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I am both sources Is that allowed you can be on the list? Yeah, I've got sources telling me that this is happening But actually you're the source the whole time That happens a lot like from bad reporters. I just it looks some injuries say it was a good source some injuries have taken place Yeah, and you know do I know that like the big decisions in life Right like if you decide that you're gonna get married and you decide this is the person I'm gonna be with rest of my life and then your bride gets hurt right before the wedding Sometimes you pivot is what I yeah, you get called availability is an ability I'm just saying like on the in the grand scheme of things the my guy decision is so much bigger than you're like a marriage Right is kind of my point. Yeah, so you guys got to make sure you get it right.
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So my god. This is the worst podcast I Welcome to the fans football if you're new stick with us we do get into fantasy football content We try to do a great job at it but sometimes we just have fun and we're gonna be going up head-to-head today in the mock draft against our stupid producers ballers V-ducers and one of them the baby the falcon is Dump truck is about to get exposed here in a way that you will enjoy Mike take it away So I just found this out that at sometime recently Matt aka the Falcon aka poopy pants McGee disclosed that he Previously would he would take a date to an escape room as a test to see how they like can they handle the pressure? Can they solve these puzzles because he wants an intellectual match and if they can't escape then they're he's out That's brutal. You did not pass the test is that what the is that what the story is?
No, it's like a wonder like for your date They didn't pass the test. It's like a compatibility test, you know, yeah I told you get it man, and what happens then what happens if you're the one who can't figure out the puzzles. They leave me Yeah, I Like the idea that they're in two separate rooms and when if they don't come out at I mean whoever comes out first just drives away um Oh, man So yeah, I'm also reacting to some very fresh news that we'll get into that's gonna make tomorrow all the worse Before we jump into like the mock draft is gonna be amazing today It's been a while since the three of us got to combine on a team and we get to compete against the do'sers And explain some of the process and we're getting so close to regular real drafts In fact, I'm in two drafts right now in a not a league of record, but like some other leagues So it's happening and which means we have like the most recent informational middle of the preseason ADP data to go off of but I mean tomorrow's a big day for more than just the my guys tomorrow afternoon We will be just doing yeah a UDK for life will be given away tomorrow afternoon along with the sign Justin Jefferson Jersey So for the rest of your natural life, you could have championships which seems like something great It seems like someone want and the winners will be chosen and announced live on the YouTube channel on on the live stream And to enter to win you just have to have purchased a UDK or UDK plus Before the live stream which means if you bought it in the past your entered to win We're super excited to be with you tomorrow afternoon on the live stream and hop on the live stream with us We're gonna answer if you've got a question for your upcoming drafts You want to get a direct line to us hop in see if you can get your question answered and then see if you're the winner of the The ultimate draft kit which you will already be a winner if you're even in the contest because you will have an open to draft Get two things one you go to ultimate draft kit.com to check that out to I have you know, we're busy This is August. This is a busy time of year and we've got you know, Papa Josh and the Falcon He handles they handle some customer service questions that come through the support channel I have jumped in here and there and I did answer one question about whether you could be queued the UDK All right, what was the official answer the answer I chose to give in that moment was that yes if It is a written will with a feather pin that's You have to use a quill and none of that built-in ink.
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Are we good. Are we good out? We're doing good, man All right, let's jump into some news news and notes from around the league presented by USA insurance Giants rookie Malik neighbors full practice today This is something I really wanted to see after the injury that he'd be back out on the field this week in fact There's a chance he plays in the preseason game that is great news makes you really not concerned of a lingering long-term issue So however, you viewed him before the injury is probably how you should view him going forward But it's also worth reminding yourselves and ourselves what Mike brought up yesterday of how difficult it is for a top fantasy producer To come from a bottom just lots of lots to think about yeah lots of concerns for whoever else needs he needs extreme volume Which I mean all reports at a camp are that that is what he is getting In joint practices and everything so that's that's the hope is that his talent is so elite and he'll see a 28-plus percent target share and if he gets that then maybe things are okay. Yeah, man Gladys back out there.
They also signed former running back of the Chargers Josh Kelly Yes, probably it's a camp body I'd imagine because of Jasey's injury Tracy's injury and then Jimier Gibbs. What's the latest? We're hearing that he should be ready for week one Yeah, despite the kind of wishy washy quote yesterday from Dan Campbell the reports have gotten more positive I don't view this as any different to be honest when I read the full reporting It felt more like they were taking the quotes of we think he's gonna be fine to just say he should be ready by week one So I'm still holding my breath I was trying to remember when you were talking about neighbors and how about the Giants were in just the fact that like They were the bangles when they got to chase were a four and eleven team or a four and well That was also coming off with a map in that up there But there were a bad team right but that was also the year was that when Joe Burrough was yeah They went in and sat they won't know I think it was it was just that the team changed from being one of the worst offensive teams Very quickly and yes, it's a piece of that puzzle too. We don't have the burrow in New York Christian Kirk minor calf injury to Christian Kirk What do we think about that he's not a he's not a spring chicken?
