll just assume that it wasn't particularly good.

But this is fun. Like I think you guys liked it more than me, but I didn't hate it. I definitely had fun watching it, but my first note says, Orphanai Studios, who the fuck is that? Like, this is a terrible name for a studio.

Bad. Makes a lot more sense for the sequel though. Yeah, right. Maybe they made this to make the sequel.

Maybe Raven's Dance was the goal all along. And they finally made it. This movie, I've watched this a couple of times now. Again, maybe only two like full through, but this movie has a lot of influence on Ouchy in more ways than even I remember when we initially.

Yeah. You know, we included a lot in the lookbook and sort of in a couple scenes just in what Jeanette and I were talking about. And re-watching it now that Ouchy's done and out and in the world, it made me a little giddy to sort of remember the things that we pulled from or built upon or just were inspired by from this movie. But the movie's great.

It's another directorial debut, female directed, actually apparently over 60% of the crew were female, which is so rad. And for 1990, that's big. For 1990 is wild, right? Yeah.

And so this debut at Cannes, I mean, it just exists. There's not a ton of. It's wild to debut at Cannes. Yeah.

Well, listen, you know, 1990 Cannes, I mean, it's still a prominent film festival, but it's one of those things where I just, I don't know if it necessarily had the popular culture, but like lift that it does now. Sure. So I might be, you know, I might be talking about my ass. There might be more hardcore, so in a file out there, that's like, actually 1990 was a really great year.

Yeah. I'm actually gonna look this up. We're gonna see what my impact is. That is the hardcore, so in a file that's gonna say, well, actually in that same voice.

But it's, it did fine. It just kind of existed. There wasn't a big pull for it. And actually even beyond that, there was one large blue, I think blue ray release for this from Dark Force Entertainment.

It's not even, not, I'm not, I'm not, Dark Force, we probably put out a great disc, but it's just not in the world that I thought that it would get the love that it does. But that's all, that's just, that's neither here nor there. This movie exists from 1990, Family Director of World Review, and this is how it starts. Sometimes in the 1950s, a woman is stabbed to death in front of a standing mirror, and then decades, and that's how the movie starts.

We got like, you know, this quick moment of two women tussling, one gets stabbed in front of this tall, tall mirror, and then decades later, Susan, a widowed mother, moves into this home that doesn't look like anybody's been in there since this murder, with her goth teenage daughter, Megan, and Megan looks like Lydia from- She's Lydia Deast, too. She just needs, it's really quite crazy. And Rainbow Harvest, it's a real name, like a name. Yeah, Rainbow Harvest, real name.

We don't know if we played by Karen Black, which we love to see. Her wings are out of control in this movie. Her wings are nuts. This is one of my favorite HMM Karen Black appearances, because she's been in a significant portion of material that we've discussed, but nothing quite as fun as this.

The thing about- The thing about- The thing about the night is the last thing I remember being the most recent thing, and that was not nearly as fun as this, but she always just aims for the fences. The thing about Karen Black, and the thing about, like, I would say a handful of horror actors is that you, there are some horror actors that you can be like, I wish I had a better example. You can be like, oh, Tony Todd plays Tony Todd in almost everything, right? And you can sort of be like, oh, he's a great actor, and he does- He does it really well, he does it so well.

But like, Karen Black, you can't just point out, you feel like you have to just experience her in each of her roles to then get a better and better and bigger appreciation for her. Like, when she pops up in house with the first time I ever saw was House of the Corpses. I didn't understand her- Like, and then I saw her at a horror convention, I didn't understand like her depth or her like, the reason that she was even in there, right? And then just as a continue to find films with her in them, it's like, oh, she's fucking great.

And she's great as Susan in Mirror Mirror. Megan, on the other hand, Rainbow Harvest scared her. Megan does not do so hot in this new environment that she got moved into. She gets bullied in high school, picked on by her classmates, except for Nikki, who is a good girl who is running for- She's an A cup class president candidate and has a horny and needy boyfriend named Ron.

