So live, we're live, live. And normally we would have a lovely Sami voice coming on, but Sami's dead, sorry. Let's take a moment of silence for dead Sami. We miss you, Sami.
Yes. Welcome to the Nelly Up North podcast, a podcast ran by Northern nerds. Sami always says it better. I am one of the co-hosts, and I've got three other co-hosts tonight.
We've got Game and Up North, Jacob North now. Jake, Jake, whatever. Up North. Yeah, up North.
So yeah, accurate. We've got the top grumps, I've joined us. Beautiful, the ever-vescent, the weirdly green Chris. I think I talked to you later.
We've got Daddy Discord, the guy that makes everything rock and gets all the ladies, juices flowing, just by flicking his hair and talking so much about Dragon Ball Z. Well, yes. It is a bit of a chaotic episode. I'll apologise.
This is what was going to be known now, forever, as the Cursed episode, because we've had so many bands and so many things fall through for this episode. Originally we had two, like the third grump was supposed to be joining us, because this idea came about from the charity stream where we'd had a few talk, two hours where we discussed Star Wars and those hours could have went on and on. So we thought, we simply enjoyed this. We seemed like talking about the wars.
So we'll do a regular segment on the episode. And it was all planned out. And George dropped out and Sammy died. So yeah.
Great. But yeah, Sammy does have a really bad sore throat, so we actually get so well soon, which is not there. And then George defends his hand cup to a radiator somewhere. Yeah, Nicole went up and there.
We don't want to know what's happened up there. Yes. But yeah, I blanked fall by half the cast. Half the cast, yes.
The gruesome two of them helped out. Yes. Chris, are you OK? You don't look well at the world.
And yeah, the vape out of the nostrils really helped. Time and everything. Time and everything. That was in vape.
That's just me inside. But yeah, I'm a daggabur. It's like the mists of daggabur got you. I'm just going to say, I had so many plans for this episode.
I was like, I'm going to have a really classic intro. Lots of graphics flying around and about half an hour before this episode was like, every fucking thing's not working. Nothing has worked. Like literally the crawl wouldn't even crawl.
And I was like, I'm going to call it nerd wars. So yes, I'm very vexed and angry. You've got an annoyed Paul tonight. So yes.
We asked the perfect time to talk about Star Wars. But yes, hi, chat. I can see we've got some friendly faces, some new faces as well. We've got Chris's new friend, Phoebe.
We've got Becca. We've got Sarah. We've got Beth. We've got the ghost of Sammy in the chat as well.
So yes, an ex-tunes there as well. So yes, thank you for joining us. And we are here. It's kind of like a celebration, so we say, because we did a celebration episode the other week for Christopher Reeve.
And we're going to celebrate our love of Star Wars and why we kind of fell in love with Star Wars and what about Star Wars keeps us coming back from, like, say, on a date. Like, because I don't think as nerds, we go through a day in our life where we don't come across or even think about Star Wars in the smallest way, I would dare say it. Yes, but I do need Sammy's ghost has told me to say the disclaimer first before we talk about Star Wars. Otherwise we'll get in trouble.
It's one of those toxic fandoms in the entire world. But everything discussed in today's episode is our opinion and our opinions alone. If you'd like to discuss anything today's episode, please come and join us in the Discord, the Facebook group, or the comments section where we can have an open discussion. What we won't have is any scruffy looking nerf herders coming for us and telling us our opinions are wrong because we can all read this and be in fandoms, so let's keep it fun, keep it kind, and keep the toxic behavior out of no-dism.
Well said, well said. And that is the start of my galactic empire. I was waiting for Chris to add his little line in. I wanted to say it.
We'll get in. We'll get sued. Are you that scared of that? You're not going to see it.
Don't be a dick. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. Sorry for interrupting your poll. I didn't want to let it get too far without it because Sammy would be raging on the keyboard. But yeah, you are absolutely right.
I feel like Star Wars is so entrenched in fandom culture that a lot of stuff does come back to Star Wars, even if it's not really related, you can probably think of all like movie premieres lining up for movies like that became a Star Wars thing in the 2000s when the prequel was. And the whole like, you know, Trek versus Wars, no, like nerd Wars. That was like the original one, wasn't it apart from, you know, like probably like Lord of the Rings versus something. I don't know.
Nobody walks the walk with movie. Yeah. But again, a lot of people's probably nerd like crush or like say, not nerd crush word, wrong word, like, no, love of like nerd culture, or pop culture probably comes from Star Wars. Because as Jake rightly said, they're probably first for you into sci-fi was either Star Wars or the Trek side of it as well.
I think it was a bit more accessible because it was on TV, the TV shows that had many seasons and movies. What Star Wars was a little bit different. I've owned a VHS or you wait for it to be released on, and it's quite interesting that we've got like a wide variety of age groups as well. Cause like me being in all the states, I'm not saying that I saw the original one when it first came out, but I was certainly around for Empire and Jedi.
