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We have some interesting ones. So let's get into the actual playoffs. playoffs, Liu, favorite time of year for you all to know, NBA playoffs to you, you can ask about finally important. However, we do have breaking news, I'm surprised I don't even make it here.

I mean, we could even have that mixture on talk about it. Breaking real quick NFL breaking news. No, it's big news. Everybody was talking about even brand new.

Jayla Hertz, the Philadelphia Eagles has agreed to an extension with the Philadelphia Eagles. Five years overall valued $255 million. Fully guaranteed money is only $179, which is about. Which I think is about $10 million less than what Kyle Murray got in fully guarantees.

But it was more. Yeah, no, it's more and it's also the highest per year. He's been at the highest per year, but I saw that just 10, like the fully guarantees is less than, he's been less than Watson and Murray. Well, he's been less than Watson and Murray.

Yeah, I'm just saying, but Murray was on that list too. Like he's been like $10 million less. None of us is a great deal for him especially. And who is the black woman who was working with what's for Clark Schwartz?

I mean, I mean, get her name right. Definitely a black woman. His whole team is black woman. Oh, I'll shout out to Jayla Hertz.

Yeah, overall reactions to that new deal. They're pretty fucked up. I know you think they did. I love it.

Paying all the money, locking them up for as long as y'all can. So we got a clear path to win the division. Nicole Lynn. Nicole Lynn, shout out to Nicole Lynn.

I do want to wreck the deal with great. That's good for Jayla Hertz. As a Cowboys fan, it's still not here at all. Still got to make me believe another season.

Again, without having the best possible team around him. I want to see what Jayla Hertz can do. You sound very delusional just like he does about his mix. Because look, once and last time y'all even been Super Bowl.

They signed about us. This is about Jayla Hertz. All right. He's the one division.

He won the division. He went to the Super Bowl. And now he got paid because he's better than your quarterback. He should have got paid and he's not better than that.

I'll tell him the same level. I'll give him that. I mean, that can't prove that he's some hell of an asset either. I will put them on the same level.

And still like if that doesn't perform this upcoming year, I would prefer he be gone. You said that last season. Yeah, I say that. I said he was gone up before him.

I thought he would. But he didn't make a break. This year's make a break. Last season wasn't make a break.

This season is make a break. Yes, it was just to make. Jayla had the best team in the league last year. I'll say that.

So he had the best team in the league. He did what he was supposed to do with him. What happens when he don't have the best team in the league? I want to see that.

And I'm not scared of what happens when he don't have the best team in the league. I think that as long as Jayla Hertz is a problem in the run game, he's going to be better than your quarterback. I mean, that's OK. And we've also seen him.

I've seen less record of back swing divisions. Like the best quarterback going to always win a division. It does not always. We're not in the always.

I'm willing to risk it if it's Jayla Hertz. If you're telling me that Jayla Hertz is the best quarterback in the division, I'll take my chances every year. Every year. It depends on who you're going to be.

Because Danny Dimes, I'm questioning that. I'll take my chances. What are your thoughts on the deal? It feels a good deal.

It feels a good deal. Look, it's not much speculation. At the end of the day, if you're dynamic, if you have made, I'm just saying, I'm listening. It's a good deal.

It's a good deal. If you're dynamic, you've had an impact on your squad. You have some hardware. And or you've made it to a Super Bowl.

You're going to get paid. You're just going to get paid. That's how the NFL works. The market always goes up.

The latest quarterback always gets the most. That's the market ain't even going up. It's been trying to stagger a little bit. We talk about the Marjax and only he don't know when they go up for it.

Exactly. And then you know, the Sean Jackson or the Sean Watson, it didn't set the new standard. Everybody's putting it as a one off. So you know, we saw the Kyler Murray deal.

We saw the Aaron Rodgers Rea. We're seeing these deals. Those are the deals that we got to count. Because look, in sales, you always take out your best and your worst.

Take out Lamar. Take out the Sean. What's everything in the middle? Everything in that middle?

It says, James, you get paid what he got paid. You agree, Kevin? I'm happy for the brother. He's come a long way.

I'm always here for quarterbacks to secure starting jobs, or the appearance of having starting jobs in the NFL. I'm happy that it was a black woman that did it. I'm happy that it was all women's teams that left negotiations. I'm talking about you're done with a bunch of white men and a bunch of all white men with money.

And probably a bunch of white people. And they're probably doing everything. So salute to him for putting his confidence in what we all know, that the women, they make it happen. So I appreciate all of that that he did.

I thought that was dope. And I think just it's the story from being benched to leaving, to going to Oklahoma, to doing that, to carving out a way for him to win a be successful in the NFL with talent around him. So yeah, I think that's dope. And at least for the next four years, we're going to see a black man on TV.

I think what's interesting about Jaylen is the pop culture appeal of him. The women love him. And women love Jaylen Hirst. Bruh, I didn't know until he started that little street they had.

I saw the shade room and posting them and shit. And I'd be like, oh, OK, he's got a fan base. He has a fan base. They luckily he would have black woman.

I'd have to throw his ass up. They love the way Jaylen Hirst. He could have a black team of women. They're like white women with a white woman.

And then you've got a black woman. So I think that now, and so that's smart because that fan base is definitely going to follow him below for this journey. I don't know what else in the Super Bowl. I found out like damn, I'm sure they have my wife.

They're like, yeah, women love him. I'm like damn, OK. They do. Yeah, bro.

They lose to me. Yeah, they fucking love it. Yeah, man. So that helps with commercialization.

Off the field money. And that's the other thing I thought was interesting as well about the girlfriend who finally I think they just got married or whatnot. She had a lot of shit. That shit up quick.

They bet how she put it or he put it or they put it. It's been off and on since college. So I guess once that shit. No, it was that it was that it was that it was that it was that it was that it was on it.

It's on it's on. Good for him. I'm with Spike. I think there's the football part of it.

But I think just kind of sticking to the business out of this. It's great. It could very well be another Joe Flacko. Shout out to Jordan Triplett.

He said what's up to us. But I don't mind the deal at all. I'm well, maybe have issues with the deal is the fact of the car. Like these owners are not trying to pay these niggas as much.

Like luckily he was able to get the no trade clause in there. But the fact I feel like he's guaranteed money is like it's hitting a cap like we ain't trying to go over 180 or even get closer to one of them. There's that rumor. Unless it's Joe Barro always just heard.

They're going to get it. I believe they will. But there's a reason why they're trying to keep it. I don't understand why they're trying to keep it under two 30.

That's definitely what they're trying to do. They're trying to change the market. But the market is getting like you just only the more Jackson is trying to change it. Like a Hurts guy 179.

So Burrow or Hurts or Herbert's going to get at least what 185 190. Maybe two. Because Tyler's I'm Joe Barro. You can't give me 185.

That's what I'm saying. So hell no. I need 200. Because they both lost in this world.

No, no, no, no, he's better. I'm just saying. My agent going in there talking about having to go straight into dealing. I seen Jay and hers got 180.

I need 200. I guess that's what I'm going to do. Yeah. Herbert should be a 195.

You're going to plus. Hold on. Two plus go. I need to keep Higgins around.

I'm open. I'm open. I'm open. I'm going to go.

A billion dollar contract. Makes it out of here. What's outside the reporter like the reporter he came out of. Makes it out of the reporter.

I already know that but makes it the fucker off the field. So that's why anybody else. I'm hoping we draft the backup from Texas behind who's behind. Be John Robinson.

I'm hoping we get him in the first round. The first round. But no, I just think that we're going to get to 230 anyway. That's why I don't understand what the owners were doing.

We're getting to that number anyway. Yeah, if you Joe Burro just heard, and I think it speaks a lot to me. I heard about him as heard. I'm not saying he goes, but he's a different face in the franchise in the Lord Jackson.

He's got more connections. This thing about the Lord Jackson having an agent is continuing to really ugly. Hey, like, he would be in line for at least 200 plus just like we talking about the Lord and Burro and Herbert. If you were a person, even it was harsh representation, I feel like they would have got Jackson at least close to what he was looking for and he had a deal by now.

Close because they definitely would have talked to me. This how this goes. I'll say lower years. I'll say, well, did you hear that they offered a 133 for three guaranteed?

That's less than Tyler. No, it's not per year. What's that per year? Overall guaranteed is less than Tyler.

