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EPISODE · Oct 29, 2025 · 47 MIN

Navigating Your "Second Half of Life": FIRE vs. FILE and Accessing Your Money Early, Ep 162

from Childfree Life by Design · host Dr. Jay Zigmont, CFP® & Bri Conn

Are you tired of the traditional work-and-retire-at-65 plan? This episode is for you. We're diving into the concepts of FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) and FILE (Financial Independence, Live Early), and exploring how you can break free from the traditional script. Dr. Jay and Bri challenge the idea that retirement is an "on/off switch" and introduce the "dimmer switch" approach of FILE, which allows you to design a life you love now, rather than waiting for a distant retirement.Timestamps🔹 0:48 - When can I retire vs. do you want to retire?🔹 2:28 - Are you a FIRE or FILE person?🔹 3:33 - Dr. Jay's "mental chew toy"🔹 5:39 - The importance of planning for what you’ll do with your time🔹 6:40 - The "Purpose Code" and living with lowercase "p" purpose🔹 11:53 - The difficulty of giving up a specific career path🔹 14:49 - Overcoming self-limiting beliefs🔹 15:49 - Why age is the least important factor in retirement🔹 18:24 - The debate: Are you ready to make a change?🔹 19:13 - What brings you joy?🔹 25:23 - Accessing your retirement money before 59½🔹 28:37 - The rule of 55🔹 32:17 - The rule of 72t, or SEPP🔹 34:05 - Accessing Roth IRA contributions penalty-free🔹 35:48 - Inherited IRAs🔹 37:53 - 401k loans: The good, the bad, and the ugly🔹 45:36 - Health insurance options for early retireesMentioned in this episode:🔹 Andy & Libbi Financial Planning Sessions1️⃣ https://www.buzzsprout.com/2002436/episodes/16367564 2️⃣ https://www.buzzsprout.com/2002436/episodes/16367713 3️⃣ https://www.buzzsprout.com/2002436/episodes/16368047 4️⃣ https://www.buzzsprout.com/2002436/episodes/16962286 5️⃣ https://www.buzzsprout.com/2002436/episodes/17411168 🔹 Finding Purpose Beyond Financial Independence with Doc G, Ep 120 https://www.buzzsprout.com/2002436/episodes/16367437 🔹 The Purpose Code by Jordan Grummet, MD https://jordangrumet.com/books/Connect with Us:Ready to work on building better financial habits? Connect with our financial planning team at childfreewealth.com or learn more about estate planning at childfreetrust.com.Follow Childfree Life by Design on your favorite podcast platform and join the conversation on social media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/childfreeinsightsFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChildfreeInsights/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/childfreeinsightsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChildfreeInsightsDisclaimer: This podcast is for educational & entertainment purposes. Please consult your advisor before implementing any ideas heard on this podcast.

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Are you tired of the traditional work-and-retire-at-65 plan? This episode is for you. We're diving into the concepts of FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) and FILE (Financial Independence, Live Early), and exploring how you can break free from the traditional script. Dr. Jay and Bri challenge the idea that retirement is an "on/off switch" and introduce the "dimmer switch" approach of FILE, which allows you to design a life you love now, rather than waiting for a distant retirement. T...

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