You don't like to see it It's also been interesting in preseason. He hasn't necessarily been in two wide receiver sets So I'm starting to get a little bit more worried about the like I have loved drafting Christian Kirk because of the perceived floor Of just being like he is the clear-cut number one target for an offense that you know I don't think it's gonna be a you know top-five offense But it should be it should be pretty good It should be a top half offense and if you've got a clear number one latent dress But he's not on the field in two-eyed receiver sets and he's dealing with a minor calf and drive bumped him down a little bit and on top of that Andy your boy Branson's junior like the drum beat has been it started off pretty rough for him like the other reports But in the last yeah week to two weeks it has really been escalating that he's he's starting to figure it out He's making place and making people look silly so I'm He was already in that in the spot of I'm good taking a rookie wide receiver here no matter Like what their situation is because the ADP is good. It's where they used to be right like the late round Yeah, the risk reward was was usually a fantastic scenario now We got these other guys were way up there, but but Thomas is in an area where I think you should get some exposure Yeah, it seems similar to kind of a cheaper green-made Packers situation where you've got like I think Jane read the better wide receiver But you worry about the ceiling versus Christian Watson a complete unknown But you go the athleticism the traits that one period where you scored touchdowns at will that's like if you want to take the You know the rocket fuel chance that's Brian Thomas junior All right, Matthew Stafford you hate to see this because it the fragility of the Rams fantasy prospects It's always right in your face with Matthew Stafford and he did not finish practice I mean they said he was experiencing hamstring tightness. Wait, I thought it was his back.
No, no, it was hamstring Okay, and we've just said yeah, unfortunately it tightened up on him. You don't like to hear this Just because the prospects of the entire you know cup puka chiron Mm-hmm take you know if you take it's a massive hit I mean if if Stafford misses time maybe later in the season when Jimmy Garoppolo comes back from suspension Okay, they've got a serviceable backup as of right now. I believe it steps in You don't get that handsome naturally what happens when the drugs don't enhance your performance. They must be enhancing your what about like neutral Performance drugs are those legal?
Yeah, those are vitamins. I would honestly I swore I saw something about back yesterday Maybe I just quickly read quickly read through it back is way worse to me like if Stafford has a back issue Then I'm gonna that'll be red flags if it's a hamstring. Yeah, I'm okay. I have not seen anything about it I know it was I read the thing directly from the day.
Yeah, yeah I'm saying when it initially came out maybe and again, maybe I just read probably just last night. That's not good. No JJ McCarthy Under a full meniscus repair out for the entire season this stinks man for vikings fans for JJ McCarthy And JJ McCarthy comes out looks awesome in his first preseason game. Yeah, he leaves that game You know to my knowledge he wasn't injured.
It was just wow. I'm so happy with his performance. He looks great He's gonna he's gonna take over for the sacrificial baby even earlier than expected and then all of a sudden he's out for the season It certainly changes things. Yeah, what's your what's your take on Jefferson?
And we got a lump Addison in here as well It's just combo that news because he right after the JJ McCarthy news came out news broke Jordan Addison just went down Trying to sky up for a ball ends up getting carted off and it's holy crap, you know, you never want to hear carted off But that has been turned into it's just a minor ankle injury, but it's still an injury So where are you at just overall with the Vikings office because this is big stuff happening I would not be surprised if it is neutral to positive for the wide receiver crew even though JJ McCarthy look great You still a rookie don't throw a lot of touchdowns now. I don't think Sam Donald's gonna say like let's let's just Bring it into the file like a DJ more was not a weapon with Sam Donald, right? Like I mean this is I think we have You can see it either way like we have different views on this because you guys both kind of the opinion and I like your point Mike You said this on a social post yesterday. You will have consistency You will not have this period of the season which is annoying where you're like are they gonna make the change?
Are they not gonna make the change like if you get some trends with Sam darlin at least you know that that's what you're gonna continue to get But I don't like it. I personally think that JJ McCarthy is Going to be a better higher ceiling opportunity for these players Yeah, long term I definitely agree with that what we know though is at least last year and Kevin O'Connell teams they throw a lot even when Kirk Cousins went down and they had quarterbacks who were Quality of backup to backup like these are third string guys out there taking starts for the Minnesota Vikings They were still throwing a ton so at least Efficiency might struggle with Sam Donald, but volume will be there. I'm gonna go in here Yeah, I mean, you know, some might probably should have looked into it even earlier, but look we're live here and we're doing it live I didn't remember because we've had two years off from Sam Donald who was a very highly drafted prospect and people have still believed in and they've said You know, he's he's a good backup and he's gonna be fine as a starter He was the starter right now for the Vikings already I forgot how bad he was here's his touchdown because I'm like okay rookies are gonna come and what are they gonna throw Are they gonna throw for 20 touchdowns and ruin your fantasy output here are Sam Donald's career? Passing touchdowns rookie year 17 sophomore year 19 Then the next two years you still the starter didn't play the full seasons.
I'm gonna give you his 17 game pace a full season pace for those seasons 12 and 13 full season pace on passing touchdowns. Yeah, so Andy you're a hundred percent right like yeah, it's a concern It's a real concern for me whether you throw the ball a lot We saw Sam how they threw the ball more than anybody in football Did that make Terry McClure and John Johnson those guys super weapons and Sam how wasn't a super weapon fantasy either? I mean volume. Yes, Kevin O'Connell throws it a lot, but I want skill and talent And but this is what we've got and depend up Yeah, no it is now But I would not be shocked at all if Minnesota now that they know that McCarthy is out for the year If we don't see a splashy veteran name arrive on this team not named Josh Dobbs They can go out and sign Matt Ryan Oh, P River back out of retirement I don't know about those, but I think somebody in the Matt Ryan somebody in the wind Let the bet live then and the oh Genius go get him baby.
I mean this yeah, you know, that's a great name. Don't forget Sam Donald's all ghosts on the field before Yeah, James is out there man. Let's go for 5k again. Let's do this that I would be excited about so look I'm sorry Viking spans.