So saying like say firsthand, like the kind of culture change, not just for movies, but if you talk about like say merchandise, toys, how like say, marketing changed as well because of these movies, like it literally changed the landscape on pretty much anything to do with pop culture from that point. It was like, revolutionary by George Lucas, like an all, he gets a lot of shit, which some of it is quite deserved, but he was such a clever man. He saw the potential of what this was going to be and where it can come from without kind of like, and a lot of people did laugh at him for those aspects as well. It's like, okay, we'll do the rights to the movies, but okay, I want the rights to like the Martin and the toys and they're like, all right, so no one's going to buy that shit.
And the amount and money that is made off that is just crazy. But yeah, George Lucas is a very clever man with that aspect. So if you hear like stories from him and like, because he's kind of like part of the friend group that includes like Spielberg and stuff because they were like all sort of filmmakers who were getting their start around like that time. And it's like, he is actually quite a smart guy.
Like, you know, everyone complains about like the politics and stuff in like episode one where it's like, ah, the trade blockage and stuff like that. Like he is genuinely interested in like real world like stuff like that. And he tries to put stuff in his movies that kind of like do link back to like history, like he's making films about wars and he's like taking real world examples and like Spielberg loved to do that kind of thing as well. I think they did some like documentary work as well like for the army.
And so was that Spielberg traded like some of the rights for with coasting countless or something where they were both like, oh, this film's not going to work and it's like, oh, no, my film's not going to work. And they're just like, well, let's just swap some rights and see who wins like that. Like try to help each other out like you can have something. I've got that one.
The one I did here was Spielberg involved with this is when Lucas was chocking around the movie and getting people to watch the film. He got like some big director's like, I think Francis Ford cobbler and stuff like that was involved. All of them said this was a pile of shit. This wouldn't work.
And then he was like, this is going to be, and he isn't. This is going to be the next big thing. So Spielberg was one of the ones that was a big, like kind of like a supporter for star wars when it first came out. So with maybe the old the theatre.
So with, I'll go work one of the youngsters first. So I know, I don't know. Because a few people that are asking if Chris is all okay here, Chris, we don't know. Nobody's even at how far the screen goes down.
Oh, he's creating it all over. I'll show ya later. We'll find it on top grumps on Tuesday. What was your first experience with the wars?
Like, I know it's probably a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. Well, so the first proper experience to start was probably episode one, where my dad took us to the pictures to see it. I had seen the original trilogy before, but that was my first proper, but it was at least like, 20,000 nichyards. It was 99.
99. So I would have been 99 then. So I think that would have been my first proper introduction to start to go to the films to see it. I'd seen the original trilogy before.
I loved it, but it was just like, I think it was more key to me episode one because I was off that age. I loved Jojo Binks. So you try to get friends with Sami now, is that what it is? I mean, no, no.
We are contractually obligated to say Jojo is good, and we like him. I thought the best Sami will kill it. But she said at least one person said one nice thing. So I was trying to tell her.
Also, let's say three. Yeah, you can see what you want. Yeah, fuck Jojo. I'll carry that.
After we actually, I mean, I charged our Lee in my little story earlier. So Sami late tonight, we have the like the dirty nerve early is, and what was your little experience with Star Wars? Was your first memory of being with the wars? Honestly, I couldn't tell you because I was that young.
Me, grander, loved sci-fi stuff and he would put Star Trek on in Star Wars and kind of got like indoctrinated into it. Which I think is probably how kids actually get into it. Now it is the parents are normally like, you're watching this. It's the greatest thing ever.
And then up until the new ones came out, I think I would sit at least once a month and watch the original trilogy. Or because they were just always on like ITV, like Sunday afternoon or Sunday afternoon or Saturday afternoon. I'm called the Washington type thing. Always seem to be on the telly.
So I could probably do the original trilogy word for words. It's not my name. It's not going to be that type of podcast. Yeah, great.
What happens when it pans over the canteen? What do you do? What do you do? Oh, dear.
Here we go. He's good. He's in pressure. What about you, Jake?
What was your first experience with the wars? I was going to say something similar to like Tilly because I think like in my life, it's kind of always existed. If that makes sense. Like I don't remember much of a time before it.
But I do have like a memory of seeing, I think Empire Strikes Back on like, you know, Sunday afternoon television, like Ramon Gran parents. I think like my parents must have been there as well. Like seeing the Vader father twist and being like, what? Like, yeah, it's cool because it might always exist.
Like, you know, there's probably like posters and tapes and shops and stuff like that. But I've still hadn't been spoiled even though it was like, you know, from the 70s and 80s. But yeah, I did not like episode one. I mean, that kind of weird time, right?
Where I had the video tapes growing up. I had like one of the box that was like white and black and stuff. I'd be in space on the side. Yeah, the silver box.
Yeah, it must have been out in the 90s at some point. Because it was like new for Christmas. But yeah, like I love the tips. So like I've technically seen sort of what passes as the original version before that.