She is Nikki is campaigning against a C cup class president named Charlene, who is unrelenting and bullies Nikki, Ron, Megan. She is just a force to be reckoned with. But Megan, one of the things that she has in this new home of hers is that somehow, supernaturally, she got to keep this standing mirror. The auctioneer in the home of the realtor all thought that this mirror came with them.

It did not, and the auctioneer played by Yvonne DiCarlo. She's great. She's great in this role. She starts the thumb through journals that she found in this house that the mirror is actually possessed by a demonic force.

And it'll grant you some wishes. And it's a little bit of a wishmaster-e scenario. And it doesn't really affect her yet. Like, the pace in which she's finding these things out is different than the pace of which Megan is in high school and in her life.

And they don't quite parallel. So the timeline's a little wonky. But we start to find out that this mirror is haunted. And that night, one of those nights, Megan is just really hating herself.

She's yelling in the mirror. And that's how you know she's golf besides the dresses that she's just absolutely yelling about how much she hates herself in her own mirror. And then that night, she dreams that her dad comes back to her life to try to heal her and heal things. But it's not just her dad.

It's a decaying demon. And it's pretty gross. And that's actually a really disturbing scene. I don't know if it would have hit me as hard in high school.

But that's like real nightmare feel right there. This is kind of the turning point for me a little bit, as it not just being a demon possession or possessed item movie. It really starts to become more about Susan having these different personalities and not being able to care and tend to her daughter, whether it be directly or indirectly not being able to care for her daughter because of what they have gone through in this moment. And Susan's trying to deal with it in her own way.

And she's totally disregarding Megan, who is dealing with her own shit in this new environment in new school. And Megan is seeking something to help her cope in this moment. And it just happens to be that this mirror is also influenced her a little bit. Because we go from, I'm going to skip forward a little bit.

We go from this moment of her hating herself in the mirror to there being some supernatural forces that affect the things around her. Megan's mom, Susan, has a suitor that comes over for dinner. And there's a really nasty little one. The guy that brings, OK, so let's not gloss over William Sanderson's character.

So as soon as they move in, one of their cute dogs dies. And Susan puts it on their kitchen counter. And is crying about it. And Megan comes home and is like, why is that thing on the counter?

And she's like, it was family. And so Susan calls a pet cemetery, basically. And then she thinks he's cute and awkward. And so she invites him for dinner.

And this is where we pick up the gross nasty. One of the two dogs, yeah, gets got. And so now Susan just seeking connection. And then capacity is trying to connect with his pet's notary owner.

And we got kind of like an Amityville horror-esque thing going on here with the flies coming through the mirror. We start to get a very traditional demonic presence in the house. And that translates to his dinner plate. And he freaks out, blames on a Vietnam flashback.

Why? He's like, well, what's the line out of here? I wrote down the line. He goes, I must be having flashbacks.

I was in Vietnam, you know. And then Susan goes, I didn't know that. No shit. I don't really like that.

She's still trying to, like, she's still trying to, like, vie for the thing. And not, you know, just like the connection. It's kind of crazy. But Charlene gets a nosebleed in the.

Oh, and then there's a gross nosebleed. Gross nosebleed. Gross nosebleed. And things just start to really go from here.

So Charlene has a boyfriend. Jeff, that Megan is interested in. And there's a little bit of, like, relational thing going on here. I think her friend, Charlene, Charlene, is the, like I said, the C-cup presidential nominee.

She's the main girl. Yeah, right. Listen, man, if our candidates were just between cup size, you know, we would still come out with a winner here in this country, you know? Because it's a fucking nightmare out there.

If we just had, if we are still going to abide by this binary fucking, I can't. OK, anyway, we don't need to put this on the mirror. It's not their fault. It's everybody else's.

So Charlene gets a nosebleed. The dog interrupts the possession and the nosebleed stops. And then later on, Megan's teacher also gets like a heart attack or some sort of. I read it as a heart attack, yeah.