Yeah, it has not been it's not been great as of late and It even further concerns me about Aaron Jones Just from an offensive perspective all the study highlighted on the top 10 tips and tricks Yeah, I mean the Minnesota when I was doing that study of looking at bottom 10 offenses trying to project them anyways It's it it's hard to not put Minnesota in there and that was before the JJ McCarthy injury They just they were like a fringe team right in like they could surprise I think it'd be middle of the pack but bottom 10 is in their range of outcomes All right There's been a lot of news a lot of little injuries also Chuba Hubbard and Tyler Lockett both dealing with injuries not considered to be serious But pay attention to those that was today's news and notes presented by USA insurance learn more at usa Dot com slash insurance. We are going to take a break and come back with a live Ducers versus ballers mock draft All right, we're gonna dive right into it and a quick reminder on the other side of the break We will be live in Los Angeles for our 10th anniversary mega list show in less than two weeks tickets available at ballers live Dot com if you're in the area if you're willing to drive to the area Yes, I mean sleeper is presenting yeah this show and they're doing this mock draft get out there ballers live dot com We want to see you there you go The fantasy footballers mock draft I Mean I put a period it sounded like you put a period at the end of your sentence a pump big man I just saw me it was a fake handoff. I'm dropping back to pass. I got sacked.
You did get that I think you're gonna say that you want to see them there. I was gonna say I want to give them a fist bump Okay, but you know, that's a good good toss it. I'm important and one All right, we are diving into a live mock draft here on this show taken on the do'sers over there in Ducers Alley who look like they are super prepared We've got the Falcon smirking now with a kind of an unsettled confidence and then I think is that a scowl from Papa Jell from the it's hard to tell over the showing he actually doesn't know what's going on We are jumping right in. It's a 12 team half PPR mock draft We're gonna spread it out wide trips got three white outs two running backs one quarterback one tight in one flex four bench spots And we randomly selected some spots.
We ended up at four the doosers at pick eight Okay, away we go time you kill goes off the board first. I don't mind it No, it makes a ton of sense, especially in three wide CD lamb also makes sense at two Christian McCaffrey gonna drop to us. No McCaffrey's off the board at three and we are on the clock at 104 and you know You can have to reorient your mind. We are not enemies.
We're not mortal enemies on this show. We're actually friends We need to draft a better team than the do'sers. That's obvious. That's easy.
Well, you know, be careful So obviously I think I assume we all agree This is a three-way decision not between us but between three players You got Beijon and Breeze at running back and you got Jamar Chase at wide receiver Right, that's who we're looking at is there anyone else in the conversation here at four I'm always fine with somebody considering almond wrong in the same conversation as Jamar Chase, but yeah, but we don't have to do that Mike where would you like to go? the Man there still is a lead wide receivers on the board and having to play three it changes things But man playing hero running back here. I think is the direction I would start this I like playing hero running back if you don't know what that is hero running back is a version of zero running back where you do draft One of if you get one of the studs one of the heroes Which basically this year right now feels like only three options Christian McCaffrey Beijon and Breeze Then you're going to go away from running back for a while load up on wide receivers or even your onesie positions I think that's a good strategy on a three wide because you know you still need running backs But it's tough. I mean to me I'm between I like Beijon more than Breeze and I love Jamar Chase in a three wide So if you don't want to have that strategy if we Yeah, I'm fine with Chase here.
I like an I are on the breeze side You're on the beige on side, but we're all on in chase side. Yeah, I don't know if it makes a difference I'm looking at like you know sleepers picks there week one lines We got the Jamar Chase at 83 and a half receiving yards of Beijon at 71 rushing yards get off to a hot start Is that sway you towards Chase? I mean that doesn't but I mean I was already swayed. I was pretty sweet.
So we're chasing it. Yeah We'll go chase it. No, no He goes to the runner Jamar Chase at 104 Beijon Robinson goes off the board at 105 and then Jefferson and Amun Ra I have seen Jefferson rising in just anecdotal my participation in mocks and real drafts I have seen Jefferson going up. He is brutal.
I don't mean as a reaction to the darndall news just in general even before that happened He's the best wider Seaburn football. Yeah, that's a good headline for and it's I believe it's a bad pick I really do there's so there. I know that he is when does he become a good pick like the one to turn maybe I Guess really it's a matter of who he's going ahead of or behind like I would never take him personally ahead of Amun I'll say Brown or AJ Brown any of the Browns none of them. Well, Holly would I would definitely I guess we can't do that all right the doosers on the clock here and I don't know who's gonna be the like the project leader You know when you're in school and you got to do the project with a group But then somebody has to present which one of the doosers is making this pick we're gonna start with me okay That's we're hoping Robin Robert fall, but he did not he went right before us We're gonna go ahead and take Breeze all right here.
Yeah, you got an easy layup of a pick that stinks Are you gonna have a way to kind of you're gonna disclaim all of our pick? Yeah, I was gonna say you have a way to like make all of their picks kind of like Invalid if I need to but I think they're gonna do it themselves all right Breeze all off the board I was an option for us. I think if we've gone running back It would have been majority rules on Breeze there so you get him four picks later AJ Brown goes next Jameer Gibbs John Taylor Seakwann Barkley rounding out the first round in fact that is another trend I am noticing is the Seakwann above Chiron situation. I'm seeing that a lot Garrett Wilson starting the second round Pooka Nokua Etn and then Marvin Harrison at 204 here Okay, that is a deep cut I'm going back to the NFL draft when our Arizona card has some fresh remark drafted Marv I love you Marv and Mike explained that he would never wear pants again.
