National Police Association Podcast with Guest, Dave Case, 30+ Years LEO, Author, Prof, Writer, Speaker

Sergeant Betsy Brantner Smith sits down with Commander Dave Case—cop, author, and lifelong Midwesterner—to unpack four decades of frontline experience. From patrolling in the 1980s crack era to policing the vertical combat zone of Cabrini‑Green, Case explains how multigenerational gangs, heroin‑to‑fentanyl trafficking, and politicized prosecution reshaped public safety in America’s third‑largest city. He also reveals how those hard‑earned street lessons power his crime novels Out of Cabrini and the forthcoming sequel Chicago Justice.Quotable Moments“For every gun offender you lock up, three guys want to take his place.”“I have never been in a ‘newsworthy’ incident the media reported accurately—ever.”