So Megan, the power that Megan is hoping for continues to grow, even though she is not directly influenced on herself by the mirror. But then she has this moment where instead of talking about how much she hates herself in the mirror, she actually bonds with the mirror. She licks this dripping blood off the mirror. And we have this POV moment where we're like looking through at her.

She's actually starting to love this version of herself or whatever it might be. And it's kind of gnarly. And it really turns everything on its head. So that's sort of this last third of the movie where Megan now has some form of confidence, whether it be demonic or herself.

It's kind of we start to blur the line a little bit. But she dances with Charlene's boyfriend or partner, Jeff, who she has a crush on. Charlene takes him away and then tries to give him a blow job, but is sported by his supernatural indigestion. So he ends up going home with Megan.

And then also is still really confused by everything. He actually gets pulled into the mirror because he denies Megan and her sexual advances. And he gets pulled into the mirror. And things start to get a little wonky.

Megan uses his power to help her friend, her new friend, Nikki, win this presidential candidacy by taking Shower Revenge upon Charlene. And this is a great shower scene where Charlene is in there. It goes on long. And it's honestly kind of tasteful.

And surprisingly, for what it is, which is a naked woman getting scolded to near death. Yes. It happens for a long time without feeling super exploitative. It is woman-directed, it's unmatched.

It's paralleled against the girls playing water polo. Yes. Under the water. So it's like you have this really harsh, gnarly, steam death while you then go back to the gym class where girls are bobbing underwater, playing water polo.

It's really a wild scene. And it's kind of gross. But Nikki's starting to get a lot of power here. She's really taking on.

I'm sorry, Megan. Megan's starting to get a lot of power here. We're trying to start to take off. Nikki's starting to be real skeptical.

Nikki's boyfriend, Ron, makes a sandwich. Oh, man. It just invents. And the crowd goes, meow, meow, meow.

This movie is truly funny. It doesn't feel shoehorn. It doesn't feel shoehorn. I think that in a lot of ways, it felt a lot like horror movie night fodder in the comedy aspects of it.

It made me like the content. Maybe not necessarily as many crazy kills. No, there were some. But not as much or tongue cutouts.

I mean, there are a lot of kills in the movie. It starts to pick up. And Megan slashed the demon. There's kind of a big body count here, bigger than I thought when we started the movie.

It does this interesting thing, though, where, and I don't know if it's because the 2B rip feels like it's from the VHS PS. Yeah. But I have more than the Blu-ray. Oh, it looked like a Blu-Rip to me.

It looks good. I mean, maybe I don't mind. Mine felt pretty grainy in VHS, quality when I was watching it. But well, lucky me.

Yeah, look at you. But I was going to say this has a nice body count. It has some interesting ways for people to die. Specifically, we said the steam shower is probably the most unique death.

But I also think that part of the charm is like the gore is kind of like very low budget. You know what I mean? It has that like catch up packet level of blood in points or stuff like that, where it's like there is this charm to how home grown it all kind of feels at the same time. I do think they saved all of their blood for one specific death.

And the rest of them are pretty tame. That's that I would say that that feels accurate. Right. And it's true because there's supernatural deaths.

There's gory deaths. There's literal demon deaths. It has the whole gamut, which is really great. And that happens with these last two.

There's a doppelganger death in which a love-to-doh. It's so dire. It actually kills Ron after he makes a sandwich, a Nikki doppelganger. There's a garbage disposal fake out, which is so good.

Like there's not a lot of scares in this movie, but that garbage disposal fake out pre-Sousin's death actually got me. I was like, yeah, I was holding on. It reminds me of some of those prickly, almost deaths that happen a lot. Or like, I remember prickly, I just saw two when she falls into the syringe pit.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, you're not going to die, but you're doing a, like you're involved in a thing that is really painful and icky. And I don't like it. And like her putting her fucking hand in this garbage disposal. I was like, bah.