All the night, the special effects. When I'm shot first, basically. Yeah, I think I don't think I think the only way to get the proper proper one in like four by three or like the original widescreen or something is like laser disc, which is kind of the, so I don't know if you can get a download of like that anymore. They did rate released them on DVD quite a number of years ago where it was called original cut.
I think the problem with those was they were in four by three so I had some stuff cut off or like squished in. Yeah, I think the only way to get like the real widescreen one is like original run laser discs or something ridiculous like that. But I think they've been lost right like because otherwise why Disney released them on 4K. There's so many different rumors or like lies and stuff like that when it comes to like what release and stuff.
I don't think we'll ever get like the true release again with everything to do. Because there's money there's money in Star Wars and I think the kind of release will bring it like something out and say okay I get this extra like special extra 10 seconds of like I'm going to use it with double the hoods. The cut off without saying back as well. But so bad as well.
He's on the tail. Yeah, that's not good. But yeah, like I just like instantly fell in love with this. I think like you were saying Paul this was probably my first like sci-fi movie, but I also like used to watch like the classic things like the 18 and stuff like you know adventure TV programs and my dad liked it had that very much like vibe along with like Indiana Jones and stuff like that.
This is like a proper adventure. Like crazy stuff's happening. There's like weird like characters and weird animals everywhere and like we're swinging on ropes and we're you know chopping people with like lights here is which I now realize is like a samurai sword because we're also doing samurai shit. It was kind of like everything that I was set like destined to love just combined in the long package.
Again, like going back now and say that the changes that have made. It's a big difference to like I said original trilogy which again is what I found with as a kid and I say as it's pure as form. And same as Lee I probably watched episode one what was what's now called episode four and a new hope it was just called Star Wars back then. There was no one this new hope straight.
I went to the drop that actually like a title. I can't remember now but it was always Star Wars. I think I don't know if you got a year after the original or something like that. When they realized that we can make another one so we need to like start the title and start the title.
But I think it must be not like watching a new hope on ITV like to have sat down. Like you I absolutely loved it. Like it's strange because when you watch it now with certain Star Wars films that you watch when you're younger and you think this is me like when I was kid my favorite was Return of the Jedi because I love the Ewoks was amazing. But when I watch it back now it is probably more cringy one at times because it's slow as well isn't it the start because like last time I tried to watch it I fell asleep.
But because it's very like movie at the start and like quiet. I think that's when Lucas start realizing the Martin aspect and start adding stuff into like to sell stuff or what they could get from. It's a big issue. But yeah.
And like I said that was then the Martin side and that's where basically the bridge from Return of the Jedi and like I said episode one at the Phantom Menace you can kind of see like where Lucas was kind of putting the pieces together and say this is why I'm going to just technology wasn't quite there to do like have his vision by this time. But I actually adore now like it is still an up there with one of my favorite from the Empire Strike back like the scenes in that movie is so iconic like the battle the hoth is just like spectacular and it looks mesmerizing against like the whites nor when you see like the that's coming over from the horizon like the camels and stuff. It's just like it's futuristic as best and then you get like say the. Probably the second best lightsaber fight in the saga between Vera and Luke makes it towards the end of the takes his hand because I'll actually as much as I shit on the originals the Darth Maul fight in the minutes is the greatest lightsaber fight.
In my opinion a lot of people might disagree but I think they get everything right with that one from like music feel that don't rush at the time. But again, like I said with Empire it's like the fight between Luke and Vera is just so emotional it's so powerful and because I was left with the flat with the fight that the lightsaber fight and you hope between all be one. Yeah, because you think it's going to be one that saves everything and he in a way does because he sets everything in motion but the fight is just like it's kind of reminiscent the one we get with Luke later on. Someone's made the wrong version of that fight and YouTube and it's amazing right and it's like them to like full powered like this should be like last night's eyes and it's like fast paced there's like loads of force moves being used and it's lethal.
I don't know what this is the old man like I'm gonna steal like everyone's like silly force. So I know I'm just pretty good at like whistle top to like why I see it kind of things I enjoyed from like city films but what are the stand out for you as like the Green Goblin now Chris. Right. Oh no sorry I'm just listening to you I'm like yeah.
No no I wasn't saying I'm too many Eucharist tell us what you love about the walls. Like what's your like I kind of like the things that stand out for you type thing. I totally agree and let's say my in episode one fight and my favourite is Richard I go. I know I know you're saying that I used to be when you younger like E box but I like the Ranko Han Solo's free Leon bra so like fit you want to dies.
I know what you're putting in the air in the bra like kind of just to get strength so we didn't miss it as a kid you thought I was interested. Yeah. We did. I was more worried about the Sarlach.
I mean like the thing is with like the that layer outfit like it's always shows up as like it's the nerds ultimate fantasy but like when you actually watch it like it's not. Like it's not like a sexy scenes like it's just next to a giant slug. I like the whole seal ball team. It's not particularly in a bra it's a whole scene where people get annoyed at the end and the boy R2 D2 is like hang on I got like to write to you.
