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NATO's future as Trump threatens to withdrawal | Talking Foreign Policy

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At the height of the U.S. war with Iran, NATO allies declined to allow the U.S. to use air bases within their territory to launch attacks on Iran, they refused to let U.S. bombers overfly their territory, and they refused to commit their forces to helping the U.S. patrol the beleaguered Strait of Hormuz. In response, President Trump said he was considering withdrawing the United States from the 75-year-old defense alliance – something he has been talking about for years. Monday on the "Sound of Ideas," we bring you another installment of the series "Talking Foreign Policy," which is produced in conjunction with Case Western Reserve University. In this episode, a panel of experts discusses the role NATO currently plays as a global defense alliance, as conflicts continue in Iran as well as between Russia and Ukraine. Guests: - Michael Scharf, President, American Branch of the International Law Association; Former Dean, Case Western Reserve University School of Law - John Bellinger, Legal Advisor, National Security Council & U.S. Department of State - Sandy Hodgkinson, Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense; Retired, U.S. Navy Captain - Paul Williams, Ph.D., President, Public International Law & Policy Group - Milena Sterio, Distinguished University Professor, Cleveland State University College of Law; Managing Director, Public International Law & Policy Group

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