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EPISODE · Jul 28, 2026 · 37 MIN

Modern Burning Bushes

from The Elsa Kurt Show · host Elsa Kurt

Some conversations don’t fit in neat categories, and that’s exactly the point. We sit down with author, professor, and former technology executive Dr. Setrag Koshafian to talk about what happens when a lifelong pursuit of mathematics, computer science, and philosophy doesn’t dissolve faith, but sharpens it. His journey moves from agnosticism and mocking Christians to a grounded commitment to Jesus Christ, and he shares what finally broke through intellectually and personally. From Moses noticing a “strange sight” in Exodus, we ask a provocative question: what are the modern burning bushes we keep walking past? That takes us into topics many Christians aren’t sure how to handle, from UFO claims and coming disclosure conversations to the deeper issue underneath them: spiritual discernment in a world full of noise. We also explore how the drive to live forever shows up in new forms, including AI, transhumanism, brain tech, and the cultural hunger to redefine reality on our own terms. We go there on science and faith too, including why Dr. Koshafian thinks compartmentalizing is a mistake and why emerging technologies like quantum computing raise questions that are not only technical but theological. Along the way, we talk revivals, the Trinity, why certain biblical passages are rarely preached, and why end times teaching should ultimately lead to hope, not fear, because God’s kingdom ends with a new heaven and a new earth. If you enjoy Christian apologetics, faith and science, and clear thinking about culture and technology, you’ll want to hear this one. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves big questions, and leave a review so more listeners can find the show. Find Setrag's books here: https://amzn.to/3RsK9xOSupport the showElsa's AMAZON STORE Elsa's FAITH & FREEDOM MERCH STOREElsa's BOOKSElsa Kurt: You may know her for her uncanny, viral Kamala Harris impressions & conservative comedy skits, but she’s also a lifelong Patriot & longtime Police Wife. She has channeled her fierce love and passion for God, family, country, and those who serve as the creator, Executive Producer & Host of the Elsa Kurt Show with Clay Novak. Her show discusses today’s topics & news from a middle class/blue collar family & conservative perspective. The vocal LEOW’s career began as a multi-genre author who has penned over 25 books, including twelve contemporary women’s novels. Clay Novak: Clay Novak was commissioned in 1995 as a Second Lieutenant of Infantry and served as an officer for twenty four years in Mechanized Infantry, Airborne Infantry, and Cavalry units .  He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in 2019. Clay is a graduate of the U.S. Army Ranger School and is a Master Rated Parachutist, serving for more tha...

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Some conversations don’t fit in neat categories, and that’s exactly the point. We sit down with author, professor, and former technology executive Dr. Setrag Koshafian to talk about what happens when a lifelong pursuit of mathematics, computer science, and philosophy doesn’t dissolve faith, but sharpens it. His journey moves from agnosticism and mocking Christians to a grounded commitment to Jesus Christ, and he shares what finally broke through intellectually and personally. From Mose...

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