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Oct 3, 2026 28 min

MTM- Interview with Joe Wolverton. Birthright Citizenship

from More Than Medicine Hosted by Dr. Robert E. Jackson

Send us Fan Mail Birthright citizenship sounds like a simple rule until you read the fine print the Constitution actually includes. Dr Robert Jackson sits down with constitutional lawyer Joe Wolverton to unpack a recent Supreme Court ruling discussed as Trump v Barber, and why the Court’s reasoning has sparked such fierce disagreement about the Fourteenth Amendment’s Citizenship Clause. If you have ever heard “born here means you’re American” and assumed that was the end of the story, this conversation challenges that assumption head-on. We walk through why the 14th Amendment was written in the first place, how the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” became the hinge point, and why the majority and the dissent talk past each other on the meaning of jurisdiction and allegiance. Joe explains the Court’s reliance on English common law ideas like jus soli and precedent like United States v Wong Kim Ark, then contrasts it with historical statements from key Reconstruction figures and the broader tradition of constitutional interpretation grounded in original public meaning. From there, we connect the legal theory to today’s immigration policy reality: incentives for birth tourism, the idea of citizenship as membership with loyalty and duty, and what options might exist through Congress or the states. If you care about constitutional law, the Supreme Court, immigration, or the meaning of American citizenship, you will come away with clearer questions to ask and better sources to consult. Subscribe, share this episode with a friend, and leave a review, then tell us: should citizenship be based on birthplace, allegiance, or both? https://thenewamerican.com/print/the-myth-of-birthright-citizenship/ Support the show https://www.jacksonfamilyministry.com https://bobslone.com/home/podcast-production/

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Send us Fan Mail Birthright citizenship sounds like a simple rule until you read the fine print the Constitution actually includes. Dr Robert Jackson sits down with constitutional lawyer Joe Wolverton to unpack a recent Supreme Court ruling discussed as Trump v Barber, and why the Court’s reasoning has sparked such fierce disagreement about the Fourteenth Amendment’s Citizenship Clause. If you have ever heard “born here means you’re American” and assumed that was the end of the story, this co...

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MTM- Interview with Joe Wolverton. Birthright Citizenship

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  1. 0:00 Welcome And The Controversy Ahead
  2. 1:01 Trump v Barber And The Ruling
  3. 2:55 Why The Fourteenth Amendment Exists
  4. 7:40 Roberts, Common Law, And Jurisdiction
  5. 10:50 Dissent Focuses On Allegiance
  6. 13:10 Howard, Bingham, And Original Meaning
  7. 17:55 Vattel And Citizenship By Parentage
  8. 21:45 Incentives, Protests, And Sovereignty
  9. 25:40 Legislatures, States, And What To Do

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