Hi, I'm Holly and I'm Hailey. Welcome to Mountain Mysteries Tales from Appalachia. Oh, tickety tickety tickety. I know, okay, I turned it off.
Thanks. We're good though. Oh my god, they're okay. Hello.
Hello. Hailey. Holly. Sorry, I'm trying to maneuver my body and my microphone and I do worry about you a lot.
You should. Yeah. Well, I decided something. But you decided?
I want a bidet. Yes. So somebody I know has one and apparently it changes your life. Yeah, I've heard.
I need this. I do as well. I need this to change my life. We, um, Mark, I wasn't.
I talked about getting one. So I've been pricing them and looking at that. Yeah. I can buy it on the Amazon for relatively cheap.
Right. And I just have to figure out how to, you know, hook it up and all that, which kind of seems complex to me, but I don't think it is. I think I'm making it more. Right.
Like I think I think you could do it. I think I could hire somebody to do it. Anyway, but no, I feel like I need this. Yeah.
I'm in to it. I feel it would be very European of me. Very European. Yeah.
So when European, there you go. Or mostly other things. How about I said, do you use it for me? I mean, you could.
Yeah. I mean, I have to turn around. But yeah, I don't know. It might get the whole I don't.
I haven't. Okay. So I haven't delved in, delved, dived, dove, dove, maybe. Okay.
Sure. Anyway, I haven't researched all the facets of it, mostly just the price of it. But, you know, I think it'd be great. I'm into it.
Me too. I think it'd be great. Listen, I will test it out. Yeah.
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Yeah. We better rework this. Yeah. I don't think so pick yourself up a day.
Today. Yeah. That's pretty good for improv. That's not too bad.
That's a magic we can do with the script. Oh my gosh. Really? It's limitless.
Right. It would be great. So, I mean, once we start getting our like, you know, tushy cleaner, yeah, it can just go on and on. Yeah.
Pretty soon we'll be, you know, advertising those little things that clean the toilet, you know, the stuff on the side. Yes. I recently bought one of those. I like it.
I don't know that it does the best job. It's okay. Yeah. I will say your bathroom always smells like bleachy fresh, like clean.
Good. Yes. I'm glad. Thank you for cleaning your bathroom.
You're welcome. Yes. So, here's what I'm going to say. I don't care if people, you know, don't have like the cleanest house or whatever, but if you don't keep your bathroom clean and I'm a little bit about the kitchen too, like your kitchen in your bathroom, like if you have like a million dirty dishes in your sink, like there's bugs lying around it.
That's just, I can't do that. No, no, no, no. My kitchen right now is cluttered, but my dishes are clean. That's the thing though.
Clutter is different than like, like I got the spices set out on the counter and there's like some clean dishes that need to go into a cabinet, but my dishes are clean. Yes. And there's no like food. Yes.
See that's, yeah. Like, no, I can't handle the dirty dishes and gross. I just know, and in the bathroom too, like I, those are the things that I prioritize in my house. I try to keep the whole house clean, but good luck Chuck.
But yes, definitely the bathroom in the kitchen, which is the areas that most people are in, you know, so much. Yeah. I have to keep my bedroom pretty clean. You have a lot of people in there?
Yeah, pretty regularly. It's party in there. No, I just moved from the hotel. Oh, yeah.
Back alley. Oh, back alley, the super eight. Yeah. Now we're just in the bedroom in my home.
Just there. I don't know if I would bring that like, you know, I don't know. I just don't, I don't know. I just don't, and really it's more like, I don't like having a lot of clothes on the floor.
I don't like any clothes on the floor. Because I'm pretty, well, I'm pretty bad about like, I'll come home from work and change into something comfortable. And I just, or like when I go to bed, because if I've put on like comfy clothes when I come home, I'm like, oh, I've got another wear in these at least. Like they're not ready to go into the wash.
Right. And then they just end up in a pile somewhere until I inevitably put them in the laundry basket when I do laundry. So I just need to put them in the laundry basket originally. Yeah.
