EPISODE · Apr 3, 2026 · 8 MIN
Move over Minneapolis, California is the new fraud capital of the world
from The Charlie James Show Podcast
California has recently overtaken Minneapolis as the premier hub for widespread fraud, earning a reputation as the nation’s new "fraud capital." This shift highlights a massive surge in sophisticated financial crimes, identity theft, and organized scams within the state, often surpassing previous levels seen in other historical hotspots. As authorities struggle to keep pace with the evolving tactics used by bad actors, the state's massive economy and digital infrastructure have become primary targets for large-scale exploitation.
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00:00 Well, move over Minneapolis and Minnesota. California is now the new fraud capital of the world. U.S. Attorney Bill Esselier just revealed that California is likely in the, the fraud in California is likely in the hundreds of billions of dollars. Yeah, in response to the governor, not good enough, not good enough. They've not taken fraud seriously for, for over a decade here in California. They've let people out of prisons. They've decriminalized it. 00:30 I call him the fraud king for a reason. He has reigned over billions and billions of dollars of fraud, whether we're investigating homeless fraud, EDD fraud, and now hospice fraud. It's gonna be into the hundreds of billions of dollars under his watch. Remember, none of this fraud could happen unless California issued these licenses. California is responsible for administering hospice programs, licensing these doctors, and they are supposed to have passed regulations by January 1st of this year. 00:56 that were called by the auditor in California said California does not have sufficient regulations to crack down on fraud. He's refusing to implement those regulations because he doesn't want to own the problem. We're going to do our job. You're going to see a lot more fraud. We're going to work hand in hand with this task force. And I think it's going to be in the hundreds of billions eventually. uh $50 million in just... of billions of dollars. Hundreds of billions of dollars. In fact, the FBI today... 01:24 raided the home of a psychologist and a nurse in a huge hospice fraud scam. Gladwin and Amelieu Gill billed Medicare for $7.45 million. Now listen to this. We all know what hospice is. That's basically where you go for end-of-life care. 01:53 This hospice had a 97 % survival rate. 02:00 These people going into hospice going, you know what? I actually feel a lot better now. You did build Medicare for this, right? Oh yeah, I I feel a lot better now. I think I'm just going to go home. 02:18 Good. Hospice, end of life care, and they've got a 97 % survival rate? 02:25 Meanwhile, 700 out of 1800 hospices in Los Angeles County have been flagged for fraud. This isn't just a fraud case. This is a system problem and now they're facing federal prison. How's this, how is anything like this? 02:50 happen. And the bigger question is how deep do you think it's going to go? 02:58 But I will say this, the bigger an organization, the easier they are to defraud. There was a guy that decided he was going to send, I think it was Google. I believe it was Google. This guy just decided, you know what I'm going to do? I'm just going to send him an invoice. This is an invoice, see if they pay it. So he sent it in, and they paid it. 03:28 Let's see if they do it again. And he sent another one in. In fact, he defrauded Google out of over a million dollars. But it took him a long time to find it because somebody obviously said, hey, what is this for? I don't remember authorizing this. Or he came up during some budget audit. But that's how he's, so if Google, 03:54 With the amount of employees and all of the infrastructure they have, if they're easy to defraud, just imagine how easy the United States government is to defraud. It's got to be a piece of cake. I mean, come on, if Somalis can get off the boat. Now, granted, do I believe that they came up with these ideas on their own? Yeah, probably not. They were probably taught 04:23 by the Democrats in Minnesota exactly how to defraud the United States of America, but it was easy. And look, look, look what it took a young reporter named Nick Shirley to go and find all of this. Just one young independent journalist. 04:42 However, when you find out what was going on in Minneapolis, there were actually news stories going about that until, well, we'll go back into about 2013. So it's been going on for a long time, but nobody noticed it. And then we found out why. Because under Tim Walz, they told anybody that if they report ...
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