Yeah I think that's amazing. I see Vida's AK as well. Oh yeah we take off the mask and you see it's really hard Monica. I didn't realise this and at the end I didn't realise that the change in Pahid and Christiansen.
Yes. That's right. It was the first time I watched it today and I was like what the fuck happened to you. Yeah.
You know like it didn't it used to be a different guy here and then the people started dragging you out the roof. That kind of just leave it on. That kind of leads us on to something that we can talk about as well as like I know we brushed on it a little bit when we talked about the original code. There have been so many different changes in versions of Star Wars now it's hard to know like if you were like a novice going into it and saying which is like building a cut which one like six I know Lucas was very.
He was never happy he was never like sitting down with everything and he was always adding like little special effects. What he thought was enhancing the movie but was like kind of killing it a little bit of time and all I noticed there was a release on Blu-ray for the first time that I was that much of a Belinda is the bite on every single format I used to come out on the Blu-ray wasn't more that they added extra scenes the other extra sound effects and change sound effects in that caught me totally off guard. The two big ones is Return of the Jedi I don't know if you noticed this in the original cuts when you've got Luke being electrocuted by the Emperor Palpatine and Vedas like deciding what to do whether to protect Luke or to kick out to let him do his little like. Yeah he's doing his little like.
In the new cut in the new cut the put sound of like the other one. No. No. No.
I was like why have you done that? I think it's like absolutely ridiculous and again they've done funny little sound effects as well. The famous thing about left in is when it's stormtrooper bangs at head before there wasn't a sound effect now does it point. The back sound effect and I've been doing different screens for like the sand people as well.
So when they're saying that part the change the weird noise that we want makes me like. It's kind of like the unfinished cuts it's like things that they're trying to do to enhance it as well. I really don't like when people mess around with audio because you know like what you were saying Lee, where you're like I could recite like the vocal like you know the lines of the movie because you hear like that same thing over and over again. Like yeah, that's the most jarring thing like you can add an extra visual in and I may or may not notice but if you change like music or a voice line like suddenly I'm like what's that.
What's wrong with this company? I just did something mess up. Do you guys have what you consider a different version like as in like like Paul was saying like how would you recommend someone watch this like I think like if you could possibly get a hold of like 90. So I guess the DVD cut isn't too bad.
Like the one you were talking about that had the extra disk like that's what I'd maybe try and recommend people watch like the sort of the one that they brought out like around that time. So went back to the cinema didn't it in like the early 2000s and so. And I've had a few cinemas like it was a very release then when I went to see it like I went to see a new hope with the extra job. So just just enough just before they brought out the silver and the gold VHS box set that was one that's with the edits.
That was a got a cinema run so they brought all the films out. They've done it every six months to work for like sort of new walk, then empire, then return and that led to make it the pre goes as well. The last cinema run was quite interesting because it was getting redone in 3D. So they brought out a new hope in 3D that didn't get a good reception.
So they kind of scrapped that after the new hope and know what they've just done last year. Last year, the last year before when the pandemic hit when they're trying to get people back in the cinemas they've done another rave release to try and get people back in the cinema to see like star wars or films that you haven't seen before. So that was that was good thing. But with these movies as well, they are and me isn't on the big screen like don't get as wrong.
There's some films that you watch in the house and you can enjoy you can enjoy these but these have to pull different level when you're in the cinema experiencing on the big screen as well. I don't think there should be a definitive edition for everyone to be there. So what's the film? What's the Tarantino film at the briefcase?
The fiction. Oh, fiction. And everyone's like, oh, what's in the briefcase? Tarantino says, I'm not going to stop was here.
Like the last thing I'm watching the briefcase and he's like, whatever the viewer wants to be in the briefcase because then everyone has their own story. And since I've heard him say that, I see loads of films differently where people are like, oh, no, this isn't right. Like, especially with Star Wars, everyone has their own version that is their definitive version. And I think changing things is brilliant because it keeps people talking about it.
If someone's like, oh, that's not what I was film. Like, oh, when Vila's doing this and it's like, oh, that wasn't an original, you know what? And it causes good conversation and like nerdy talk and it's perfect. Yeah, right.
Cause even if like when Paul was like saying the no thing, I was like, oh, I hate that. But in my mind, it was like, I hate it. And then I went back to like thinking about what I prefer and like, it leads you back to like, oh, I still love this thing. Even if I have changed it.
What you wanted to get preferred like in Empire Strikes Back to your preferred the CGI version that I've done in the new ones. But the other thing, the pool was class. Oh, he's not CGI in Empire, is he? I thought that was just in Phantom Menace where the change.
I don't think I've changed some things. Haven't they new ones? I think I've added a few scenes where he jumps on looks back and stuff like that. But again, that was a jarring for me to see Master Yoda.
