MTM - Interview with Joe Wolverton..Nullification

Send us Fan Mail What if the Constitution’s simplest safeguard has been hiding in plain sight? We dive into nullification as a clean, contract-based concept: the states, as principals, created a federal agent with enumerated powers, and when that agent wanders outside the four corners of the contract, the states can treat those actions as void. No saber-rattling, no chaos—just the same logic courts use every day when parties breach an agreement. With constitutional lawyer Joe Wolverton, we unpack James Madison’s playbook from Federalist 45 and 46, where interposition and noncooperation form a peaceful path to restore balance. We ground the theory with modern examples—state-level marijuana markets, raw milk sales, and selective firearms enforcement—that show the Tenth Amendment already works when states simply refuse to lend resources to federal overreach. The myth of troops marching evaporates when you look at the map: these states remain firmly in the Union, and life goes on. We also confront the money problem. Federal grants come with strings that tug policy far from home. Saying no takes fiscal backbone and voters who reward principle over subsidies. But there’s a payoff: predictable liberty draws builders, families, and entrepreneurs. When a state cuts red tape and honors constitutional limits, commerce expands, communities strengthen, and economies rise on organic growth rather than federal drip feeds. If you want clear steps, you’ll find them here: understand the Tenth Amendment as a tool, push for state laws of noncooperation, read Federalist 45 and 46, and support candidates who will treat the Constitution as a binding compact. No new amendment required—just the will to follow the one we already have. If this conversation sharpened your thinking, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review with the one federal policy you think your state should stop enforcing first. Support the show https://www.jacksonfamilyministry.com https://bobslone.com/home/podcast-production/