My law, I will say my laundry basket right now is overflowing. Like I have got to do laundry. I did a ton of laundry yesterday, but it wasn't like clothes laundry. Like I did the bed, like sheets and blankets, and then I did the couch coverage and everything.
Like I have a dog a bath yesterday. So that's when I do all of it because there's no point. So I let the dog on the furniture. So there's no point in washing it if the dog's dirty.
Makes sense. I think the dog's gross. Dog shampoo. Dog shampoo can never ties that.
We can't. I use the hyperallergenic bursa bees dog shampoo. Really? Does it smell good?
Does not smell like anything. But my dog's a bit of a weirdo and has weird skin and weird, like she's on allergen medicine. That's more expensive than any medicine I take. So can't you hear that?
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Yes, I don't have any pet, but who cares? Right. I can advertise that. You come to my home and see my pet.
I pet splurral. I was like, look at the pets. Well, I mean, there's there's a cat, the dog, and then I have the other cat that's in a box on the mantle. That's true.
Her ashes. Yeah. Sweet scalp. Sweet scalp.
Sweet scalp. She's scared the crap out of it. Yeah, she's a good cat. She has some weird cancer.
This real sad. But now she's in a box on my mantle. I got my cat in a box. She's in a box.
I got a little like, they did like her paw print on the paper and it's up there. They also took some of her hair and put it in like a little jar, which is like kind of cool, but kind of odd also. Got your hair in the jar. Yeah.
I mean, we can turn it into anything really. So yeah, the cats in the box on the mantle. With all the medical treatment that I attempted to give this cat for her to just die in the anyway, which was rude. Yeah.
What's kind of like all the cars you had that you invested so much money in. Yeah, and they died. And they died. rude.
So yeah, when I'm like, that box was like $4,000 with all of the medical treatment stuff that she had. Yeah. And then for her to just die. I'm like, dang, that box is going to be displayed.
That's what I was saying. We need to go into veterinary medicine. That's not a bad idea. I know.
And I was like, I was spending this much money on a cat, but I mean, she was a baby. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you're going to have them, you got to take care of them.
Like you got to do it. Exactly. But. And just think this whole conversation started with a day.
A day. Yeah. Well, tell me what you got for me today. A day.
So today's story is so needless and so sad. No, the story is to be heard. But I want to start out by giving my mom a shout out because she is the person who recommended the story. So if it sucks, just blame her.
So we were just having a lovely light heart conversation about cat cancer and bidets. And now you're about to ruin my life. I don't know if you're dead cat is what I would call an uplifting conversation. Right.
That was sad. Yeah. So I mean, it's on theme here now, since we migrated from my tushy to that. Yeah, that was that was our slow entry into this.
Oh, don't talk about my butt in slow entry. I mean, we don't want it fast. Like that feels dangerous. I don't want it at all.
That's all in out, not an end. Just saying. Oh my god. Okay.
Anyway, let's see. That's what he said. All right. Sorry.
Okay. We're headed to Masonville, New York, which is upstate New York. So population around 1200 people. So it's quite small.
It's the largest city near it is Buffalo, but that's three hours away. So yeah, it's kind of pretty rural area. Yeah. Our story begins on Wednesday, September 4th, 2024.
Oh, wow. Yes. Very recent. So it's at the home of the Garnier family, which consisted of Dad Drew, who was 32, Mom Samantha 29, and their two daughters Izzy, who's six and Adalina, who's nine.
Oh, that's pretty. I love that name of Adalina. Yeah. That's really pretty.
So Samantha, the mom was five months pregnant and had just found out that she was having her third girl. Do you have any like for yourself when you have children? Do you have any like, I want a girl first, a boy second, like any like, um, I mean, I think I want a girl like you down, but I think and I haven't, you know, talked to my partner about this, but I think, um, you know, we talked about having kids like when I get pregnant, I want to, I want to wait. Like I don't want to find out.
Yeah. I don't want to know. I want to wait until it pops out and find out then. I didn't know.