Like, I think it was an episode two when we see Master Yoda like hobble along and then suddenly go on to fight more and start doing some of the backflips. That's broad. One for Grandpa Jonas as well. Like, I can figure like figure what he's doing.
But again, it's when you like, because if you try and be too clever with this type of thing and starting, oh, like, the can't do that. I think we're talking about like a movie set in space where there's like wars and a magical force. It's like you can dispense a little bit of belief and just like turn your brain off and say this doesn't have to make total sense. It's not like fun.
Yeah, it's not hard sci-fi. It's actually close at like fantasy. Like really, like when you think about it. Because like there's lots of stupid things like you know how like other sci-fi shows like the Expanse and stuff and like trick.
Like they've got like the science like nailed down, you know, like technical manuals and all that stuff. Whereas Star Wars is just like a bunch of weird stuff just like crammed together. They don't have television. They don't have like paper.
Like the universe doesn't make sense. It's like they have to farm moisture from the desert to survive. It's just like loads of it's interesting though. Like leave us in.
It gets you like your imagination, like running like wild. But like if you try and which is what they do with now, if you try and intercollect all the lore in the movies into like cohesive thing, like it fights you every step of the way. Because everyone's like, but you said it's been beaten in 12 parsecs and then this ships faster than the Millennium Falcon. So that means the Millennium Falcon is too slow.
It's just like it starts getting muddy with no light. Everything Star Wars is mental. Like it's difficult to realise why people actually like it this much. It's just so fun.
There's nobody in these films that people can really be like, oh really relate to that space wizard. Well that's smuggling all the giant walking carpets. I have a fun connection with Chewy. I understand how he speaks.
I know how he fails on a daily basis with him. I'm on the day with Han Solo and like I say I'm constantly like beating up my ship. I'm trying to keep fixed. That's interesting.
That's interesting. It is pure fun. It is pure joy. You just like to see it watch and experience as well.
That's the thing. And I think now because a lot of people are getting so much Star Wars and so many different integrations of it. I don't think that's a bad thing because it's like literally Star Wars for anyone. So you can literally pick up and go, oh, I want to watch a older one.
Oh, I want to watch a skeleton crew. Oh, I want to watch a man to learn. Oh, I want to go back and watch the original three. Oh, I'll watch like a force of wagons and stuff like that.
Literally there is Star Wars for everyone. And I think that's just, like I said, when you get like the level of content. And again, might not fall on like safe, like be for me. And again, that's not bad.
You don't have to watch everything to kind of keep up or keep with the continuity. Yeah. There's certain things that like thing, oh, that's a little nod for you. If you don't get it, it's not going to spoil your experience.
And I think that's always been a good thing. The only thing, as you said, with like the concept, I love the idea of the fantasy. It's when they're trying to be to clever and change it a little bit and try and bring it into the real world. When they start trying to explain things like the force with the midi chlorines and like I was like, no, it's a mythical force.
It's not genetics, please. I don't need to beg for that. I'd like to give you the ancient prophecies of chosen, chosen ones who's come to like a nickname on where the system makes things right. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Like you're right, though. I think like it's just whatever's in the movies and like, you know, whichever parts you might like or here, it's just kind of whatever George like this was interested in for that like, you know, once when he was making like, like, what he was writing the script. More than sort of anything, I would say, it's like, it really is one guy's vision.
Like, there's like, he definitely has like writers and stuff like people that help them, but for a long time, he was like, you know, the law people, like you would have to ask George if you wanted to do something or put something weird in your script, it would be like ran past him. He stepped back from that now only just though, like he was still doing it on like the Disney cartoons and stuff like that. Yeah. So like, that's kind of that might be why it's a bit inconsistent because he's just like, I want to make a pirate story.
I want to, you know, like, I want to do like this ship is now even better than any ship you've ever seen before. Like, where did it get built? I don't care. It just shows up.
Like, it's like that kind of thing. But that's the fun aspect. I don't look what I do a little bit about Star Wars as well as the tier risks to try things up like other franchises or things like we're from like even in the early days, like people still talk about it as one of the worst Christmas specials ever made. But it's out there.
You can you can watch it now. I think it was on Disney Close for a little bit. I don't know if it was. I've never watched it, but I've seen like clips and I think I think Carrie Christian might have been on down as opposed to it.
It's like Lee says, it's crazy. Like you walk on that set and there's like three rookies including like Lumpy, Q back his son, then you probably just stand in there on the sound stage being like, uh, I think it's more like things like Bob effects. Like it's like that's where Bob effects are becoming like a big character because of the Christmas special. I wonder it is.
I like that there are people given law to some other people, but there's ones where I don't need law. Like there's way to much backstory of things. Right. Who is the Xbox?
This guy? Prince Charles without his face on his boss. I don't know who he is. He's about to be on that.
That's right. Just standing up on the balcony and yes. And also one who's wrote a whole like 50 million page backstory for him. And it's like, I don't care.
He was just a background character. He's called boss. He's a trans ocean. It's a lizard people who are good on it.