He was that excited So not going back to the pan start what you you didn't get him. I know I'm gonna get it No, I'm celebrating that the doosers did not get him fair enough The doosers are back on the clock at 205 Breeze all in the first round. What do we got going on? What's the thought process?
Also, who are you drafting? The thought process is a lot of the guys we're looking at went off the board So we're obviously Kyron would be a great pick here But we don't know that we want to double up on our bees in a three wide receiver roster So I think we're gonna reach just a touch and go for Christopher O'Labe or is it Christian? No, he drafted Christopher O'Labe who is a postman in Nebraska. You don't want to mess with the postman Drake London goes next so Breeze Hall and Chris O'Labe at your first two picks.
Oh Drake London 206 there can read 207 Kyron at 208 that almost felt it's all night That would have been our layup pick if Kyron had fallen since we went wide receiver and grab Jamar Kyron is still in that next tier of elites to me. I think there's a there's just one pick jumping off the page to me We went chase. I thought we'd be okay now. We're gonna have a quick turn.
We're gonna come right back Mm-hmm, but to me there's like there's one guy I agree that I believe should be drafted here I agree. I know who Jason wants. I don't know who Andy wants to pick Devon each Oh, okay, that is what I want. Yeah, that would be the pick for me now Just a late give you a lay of the land wide receiver.
The vonty Adams is still there if Adams was there at 304 I think that would be a strong pick in a three wide in terms of value Debo I you those guys are there. We've had a lot of white outs go off the board Kyron would have been a neat steel here But I'm comfortable. Yeah, I have made the transition to being fully comfortable with him as my running back one It is risky as a gamble, but you're you're playing to win You're not playing to just you know be a decent team that maybe squeaks in the playoffs and loses week one So a chant so far so good on there like like you know, we're agreeing with one another and you know dude I got my golden ticket. I'm ready if we if I need to sway you.
You still got a golden ticket good for one free Andy Holloway agreement Well, just make sure mics on your side for that. Otherwise, it's gonna be a real waste. Oh, that's true Chase and a Chan our first two selections routing from the fourth spot the deuceers have Reese Paul and Crystal Labe Travis Calc goes next off the board at 210 a little bit early for where I would be comfortable taking that shot 100% But Jacobs at 211 Adams at 212 John Shale in the first quarterback at 301 I you can Nico Collins We narrowly avoided Mike hard selling us Nico Collins at 304 I feel like it would have been an easy sell if Nico was here that probably would have been my now We just had a tight end episode where I said I was comfortable with Laporta at the 301 This would be the 304 just bringing it up. I know you guys are not gonna be on board for that I'm not gonna push you too hard, but I don't mind that advantage at this point in a draft I might mind it a little more than a three wide though where you have an extra spot to fill Yeah, and that does change the equation.
So I'm not gonna push there but at running back Looking at names that I know we have some agreements on Pacheco James Cook Joe Nixon for some stability. I talked yesterday about dynamic duos I'm not sure it gets better than the mix in H& combo as far as a foreign ceiling Florian ceiling running back duo and then James Conner still there at wide out We all like Debo we have a rank very high and he is way below where we would have him in terms of what running back Or wide out off the board Jalen Waddle Mike you're a big fan I am the question becomes are you good starting with H&M and Jalen Waddle? I was really hoping Nico would drop so we didn't have to make that decision because I get it if you don't want to overload with the Miami Dolphins with your second and third pick I Do like Debo yeah, and I get the three wide but right now I would out of this group I would push for Isaiah the check so that you just name them so it's to me. It's Pacheco or Debo Samuel I love both players.
I think both players are undervalued Being the fact that we are in a three wide I think that would tie break for me for the debos side I love Pacheco. I would be 100% fine with either one of these guys. Do you have a check-out? I'll have to look that up.
I think he's about 10 9 or 10 He's in my top 10 and Debo is outside of my top 12 wide consensus wise. Debo is our wider super 7 Yeah, we just did that show. I remember he was at 7. Yeah, we have him very high Mike you have him very high I mean, yeah, you've got him at 13.
Yeah, I've got him at 9 and yet 9 But that consensus wise puts him up because there's a lot of disagreement on the wider She was at this point in the draft Well, let's play this out for the sake of the audience what I think the two outcomes could be if we went with Debo Samuel And we felt like we needed to come back and stabilize the running back position We're probably gonna be in the James Connor Ramondre swift category maybe with a chance at Alvin Camaro Okay, if you flip it the other direction we go Pacheco, you know, you're probably talking about Cooper cup who I like Michael Pittman a stabilizer Devonta Smith think though. Oh, okay. DJ Moore. I don't want to take think I don't want to take Take tank work.
You don't want to take it. I'd rather take him a 504 and go shot at 80 p But anyway, I will say that so that is a really good thing to do if you're listening and you're trying to decide between running back And why do she look at who's gonna be there next because that convinced me to switch the Pacheco side I feel like I'm like a lot more than those running backs. You guys want to do that? Yes, okay, but check off the board I'm loving this team Jalen hurts goes 305 Samuel Porta at 306 Okay, Mike Evans off the board.
Ducers are on the clock. Reese Hall was the first round pick Crystal Lave their second round pick and I I can see Jason shaking his head because he thinks that the doozers are just gonna quick draw on Debo. Yeah, but I know that's a okay. Yeah, they took debo Samuel.
