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MONDAY MATTERS with Jen Schwanke and Will Parker – Your Greatest Joy Is Not What You May Think

from Principal Matters: The School Leader's Podcast with William D. Parker

Welcome back to another installment of Monday Matters! This week, Dr. Jen Schwanke and I are discussing chapter 13 from my new book Whose Permission Are You Waiting For? An Educator’s Guide to Doing What You Love. The focus of chapter 13 is based on avoiding the mindset that our greatest joy has to be in the work we do. It can be really easy to let your work define your whole identity. As individuals who work hard jobs with long hours, school leaders are especially prone to this kind of thinking. Separating one’s identity from one’s job is hard when you spend eight, nine, or ten hours at work every day. The reality of our world is that we live in a time where hard work is celebrated and promotions are encouraged; chasing the next big work achievement is hardwired into most of us. So, it is important to remind ourselves that work does not have to be our entire identity. Sometimes, work will be disappointing. It may not be as fulfilling as we wanted it to be, or we end up hating the job that comes with the promotion we longed for. If you are reading this, take some time today to reflect on what brings you joy both at work and outside of work. Listen in to hear our full conversation on this topic!  On another note, Jen Schwanke has a new book coming out soon! Visit the ASCD website to learn more! The post MONDAY MATTERS with Jen Schwanke and Will Parker – Your Greatest Joy Is Not What You May Think appeared first on Principal Matters.

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