I just know. So he's got a mask. As Lee just came on the show. If he's new found a collectable starwalk.
Yeah, because I found in the attic. They're just like, you know, the week when I got them off my ground and I completely forgot about it until I got these. Probably like principal skin and women. Didn't you like the role here?
I'm still planning on how to get them from Lee's house to mine. No, that's the thing. That's a shocker. Oh, you want that in?
Yeah. Yeah. It was one of the prizes. Yes.
Take it out of its box. Yeah. It's disappointed looking at Rosar. You know, Dorsey and every once favorite.
No, but I think everyone kind of does have like some star wars of merchandise came about as well. I think I was looking. I don't know if I do. I still can all be tassels as well, man.
Oh, that's what I like. Yeah. I've got some of that. Yeah.
No, you can't just brandish that at us. I like to. I had a little green one. It's like a human.
It's a realistic special effect. I don't have a bit of one stream. So yeah, that'll be one. I'm here to try and core.
Oh, it is. It's got your peds dispenser. Oh, yeah. Actually, yeah.
How does everyone feel about droids? Because when I was a kid, C3PO was one of my favorite characters because he just won the C1 does about any kind of says the things that are normal. I was like, what's everyone talking about? Like, like Starships Jedi?
He's like, I just want an oil bath. Like, he's like kicking out to D. Duke's getting like a noise. He's like, yeah, I found him relatable because I was like, yeah, this crutch of the old robot just wants to go.
What's there a Mitch in M2D to just swearing? Like all the time? What's not these names? Kenny Baker.
Kenny Barber. I had a driver, didn't it? Yeah. Kenny Barber.
I don't know how Anthony Daniels survived in that outfit as well. That's the thing. That would have been horrible to never get. He hated it.
Apparently, everyone used to believe in one set in that outfit. He was kind of. Yeah, what's everyone's favorite droid then? Because there's too many pick from, but everyone was at least one.
There's always some fun ones. Well, I loved about the movies as well. The droids kind of had their own personal. Like all of them, like each of them.
Like, even when you go on a comic, which one it was where, and it's like the torture and the droids as well. Yeah, that's a gunk. The little battery guys who are like, gunk. Like just with the two legs at the bottom.
Oh, but no, it's weird when I was younger. I loved three-sebuter. I really loved them. I loved the figure.
It was one of your favorite figures to have. The annoying thing is I did have an original R2, like not the original original, but of course like 20,000 pounds now. I had one where I think if you had the green, if you get the one with the green pop up, it's worth a couple of grand. I had the blue one and I used to go to it in the bath.
So I completely ruined that now. So it's worth it was worth this. Probably his favorite was a three-sebuter. Surprisingly, even though when you're watching now in the prequels, he is so irritating.
Even in the new one, he's like, why are you being a dick now? But as you said in the original three, he was the only one that spoke since. And you were like, just listen to him. He's telling you what the fox is going on.
What you should be doing. He's never telling me the odds. He's right. What about you, Lee?
Who's my favorite droid creep? I mean, I think I loved R2 because he was so cool. Even though he didn't know what he was saying. But three people would always be like, R2, you can't say that.
And you knew he was saying something bad. And I had another droid, the little white and orange one, where the fire in it from the... I can't what other little people called... The cell was a son, and I'd always be like, seeing him trying to come forward.
He'd be like, fuck off. You know what I mean? Character, get away with R2. I would never play with this little orange, orange white droid.
Who are R4? Do you know in the expanded universe books, they reveal that R4 is four sensitive of that droid. And he blew up his own head so that the universe would get the right droid in Luke's hands. That's some deep love for you.
That Lee only plays with main characters. Is that what Lee's saying? He's like, fuck the side characters. That's why he hates Basque.
It was all about the main characters, but then as a kid it was like, oh my god, Luke Skywalker's the best knell that I've ever seen. I have to admit, I have to admit, I have to admit, I want to go and pick up some power converters. With the neutral jubo got the Force Awakens stuff. I did love Baby Eight.
I've got a little baby in here. It's actually more control of that. Don't make us bring up the kneel to grasp the ice and tweet. It comes off its magnet.
So it links up to your form and it actually rolls about your house so you can move it around. They tried real hard with the Mark of the Muck of the Muck of the Muck of the Muck of the Muck of the Muck. It worked, I think. There was even a thing where he does a thumb up with a little white note.
That was so cheesy, yes. I tried, but Chris, what were you saying? I was just, do you not remember the kneel to grasp the ice and tweet about Baby Eight? It was like, it's physically impossible for Baby Eight to go and stand.
He's getting all over. Doing this, everyone just said, shut up. It's like, the only reason that we can't class Pluto was a planet. We hate you.
It's fine. I love the other girls' tastes. You're going to say I love to meet you. That's the last thing you made about a film being scientifically in that race because of all that he got.
I don't care if those people are up there trying to mind the place, like in Rick and Morty. Just ask a question then. If we talk about droids, can we class Darth Vader as a droid? Because technically he's mostly robot.
