“Moving the goalpost”
from Deadline: White House Hosted by Retired Major General Steven Lepper, Rachel Maddow, Nicolle Wallace
December 2nd, 2025, 4pm: After a multi-hour Cabinet meeting and a shifting story out of the White House, Nicolle Wallace calls in the expertise of a former top JAG as well as MS Now colleague Rachel Maddow. For more, follow us on Instagram @deadlinewh For more from Nicolle, follow and download her podcast, “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace,” wherever you get your podcasts. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts.
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Nicolle Wallace is joined by colleague Rachel Maddow to discuss the latest White House position on the boat strike experts say may constitute a war crime – as well as her new podcast “Burn Order.”
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