We know what no need to explain What was our other guy we were considering there? Yeah, I mean it's good your team is actually I mean I don't want to compliment anything you guys do However, it's working out very well the fact that we were considering breeze Hall at the the 104 and you got him picks later And we were considering debo at the 304 and you got him picks later. You're getting good value now Listen to our show a lot. Yeah, I mean I hope seven whiteouts have gone off the board one thing to consider when I was playing Outmost scenarios was the fact that three wide more white outs might go cup is gone Waddles gone DJ Moore who I love is gone and then digs a neighbor so doozers back on the clock I think I've given them enough time to make the wrong decision.
Yeah, I mean they don't need a lot of time to make a Thumb pick the truth is I'm still I'm still happy with several water shevers I mean I'll say that and then it will all be water shevers, but there's a handful of guys. I really like here So I think we're set up. Okay. All right.
What's your pick? It's funny They went training bright and I was I was gonna bring the name up if you got back to us as a Option at 409 chase a Chan and pacheco our first three off the board Jason is looking around tell us what you think. Oh, just as James Cook made it back. No, that is interesting But he's looking around because he wants to take think Dell as our wide receiver to you mentioned earlier Andy you want to play the ADP game wait till the fifth what we've seen in this draft is because it is three water sheber not the two two In a flex it's three two in a flex where the water shevers have all been pushed up You know you talk about Michael Pittman or Cooper cup Oh, Devonti Smith making it back to us.
None of them did and there's six picks between our next pick more currently with one wide receiver So to me, we've got to take a wider Andrews, I mean I think the value is all in concave is there but if you look at yeah, you've got two good tight ends And obviously both could go to team one and team two team three already has a tight end So we could end up with either one of them at our next pick at wide receiver There's take down and tee Higgins are really the only Cooper Cooper. Yeah, I've cooled on him a little bit I got to remember how hot I was for a mark Season what you've cooled but you were really hot. So what's your temperature is it still above average? Yeah, it's like a it's like I think some people call it a low-grade 99.9.
I would not have fever Thank you. It's not some people say that's a low-grade fever. No, it's not just be too good. I feel totally fine Okay, I got a little bit of the sweats, but most of my sweats are for that normal are for tank I mean this draft is working out well for me I like it, but what do you guys think I mean go tank down come back with probably Alvin Camara in the next round if you want to Or one of those tight ends Mike I heard from you I need you to weigh in here because James has got a low-grade fever and I don't trust me saying it's it's tough that a Tank Dell would be my highest ranked wide receiver that I would be going with the fact that James Cook you haven't had to see Higgins, let me just double check Yeah, yeah, probably not be a consideration for a chasing anyway, you're right right right?
I'm good with with think Dell, but the fact that James Cook made it back is I know it's three wide But having a champion check on James Cook all guys who I have a strong conviction can and should finish as top 12 running backs that It's it's hard to bypass that with cooking here in hindsight I would have rather taken Debo and then come back with James Cook, right? But for sure but we didn't and if I compare Pacheco and Tank Dell to Debo and James Cook I'm just as happy with that I would take think Dell here and then see if we get lucky with Cook or mix in or Walker or Camara coming back to us if We're just cooking we'll definitely if we're sitting here though and saying that wide receivers are gonna go up the board more often There's a chance that we get Andrews and Kinkade off the board and a quarterback and a wide out Yeah, I'm gonna get a fun game. Let's get a shot after Dell was James Cook Yeah, Joe mix and T Higgins Camara and then surround so we are back if we want to go running back We've lost the names. I really liked who cook can walker still there guys.
Yeah cook mix and Camara I mean Ken Walker's great. I'm already Cooper still on the board. It is three wide pickings And you have both that ends you can take mark Andrews here is probably this is probably time to take mark I think so I've talked about I like leaving the draft with one of the top five mark Andrews is I think two of our number two tight ends overall You've gotten guys that you like though Jay So I'm gonna let Mike make the pick and he can decide if you want to hear bone Walker or mark bone Caners who I did you guys see was in a wreck yesterday? They said the wreck was really bad and yet mark Andrews super-mandate like we can flip the truck and just walk away So hopefully mark is actually okay over there.
It's your pick Mike. I know you did I'm an officially sound care what you do. You don't care what I do. No, you you live your best life.
Okay. Okay. I would lie I lied I was really what mark Andrews there can walker I need to get a good walker. He's going to be great So you took him as kind of a lead the parade.
Yeah, what can K pickings and Andrews went the next three picks which at least I mean, I guess the deuce is already had McBride So we weren't gonna hand off mark Andrews to them But the deuceers have re-saw a lavadee bow and McBride I'm guessing that they're staring down that running back spot, but maybe not maybe they like the decision for us like between Walker and mark Andrews I I hate that I hate this section of wide receivers like I get it with a mark Cooper I the numbers make sense the numbers 100 makes and the offense should be good And yet I still don't really want to draft a mark Cooper and Keenan Allen is got to got a rookie What rookie quarterback it Kirk's got his injury and Terry's got a rookie quarterback it this section of wide receivers is and Keenan just He hit 300 on the scale. Yeah 300 pounds on the scale That is the dumbest storyline of my life. I watched the second episode of hard knocks Kean looks totally normal He wasn't eating the whole time. He was not eating the entire episode was that episode brought to you by five?
I fact you know who was eating was DJ Moore. He was at the ice cream shop mad props Mad props DJ more. Hi, it is really stupid. We're gonna take a break and then come back with the deuceers pick All right, hopefully the you know we iced a kicker by taking the break You know I mean like to overthinking like I think there's a chance way to call time out They go back you're being here, but I'm do'sers.
What are we doing? I'm our a cooper We I mean we are riding super dirty here. Wait, what? That's your fault.