Um, oh yeah. I didn't know but I thought you did think you're gonna have a girl. I thought he was gonna be a girl. I was certain of it.
I had grown close. Yeah. I like, yeah. I really was prepared for a girl.
And I had bought a lot of stuff off of Facebook marketplace because I'm so about like, I'm not gonna go buy all this new stuff when there's things that are gently used that are much more costly. You know, so like, well, it's more cost effective and it's, you know, better for the environment. I agree. I never said so I had bought this crib off Facebook marketplace and about three months before he was born and the lady said, Oh, I have this extra, you know, crib bedding.
If you want it, I was like, Oh, free bedding sure. And it was from her son and it was like kind of boyish. And I was like, this is gonna be hard for my girl. You know, I had and I should have had an incline.
That's the first time that it's gonna be a boy. I was telling you something here. I was like, listen, so when he was born and he was a boy, I had to change my completeness. And I was like, wait, it's a boy.
Yeah. Well, I came to see you. I didn't know. Oh, I thought I told you.
I can't remember if you told me you're not. You may have told me. Because I was so shocked that people were like, really, I thought it was a girl. I thought that yeah, maybe you did tell me it was before I came up to see you.
Because it was also like COVID times too. It's right before like, yeah, before like I was shocking that I was able to actually go in. Yeah, that was before they got super strict. But I mean, I had a girl named picked out in my head.
I didn't know the name. Yeah, that was what was so bizarre. Like I came in and they're like, Oh, who are you here to see? And I like gave them your name and I said, you know, that's a baby.
She's a baby. She's a baby. I'm here for baby. I was like, baby, you know, that's a baby's name.
And I was like, Oh, these babies. I had no idea. I don't know. I don't know what she named the baby.
Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. Yes.
And so I was like, Oh, and here he is. He's not Evangeline. This is not Evangeline. It's not Evangeline.
But no, I think I want to be surprised. You know, I'm all about it. I used to and I was surprised. Yeah.
I'm kind of for the longest time I wasn't about being surprised. I was like, I think I want to know. I want to know. I want to know.
You know, but there's so little that like is worth being surprised over now, there's such an instant gratification. Yeah. You know, so yeah, I say go for it. Well, and I don't really have any.
I can see what girl like I don't really care about like the gendered like toys or clothing or anything like that. Like I don't care. You know, I would prefer to have more like neutral whatever anyway. Like obviously once I was a girl, I'm going to like get all really like right girly stuff.
But so you bought my son some cute outfits when he was first born. Yeah. One was a, um, St. Patrick's day.
It said lucky lads. It was so cute. So cute. And then you had one that was a, it wasn't a monkey.
What was it? A sloth. Yeah. This is sloth out.
And I have this whole video of when he was it was itty bitty. And you know, how newborns like about like flex their arms and like occasionally open their eyes. And so I have him on the the bobby. He had just eaten.
And so I have him sitting up on his bobby and I'm talking to him and I'm like, well, your dress is a sloth today. How do you feel about that? And he gets this like sour look on his face. I'm like, oh no.
Do you want to unpack that emotional baggage? So cute. Like the therapy is a new born. Listen, he told, so he goes to OT.
Yeah. And she told him like, you know, oh, I don't like it. Get a toy out of the toy room. You know, I want to do some activity first.
And he said, oh, but I need it. He said, if I get upset, it helps me to calm down. And she was like, okay, you can take it. And she was like, he totally suckered me.
And I was like, that's a therapist son right there. Absolutely. Good coping skills. Anyway, so Samantha's five months pregnant just found out she's having her third girl.
And you know, obviously she's excited about it. Deal. Come on, Charlie has all this stuff. See, that's how I think your hair like, well, that's easy.
Yeah. I mean, I, I'm pretty old. So I probably won't have any more babies. But I will say that if I had another boy, that's just so easy.
Yeah. Even though like deep down, I would love to have a girl, you know, but my mom thought my brother was going to be a girl, like convinced that he was a girl. And then she wanted another girl. I think because I was a very difficult.
