More Curious Than Certain: Children, Change, and Collective Care w/ Kathy Pomer

Master educator, advocate, mentor, and leader in the early childhood movement Kathy Pomer, reminds us that children have a lot to teach us. In fact, they can—and should—be mystic guides towards beloved community. Together we reckon with history, ranging from racialized early childhood care in the U.S., revolutionary practices born out of WWII, to learnings during the COVID-19 pandemic and modern Jewish lenses for building inclusive communities. We reflect on motherhood as an invitation to be both teachers and students, to both guide and wonder. This intergenerational friendship reflects back the beauty of breaking down binaries, choosing and shaping our faith as we age, and accepting the responsibility of applying personal growth to the communities we serve.Follow Kathy’s journey @gatherroundconsulting and gatherroundconsulting.comConversations with visionaries are released on full moons.Released May 12, 2025. Original music by Isabel Mares.