No, I know I want a depot. Oh, I know I'm just saying I'm not a truth We are well Andrews is not a wide receiver. We said we didn't care Mike. We cared I think we're okay on on wide receiver No, no, no, we cared to have somebody to blame I'm our Cooper than Kenan Allen the DeAndre Swift Aaron Jones and George Kittle round out the fifth round and then James Connor Always a little sad when he goes because you always I was like to grab me some James Conner late in dress We're already three running backs deep Kyle Pizz Anthony Richardson at 603 and David Montgomery on the board the doosers with three white Well, I'm a debo and I'm our Cooper training bright at Titan breeze Hall at running back They have adopted Jason the hero RB strategies thus far and they are back on the clock at 605 and Will they keep it going or grab a running back?
Let's find out like we are going low-t on this one boys And we are taking Jaden Reed, okay, so you really are using the hero running back strategy Which I think in a three wide receiver league is a great strategy you can load up on some You know later running backs who you know guys like Jerome Ford who might be able to get off to a strong start And then you pick up waiver pickups to fill in those running back positions It's it's a strategy that can definitely win a league after Reed went Ramondre McClure and in Kirk and I great fantastic. I know exactly who the pick is you know the pick is Yes, I know the pick is there are two players in my mind That I'm paying attention to right here. Yeah, there's a few one of them for you is gonna be Calvin Ridley And that's what the pick is that's my vote as well, okay, and then hopefully coming back with Kyler Okay, maybe but I was okay the fact that we could take either Kyler or burrow because burrow stacks would you March? Okay, I think that that would be wonderful here That was kind of the tip from even a better situation because you can wait and two of the three teams between us have quarterback So even if they take burrow we go Kyler if they take Kyler we go burrow all I heard was driving Calvin Ridley off the board at the 609 nice pick Worthy Harris a Dunes a Pollard Angrom Godwin and now we've got a problem.
Yeah, it's a good problem to have well the bigger problem for me honestly Are there some rashi rice on the board? It's where she writes because at that spot where we just took Ridley I would have been very happy 80p wise to get her she rice on the squad there The reason I didn't even approach it is because we had to check them so it was well Let's balance out with let's try and get the Tennessee office See if they have anything to give us it will be from Calvary But now that rice is back and then just push the quarterback spot back Joe burrow getting the You know what I'm on that side now. I know I would be great I can still dare Jordan love jadon Daniels. Yeah, there are other options and because we went with Kenneth Walker I feel like you know loading up on water shiver of three water shiver I'm gonna be very happy with that there's plenty of quarterbacks that are good later and maybe we could still do a stack With one of them.
I okay bye-bye We went with Rice and then most are when next in the burrow and Murray went back to back So and I think that which I love because I know the users were gonna take one of those for sure Oh, and they're all nodding profusely literally we're down to three guys and it was those three guys Oh, it was most of a burrow and Murray. Yeah, excellent I love that it worked out of course. It's sometimes point of the game you lose but We're not taking rice at the 609 like you he still has the suspension works that will be a looming factor I think for most of the season unless you get an official report that everything of the court cases been everything's pushed back If you get that then you'll have the all clear but him as a wide receiver for Well, and then really is the three. I mean that that worked out sensationally All right, the doosers back on the clock I've given them so much time There's no way that if I handed over to them one of them's not gonna talk into a microphone So who is the pick and I didn't feel like a lot of time But I think we're gonna go ahead and lean on my homerism and take Jordan love to stack with you.
Wow, okay Jordan read your guy Jane read Jordan love is a back-end stack that I like putting together So I don't mind that at all I also think this is a this is one of the reasons why it's really fun to do the draft the way that we're doing it Three of us versus three of them, you know, we talked so much about the ADP comparison tool different platforms different systems Jason talked about stacks like they could have gone a different quarterback There were several by ADP that might have been higher But they went with the guy that matched up with the player They just took and you're gonna see some a lot of variation in your drafts exactly like that So might have been a bit of surprise to to Jason but fit the fit the doosers desires Yeah, don't mind at all after Jordan loved when's a mere wipe Brock Bowers? Absolute steel at 710. No, not really a steal. Not really a steal But I'm excited about him Addison Moss Deontae Johnson Dak who unfortunately I was kind of eyeballing as a hopeful selection later Hollywood Brown and Jalen Warren and the doos are back on the clock right now Just give you a lay of the land and give them a moment to decide still riding dirty with Breeze Hall all alone But then a la vie debo and a Mardi Cooper and Jane read it white out that's super strong Training brides snagging him in the fourth and then Jordan love with the bag of money in the south one of the things I love is that like they they load it up and they've got four really good wide receivers and I like Our wide receivers much more and we have three awesome running backs So good job guys.
We got there. Yeah in the wise words that I tell my toilet doosers eat it Was that enough time? Yeah, we had enough time. We're gonna go ahead and take our RB two here in the eighth round in Javontae Williams Okay, all right, that's that's a good hero RB pick when you get a guy who is going to have opportunity And there is the the narrative the path of healing from that injury two years ago Where maybe you're getting you know a top 15 running back in the later rounds?
You got to take that shot. I don't I don't agree with the bet like I think they're gonna be a really bad offense and he's gonna be I probably would have taken the same running back here just for the potential after Javontae Echler went which is before Brian Robinson, so I thought look is look at him preseason is definitely the guy over at me So Brian Robinson going behind Echler's interesting Chub went off the board of my Conkey Just to give a lay of the land for our roster. We've taken three wide outs in the last four picks There are five selections remaining and one's gonna need to be a quarterback one a tight end Both feel like positions we could wait on right now because I would say our eyes are on golf Daniel's The tight end room which the teams between us and our next pick two of them have a tight end But we're down to David Najoku and Jake Ferguson as players were like happy to okay, right? I think in the ninth round.