Oh, yeah. I mean, I was difficult as a baby, but she wanted another girl. I don't know why because I was not easy. You know, I don't know.
There's something about the mother daughter relationship. I think it's pretty cool. I could see you having two girls. I think I want girls.
Yeah, I don't see. I think Mark was to be a great girl to. I think you would too. I think you would too.
I never foresaw myself as a boy mom. And now that I have a boy, I'm the complete boy. You're totally a boy mom. Which is hilarious because I'm the girliest girl.
Like nails, I'm hair, I'm makeup. I'm like, I'm done today. I look homeless. You know, and yet I'm the one on that baseball field.
I'll be like, yeah, yeah, you know, like in karate class. Yes. And he'll be in karate and he was like, I really hope those mean girls don't show up today. And I'm like the mean girls.
And he was like, yeah, they just punched so hard. And it's so funny because, we always teach our kids. We want to be gentle and we don't want to be each other. So then he's like sparring and he's like, that girl, that girl, that you really are.
And I'm like, you get in there. You get her. I was like, but not like, respectfully. Yeah.
One time, these girls are tiny one, like, got him in the chest and he says, oh, she got me in the book. And he's about to say boo. And he turns and looks at me and edits himself and says, the chest. And then one time she got him like on the leg and he starts yelling and saying that his knee is broken.
Oh, you broke my knee. She didn't. He's very, I think I should get him into theater. He is his mother son.
Okay. So back to our story. Sorry. It is 11 29 p.m.
When local police receive a call, and it's not clear from whom, but it's regarding a domestic disturbance at the Garnier home. Okay. So when police arrived to the house on Huck Road, drew the dad, opens the door, and they find Samantha and her two daughters in their beds covered in blood. Oh my gosh.
They each had multiple stab wounds, but all three or so alive. Okay. EMS came to the scene to assess and Samantha and her daughters were airlifted to several different hospitals. Okay.
The other daughter, so the one daughter had some injuries that were serious and the, I think it was older daughters were even more serious. Yeah. So drew was arrested at the scene after admitting to stabbing his wife and children. Oh my God.
Yeah. But police did have to take him to a local hospital because he also had some cuts and some injuries. You know, so they wanted to sort of make sure he was okay first before they took him in. So as drew was being assessed at the hospital, police learned that Samantha did not survive.
She had died once she arrived at the hospital. So drew's daughters were in serious but stable condition and doctors believe they would end up making a full recovery. So that's good. Upon drew's release from the hospital, he was arrested and charged with an A1 felony murder and two counts of attempted murder.
Yeah. The real question was why? Yeah. Why did Drew want to kill his family?
None of this, did he just snap? He had like a mental break. Is there an argument? So drew had made no bones about the fact that he wanted to have a boy and he was sure kind of like I was sure that my son would be a girl.
He was pretty sure that this baby was the boy that he had been waiting for. He was not pleased after the ultrasound when they discovered that the baby was a girl. Samantha on the other hand was thrilled but saddened you know that her husband really wasn't on board with the news but like most things like you just assume, okay, it's a shock at first. Like you got to kind of sit with it.
He'll adjust like once you see your baby girl and hold her like you're gonna love her whole thing. Yeah. Well, I mean if you're choosing to have another kid, you got to be a bit shot. Pretty much.
You know it's gonna be one or the other. Yeah, you got to be okay with either one. Right. If you're not then you probably don't need that kid.
I agree. Yeah. I agree. And realistically it's not even the gender.
It's the child. Yeah. You know, like how can you not hold your baby and just like melt? Right.
You know. So unfortunately for Drew, this wasn't the case. So on that night, September 4th, he grew more angry at the thought of having another girl. Now if this man knew anything about biology, it's actually the males who determined the gender of a baby.
Right. So this is because males can contribute both X and Y chromosomes to the Z goat. So whereas females only contribute in X chromosome. Right.
So basically female, you know, comes into the game with her X chromosome and it's a toss up for the male. What you're gonna get? Are you gonna get two Xs, which is a female child? Are you gonna get an X and a Y, which is a male child?