He's more cyber-gooden-y. I mean, is it a cyber-droid? Would you class Robo-cut as a droid? A cyber-droid?
Yeah, I mean, he's less emotional than a droid because he's trying real hard to be crushed all of my emotions. And I hate my son. I think he's probably on a lesser rung than a droid because I see two-be-odd feelings. He was like, a sympathetic thing.
I was going to say three-sape-odd more feelings in the theater at times as well. Did you guys watch that Obi-Wan series? Because that's probably the biggest dip back into the OG trilogy lore we've had for a long time. I know a lot of people give it here online, but I actually really enjoyed it.
I thought it added to it because people hated it a little later. That was the one thing that people didn't like about it. But I didn't irritate me as much as people. I enjoyed the aspect.
And seeing Vader being rid of us, what people don't realise when we watch back the original trilogy. You see very little of Darth Vader and what he's capable of. Kind of he fock, he kinky jokes a few people with a false joke and stuff like that. But he doesn't really show why people are so terrified of him.
Well, they're not terrified of him because that guy in the board, it was just like a crappy religion. It's like, this is a space station. He gets the balls out of that guy. What is it?
Is it a talking that tells him to stop? And he tells him to fuck it in. And Vader's one of the most powerful people in the galaxy. He's not like, it's a mate.
I'll do whatever I want. No, he's his old mate from the Clone Wars. That's the story there. Because he's like a horrible guy.
And then he's like, oh, that Anakin Scarrock. He likes to cut corners and disobe the rules. Like his style. Something that just friends because they're ourselves.
But I quite like when, like, say there will be one series where we say Vader go in full Vader because we've got glimpses. Yeah. And like when he's like rex up that town and he's like pulling people through windows and stuff like that was really cool. I think it was just weird for them to do like the, like a proper Obi-Wan Vader fight.
I know like some fans will want to see it, but I think it was like, it was just a bit weird because I don't know if we needed to see that. So I don't think it added anything for me. But yeah, the part where he was like a horror movie character. Like what awesome.
I think with a lot of the new stuff as well, like the kind of trying to give you extra for certain characters. I know like Vader's, Vader's one. But then when you go back to like, say the Mandalorian and they try to give you a little bit because I'm not saying Luke's legacy has been tarnished in a way because when we got the new films and we expected to see Luke's guy, we're all kind of the way we all wanted and remembered. We didn't kind of get that.
But don't let me up in with that. Cause I've loved like Luke acting exactly like Yoda acted because like that's who taught him. He didn't really have any Jedi teachings. He doesn't know much about Jedi stuff because he never, he only got ghosts about it.
That's what I'd be careful with me. It wasn't quite what I was hoping for when we kind of got to see Luke and we wanted to see Luke versus like, can we all can at least all agree that worst Luke is the one who's like, now Grongo can either have a lightsaber or some Mandalorian armor or I'm going to have to kick you out. It's like, what are you even talking about? It kind of like, it made the whole Luke return, not seen any special, but it kind of like took the gloss off a little bit.
Cause yeah, it was cool when he like when he killed all of the droids at like the end of the first season. Like that was, that was a cool moment. That was like proper hype and especially how they did it where I didn't reveal who it was, but you knew because he had one black blurb and you're like, it's going to be, but you didn't really know. Cause I think cause you were late cause the lead up to that was done so well cause there was rumors online that we were going to get a Jedi.
I think the announced we were getting a Jedi at the end of that season and that was the whole does and kept on saying it was going to be this person, there was going to be that person who was even talking about it got to be the Jedi from the game. What was the game called? Cal Kestor. Cal Kestor.
Cal Kestor. That was the one. The one that got the ball to go Luke. Luke is a big guy with anything Mandalorian.
Yeah. And the wentful Luke and his sorum being like badass. And again, that corridor scene. Oh, like that whole season, like I wish like everything that followed the Mandalorian was up to that level, but Jesus Christ, that end episode.
I'm not like, you saw all these videos of people watching the crying. I was crying. I couldn't believe that they got everything so right. And I think I've had this comment before.
I know it's quite rich saying this on an all that boy podcast where they did on the Avengers end game where they had the women power where all the females who came together and fought the armies and it was kind of felt forced when they did this on the Mandalorian where they had the like, the she who should not be near now. And like I said, Sasha Banks and the others kind of grouping together. And I'm like, I'm sure and how bad I was like the female fighters in Star Wars was, but it wasn't round down your throat. It happened naturally and it was a good floor to it.
So it was kind of like, Oh, this is amazing. This is what I really wish they did with the Avengers type thing. But kind of. Because those were like the people he picked up on like all of his old missions, wasn't it?
All of his friends had to come together. Even Boba Fett was there hanging about in the ship like running interference and stuff. Is she who should not be named the the both you have to fight a woman or something? Yeah, I don't know what a character was called or anything.
