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EPISODE · Jul 9, 2025 · 15 MIN

MLabs Pisa Brings Babel Fees to Cardano DeFi

from Learn Cardano Podcast · host Pete Bui

Timestamps00:00 – Introduction00:28 – What are Babel Fees?01:56 – MLabs’ Leaner Approach: Pisa02:24 – How Pisa Works02:52 – Wallet & DApp Integration Goals03:19 – Example Use Case04:19 – Pisa User Experience05:12 – Integration Options06:09 – Confirming ADA Is Still Used Under the Hood06:37 – SPO Involvement?07:34 – How Pisa Handles Transactions08:31 – What Users Receive09:30 – Pisa Fees & Revenue Model11:09 – Support for Long-Tail Tokens12:07 – Developer Integration Effort13:35 – Target Audience & SDKs14:05 – Pisa Launch Timeline14:33 – Upcoming CIP Standard15:27 – Closing RemarksIn this episode, I speak with Ben Hart, Chase, and Luke from MLabs about Pisa – their smart contract implementation of Babel fees on Cardano. Pisa allows users to pay for transaction fees, minimum ADA, and collateral using native tokens instead of ADA. The smart contract handles real-time token swaps behind the scenes and returns a ready-to-submit transaction. No changes to the Cardano ledger are required. SPOs are involved as normal, and there’s no batching – just seamless UX. Developers can integrate Pisa with a few lines of code via HTTP API or an upcoming NPM package. Topics include:What Babel fees areHow Pisa improves the user experienceDifferences from other solutions like AquariumDeveloper integration and the planned CIPLaunch timelines and supported tokensPisa launches within 60 days and is set to improve onboarding for wallets, DeFi apps, and games across Cardano.DISCLAIMER: This content is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, investment, or legal advice. I am not affiliated with, nor compensated by, the project discussed—no tokens, payments, or incentives received. I do not hold a stake in the project, including private or future allocations. All views are my own, based on public information. Always do your own research and consult a licensed advisor before investing. Crypto investments carry high risk, and past performance is no guarantee of future results. I am not responsible for any decisions you make based on this content.🔗 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq8FhvxET2k Subscribe to the audio podcast:🔗 https://bit.ly/learncardano-spotify 🔗 https://apple.co/3jEPM8C 🔗 https://learncardano.io/ Follow on Social:🔗 https://x.com/learncardano 🔗 https://facebook.com/learncardano

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