Right. So in this scenario, he's throwing out Xs like nobody's business. And I'm using the finger spelling for X. Haley and I used to sign to each other all the time.
That was fun. Yeah. I thought we could get away with stuff. This has been your science minute.
Brought to you by a grant from the Holly and Haley Foundation. Wow. Yeah. That doesn't exist.
Wow. Wouldn't that be fun? It's a grand total of the three cents I found in my body. I might have a penny and so four cents.
Four cents. The penny's gonna be retired soon. I saw that. Yes.
We'll come back to that. Well, yeah, we'll actually have a circle back to that. All right. So Drew either didn't know the science back.
He didn't hear about the grant from the Holly and Haley Foundation. Yeah. He was so angry at his wife for giving him a third girl that he took a knife and stabbed her multiple times, hoping to kill her and the unborn baby. That's insane.
So after stabbing his wife, he moved to his children's bedrooms where he stabbed both of them. And I don't really know, like this moment doesn't make sense to me. So he wants to kill his wife for having another girl, but then he stabs his daughter. So did he stab them all because he didn't want to be a parent to like any girls?
Did he stab the kids because they saw what he did to the mom? Right. Did he like panic? I really, I don't know.
I don't know what the answer is. And I'm going to be honest, in all the things I read in research of this, there was nothing super clear. I mean, have you been like abusive to the girls in the past? Not from what I read.
No, it was almost like he had a psychotic break. Yeah. It's kind of a little bit. So while Drew is being arraigned, Samantha's family comes from other states to take care of the children who are being released from the hospital.
Samantha's father Gregory ends up adopting the two girls and steps in as a father to them. That's pretty fast. I've never seen an adoption go like that fast. I mean, I wonder if maybe they had it in their, like, if they had done a will or something because I know my parents when my brother and I were younger, if something happened to them, we would have gone to my aunt.
Gotcha. And like, we knew that and like, there's written in a thing that said if something happened to them, we would go live with her or she would have custody of us. Right. So I wonder if maybe it was something like that because I figured that probably wouldn't take very long.
Like, right. You probably just admit that certificate. That's true. And I mean, I guess, since he's, you know, the one who murdered, they probably terminated his rights.
I would assume yeah. Although, I mean, court systems usually don't work that quickly. So I don't know. Maybe it's like in the process of adopting maybe it's adopted.
So I don't, maybe that was just the wording that they use versus a legal term. Right. I don't want to get stuck on it, but just throwing it. So Drew enters a guilty plea and he's charged with first degree manslaughter because he's like plea bargaining here.
Gotcha. So he's plea bargaining to first degree manslaughter along with two counts of first degree assault. So all of the like capital murder, everything else has been leveled down because he's saying, Hey, I did it. I'm going to plea bargain.
And it just is interesting that plea bargains even on the table here. Right. I mean, you've got to do right. Like, which also makes it seem like there's there's something going on mental health wise, right?
That could let you do a. Yeah, maybe they were like, Hey, if you do this and not try to do the insanity route. Maybe I don't know if that's weird. So there's only one victim impact statement.
And it was given by Samantha's father Gregory in his statement, he insisted that Drew wanted a boy. And this is why the crimes occurred. He also stated that he had adopted his granddaughters and that he was their father. He said, quote, I will protect them.
Yeah, prosecutors didn't want to agree to the plea deal. But they knew if they proceeded with a trial that the two girls would most likely have to testify. And the prosecution team just felt like the kids had been through too much. And they just decided, yeah, kind of against their better judgment.
Like, you know, we would love to see him yet his day in the court of law and be convicted of, you know, these higher level crimes, which could make him eligible for the death penalty. Right. However, you know, for the sake of the kids, they just, well, then you have to think about the psychological aspect of that for those kids later, like, you know, they're the ones their testimony was what sealed the deal for their father's death. Right.
You know, yes. And then they're living with that. And then that's complicated. Right.
As well. So yeah, I would not want to put a child in that situation. We're talking about a six and nine year old. We're not talking about a 17 year old.