I like that that's where you went to, like one of the most horrific things ever put to film in Saw 2 versus like, I don't know, any final destination movie. That was the vibe it was giving me. That's absolutely fair, which I hope, I haven't seen Bloodlines yet, but I hope everybody enjoyed it. It looks very fun.

Okay, so now we start just knocking off characters closer and closer, but Megan, Ron is gone. Nikki's a doppelganger. We lose Sousin, Megan's mother, and Megan starts to really question the demonic force. She really wished that she did not take her mother, even though her mother has been the source of so.

So much pain and suffering, but Nikki has to put a stop to whatever is happening because Megan apparently can't do it. So they get back together, they have this moment where Nikki is going to stop Megan in this demonic force. She ends up attacking Megan, killing Megan, and then wishing that she didn't and wishing that everything was brought back to the way that it was. And then we get this, and listen, I'm gonna tell you right now, if you do not want the spoil for you, give it one minute.

So because it's a silly ending, but Nikki stabs wishes for things to go back the way that they were, we flip back to the 1950s where we were at the beginning of the film. Nikki and Megan are in the same positions as the woman who was killing another woman. Nikki has stabbed Megan and then basically sort of sacrifices her to the mirror. We have a demon scream that happens, and we then have Nikki veil the mirror.

As we were told earlier that that is the only way to stop the demon from coming out, the mirror has veiled, and then that's the fucking end. There's a lot of stuck in a time loop, it's crazy. I gotta give a quick shout out, baby, if you're listening, super sorry about this story. I was watching this movie when it was just me and Peter in the house and Peter was doing what two year olds do which is like he was on the couch just bouncing and like babbling, he's just going like bah bah bah.

And I have this on, and that demon face came out and he just stopped everything he was doing and stared at the TV until the demon face went away. And then he just went back to bouncing or whatever. But for a split second, I was like, man, I just fuck this kid. Oh, I just ran out.

I was so conscious. It's a pretty, it's a gnarly little, again, we don't get a ton of effects or a ton of moments, but every little moment feels kind of great and important and fun and then we move on to the next thing. It's that demon being one of them, that's a great real ending. And I do love that we're just stuck.

We're just stuck really lovely. That's how it is. So to update us on 1990 Cannes Film Festival, like you said, it's mostly some foreign films, kind of just like film nerd stuff, but there are two pretty big ones that screened in 1990, including the film that won the main award, I forget what they call it. Pomp or?

Yeah, the Pomp or I went to David Lynch that year for Wild at Heart. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. And in the out of competition category, which is what I would imagine MiraMira played, MiraMira is not listed on this Wikipedia page at all for the record, but that doesn't mean it.

It's played there, but not me. But one of the two noteworthy out of competitions, but just kind of screened at Con that year, was Cry Baby from John Waters and The Little Mermaid from Disney. Oh, wow. This was when they first started.

Yeah, this was when Disney first started to try to push their animation as like art, and they did that by saying, we're going to premiere our next movie at a film festival instead of just like doing a wide release, like we always do. They called the second golden era? Is that what they called? The Renaissance?

The Renaissance. Yeah, let's pick off to the Renaissance era. Great documentary out there called, Waking Sleeping Beauty, if you ever have a chance to watch it, that just tells you all about how the Renaissance era happened. That's crazy.

But I just, I really like this movie. I'm glad we got to celebrate it on an anniversary. I do think it might not have come up even on my radar in, if it wasn't for an anniversary. I can similarly to Friday 13th.

I know that it influenced Ouchy a lot, but I think that I was like sort of hindsight 2020 on it and rewatching it here. I don't know if I would have picked it for the show. I'm glad that we did. Safer Ontario means more police and prosecutors making sure my car doesn't get stolen.

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Available on all podcasting apps. Well, Kyle, if you were having friends over and you were showing the mirror mirror besides throwing algae on afterwards, which we all know is the correct double feature, what else would you show people? So actually, my brain just like I had a bunch, but Amityville for the evil escapes is what I would pick. There's another garbage disposal scene.