But what is he making per year? No, that's also a very important. He's not way more than Tyler Murray and you're telling me how to get five a year. One, 33 for three years is like 45 years.

Yeah, that's not enough. That's not enough. Not for MVP. Guarantee 45 a year for three years?

Yeah, that's going down in the market. See, that's my issue is we're going down in the market. You said the market goes higher. It hasn't.

No, numbers tell stories and sometimes you got to look at numbers a different way. So you can look at the overall or I can look at per year is very important. But that's the great point. I think the back and forth to what happened about this is he would have an agent to tell him, like, look, bro, you got to give up something.

You can't have everything in negotiations. So just like you're saying, it may not be as much as you won't per year, but you're taking less years. I can renegotiate it three years. An agent has a related information.

He's getting the information. But it doesn't seem like it's worth it. For me, it was like for me, Lamar said, I won't three years, 155. That's more than where Aaron Rodgers is getting paid, but it's not close to the 230.

You know what I'm saying? Fully guaranteed deal, three years, 155. I've got enough for this organization. I never had MVP.

And I'm outside of me. I ain't winning no playoff games. So do that. But at this point, I don't know where to negotiate.

But overall, going back to Jalen Hurts, glad he got the deal done. I don't know what this means about where our expectations are for him going into this upcoming season, but he has to be a top two, three quarterback in the NFC. He has an Otray clause. Look, I think in the NFC, I don't know where to go.

In the NFC, he's got it. Hurts is the top two, three quarterback in the NFC. Who's better than him? Aaron Rodgers, I still take it.

Aaron Rodgers is going to see the NFC. He's going to see the NFC, but technically. Bro, we don't know where he going. Even if it was technically, I would say he's still, it's Aaron Rodgers and him.

That's what I'm saying. You can't name me three quarterbacks in the NFC right now, better than J. Hart's. Talk about the two other teams.

I am. Might be right. Because Brock Perti already came out and said, I may not even be able to come back next season. And that's it for him.

We bought a lot of the same. Yeah, he's done. And I'm a fucking professional. Still, still, and that was the second eight months ago.

He still ain't proved. Yeah, that's the crazy thing about team wise. That's the second best team in NFC the 49ers. So if they're out, it's just the Eagles and who else?

Packers is in disarray because if you don't got to corner if you got two quarterbacks, you ain't got no quarterback. I think Jordan Logan will be like, he's not better to J. Guys not better than us. Not better than us.

Not better than us. Not better? Amazon is not better. Her cousin is not better.

Jerry golf is not better. We ever in Tampa Bay, not better. That whole NFC South is not better. Here on the West Angeles.

You got it like. You know what I mean? Not like who if I use the best quarterback in NFC and it may be easily You against that even as much as I hate to say it, but I think it speaks to the lack of talent. Yeah It's I think Disappoint he disappoints ever sees you going to some time I'm like a disappointment.

Yeah, no But have you heard the rumors of stuff on days one ago to the Giants because of they I don't I don't stuff on this ones get the fuck about it. Buffa. That's crazy. No.

No, he wants to follow day bomb He fucks with a ball to heart and he had a whole season where he said josh out they shit without they Can see him want to go to New York. That's a big of market. I'm already in New York I'm just receiving the league. I think he gets that far big Now your Jones gonna run the ball down field to it To the NBA We can talk about the series The first thing I wanted to talk about thank you for reminding me is I call this a banner under a series We could care less about and that's the Atlanta versus Boston Brooklyn versus Philly and Minnesota versus Denver What's fine?

Do we need to say anything about those series? Denver Minnesota is different. I mean briefly I don't want her to say something at least a knowledge What we already know who's only in we already know I'll say this I'll be curious I'll be curious game to tell me what I need Oh, what series Atlanta Boston I Blow that team up or at least get rid of cat or if I want anything else I want to get out of it I think that's what that series has in question for us like a Minnesota gets well If I if I want anything else I want out of time. They're not gonna get swept.

I think of All those series I mentioned I'm excuse me brotha definitely I Those are all sweet all of those are all see them when I think you see either one of them I think we'll get one. I think the biggest problem We already mentioned cat, but it's just it's just it's just he can't do what he was doing with cat without like go barrier Is useless, but at least go bare with not interfere. So what do you think they would give her go bare? They traded him out nothing to like to sing around pigs if that first Just the first though a team desperate for a defender rebound or maybe but I think go bears value has diminished I think that punch is crazy thing is people thought he was the best player in all those jazzes and I was like Bro, I used I was said that and people went away like he's the best player in our team like who the fuck would think he's the best Defentions player on that team.

Thank you, but he not the best player And now you see it with with with Donovan Mitchell having a phenomenal year probably the first team all NBA And now they're busting the next ass right now to tie the series up. So yeah, I just I just want to see I know this is I just want to see and do something like he ain't been really doing shit I think that may have been you know coaching, you know because cats back So I want to I need to see like are you able and can you go to this next level that I think he has you got a lot of Yeah, so but I think there would be things that's gonna get in the way and they got to definitely get rid of some things to make it happen So I think they got to get rid of cat in order to Acquire the assets back that they sent away for go bear, but for the most part. Yeah, I mean, you know I think they should at least get one at least I'm hoping they not getting them all in the sweeps What was the other one I was all going to you said It was a little Boston Brooklyn Philly in Minnesota Denver all sweeps working Philly I got the that broke they're probably one of the deepest things they just devoid of one star like they have one guy that can take over This will be a problem for Philly. Yeah, that's the problem Like they just don't have the superstar.

Yeah, when I was watching that game It looked like their whole thing was we just gonna spread everybody out and just shoot three and then the three stop falling in the second half You know when everybody just standing around a perimeter we came Johnson We're gonna bridge the way out and you know Philly decided to take the game serious But they had to adjust the way Brooklyn was doing they were doubling and beat every time you got the ball Every time you got the ball down there and took the most second to get used to that because I don't think they thought they went Keep it up for the whole game and they did until parts in the fourth quarter But then they stop shot stop stop all that if that is the strategy. They're not going to win Yeah, no, but they can't win because they're devoid of town Isn't it crazy to think that Ben Simmons is on this team? Isn't it crazy that to think that the player like two or three years ago that generated the most open-look threes off of passing What that player should have been able to do with this team? Oh, I see where you going?

They're devoid of the superstar now Ben Simmons is a Susarmina superstar You know he's not gonna average 35, you know a game He makes work 35 or 30 in the game, you know say but for the most part is gonna be like 15 12 But he's gonna control the whole game and get all of these shooters easier in ideal world You're right you know Simmons would be there super sorry and it will work for them in an ideal where you're absolutely right But it's so crazy how far it's the worst contract in NBA. I think it's okay But again with Benson is I've said this for years now We knew what he was when he came out of high school at college to think that he was gonna change I think that Doc Rivers was gonna change him well I think we're just just what people were saying is like their game plan Would probably be way more effective if they have been a Simmons able to actually control he was a basketball player Yes, versus a personality if he was the best version of himself This would be a scary team maybe six games series. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah or sex crazy That is what that is what their miss what this game plans him or somebody like that that could do that That's a great like you need a focal point great teams or even you know One superstar team he would be like Draymond Green on this team on steroids 100% like what Draymond Green does for the Warriors He would be dead like that.

All right, it's crazy moving on Let's talk about Golden State Sacramento Like the fucking be a Kingsland in the chat like the fucking beans stop who lost out with you I know what that meant was about it. There's a lot of meaning to like the being I'm just going with the Sacramento There are more time you Blue are the Kings being overrated with their two in the Warriors. Yes. Yes, this exciting their home I won't believe it until they actually win a series go to say it's gonna go home When he's two games and then we'll know in game five if Sacramento is for going into the series You think the Sacramento Kings will be up to oh, yeah, they're number three see Play-offs don't start you ain't say shit like they also start to you lose at home I've never talked about the Kings or the Warriors.

I just thought that it would be a you know decent series But you can't dismiss the Warriors just because we don't know who they are but like they always say in every other playoff series It doesn't start until you lose at home. They did what they were supposed to do. You know, I got our contenders pretend is list What does this everybody said the Kings will pretend to do to myself? And The words and you know the words and everything else in a series yeah, I know it's like oh seven or so It's crazy.

I mean something to me, you know, you know The press conversation I know business You know the thing with dynasties they need to have new challenges you say this is just a new challenge for them Now I will say this though I've watched both of those games like beginning to end like cuz that was this series I wanted to watch because the advent of the area Fox, you know The Montes is nice. I like what they've been able to do not a fan of the head coach But you know what I could be objective and my brown has definitely shown me a lot Yeah, I haven't seen in the past The biggest takeaway that I have from both of those two both of those games was the Kings didn't get rattled down the stretch Fox up That's all I'd say so the others you could see that the moment is you know Not necessarily too big there still within it, but it's like oh shit It's the playoffs you can see it but with the area and you don't and that's why I would say the point guard is always the most Like lethal play on because it's the chess match he controls the chess match and you could turn it up What you need to and that's what you point guards do we're seeing the area and when the team needs them I'm gonna go get to three buckets real quick. Let me go put some pressure on the defense Let me collapse. Let me get a easy shot for guys.

You know what I'm saying and then the X factor for them his been his college teammate Was he the Bob when you look as a shooter when you don't touch rib and you do it with three times bro You and he hit that move where he was on it I think he's on three point on he got a for screen and stuff. He's a turnaround three and sleep credit all the time I'm like the game. Oh, yeah, I remember that game. Oh, right?

He was talking about it. My name is this Kentucky may have over the last 15 years the bet like if you draft a guard from Kentucky Oh, yeah, he's gonna be an awesome one of the star if you look at the list of guards over the last 15 years Kentucky has come out with It's amazing. That's a reason John. I got a job.

Mm-hmm. The second thing is for me Your right people the area in Fox has something to fucking prove this series and he wants he wants to prove it against these warriors Or whoever else was gonna meet him in the first round and I fucking love it because him So bonus and I also like Harrison Barnes in this series to underrated going against this war machine Here's a barn dunked on clay twice last game So for me the thing about this game is one obviously in other words are horrible on the road this year So doesn't I to me them being down old to isn't really that surprising but it's still surprising because it's there the brain and champs but This this King's team the Kings. Hey, they are fucking track team, bro I'm every time they have the oh they gotta steal I see dream I just stand there like I'm about to run up and down These things like Run and only one that runs on the words of stuff so he's in shape Run Andrew wiggles be running coming up in running a movie got a little table What's going on with that Andrew wiggens? I thought he was supposed to hate a little they tell it me big as so be Andrew wiggles get back She's gonna look different.

Yes. I see this nigga get missing game went in threes He get cooked by all these niggas he's supposed to guard. I'm just saying Well, I'm well, I think bump getting 30 a game his mind somewhere else man seems like look Who They go to go to stay when the game I think what's interesting about go to state what I see what that's why is Steve Kerr don't know the lineup that he really wants to go to See curl ready to go here. He's not over.

He's not over. Um, but he's going to a lot of different guys a lot of different lineups The lineup that I thought was most intriguing was when he had comminga and wiggens out there with Steph Clay and dream on And I feel that that line up That was like a game. I know they tend to do that so they can try to find a rhythm for the next one with cheese Oh You said the best line of that secret. Yeah was a comminga wiggens and the big three in a big three now They got to figure it out and if K by Loonie gets a file so it's a issue for them But I still like what I've seen because you know what in Sacramento You still haven't gotten the splash brothers flurry yet.

You think we're gonna see that ever Again, what was your last time you seen the splash brothers class in the finals last year? So not not in this playoffs. There's currently no Not in these two games. No, no, I'm not the out of the season.

What was that? They have a home they cooked they cooked on oh yeah Last week that's fine. Oh, what do you know for a fact people? What's their role record?

It's bad. Oh, and I don't know home team on the road team in the series So you're telling me that a They don't know what we're saying to me is that a championship team has a win one game on a road Yes, they can do it. They have to win one game period I can sweat that's what you say. How many games will take the kids?

Okay, I have way to do it to sleep it or make this about to be your words I'm just saying what did you say? I'm just saying if I won the first game and I won the second game at home That's halfway against what I just got went to work you're saying the words So you're thinking it's easy just going into the defendant I First up one of the first time in 17 years. No, I don't I'm saying that there the kings are positioned to sweep the Golden State words and say words are in any position to really right now to even Say they're competitive in the series. What are we talking about?

I will say that both of those games the Kings one were close Well, it's good of good of one either one of those games It's you know the second one that to come back the first one They you know the King shows them resolve I still put the Kings to win the series anyway But um, but you know those games were in the balance now can the Kings do that on the road themselves? We'll see but I think they can I think it's not when Fox Fox is out here But you said that yeah some approval. Yeah, and it's so scary as good as he is as great as he's been in the fourth quarter Because I saw they talk about doing a series nobody really talk about his profile isn't there yet. You gotta build it Right like he was to attend for three last night, but man like he was He's a peer point guard.

He's a thing can any pieces moments Pure point guards control the tempo he do and think about like who his counterpart is is go to stay at the fastest pace He knows when to slow it up when to push I love that about however Ken We've watched a lot of go to say basketball doing that in sports together Hmm we have not yet to see the barrage the barrage is coming and it typically happens at home when the crowd is in your favor Like look Jordan pool Jordan pool has yet to have a good game. Do you guys believe in Malik? Malik over Jordan pool right? Joining pool.

Hmm. You got paid The same as you got paid. I see a bunch Again, we still I see them at home if he was right like this is a Check if they went to games at home this series ends in Sacramento It depends on how they win them two games at home because Sacramento is not an experience team if they go in the go It's a loss if I go in the state and they get they socks knocked off two games in a row Who knows how they go respond when they go back. I don't think it's gonna happen.

I think the third game I can see them if they lost by 30 in both of these games I wouldn't be shot that's not a whole be shot It may be maybe the third game where where go to stay come out with a big and Sacramento just can't come back from it, but not two games already got the conspiracy theory of one of them being on AB ATV So that one's gonna be a blowout whichever one is gonna be my thing It's more about like right now who has the most pressure going to the game three go to state no Sacramento how does that come out of the most pressure going to get you just all you've done is one two games at home Has been terrible on the road all season you're expected to win these games No, you're not People that don't say five row or sweet. What do you talk about the better team? How do they look? They're more athletic they're faster They're worth it.

They're gonna throw the whole thing. Yeah, it was again I told y'all my word my issue with the word is this year is that as great as stuff is? I don't think he can carry them like it last year He's tried, but it's he's trying as hard as but the team ain't really and then dream I may give it suspended I thought play play hit but it's in the fourth quarter, but it still wasn't enough I think all them guys have comedy Fox is able to match curry and then you got monk who's out playing Jordan pool And then you got some bonus who's doing what he needs to do on the inside It's not Doing shit y'all keep trying to sell this motherfucker. He ain't doing shit I was wiggin's good.

They lost both games with that best line of moody ain't doing shit Better at home all the road players are gonna be better home and then once those two games are done again The pressure is still on the Kings because hey still got a lot you got to say Put money on the leak more than one more good game in this entire series Oh, no Is a is a streaky player on he's hot right now Hot goes going go go hot you say he would only have one more one more in that I don't know about that one bro If that I know he's streaky and I saw the streakiness in LA I wouldn't be shot You're gonna stay one the next four games straight y'all are tripping We'll see I wouldn't be see we'll see if they would have won that first game that first game told me a lot when they were up Up on the Kings will when the Kings came back and took their game that way this miss was what I was like Oh, okay, they they had the game and if he would make the shot this whole series of different any bit I'm up at with his home boy to bro. They think they back in college. You see them running off a lot of non-field This is a track team like young okay see current on one that he went up that much play on one of buses leg To try to Hold it is that's all niggas say to play I was not a track me though It's that's moving on to the next series in the state of California. We got Memphis and LA Um How likely would it be for the Lakers to make the Western Conference?

It's very possible because I mean Memphis is out at this point Yeah, Memphis Mike is swept. He's talking about Well, I haven't said yet. It's not broken. They have it the MRI came back clear.

Yeah, so he's good However, how he's talking his body language and his tone of voice is like I don't got it right now So if that's the case, it's a raffin voice, you know the fence out brain of Clark is out look they don't have enough for You know like skin guy. What's the name? Young and L be done Brooks. You know, I like you.

You know saying it's a branch Yeah, it's a branch You know and the comment that you had that you know, you rather play the Lakers because you didn't want to go home Yes, I say that. Yes, it's gonna be good for his legacy to put LeBron out in the first round. Yeah, that's not gonna happen and The Lakers Were and what was the stat that I saw that that really made a compelling argument? I want to say there there's a slowest pace team But it was something else too that I saw that I really like but either way the Lakers have a really good opportunity making the West Conference this year.

We don't know who the favorite. There's no real favorite the Lakers are hot right now They're playing good right Austin Reeves looks like the guy Was an ally worried off the bench. They got a dude ever it or something like that You know, I'm bad when he's but he just started at the four very very versatile team Anything that they play against they're gonna have bodies to throw whoever they need to and then you have LeBron and AD and D Low now, so they can make it It's a sweet once I see John Yeah, it's sweet down the lane getting hurt again the same way you did last year's like it's sweet Yeah, yeah, then what's it done? Yeah, when I saw him.

I don't know. I think people you're right the Lakers were playing really really well coming into this I Had the Lakers beat him in for a before job got hurt Mm-hmm. I think that this the new construction of this rock roster just works in fit Mm-hmm anybody can get hot whether it's shooter or Dilo who's always up and down Rory came out and he couldn't miss they just let him shoot I think he's gonna be he's a great pick up family. Yeah, he is he is low key.

Oh, awesome Reeves He's one that surprised me the most shout out to we younger said he'll Billy Kobe Say he was a waving off LeBron late L. Oh, he finna get a bag to summer. I didn't believe in him I do not believe you we need more people He's on this thing like yeah, I saw from day one man. I saw him.

He was a two-way player I knew he would eventually turn into like the contract clear It's just going to do I knew here eventually turn into like a starting five players Then I knew he would do this in the play I seen it from day one cuz my basketball IQ is so high I seen he had high basketball IQ Lion has asked I do know that he did like who's the guy that went to the to the Bulls that they did it Caruso he really like Caruso and I feel also reads his Caruso like he's better than Caruso Yeah, like to me Caruso is better defensively, but also reads his better offensive But the same mold type of play like he's on the same wave late with LeBron like we see the game the same And he's got so it's just so much better or he's suddenly to his role I don't know he didn't look like this early on in the year Well, they can't this time. Yeah, this white boy I'm gonna give you one name in the NBA and I'm not saying he's gonna make that much money, but he's gonna get paid Duncan Robinson Hey, thank you, that's the con though for the contract. He's not gonna get that much Fairly Yeah, yeah, I was watching a game But yeah, I mean a glass that's the thing about picking them to go to the west and conference violence is seeing how fragile AD is still amazing to watch That every game that it seems like so as a fan he goes down. He goes down.

He's just LeBron. I think he's still a brownie Bro, you still ain't LeBron He's a lot eighty five percent. He's a brownie for this amazing 20 years in 100 All of the playoffs all of the Olympics nobody's played more basketball minutes in LeBron. I know but yeah Yeah, okay, is he still not five in the lead?

It's just when I'm watching him play is like, bro Like you gotta like you're you're slowly not becoming a guy anymore But that's the reason why it's okay for us and reason to wave him off now I like that about the stain like they really settled into like the pecking world of who's gonna do what and they let people cook You know what can't look and I've always said this about LeBron like as his old man game I always said he got it. He needed a post-op game, but LeBron I feel obviously he has an ego But I think he knows how to minimize his ego for the betterment of basketball because he always played the right way Mm-hmm. He's always played the right way. He knows at this point like I'm not Miami Brown bro Like I can turn up in spurts you play me.

Oh, I'm in the night, bro. I don't have it right now. Yeah. Yeah, go get some bug You should be doing.

Yeah. Yeah, he know that you see it. He's not forcing it He does that time because he doesn't know yeah, he does force it. He does force it But yeah, when I was a reason they shot and want ran on the court on my arm him.

I was like, yo, this is wow That's like playing a Yeah, this is why one more members chat oblivion radio. This is about the Warriors King's opposite people you have to like Nick just a Mitchell wrong I'm not wrong man. Not wrong about go to state. It's only two games.

It is only two games. Yeah until it's three Moving on last I guess the last game or series you're talking about in the state of California We got a Phoenix versus LA Clippers Kim is Katie better than Kawhi as an overall player right now. Yes, or you can talk about career wise Yeah, he is but right now Kate I remember I came over here and said Katie was old years ago So he definitely didn't get any younger. He's more, you know, efficient and smart old man game is FIFA was talking about But Kawhi also hadn't been playing for the last two or three years So so his knee guy so you know, he has a little bit more mileage, you know on him than Katie has but I think in this series I think for Phoenix to win the series he has to be better than Kawhi Kawhi had a lot of rest bro, and we're seeing it I was I asked that question because Kawhi is a two-time NBA champion two-time finals MVP defensive player of the year multiple all-star Katie's a two-time NBA champion two-time MVP one MVP finals MVP.

It's two times final name same as Kawhi No, he has regular season MVP. Kawhi. That's what I'm saying. He has one that's something MVP Their record like their resume is like people three times like people keep on acting like Kawhi eight when healthy He's probably top three to me one of his generation 100 Like when if Kawhi is healthy, he it's Janis and being a kawai He's got some danderents nobody like he's got some danderents never done though.

Well lead a team to a title Well, that was the one of the luckiest I mean, he's the leprechaun champ No, that's the case that we got a ring that LeBron got it I'm just saying that Kevin Durant's never led a team to a championship like Kawhi it's wrong So all those that are similar like you're saying if I had the judge you ask me which one was better I go what you are crazy you are insane. I go Kawhi Hell no, I go Kawhi the numbers are the same The numbers are like the numbers are like Like he is right there with K-5 this year Kawhi going 50-40 90 Almost one Katie is old shit now, but K-D is leaps and bounds better than Kawhi Leonard based off what? Just his old play career y'all reading me resumes, but K-D came in day one was dominant Yeah, he took his team to the finals how we co-watt took years to get good. Yeah, he wrote off a team I'm talking from a skill set perspective.

Y'all crazy bag is way bigger than Kawhi Okay, and what he lacks defensively to Kawhi he makes up with his athletic ability and his height and link So Kawhi is a better one on one defender hands down the claw all that okay, but it's not like K-D is severely lacking You know so so K-D can hold his own so the drop off from Kawhi to K-D defensively is not a big drop off Even though Kawhi is ahead, but the difference in offensive game Kawhi to K-D we that's big. I don't think that's the big I don't think it's a big drop. Yeah, why do you say who has better handles? That's not that's not I mean Kawhi You know what?

Let me pause no wait though. Let me school. Let me school this guy's not what we're talking about We're talking about right so you don't think handles has nothing to do with scoring Kawhi is different players how they scored yes, okay, but overall like Kawhi drop 38 in game one K-D had 27 So so we're going by one game and that's what we are talking about offensive game and I want to go and say some other shit Let's break down the players. Let's break down the players systematically Having a dribble having a crossover having moves Get you more shots because you create more space.

I can give K-D I can give Kawhi to the ball from the endbound and he can dribble to the top of the key He's gonna get a shot. He's gonna get two points. Is he more efficient at K-D? Yes or no?

They're not the same I would say this season. He's almost a guy 50% almost how many from three from K-D done that every year but every You like why he's got his numbers? Kawhi has only been off like if he'd have done it four times in his career Only knock on Kawhi's he ain't there the availability so so so he's off by like what makes Kawhi offensive we better than K-D He's just as good. I say that's not just as effective Listen, listen K-D since he came in the league has averaged no less than 20 points Okay, I'm 17 straight years Kawhi has only had five Plus seasons averaging more than 20 points.

Thank you Ken You get into in K-D is better but when we're talking about peaks and who's higher where when I say Kawhi Kawhi's never seen why I know MVP I've never seen I've never seen Kevin Durant do what Kawhi did in Toronto And I've never seen him do what he did in San Antonio when they beat LeBron I've never seen Kevin Durant do it. You've seen Kevin Durant do what Kawhi did in San Antonio's called Golden State No, yeah, because Kawhi played with three other Hall of Famers. Did he not? He was drafted there but did he the point of the ball?

Okay, he's not even a C for the whole reason why people hate what that goes I know what they're saying but what's not different because they play the games, right? Okay, and they had that guy plus three Hall of Famers They both know and they both know because Nick always wants to argue the endpoint What's the context in between? Okay, it isn't no matters throw it out They both came out with the same end result though and you didn't expect that from Kawhi Leonard Kevin Durant had to go in search of that Which takes away from it to Nick's point like Kawhi Leonard. They were like, okay, we have Tony Parker We got you know, but we got to know but they owe and we need you.

Can you step up? Yes? I can do it With them Hall of Famers you talking about same thing with K-D my whole point is these niggas ain't off on no tier They're in the same fucking tier is Katie better overall I would agree with that because he's played long and he's done more But if we're talking about just competitive town wise they can't they almost can't see I think what the stack they do every fucking time bro. They do the stack that Ken gave does this whole argument What's that Kawhi has averaged 20 plus points five years Kd 17 straight?

He's been a lead longer. We're not 17 straight How many years that's going to do that right how many talk about why being elite less Katie? I mean, but what's the point that we're making with it? Because you Yep and argue when he first cracked 20 Two about six years worth of seasons that Kawhi has has been From a percentage base so kes is 100% for Kd correct.

Yeah, and it's 50% for Kawhi Who's the better offensive player bro? Now Kawhi hasn't grow into the guy like it's a town to develop but I said that but but But why would those cancel you so that they don't cancel each other out because the difference in Kd to Kawhi defensively It's not as big as Kd It's about great lies right I'm talking about the player even From an offensive standpoint Kawhi this year 50 40 90 almost a 7% for free those by didn't make it and Offensively he led 18 to an NBA Final Championship, which Kd has never done. I said he can't do it. Are you right?

That's what he's never done. He got lucky bro. He faced a beat up fucking warrior scene. Did Katie play in the series?

Did he be Kd? I don't know what I'm sure he did. He didn't be able to quit. You're right.

They played They play times to get hurt No, I'm just saying but you talk about you led them to the championship if they were hurt that lead will be dead I give him credit for winning the title. That's all I give you credit for the same way I'm eating to win the title I give Katie credit for winning those titles and MVPs that you did you didn't like algebra huh? How's that because you didn't like getting points for the for figuring out the equation you just wanted to get to that? I want to answer this the question I've reason I brought it up is for this debate in general like we need to let Let's not act like Kawhi ain't one of them once so we see the series and we see them take game one It's not a surprise the Clippers have made the Western Conference Finals within the last three years once right within the last Because I picked the certain shit saying thing you just said so my thing is the Clippers are not a team that you can easily fuck around with clearly Because even with Devon Booker and Katie and Chris Paul they still lost at home by Kawhi letter leading the charge with 38 points five and five My next question to you Fifo is which player has more pressure on him and game to Devon Booker a whisper Westbrook nobody gives a fuck about Westbrook wrote people care about what's right every time we do good about it So hell I didn't know it's a hell out of news.

Come on, bro. You already look man. They only want to shit on Westbrook they do they can ever go to us none of but but Westbrook's game at this point is all about context Yeah, he went through for 19, but he made the biggest offensive player win the game So it's all about the overall game is the floor game for Russell Westbrook. It's not his shooting percentage I mean he only had two turnovers to eleven assists.

What do I always talk about Russell Westbrook? It's turned over to key times He didn't have that that's a good game for him because he did everything else three blocks 11 assists 12 rebounds Six offensive rebounds two steals like he had a great floor game for this team to be good That's what you ought to do. It's not about the shooting they got enough scoring on her someone bring up some interest in a value to Playing with Kevin Durant having those battles with Chris Paul. You probably couldn't tell Russell Westbrook He's not the best player in the series.

He don't look at Kevin Durant like he would get Kevin Durant I'm gonna steal to this day because he's gonna he does so that adds to his value in the series That's his value in the series he don't think Chris Paul better than him Game the Westbrook game one I think I asked you his value in the series. What do you think about them bookers so far? Like if I'm Devin Booker and I'm trying to ascend to the level that he wants to ascend to if he considered one of those Players that Kevin Durant and like we arguing about him in Kawhi, then the book can't let them lose game one All y'all niggas is holding in me. I'm supposed to be better than y'all.

I got a better skill set I can shoot better. I'm the dude on Phoenix team like he was supposed to leave his imprint on game one if he was that dude He didn't do it to me It was like kid. I don't know about you But see in Devin Booker not be able to get by Westbrook for the game with it or the entire point that was like to me I was like all these like all this time niggas have been telling me how nice the book is and all that shit and You can't get back to the nigga who could even make it at his home team in the Lakers You don't have the type of game though who do people he's not he's not a first step kind of guy He's not a twitchy act why he has the ball in his hands and lastly he's a basketball player because he knows how to create space It's not about I mean why did he have that opportunity in that position? Because you can't get done over KD.

Yeah, I Wouldn't probably get with the KD, but it's yeah, but it's also look when you have a team built like this You go to the hotter hand KD was hot. What did he score? He was 27? I'm saying is Because But it's hot bro.

Yeah, that is proven that's like plenty of them on that but so the clippers won't win this game game to Are the sons in trouble? Yes, absolutely. Yeah, and I think their biggest problem is that the bench The bench and also chemistry they gave up too much for Katie Not what I'm playing that monster on the other end koala I want to downplay koaya's great. It's just I don't think he's on cable level koala Like I'm just as good as KD.

I'm not gonna bring old Chris Paul in a soft I don't think he's looking at KD. I gotta take you down. He wanted to take LeBron down But he's not looking at KD is like you're my rival But if he did we would have saw him he wanted those dudes. He'll never say shit though.

I put it you like this I don't think that's that's enough. I think he definitely wanted to take LeBron down and we doing the same shit We did when co when co I won that ring at Toronto We've boosted up koala in her like he's a guy here done shit since he fucking left Toronto And now we try to say he's better than fucking KD I'm gonna say this and you can say this is definitely hot tape if he loses this series in the first round Okay, Chris Paul is the most disappointing player in the history to lead In the history Yeah, no, he's all famous but he's never like every time he's had the opportunity He's like me usually something happened like like you remember I called him I feel like I was one of the very few people in sports media calling out Chris Paul when they played against him a walkie Butte and the finds more than man disappear bro that man disappeared he disappeared against the Mavericks We should talk about all of the years with James was two years of James Harden He was hard one of them fine the years with the Clippers that was that I I'm just saying like the jury is out. We've called him arguably the greatest leader of a team You know saying if it's not named LeBron We say oh, he's a great point guard is that a third? But he hasn't been able to lead his team to the promised land and and come back with the hardware You know what I'm saying like to me that means something that that means a lot because we've heralded him He's a top five point guard to everybody's game top five and It's like he does everything but the one game the one moment like the to the overcoming like like what makes it like a Tough story to a victory like he is just that one thing.

He's never had there's been one person his size. It has that I was I think it speaks to how hard it is. No, I've always said that about a little guy But that's what I'm saying like in terms of Chris Paul. He's he's had the help Yes, especially later in this year and I agree with you I was just as you were saying it just as you were saying it's only I'm saying who else that small because that's Chris Paul's probably biggest Bang against him.

It's like I'm just not big enough to take you from round one to the finals and you depend on me every Like he's not he can't like he's too little in Isaiah again. That speaks to how good he is and how big Jordan is From people ever mentioned him, but I see the only little dude that size never did you know um ever is crazy over who ever you said ever That's a string because he was a officer like because he was a rain He's not gonna win a rain, but at least he got to play in the finals Yeah, but but the way he looked it's kind of like if LeBron played like he did against the Mavericks and never made it back Yeah, but that was the point where he didn't he wasn't even sniffing the final no 100% He needed that to at least add to his resume. I give you that but can't but can't imagine LeBron's legacy The only time we see them in the finals was against and it's only early against Dallas and that's it The narrative of Ronald Brown is like yeah, but Ryan like super hype coming in so I think it was different nobody Paul this move on Take yeah nobody was looking at Chris Paul like oh my god. He's gonna be that that's guy like LeBron came in with all that He just lived up to it Milwaukee versus Miami Ken if Yannes has hurt and or hobbled for an extended period time.

Does that change the whole series outcome for you? It shouldn't But it will I think the but still can beat the heat without Yannes They've won lots of games without Yannes throughout the season so they're used to playing with them without him so But it's gonna make an impact. I think for them. They're gonna just try to get through it So it doesn't balance it out But it definitely helps them by the heat losing hero Because now it's just Jimmy and everybody else And I don't know if that'll be enough.

I will say this Jimmy Buck is only shows up in the playoffs Like that dude, I'm sorry super star show for the playoffs can't he's only like a regular player to all star the regular season Play-offs come his man turn it up to not show up against the halls He didn't but he got to the playoffs. He's in the playoffs. He's in the playoffs and we Always see him leave it all on the court when it matters. So, you know, but he definitely steps up.

You definitely stuff I think without Yannes It'll be an issue to try to win because you know, Miami's just focused like that You know, they're there even though they're they don't have as much talent as some other teams They're just cut sharper, you know saying like, you know that they're gonna be in shape You know they're gonna be much of a tough so it's not like you just gonna knock them out is gonna be easy Even without Tyler hero. I think it's always the next man up in Tyler he would pat rally teams So I think it'll be tough, but I definitely think yannes is gonna play through it Like the MRI came back clean and he's a sort you're saying your NBA player, you know, you won't get treatment You got three three almost four days in between gay. It will be alright. You know, say it'd be alright It'll be a little sore, but this what you do it for.

There's like pay your money and I'm broke You know, I'm saying we want to make sure you feel good as possible, but go out there and get these you know I'm saying so I think we'll walk you still got it. You're great to ya As long as it's long excuse me as Yannes comes back I think they're in a great position and if he doesn't If yannes Miami has a bit spinnin series If yannes doesn't come back. Oh, yeah, I think that's always a wild card in India That's my thing is like if if Miami took game one they did a job No, I don't forget they were in rhythm like the Bucks have been sitting down. Yeah, that's true.

That's true too, but Was it yeah, yannes laying down now? But my thing is it's scary right now. Miami ain't scared it They've beaten the Bucks before with yannes. They've taken boss like there are team words like because of their past experiences And they've been to the finals in the last three years like they are not scared.

He's not scared He's a big thing though. I think he's a hero is like I think he's on for playoffs at this point. Yeah Yeah, he broke his hand. Yeah, he was 20 again six minutes last year.

Yeah, he was sitting out last year He had a 20 game this year which was third highest on the team He had four and a half assists which was third highest on the team and I think he had a number of three Third percentage on the team so you're losing a lot with losing Tyler here off of this team But Miami teams are just tough like that. Yeah, all right moving on You know and they were to the game starter tonight with the Cleveland Cavaliers versus the New York Knicks Um FIFA Do you think and or believe that I'm gonna carry the caps in the second round of course? You know his team is better than what it was when you talk he has the perimeter play that's necessary as a you know Two three four punch, you know, it's not always just the Mitch So yeah, of course and here's the thing. I like New York, but I don't like them enough to say that they're better than Cleveland I definitely think Cleveland is the deeper team.

I think Cleveland is the better team And just over of course on a second game series I just again, I don't see New York having enough firepower to compete and our day bears not that guy I think you're gonna make a big mistake by paying him a max contract Like that team is gonna be very interesting, but um, yeah, not better than Cleveland So you know I'm using say that regardless who we played. What about you Lou from the Stology purposes? I'm room for the next I just met us as well. Go out to playoffs remember how they were in the 90s I think it's better is more entertaining to see a playoff game in New York, then it is in Cleveland So I would they win this round and then next round they would play what Milwaukee Bucks?

I mean Milwaukee name. Yeah I like to see that I can see how it's if he pops back going to Madison Square solidifying You know his championship run if that's the case or maybe even the next up said no I think it's way more entertaining as a casual fan for the Knicks to be good and winning versus a really bad backhand Accomplament it is like you talk about you want Madison Square? I do I do want to know the Knicks I remember Patrick you want Anthony Mason and Because of the next that's you talking about you want to see y'all this at Madison That's just I do it. I think you should not be able to take it as disrespect He wants the Knicks to get to the second round and play honest.

That's exactly what I want I will fuck with his reasons. I think if they heat upset the Bucks a We go to the Easter conference finals we get what Lew asked before yeah, but we got to get really fine Mixing six you know I got Nixon six you get the Knicks in the East and Conference finals versus with Boston bosses My my dream right now is that's must Lakers Clippers Western Conference finals Boston Knicks Eastern Conference finals boss L.A Regardless those about that's my that's my that's the what the NBA wants That's what everybody want ideal match those are the best ratings you'll get for it probably last three years Battle LA battle the Atlantic and I would see older Bron and old Kyrie Kawhi, and what do you think about this Cleveland? I think the guys I think the captain win it, but I think that Bronson is showing that last year in the playoffs wasn't a fluke and he's showing that throughout the regular season But you know a lot of people watch in the playoffs and now people got a chance to really see what he's all about And he had a really good impact when he was with Dallas to the point where look it was like shit Yeah, we miss a lot and and he made some really big plays in that game and in game one But you know game to was a barrage and they got they got cooked and that team is to play off They came back more focus more desperate and the manager win it but the the the nits got a split But the cows can definitely go in the garden and get one maybe two. I think I'm down to this was good for two two games But it's gonna be next in six That's really all I got to say down is going to go off in game three.

Let's make a gentleman's foot This was a good wake-up call for the young nicks to be like all right I can't keep like game one. Y'all played great This game there's a lot of bad shots from both sides But the captions was more relentless because they had to win that game But the next one bounce back I love your confidence. I love your bar confidence. I wait till I wait till I bring the mellow jersey I was supposed to bring it today.

I couldn't you know say it's getting dry clean right now I like to keep you fresh you know say wait till I bring the mellow dirty That's what you know is the rep that's gonna be the go-do you're go-do you're go When they say little do your big bomb But Yeah, that's all I got all right. Let me get to you know read that yeah, I did read let me see Did I read both of those members messages? Yeah, I read the one about from oh Blivion and we young all right She hell is she here Kev would you rather have and who would you rather have and trust more as a starting point guard on a content in team Jana Bronson or Kari Bronson the Lakers Bronson he just he just said a starter for And He is he is What do you mean the history of Kari? Yeah, I said where's where's the best leadership you see Kari?

I mean who says it was a good leader though Are you that he led a team in Dallas? He wasn't a better player we know he didn't leave the team because but what he's Lord with New York Kari couldn't do that with New York even though Kari is the better player Kari is not the better galvanizer You know I'm like I'm gonna like D-way was a leader the early heat teams when LeBron was there eventually changed over But like he wasn't the best because he was I mean can be the leader the team I'm prove that we're gonna say no 100% but but but but D-way had championship hardware. I'm a default to you I'll try to do what you got you make our Yeah, man, if the Nick's a Kari right now they'll be a lot Nick's Hello, Julie, I'm going to be hella Jewish people at the damn guard saying get this thing off the tip I know they went in the process is a benefit, but I still take our for the next But yeah, I would take Kari overall, but to me really depends on situation. I'll take I really brought him any day any day Another members chat Marty McFly if Katie lose it'll be three straight years of losing the fours of his era Giannis Tatum Kawad does that hurt his legacy?

Yes, it don't know Because when it's all said and done we're gonna talk about the MVP We'll talk about the Golden State run we'll talk about his runs how many points he doesn't score in the league like I'm gonna talk about oh, well, you know Jason Tatum beat him in this day like how many rings Jason Tatum go have more No more the KD. I don't know. Yeah, and that's I got it Yeah, and there's contents to all of those not that it really matters, but now I don't see that like you know Like you said the Sun see lose the Kawah He just got there and played a lot of games with with the with the next well, he'll realize it when you get there With the next that thing was dysfunctional. They never even really played the other lot And with you on his people talk about his foot with a lot and but you know so there'll be you know excuses or whatnot But Katie I mean Katie is that was that guy definitely but he's old now so I don't think that hurt his legacy But yeah, I think it's a little fight and I think that's why you wouldn't go to stay to get those rings to He definitely needed that Where I get frustrated with KD is this you endured all of that chatter all of that talk to make the move Resign and when a Just and dominate the NBA to wow Because now now like it was all why he had to join them with the mother got a motion curable run ever like it I had a run like Mike.

I was six years. Yeah, I couldn't beat us Yeah, so that's why I went there you know to say so like to me It's kind of like well damn, bro, because I think him leaving go to stays that hurts his legacy to a degree I would agree with that, you know, but if you were to stay because already it was going against the green and even if If you lose here like I thought um who's that said that like this is a Paul George less clipperstein? You know understand that right now everybody's already looking at the book and not Katie Katie will get out on this And Chris ball and everybody and the thing about it is Chris Paul is washed. Yeah, so and they still gonna blame Chris ball That's the thing and that's the thing about KD's legacy to as well people all I feel like people would look at it as I mean You kind of take an easy way out like you're never gonna take the blame if your team doesn't win You go to go and stay if they had one those titles it still wouldn't have been okay It would have been on stealth.

It would have been on draimont would have been on clay It would have been on him just like here in Phoenix if they lose like we just said it's on Chris Paul It's on different book. Yeah, I'm really absorbing myself of any blame I'm just here if it goes well you can be like what the heck I did he did this up Yeah, the thing about it even if they come back next year, Katie gonna be older. Yep, Chris Paul gonna be older like what's the way I guess so, you know, so yeah, so I don't know about you guys hands full But you know, it's gonna be a tough match up and they definitely lose tonight, but I and they down right now Here's the thing about teams constructed in this way. You know, you're gonna get those wily veterans That want to ring chase that is gonna take the minimum to do so and this squad is prepared to be that in that type of arena You know say we just need guys to do one good thing That's it.

We don't need the three and the guy we didn't need a three guy in any guy You know, I'm saying and I think they'll be able to fulfill their debt Look at what the Lakers did and the Lakers had to do it to trade like not even through free agency So I have confidence in James Jones are making the moves necessary because he because he seen what it look like He was the guy the best specialist that only came in for seven minutes So, you know, you know what to take. He knows what he's looking for. So I'm confident that Phoenix is gonna be a better team next year But like you said a year older for all your guys that matters for everybody not named the book and the Andre 8 Yeah, that's that's big for the other ones for K for CP because CP So ever since that finals run had not been the same. I mean, it was terrible tonight.

Yes, like, you know, you know, like a old man Yeah, it was bad, bro. He look good. Like you said. Yeah, he has a look good all year.

So, yeah This is this is not good. I mean honestly, they really He's supposed to make that every time yeah, like like that's supposed to be 80% right there If I'm not working If I'm worse, I was breaking I see Chris Paul going in I'm more athletic to him like I feel more confident Yeah, um I believe in radio people and shelter in the spirit come on y'all the Warriors are not winning They look shook and lost play Chuck and shots JP ain't shooting well turnovers. Traman stepping on people is over man Two games at home Kev like years ahead Warriors gave a guy who consistently gets played off the court and the playoffs 128 million Jordan pool Yeah They need to get as physical as the Clippers I hate a physical to big man, it is a mentality, but yeah, I think He see that yeah, that's They don't have to recognize to tell you right tell you like let's let's boo. Yeah, that's what I'm Not they not a dad to wear all that's the reason why you go get the marquee or Marcus Morris is other leader to add that stuff That's the thing you don't say like so when I'm talking about like those guys I'm talking about like you need to ask them some size of the spot those are the people that are not sent to the next to Kati 100% yeah, so Yeah, so they're playing like we get them down to always sweeping oh yeah Right now we got them.

Yep. Let's see just a couple more Steven a smell who would benefit from winning the title the most and Philly for their legacy Doc Rivers James Artino Joellen beat Joellen beat yeah Got a chip Yeah, brother a champ to feel it. Yeah, and we know that that team is led by Joelle and not James Harding So it's not like the Kobe Shakti. Yeah, you know say it's not like James Harding is a Sunday He's descending Joelle is now at the peak of his powers So we know that that is because of him.

Yeah, so that boosts his legacy most we start looking at him like how many Kenny way exactly Man damn Don't Andrew L both of being shit at all, but I feel like Doc went on a title road with definitely quite a lot of folks He got titles though went another title with this name. I thought she's been through I'll give you that but I still think it means more because of dr. Tires now. He's a championship coach Yeah, no, okay I think the coaches in the NBA don't get a lot of respect or disrespect is just like they're there because we know they got a Beat her so if that wins another title, I don't think that it does a lot for his resume Can't that's a big move for them bones.

Hi, man. Oh, yeah, I know I love bones. Hi, man. Yeah, yeah, look like I think I picked the sons The windows when I look like I might be wrong.

That's one because they just did not work I'm not just Josh Rose appreciate I'm not letting you do that can't no go to state Warriors was beating warriors with Kati He still beat Warriors with stuff and play Abs Drake play got hurt during game five. Yeah, play was hurt in game five and the closeout game It was yeah, yeah, like that matters, you know, so and I think they wanted to sit so that would mean it went What five and six I can't remember what that score went but anyway ago. Yeah, no, I think that matters bro Compare their playoff numbers and it's a different story I want to make it all about playoffs until it's Kati then it's just numbers now You mean Katie best postseason the moment outside go to stay worse not that I mean it went I think we were just talking about Katie and Kawhi Nick was saying that is really closer than we think when he was looking at it So I don't know we were really talking about the play out It went to the playoffs conversation went a couple of different ways But it really started with just the players overall themselves and of course we use playoffs to to make our game Yeah, yeah, so But not Katie when he when he when he played against Miami like Katie was good in that series It was Katie and Westbrook was good in that series like people as well. I want to say why people be shit No, Westbrook.

I mean I get it. There's been this whole span against them But everything that Katie the Westbrook is doing in as a clipper. He was doing in LA. He was quiet this year Yeah, he's had less turnovers with the Clippers like per game.

Well, just talking about like answers and stuff like that But I'm like everything he did. Yeah, everything Westwood like you're talking about the game. Yes, let's turn over Yeah, let's turn over it's still the same fucking Westboro But and they've been quiet on Westwood this year But they just wait for Westwood to do something to fuck up and um, but he hasn't really done a lot of that this year compared to last year Plus, I mean, he's a fucking clip of nobody will fuck about the Clippers So that's why they don't really talk about it That was different from the like the Maybe just what happened if Melo went to Miami instead of New York It was like everything's perfect, but we're missing one thing and it's like that was KD Where the criticism of KD is fair because when you're talking about basketball IQ He should be able to understand why people are upset at him for going to join the Yeah, I'm above the media I'm gonna take away from you Think you don't care about that. Yeah, I don't care which is why he's made the moves He's made I think if he did care he would have stayed in gold estate because then now what he would never win Oh, he would have never went I can't say because bro like if he was a purist if he was a basketball like this is what I care about He would just say no, I'm a city and he would convince Russ to stay there as long as not Not finally started because of because of no, I don't know if they would want championships the basketball fit wasn't great Russell Westbrook is a lose cannon when you need them to be tight But look that's a part of being a great player Presenting it to Russell Westbrook in the offseason or hey look this is not working.

How do you know? I want to say here you and I have something special Let me tell you how to make this a championship team if we bring another coach or if it's somebody that teaches us an All season about when KD love Well, I just think that that's a part of when people Give him they demerit him for what he's done in his career. That was one of the thing he could have been the leader Okay, see me like look Russ, let's make this work because you and I are probably the best one two combination in the league If we figured this out we joined in Pippin, but it's generation But we know that Russell's mentality was that he's Jordan Okay, so if I'm KD and I'm the Savannah. I gotta figure out how to be Pippin, right?

Hell no, he's Jordan. No, no, no, no, no, no, if we can win championships if me being Pippin No, why not be Pippin because he's not because he's not thing out of that but he's not Pippin though He's more look at the end of the day at the end of the day KD is a very great player, right? He's gonna be one of these players that is primarily Graded by the amount of championships that he has won he currently has two. Yeah, how many more can he add?

And to me that's what's gonna sway his legacy if he had won two championships in Oklahoma City with him and Russ Figuring it out it would have went way more to his legacy than those two championships. I 100% agree That's all I'm saying. No, I 100% agree, but I also feel and you know, we haven't been drinking so it's hard, you know It was a feeling we would be true. Um If he would have stayed in and go to state and won four or more five or more, okay, then that's that's greater than what it did That's true.

That's true those two would not have compared to standing go to say to win a five or six You're right. I agree with that so to me. It's like okay cool You made those two would have been really important based off what we see him have done now Yes, I was the Brooklyn and I went to Phoenix Because you know, I think some championships have more weight to them Yeah, you know what I'm saying and okay see was what a hell more weight where in go to state you need a more volume like LeBron's Cleveland Exactly coming back down three one like that that that ring that carry weight facts That's like, you know, right that thing heavy now. Yes that thing is super heavy Um, and we're talking arguably the greatest team ever assembled.

Yeah, you know said before the KD That was it is 73 tonight. So, you know to come back three one down three one with that that that championship I mean is one of the greatest achievements in NBA history and especially in the manner that they did it LeBron with the block here. I read what the shot like it just meant a lot, but um KD I think his legacy is cemented as top 15 Top 10, you know to some people argue all time like he's gonna be top 10 tough You know, I don't know people put him on a Mount Rushmore. I wouldn't tell me LeBron is yeah, but I think it's a little fire top Two yeah, uh maybe 15 I think Steph Curry is the one that we're watching now that can potentially be on the Mount Rushmore It's crazy to say because if he wins this year, that's five.

Yeah, come on. Okay. Yeah, yeah And we're talking overall impact of the game like all the kids want to beat stuff Yeah, everybody shoot a 40 foot fat three pointers last one. What is KD done since he left since what is KD done since Kawal Love Toronto not a They're both indentured my thing was like once again people we're trying to hype up a Kawai and that's why I said about Kawai It's like the guy hasn't done shit and we're trying to elevate this guy again like they did when they ran to He's like we keep trying to sell us Kawai and it's like and to the people that think I don't like Kawai go watch a lot of the old Dead in sports videos.

I was one of the first persons on this program that was talking Kawai up And I was I was a big and still I'm a bit fan of Kawai What I don't like is when they try to take these dudes and use them as props or competition against others when he won that they were saying this guy's been a little brown it's saying this is saying this and other and Nothing happened, you know, even when they did that with KD. It's like we're Katie like Katie put it to LeBron Katie Gae LeBron work Katie Dominic this series. You have to wait We had a far more superior team. So of course he's gonna do all that stuff, you know So yeah, I think the way they frame in the Katie run the Katie versus LeBron the finals is a little overstated as well But that's my old thing and now they're trying to try to do it again It's like let Kawai just be one of the great players that we've seen that got a ring as a spur and he got one in Toronto And it is what it is But he will never be up there with the LeBron's on Katie.

It's just not gonna happen. It's just not gonna happen. We you know He's not dynamic enough. Mm-hmm You know, it's a good Media see it doesn't care, you know, but the media wants to sell us it.

He doesn't care, but Kawai is great He's dominating his game, but the other thing is the sons are just fucking soft in trouble, man Forget all that bro. They fucking salt. Yeah, I'm trouble. Yeah, like a zoo box is doing to them Well, you know time we do run has them guys playing together well, they've been playing this is a trouble This team has been together for a while, but so they know each other But it's just soft like I'm watching and they can they're physical like book brick and like a shot He's been making it with his eyes blows.

Do you think somebody come from on him? Somebody go tap on his wrist and Kate see look and I know I'm beating the bear horse But this is the reason why Katie was so perfect for go to state was because he went in there and he just fit inside the car I gotta do it in the system when I got to be tough I don't have to be anything forget the emotion or whatever like armor you got to wear on the outside I'm just talking about from a pure basketball perspective I've watched Katie just hit three shots But all three of them shots are not necessarily in the flow of the office It just can't be turning up Katie and I can hit and I can hit this and That's what may go to state unfair is that we're just playing our system We just plug them in he understands he has high basketball IQ We run into him and through stuff and we're just getting all these type of over shots where he has to make a conscious effort I gotta go get buckets. That's a problem. Let me take the ball right now exactly You're not gonna be a more Chemistry yeah, you're not gonna be the team like that and y'all I'm trying to tell y'all told y'all I said this Last year I think maybe you Kawhi Katie is old y'all Katie is old It's only so much you can do so you're citing his record O and A to the last playoff games understand this man is old and he's by himself and by himself We have a special with him was a next by himself and now he's with the team He has no chemistry on that looks disjointed Chris Paul.

He's basically damn near by self again, but Chris Paul is washed So it's just like why did he go here because I guess next we're bad Katie is old It's only so much we can expect we're seeing the decline right now You know Kawhi has played half as many as them to have as many seasons as them and have taken whole years off Whole seasons off so yeah, so you know, I'm gonna make excuses I call it what it is and maybe it's both but you know, so yeah, that's it. I'm gonna leave you there But uh, just like why be good. Let's go. I'll be good and not great.

He's a great player, but it's just he ain't no bronzing It's just not on that top tier. I don't know. He's just not there I want to know the man He's always all the criticism. Yeah, this man stays hurt But all they talk about is ad constantly hurt like every time you see him.

You're surprised like oh cooperate She don't talk about that She a Katie in the same bucket too, but he's played more seasons. I really ran out many years they played But I think one time I was in our group chat I was like everybody's on my ad say her and I pointed out the games that they play I was like Katie even heard a lot too. We ain't seen Katie on court like that We definitely don't be saying Kawhi on the court like that ad when they started running numbers turn out He played more games than them do you see and I understand like the CBA is pretty much done I mean there's a couple of things that I feel like we need to talk about regarding the CBA But do you feel that they need to put stipulations around how many games you play equally to pay because I know that they did it for You know in the season awards and major awards like MVP all NBA teams and stuff like that Like you know there's a minimum amount of games But do you think that team should be able to write into contracts that like you know if you don't play more than 70 games You know where you're gonna take a 20% hit on your pay unless it's like Like like a you know like a season ending injury or something like that not age guys basketball years Jesus Christ What the hell two or three years younger like these seasons matter Smart than this don't bet right but uh probably I think that but you know and I think in Kawhi's Defense like his injuries as a reporter were legit so and I'm all four players, you know not doing something You gotta make a team first exactly exactly so I think he did the right thing if you didn't feel like he was up enough to play Protect yourself, you know, but It's still is a thing with him But he still didn't get heavily criticized for it Just like they I give another example like I think we were one of the ones and say, you know pop of it started the whole old Man, you think but the media blame LeBron for it and it was and I never feel like y'all are saying this is like LeBron start No, it was it was a very popular what are we doing it preparing for the playoffs with Tony Park? Yeah, he's good and uh, Tim nothing.

Yep. Mm-hmm So the CB a thing I wanted to talk about real quick and we may have to touch on it another day is um Did you see the stipulation where you can have? What was it? No, it was all around Resigning players remember Bob Myers and this is why I keep saying that going to say like years ahead by Myers If not this season last season was talking about how he fears it how he feels It's unfair that we continue to draft talent, but we're not able to afford to pay them and in the CBA now I don't know how it manages your cap or what the stipulations are But I know that you're able to sign more players Without it going into luxury tax that you drafted off of rookie extensions So I think that's huge for a team like okay see where you know how like you're able to go over your cap You know saying so like if you have bird rights, but now you're able to resign guys off of rookie deal off You know coming off of their rookie deals and I don't know um again What this stipulation is but I just know that you're able to do that more in the chat, you know Hit us up like clarify for me, but I know it has on the dude.

Yeah, I think it helps If I can keep it's yeah, you know, I can keep the whatever to go out there white boys Why would I don't get it giddy and I got home when coming to me? It's not just a small market teams I think it's the teams that decide to draft their talent. Oh, yeah, and do well in scouting Yeah, so they put that towards that versus reality Yeah, because you look blue I don't know if you've been around long enough to hear me say this I feel like there's two regardless of NBA NFL two ways you build your team you draft them or you buy them yeah, right? By free agents or you know, you endured a heartache to be able to draft high and get really good guys You know, um and I feel go to state has been a method of drafting We saw the Atlanta Hawks going to run the for the doctors sixers Boston Right so being able to assign these guys to long-term deals off of their rookie deals and not really impact you in the way that the old CBA I think it's gonna be huge.

Yeah, it's gonna be huge Well, they got it back to zero 59 59 first half list still to look like they played a little bit more physical like they got a little Little more contact and because they were really getting it up, but what's what Westbrook was leading the game is going to something That's crazy. That's crazy. All right, y'all. Well, that's gonna do it.

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