That's where those guys belong As we say do we wait one round and take absolutely because because we don't expect both to go off here at this turn So I wouldn't take a tight end here and we you discussed on the tips and tricks episode yesterday about those You know those like seven seventh eighth round tight ends don't usually work you want to get a value I like if we don't get one of those top guys it needs to be a ninth round pick or later. So yeah here Two a couple rookies can call in and Brian Thomas on the board at running back There's some starters Devin Singletary and Brian Robinson along with Gus Edwards potentially And then you mentioned wanting to see more to Jay Spears that you can pay attention to down in the draft This is this is another names. We should be thinking about there I it's a tough scenario because I Warded at a point now where I really like a lot of wide receivers of upside Coleman. I'm still in on Christian Watson Brian Thomas Jackson Smith and jigba is like Jason is man.
It's the he is such a tough player of the The excitement for him in his rookie year was through the roof and you did not get any of them You did not get anything back for I mean you you bought it He played but he didn't come with the excitement that thing was at zero percent on Rotten tomatoes You hated what you were watching but not necessarily his faults. So it's just you Remembering you know why was I was hot for Mario Cooper. Do we need to remember that we were hot for JSN? Yeah, and I don't think we mentioned it in the news, but Tyler Lockett is dealing with a leg injury Mike McDonald said Oh, come on.
Let's see if you can do it Mike McDonald said that the issue isn't too serious But we don't we don't have a lot of information, but that is a path for JSN to be to rise Yeah, I don't mind that pick it'd be awesome if you had like a little index card that had four like McDonald's McDaniel's pictures Just hold it up and say which one you mean that's why She cheats like a mikchee chee chee because between the Seahawks head coach Mike McDonald the dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel And both the singer and actor Michael Mcdonald my brain and you didn't even mention former offensive coordinator head coach Josh McDaniel don't do it and you didn't even mention a 20 piece chicken McNuggy It is sweet and sour some of us conflate coaches with chicken All right, so what do we want to do Jason you can take the I'm in on one of those wider severs Yeah, I'm on the wide receiver side too. I don't care which one Thomas JSN when deciding I'm taking a look at our current wide receivers Jamar Chase tanked out Calvin really rushy rice I think they're all really really good. I want high upside. I think Jackson Smith and Jigba is a great pick So that would be my selection John Thumbrucks goes next and perdy Ferguson Coleman Hopkins and Watson now based on what Mike just said Guys I lied well.
No, I mean I lied if I wanted to get I see those guys as so similar I don't mind them. You want to take the joke here Yeah, I think that makes sense He's kind of the last one after him you're punting all the way down to Pat Friday on youth who would be my last pick like my last round pick And I'm fine with that, but I do think no joke who is a tear-up. All right We're getting down to the end here single Terry and Robinson and Edwards the starters back to back to back Those are the only players I was really considering over no joke Just adding more depth to the running back room sure But we took the joke who and those guys went off the board the doosers were probably considering one of those three as well is that true? Yep, you can't not they can't hear you nod, John He's profusely nodding with a sad nod because we wanted Gus Edwards right here And he literally went the pick before it got to us.
Well then take that in single Terry. No, well, he's already gone too We're taking the upside guy. Taji spears off the boards for the doosers Uh seems more quarterback's go Caleb Williams James and Williams Brian Thomas to uh And then starting the 10th round Goddard Benson Sutton Zeke doosers back on the clock After the hot wide receiver run that they started to draft with it been love Jevonte and Spears trying to fill in those back end running backs to a company breeze So you were back on the clock at 10 o'clock you have all your position players. You can do what you want We're gonna go chase brown.
Yeah, I like that in fact when that was went off the board at 712 I made a mental note to kind of keep chase brown tucked away We ended up with doing good. He's going drum solo or morocas. All right. All right.
I will explain his dance also unable to be picked up on microphone Lawrence hawkins and golf went off the board that was his jane Daniels dance that is my jane Daniels dance When you look at the quarterbacks that we're drafting very very very late here on quarterbacks and you're just getting You're getting hopefully a Kyler Murray rookie season here when he was with cliff kingsbury finishes the quarterback seven You know he's an accurate passer. He's a great runner. He has a wonderful value. I would have taken him over Caleb Williams around before over Trevor Lawrence.
I personally would have taken him over Jared golf both good options So yeah, I love that we waited and gotten a jocoo and jane Daniels in the ninth and 10th round while loading up on studs at running back and wider She had this been a live You know a live draft which the computers sometimes get crazy with their second quarterbacks If if we could have waited this long got jane and then jared gough on the way back out I would have been all about that now it is interesting like no consideration has been given to jason herbert Who is now drafted in the 11th round and I just think that's worth a conversation because kaleb Lawrence gough and daniels There is not it's a decent chance herbert. It's just fine and fine for fantasy could be it's I mean It's the combination of Not only the offensive concerns that we've had for the whole off season of knowing that the chargers while they should be a higher scoring offense There it'll be very high t combined with his injury pushing him down to here All right, we're back on the clock after the Daniels pick we can do what we want because we are uh, we've got our ones He's taken care of we're at five wide receivers on the roster There are some names that are interesting at that position you could uh, you know kurtis samuel with this opportunity in buffalo And i'm Mitchell seems to have an opportunity with injury in indian apple is klilio shakir Where are you guys real quick on the buffalo wider? I take shakir over samuel for upside because I have I've been the off season of kurtis samuel I'm trying not to let just one preseason thing completely sway But it looks like it might be shakir over and this is leaving keon koman out of the equation I'm saying between kurtis and shakir. I think I may have switched to I prefer chasing after shakir I'm sorry i'm in this office with the extension of the play.
