Nathan's Journey from Infrared to Real Sauna.

Nathan's Journey from Infrared to Real Sauna. A candid journey from infrared hype to authentic Finnish sauna, highlighting why real heat, löyly, and hot–cold contrast are so compelling. We discuss practice over marketing—ventilation, simple rituals, and family-friendly routines that deliver presence and stress relief. And we learn about Nathan's eye toward a future wood-fired sauna.PODCAST LINKShttps://www.theupperbench.comhttps://www.instagram.com/upper.bench.podcast/https://www.facebook.com/theupperbenchCONTENTS00:00 Introduction and how Risto and Nathan became friends 03:56 Nathan's first hot cold experiences 05:24 Selecting and buying and infrared "sauna"07:45 Scientology and niacin14:03 Experience with his IR16:03 Getting a real sauna17:59 Stress relief and mental health benefits20:23 Saunaing with a young child 25:24 Nathan's sauna practice37:58 Why IR doesn't cut it39:00 The aim of sauna: sweat or something more? 42:35 Another lackluster IR experience46:38 How financial motivations skew sauna opinions 50:36 Any plans for a wood-burning sauna?