There is people moving into a house in LA. It's an auctioneer slash like realtor character all involved. And I think that it also, the gore and the violence is since it's made for TV. Does have this sort of charm that is also not extreme.

It's comparatively tame. It's tame, it's tame, but it's still fun. All right, I'm going to jump right on there because I was so afraid you were about to steal mine. I'm going to go with Amityville a new generation, which is the film actually about the haunted mirror from the Apple Hill House.

And you know what, I forgot to ask this, the realtor that shows up in this movie seems fake pregnant for no explainable. He's in trouble. He's so weird. She might be in a sequel.

She could be in a sequel. There could be a baby involved. She's the one who had the kid who became the orphan who then shows up in the orphanage. Yeah, well, because I'm watching it and I'm like, A, there's like no way that this actress is actually pregnant.

Because it's rubbing the top of it. That's not. So it's obviously fake pregnant. I was like, let's let this slide because maybe it'll come up as some type of point, barely even mentioned that she's pregnant.

It's just kind of there. All right, Scott, what is your double feature? Well, I wasn't going to go here, but I got to go here. I'm going to go with Amityville 1992.

It's about time because it's about time we've been and we're doing all the Amity this week. All the Amityville double features. All right. Well, it makes me so happy.

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Kyle, what have you been watching reading, listening to, et cetera, that you want to talk about? I'm going to just go ahead and roll up a little promotion, but truly more than promotion, it is just because I think that it's a great movie. So Fade's the Light will come out June 24. And it is a movie that I'm the associate producer of.

But it's a movie that I re-watch again at Salem Horror Fest with an audience. And it really kind of made me fall in love with the movie again. Wizard behind the curtain, when you sign on to a movie or you start working on it, you just, and this is probably for any artist who has a thing that they work on over and over and over again. You just sort of have this distance between the thing.

And it's not until you experience it in a different capacity that you start to see different things or maybe have a different appreciation of it. And so Fade's the Light was that for me. I got to watch it with an audience at Salem Horror Fest. And everybody was so locked in.

It's a movie coming out. It'll be available for pre-order. And it's about a woman who, 15 years earlier, she was a young girl who escapes a right-wing gun cult in Salt Lake Place in Michigan, or in the United States of America, but filmed in Michigan. And she is rescued, saved, spared from a raid on this gun cult.

And then 15 years later, we flash forward. She's now a young adult. She is figuring it out. She's kind of nomadic.

She lives out of her van, clearly trying to figure out and understand what life has meant and given her since she grew up in this cult. And then it was stripped away from her. And she was just living in the world. At the same time, the pastor from this cult gets released from prison.

And he, too, is out in the world, both of them seeking some sort of either closure or new chapter or something within their lives. And this film parallels those two stories. It's not a traditional horror film. It is much more a, I would call it a coming-of-age road movie with thriller elements to it.

And those thriller elements are actually horrific elements, because this type of cult is not a completely fictitious cult that has silly made-up altar calls or moments of sacrifice or anything like that. This is people with people's beliefs, and this is not far off from the truth. So that's where the horror element comes from. But the film itself is more of a meditation on finding yourself with a past and a history that is so skewed and confusing and difficult and based in the hope that you find some truth or some basis, and then having that stripped away.

Robert Kurtzman does the effects, which is age as we use on for a couple of days. He does the effects for our horror Jason folks. It stars Kylie Lott's, who they were in my film, Ouchie, which we talked about earlier. And I did get to watch it recently, so I wanted to share that it's not just a promotion thing, but I actually got to experience it in a way as an audience member that I really fucking appreciated.

Very cool. So that's going to be out the 24th of June, I believe. And available for pre-order. Pre-order really helps in a lot of ways.

And more ways than one might think, while I appreciate anybody who might check it out on streaming and wait for it to become available on a streaming platform that they already pay for or pay monthly for. If you can rent or pre-order it, it goes a long way, especially for independent filmmakers who these guys and gals and they, then them, everybody devoted their, three years of their lives to making this thing happen. And it's really exciting to have it out on an actual accessible platforms. So that is my altar call.