Sorry jay, so that's why I would go with him But jay said what do you think? Yeah, I'm still very much in the belief that kurtis samuel is better than than shakir will be more involved However, the type of player that kurtis samuel is doesn't really make sense for our roster We're loaded at wide receiver now and we're looking for high you know potential So you know shakir makes probably more sense for our roster build than kurtis samuel who's just like a veteran plug and play One thing i'll point out we only have three running backs. Um, so there's still a starter available There are studs i'm curious who you think a star a full star Yeah, chuba is the starting running back for carolina. He was the running back I believe nine over the back half of the year he's injured right now right the second He is but they said it was not serious and jonathan brooks will not be playing to start the year Just throwing that out there because to start the year though.
He wouldn't be in our lineup That's where we got a Chan and pacheco and walker So he's not gonna crack our lineup until later when jonathan brooks comes back later You might see someone like reko dowdle And i'm mike's on bother form is in the sense of taking over for a really high powered offense in the cowboys So like i would rather go that way for our build personally i would be personally i'd doubt it would be the guy Uh, but it would go for me it would go dowdle jakey dawdle and then chuba Both of you disrespecting the chuba. I it's everything jason said of this is i want a player Jonathan brooks is not going to go week five He's not the full-time running over us. No, but it's it's after once he's back Is it just now a mess of multiple running back or it's like all the other guys that you were saying I but i think that they put for a bad offense that you're choosing between the preppers or the cowboys I think that there's a chance for both dowdle and dawdins by the time a couple weeks in the season have have passed that one of them You can tell they are the guy for like to break it down for listeners here It rosser construction really matters for our team that has three stud running backs I would much rather take a guy who could have something happen break out later. Um, you know like a reko dawdle if i was the doosers team I would prefer a chuba.
I would you know, you're looking at yeah, you pick up people off the way but you need starters week one Well, look at their shot i took the outle for you mike and then and i'm at mitchell goes 1105 sharban eight kurtis amul with the doosers back on the clock And real quick to put a bow on that the carolina panthers opening schedule is the saints the chargers the raiders the bangles the bears Like this is that's gonna be tough for the running back. All right doosers. You've got two picks left They went with kaleer secure. Okay Friar muth jacobie komet and mike williams rounding out the second to last round and then john trolpomer I was gonna bring his name up, but I did not chuba goes at 1202 kurt cousins kendry miller and the doosers have a final selection to add to the rosser Which they will be doing in just a minute With you in a moment everybody you can make a picture this is why this is why in school They make someone the leader of the group right because if they all do it no one does Not taking his pick Oh, that's a good find.
That's a really good pickle. I would like to have this last pick. I don't care Go ahead. I'm going right off the board and roger's goes in this round.
Dobbins is gone Jason You can i'm gonna take a guy that we all believed in going at the last year and no one believes in going into this year But if jane daniels has a great season and is a really good quarterback which is our quarterback and you're drafting for things Don't click it. I don't like it. Just hold on a second. It's jane daniels.
But he played too much preseason We just way too much preseason to feel good about the Dachshund we got that I was actually more encouraged by what was happening in the preseason for dachshund and then literally this morning There was another report of washington still looking for their white receiver suits. It's not good dude. It's not good Like that's it's your pick But i'm not to look at the last round pick that's like the whole game or something your last round pick You're hoping that you know week one immediately because that do I have something here or is this the guy I get to cut for the week one way Superstars, okay. Well, I got to make picks.
I'm taking it on tavian. Yeah, okay. I'm back in the man I love don't even wicks. I you know when you're at the last round that's roll down Just scroll down further and make sure that you're looking at all the names All right Why don't you run our team back for the listeners jason and one of the doosers that can play paper Exhizers the why you read it and i was gonna read their team so at quarterback and tight end We've got jane daniels and david de jocco happy with those late round options at wide receiver jemar chase tank del Calvin riddley rusci rice jason and don tavian wicks loaded with six of those guys and then it running back to von achan Isaiah pacheco can bone walker and reco dattle.
I love our time. I like that team. Oh, yeah, all right I like this team. Oh, well, I assume al's gonna read the team back here.
Yeah, I'll read it here We got excuse me Jordan love throwing the football for us trabic ride at tight end We've got breeze haul javon to william's tajes spears chase brown and jaylin right at running back and our wide receivers are chris ollabe D bocevio amari cooper jaylin read jaylin read jaylin read and kaleelia Shekir all right You can weigh in in the comments if you're watching over on youtube and If you didn't know as we wrap things up if you didn't know in addition to being the number one fantasy platform sleeper also has dfs picks And you can download the app and use the code ballers to get 100 deposit match terms and conditions apply head over to ultimate draf Get calm get in on our udk for life giveaway, which will take place on the afternoon of my guys day For us this week it is one of the remaining episodes of this week. I will say that I will tease thank you And the next week we've got breakout sleepers bus values We got a new segment next week called take swap we're gonna give that a shot and the mega list show live in la on Saturday of next week so you can get tickets at ballers live calm that'll do it for today's episode of the show Thank you to our fine producer team that drafted while making sure this show goes up. So appreciate it. Goodbye Thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballer's podcast join our fantasy football community on join the foot Dot com and follow us on Twitter at the FF ballers