I think that'd be very different. Yeah. How confused would you be? You went from having your mom and as soon to be baby sister.
And now like everybody's gone, dad's gone, mom's gone, you know, you're doing like these like horrific injuries. Absolutely. Which, and we don't know, you know, what are the long term effects of their injuries as well. So, oh, it's so sad.
But in May of 2025, so just recently, Drew was given 30 years in prison to be followed by 15 years of supervised release. So basically 45 years, making him 78 years old when his parole ends. The fact that he's able to get out. I don't like that.
I don't like that. I don't like that. So will he be eligible for parole after 30 years? Yes.
So they could be called out. I can say, we don't approve of the parole. Right. Right.
Maybe. Yeah. I just don't like it. He will not be allowed to see his daughters.
Right. Until 2056. So 31 years. Yeah.
Well, I think is, I mean, I mean, I guess once I turn 18, maybe then they could make the choice to see him. Yes. But he can't reach out to them. That is correct.
And that is something I wanted to mention here that it said the girls are allowed to petition the court to change that order if they wish to speak to their father any time earlier than 2056. Yeah. So yeah, maybe you turn 18, they decide, I want to talk, I want to find out why he did this. Like I want to meet face to face and let him see, you know, how he altered the course of our life.
Right. I don't know. Yeah. And you always think, you know, you've got two sisters, they could have two very different opinions.
Yeah. You know, one could be, you know, very much like I'm battling anything to do with this person and one might, you know, feel differently. Yeah. So you just never know.
Yeah. I will say that Drew was not the first husband to kill his pregnant wife and children. I mean, there is that 2018 story of Chris Watts who killed his wife who's pregnant with their child. Yeah.
You know, he was actually having an affair. So that case was slightly different, but still he strangled and killed her. He killed his children. It's just so sad.
Like I don't understand these men. So this family and I later, so you don't want to be a dad. Cool. Right.
You don't want to be with your family anymore. Fine. Go on. Like go away.
Yeah. But to just kill your family, I mean, I don't know, they would rather do that than have, you know, people go like, Oh, man, he left his family. Yeah, like who cares? Like just leave, right?
Live your life. But see, I also wonder sometimes, is it a money thing? Right. Where they're scared, they're gonna have to pay child support and all these other, I don't know.
But I just say like, if you are in a situation, men or women, where you are displeased with your life and your family, maybe just leave, just leave, you don't commit murder, don't commit murder, just leave, it's not good. No, it's not. And you will be judged much more harshly for murdering your family. Yeah.
Just walked away. Yeah. That's pretty wild. That's my story.
I was so fascinated by it, but there are so very little that has kind of come out largely because there's no trial transcript because there was a trial. Yeah. Yeah. So I really do wonder this leans to me like some kind of mental health crisis.
Right. But again, I have no idea. That's crazy. Yeah.
So he better give Marquise the baby he wants or else. Are you my murder me? Yeah. No, I think I'm largely the murder him.
I agree. I get that's a murder me. That's accurate. He does snore.
So it's highly likely that Haley will murder him. Yeah. Yeah. It's true.
Let's get that boy CPAP. Yeah. Yeah. Probably.
Oh, it's so cute. You guys can have like matching CPAPs when they'll be adorable. My parents are matching CPAPs. That's really cute.
That's love. It has his and hers. That's sweet. That's cute.
I know. Okay. Well, that was fun. That was very fun.
No, that was awful. Not fun at all. What? Oh, the story is horrible.
The bidet sounds great. Yeah, the bidet sounds wonderful. But that whole, I mean, Callie, that was rough. I don't come here to give you Jolly.
That's true. Happy stories. I come here to give you grit. That's true.
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That's nice. Absolutely. And I'm going to get a shout out to Butte Montana. I feel like I did that.
We did that recently. But you know what? You know, you're going to get a shout out again. You're showing up again.
And that says something about you. That's good. Yeah. Yeah.
Nice. All right. Well, maybe next time I'll have a bidet. Oh, yeah.
Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed.