NBSV 034: Chef Karen McAthy on all things vegan cheese! Can it be called "cheese" if it's non-dairy? A discussion on language, cheese as a process, microbes, vegan 'cheeze' versus 'cheese', and more

Chef Karen joins me from her plant-based cheese shop to address the myth that something can be called "cheese" only if it's made with dairy; the idea of cheese as a process, not only an end product; and the differences between types of vegan cheeses. She shares her approach to answering, "You can't call that cheese because it's not made with dairy!", a quick microbiology lesson, and her take on language evolution and the definition of "cheese". The most fascinating dialogue on vegan cheese you'll ever hear.