Modeling Curiosity for Kids: Michael J. Rosen on Science, Story, and Wonder

In this inspiring episode of Reading With Your Kids, Jed welcomes back author Michael J. Rosen to celebrate How to Dive to the Deepest Place on Earth, his picture book collaboration with legendary astronaut and ocean explorer Dr. Kathy Sullivan. Michael shares the fascinating story of how he first met Kathy—before the Mariana Trench dive was even an idea—and how her lifelong curiosity led her to choose between charting the ocean floor and flying into space. Michael walks us through the mind‑bending reality of the Mariana Trench expedition: four hours sinking in a tiny sphere through total darkness, a narrow "column" of ocean actually explored, and the incredible engineering that relies purely on gravity and buoyancy to go down and back. He explains his role as "interpreter" for young readers—taking Kathy's technical experiences and turning them into language, images, and structure that a seven- or eleven-year-old can grasp, while illustrations carry much of the complex science. The conversation widens into a heartfelt reflection on curiosity—why any act of wondering is a form of exploration, and how adults can model that for kids in everyday life, from noticing spiders and birds to asking big questions together instead of pretending to know it all. In the final segment, Jed chats with April Chrystal Holmes about Invisible String, book two in her Eras Journey middle grade series. April shares how she tackles big feelings like pet grief and friendship breakups with warmth, adventure, and '90s-style heart, giving kids language and stories to help them carry loss, not "get over" it.