That's a problem. It's not a problem. It's just me and Chris like to make one of like the names that kind of ridiculous and hard to keep. Yeah.
To be fair. If we were in Star Wars world, I don't think we would get Chris out of the container. I think he would just be sitting there with all his little little mates. I would love that.
I'm freaking me blue, Bill. You would be there as well. You would be there as well. You don't like you.
Be careful. Interesting question as well. So see what this was a fantasy game or we were in the Star Wars universe. What kind of character or person would you be?
Would you be part of the Rebel Alliance with Chris being a well, though? Would he be the one that's part of the contractors that's building the death star? I was. Do you know what we obviously we first thought was out be salacious grump.
You know who built the death star? It wasn't well. There's like it was those bug creeps from the cool ones we make. So what are the call the G and Oceans?
The flying guys. The would have had some independent conduct is that weren't fully Federation standard. I would say they would just be. It's in and or.
G notions built the space station and then then had to have had to have other people build the weapon apparently. All right. And then the empire genocide of the bug people. That's.
Bad people. Everyone you don't want to address it was a storm shoe. So who would you be? What kind of person person I was?
I was like, I'm not sure. You don't want to address it was a storm shoe. So who would you be? What kind of person personal would you be in the Star Wars?
I wouldn't be on the good side. Like, you know what? Honestly, like, I used to be like, oh, yeah, Jedi is out. I love them.
But then it's like as a new one to come on and you find out, like, oh, no, I don't have any feelings. Don't love anyone or anything like that. Absolutely. If you were like.
I don't know the force powers. You'd be going around like stealing everything and doing whatever you want. Like, you probably just don't remember the scene because it wasn't added in and like, and they can talk in a Padme gun. This is the dong you're looking for.
I don't know. I think it's gonna do whatever the one. I thought you just used this angel line to get in there. I wouldn't be going that far.
You want to take that first thing in there? It only works on the week I might have to remember. Padme was pretty strong. Strong, strong world.
Yeah, so we had the nine-two-five, so they were looking after the little cable. Do you guys like the Sith? Like the Jedi? Yeah, I always thought they were quite cool.
But now you get no other than you watch it back. You always realise that Han Solo was the probably the cooler character because he was the one that blurred the lines. Han Solo's not cool, man. I was just like, don't you dare kiss that brother rather than kissing him, man.
Don't you dare call Han Solo a bitch. But that was the thing that Luke does as well. Like that... You thought Han was cool up until half way through the Empire Strike back, and then he's made Lando comes in.
He's just like, he, he's just like, promise me with Black guy, that's just, he's got it. And he's just like, yeah, Billy D Williams is cool anyway. Yes, I accept Billy D Williams is amazing in Lando. And I think the realised how good that character was in Empire Strike back, because I had him as a bigger role in Return the Jedi, Return the Jedi, yes.
Yeah, because he was a bastard in Empire, and then he got to be a hero finally. Kind of giving him his... Like, like, like, like, Lando has a whole cloud city that he like runs and owns. It's just a castle, man.
Han Solo basically lives in his car. But you know, basically, he's like the CEO of, like, Eon or something of British gas. He's just sat there on his stupid gas city. So, now you've mentioned the vehicle.
So, what is the Millennium Falcon, the greatest star... greatest vehicle in pop culture? That's a piece of Jon. It is, but...
I don't actually like the shape of it. If I'm going for like Star Warships, like the X-Wing. Right. And you go for the pop culture?
The DeLorean. The DeLorean just absolutely smashes the Millennium Falcon at the backman. But the both... Oakley vehicles, or, aren't they?
Yeah, but the DeLorean works. Yeah, it's much more windowing it as well. So the Millennium Falcon can go on at a light speed. The DeLorean goes 66 miles an hour.
Right. Yeah, but the Millennium Falcon, if you're like, oh, let's have a race to the other side of the galaxy. The DeLorean could drive there and then just time travel back to beat the Millennium Falcon like five seconds before it arrives. And we're like, yeah, I win.
But I only need to... The next 10-10-10 gigawatts to do it. That's why you need the power converter. Go to a Joshi station or whatever.
What did you think of that solo movie that like expanded on the lore? Even lore of the Millennium Falcon, the ship. Because you saw it had an escape pod like latched at that front part where there was always a gap. And it's like, okay, so that you'd never replace that.
It's like, this robot became the ship computer. Like the droid that he saw at that Lando kind of fancy became the ship brain. It's like, oh, I don't know if I needed to know this about the Millennium Falcon either. Like, they've definitely got a problem with adding too much lore.
Like, where it doesn't belong so far. Like, did you like solo? Like, overall? I thought it was a good movie.
I think the problem with solo is the stuff that came out before and after solo. So it kind of tarnished it a little bit. Because there is a whole solo movie that's never been released. Literally the movie was filmed.
The thought was garbage. And they got run Howard in to redo it. Well, this originally said we kind of redo it and went, no, this is garbage. So the reshot whole movie.