Well, I'm going to jump on that altar call to talk about something else religious that I watched. Four season of righteous gemstones. Not the best season, but it was a fun season. If you like the show, you know what you're in for.

But it was definitely, I think, kind of a little bit more uneven. It felt like it was kind of jumping all over the place without a centralized plot the way that the previous seasons all had a very distinct, like, here's your bad guy. And here's all the ways that this family screwed up by being awful and let's see if they can get out of this one. This one felt a little bit more like a combination of story as well as, let's just check out, let's learn a little bit more about the family history of this gemstone family.

It's like the first episode takes place during the Civil War. And it's like how their great, great, great grandfather, like, lied and cheated his way into being believed as a pastor in a local town, even though he had no political affiliation to kind of establish that this whole family's entire history is built on fallacy. But, you know, like a church isn't, to a certain extent. But yeah, that's a gentle recommend.

If you like the show, it's not the worst season. Scott, take us home with hopefully something a little bit more optimistic than that. Yeah, well, so last weekend, Megan and I were, we were cleaning a kitchen and cooking and spent like a good two plus hours listening to musicals. And we started with Hamilton and then we, you know, Megan was just like in control and she was like, you know, like of the music and she's like, let's listen to this next.

Let's listen to this next. She introduced me to an amazing song. I don't know anything from a chorus line. I've never seen it before.

And this is the preamble to what I watched. But it's not a chorus line. But do you guys know the song Dance 10 Looks 3 from a chorus line? Yeah, it's an amazing song.

I can't say that I know. There's a chance I know it because I used to tap dance and there's a chance that I've heard it. It's about Tits and Ass. Yeah, it's really, well.

No, definitely. And Looks 3 is like this woman saying that, you know, she swiped her dance card because she was never getting callbacks and it turned out that she was great dancer, but she had no Tits and Ass. And so she went and got like plastic surgery. OK, so now.

But also in that hours of us listening to musicals, you know, soundtracks, Megan was like, you know, she put on camera lot in 1967. And she was like, oh my god, this is so good. I'm like, let's watch it again. Because we watched it once like very early on our relationship and I don't remember anything from it except for the last month of May song.

And because I say it all the time because it's May. When it's May, I got to sing that song. Like literally May 1, I woke her up bicing it's May, it's May, it's the last month of May. So we started watching it and it is so good.

It is like just such an amazing film, the music's so killer. I really love the way that it actually kind of changed small bits of the Arthurian legend to suit like a different sensibility. It kind of made Arthur brash, but not an asshole. Like a lot of Arthurian legend is very much like, since he was not of royal birth that he was kind of a dickhead.

And he does dickheadish things, but in this he's very much like a sad wounded nerd, which I thought was a really cool angle. And the last one I want to make about it is we're watching the jousting scene where Lance a lot, you know, like has to face off against these three nights. And then he like kills one of them, brings him back to life by healing him with by praying over him. And I turn to Megan, I'm like, do you think that the sets and costuming of Camelot 1967 directly affected and led to the look of Renaissance Fairs?

Because I think this is an argument that could be positive because they became a thing in the early 70s. I want to say it was 1972 was the first Renaissance Fairs. And it says only four, five years after Camelot came out and it was a huge film. I mean, Vanessa Redgrave, I mean, it's a huge, huge film.

That album I see every time I ever go to a record store that has a vinyl soundtrack section. It's there. Well, if I ever leave you got a Grammy that year for Best Soundtrack or Best Romantic Songs? I don't remember, but like it was huge.

Like the Romantic Song from that movie was like, it won tons of awards in 1967. Wow. I've never seen it. I don't know a lot about it.

Highly recommend. Yeah. All of that aside to say, hey, join us next week for more horror movie night. Put down that smartphone and listen to me.

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