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Fiddle juice. It's your dad. Hello, and I forgot where I was there for a second. Hello, and welcome to the Nelly of North Podcast.
It's a Nelly podcast hosted by Northern nerds. I am one of your hosts, Sam. And I am the host Paul. And we are joined by a very special guest.
So tonight we are joined by a lady that describes herself as a social scientist, a recovering Catholic. She is a history hall of herself, the host of the History Podcast, who did what now? We have the amazing Katie Charwood. Yay!
So thank you for joining us. Like I said, we've been a big fan for a while. Like I've been trying to get all the nerds to actually listen to your podcast as well. Just as I said, it's something different to what I've experienced before, especially the XA and the nerd community as well.
But I just love the way you tell us. But before we start as well, tell us a little bit about your nerd credentials there, Katie. My nerd credentials, well, are you still on a comic book store? And at one point, I actually had the only female comic book store in Ireland.
Oh, interesting. Well done. Which is less exciting than it sounds. But yeah, I've been reading comics since, well, have you got the beat of the dad dance since I was able to read?
I will count them. I still think I'll work. I still get the buttons in a really every Christmas of somebody. And I used to set watching video, watching my brother's play video games because I wasn't allowed because I'm not.
And then whenever they left, and you want to do because I've been watching them. So it was good. Yeah. I, I, I, I, I, I, I was sad.
Some of said, some of said, some of said, um, people who know me. And I just, I looked over and I just realized that I'm looking at a card to smog. And I was like, Oh, yeah, I've got to talk to us. It's where I keep my pens.
Oh, yes. You need a pen mug as well though. So yes. So you've been podcasting for how long now?
So how long has it been? Three years. So I've only really kind of got promptly into it in the last year or so just because of everything, everything that happened. Like I had equipment break.
I had, I had life stuff happen. I separated with like, during the pandemic, I split with my kids that. And so like, I've changed. I've changed.
So lots of stuff happened. And everything could have had to settle. And it's good. Him and I are so good though.
He actually, when I actually sold my comic book store to him. All right. So kept it in the family type. Yeah.
So we're like, we will be joking with my best friends. I said, well, I just, I'm his best friend because he has no friends and I was only friends. So I was just like, so bi proxy type thing that you kept in there. So could I just said you start three years ago?
So was it during the pandemic? You started with what? If you like it, I kind of start the podcast. I had to do something to stop myself going crazy because I had to close my shop.
And I just, I, because we couldn't have people in and it was going to delivery. So my ex, he was kind of covering that side of it. And I needed to do something to go to the point where I couldn't bake anymore banana bread. And I had to figure out what to do.
Actually, sorry, just a silly little thing. But I actually got to the interview stage for the great Irish Bake Off and it's first year. What? It's so rad, but I was like, I mean, I, I could bake, but I just, I was like, this is actually a funny thing to slip in.
I'm a, I'm a, I'm a wield. Many thinkers and many pies person. I'm just the pun. But yeah.
So, cause I know it's just something. Certainly. No, it's similar to us. Same with those exactly the same story with us.
Yeah. So we started up the nerdy of North Facebook community first of all, because we would miss having them type of conversations with fellow nerds or fellow, like just your friends. Like, you know when you would go up and argue. Or I watched like this film, Why Did You Enjoy?
Like, but I'm in Superman. We used to have that argument so much time and that we can be friends in the book. And I kind of like missed that. And then one of my friends, I've told this story so many times now on this podcast, put a post about introducing the son and daughter to the goonies for the first time and did it like a picture by picture, like when, like when first time seen Slop, when he rips the Superman t-shirt and like everything that was just experienced in like in brand new eyes.
You guys. So it was kind of like, I needed that kind of like interaction, that kind of talk. And then we started the group. We originally just want to do articles on the website until some of you went all aggressive and went doing a podcast.
And I was like, okay. She was like, I don't know how to do a podcast. You're going to learn. So kind of.
Pretty much a conversation we had. And I want to do this. And you have to figure out how we do this. He's very looked at the start with.
But look where we are now. Yes. And we have a little bit of a kitty who has just brought it into the top 10 podcasts on that all as well recently as if my information is correct or is that we got just read on my. No, that I was number one in the States for a couple days.
A couple days. I was like ready to collapse just before you pause. I'm coming now. Yeah, I was number one in the States that came in islands.
I didn't know there was anybody actually on the. I thought it was just like hedgehogs or like. I'm going to be living in an island. So it'll be my.
It'll be my time. So I'm trying to down to be going to really down to be cool for some reason. Apparently they like me and trying to down to be cool. But like I was number two and then on like Spotify, I was like number two on the history chart number.
And for Australia for the US number three in Canada. I was like number three in Ireland on Apple. I got five in the UK. Like I just it was it was the week of the month of the laundry where I just hit.
Wow. And that was a really difficult that was actually months of preparation. It doesn't seem like everything has to get fact checked and everything has to get. Especially when it's something that's so serious and a lot of my medical sometimes cuts in the middle of the.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I know somebody called me work to you like more and I was like. Do you know what I mean? I mean, I still getting investigated today.
I know it's like. Ah, but it was things where I was just and then that just kind of it actually doubled my lesson. I was like, well, it works sometimes. But yeah, it's because sometimes I would get I ever started off and I actually had like 40 people listening in the beginning and I was so excited.
Because I actually studied history sciences. When I went back as a machine student, I initially was studying over here in Ireland. I was I went to do culinary arts and business. So basically you learned to cook, but also go to economics.
It was very fun. Really? It was very when in beer studies was nice. Everything else was just a pain in the arts.
And I was like, I don't want to do this. This is the wrong commercial. I made a mistake and so I fucked off to Europe for a week. I was like, I was like, let's live in Amsterdam.
I live in Amsterdam for a year. Just a whole other story and ended up going back to mature students in Scotland because you could go back at 21. Whereas in Ireland, you have to wait to go to 23. So I was like, great.
So I always loved history. I always loved stuff like that. So I did. So like history, sociology, psychology, politics, philosophy.
And then I had to redo English in maths actually because they didn't understand the Irish credentials. I had. So I was like, that would be different. And so then I did it and I was like, oh, let's do this.
Let's talk about Shakespeare and shit. Fine. I'm not a big maths person, but somehow did very well in this maths course. I don't know if it was remedial, but whatever it was.
We allowed to use a Calcle. That could answer a few questions as well. I was studying it and I loved it. And that was actually how I got into graphic novels because I was studying psychology and because I was mainly doing psychology.
Sociology, sociology, history, those are my three main after I dropped everything else. And then I basically chopped psychology and I was like, history and sociology is where it's at, but they're all interconnected. And it's like, one of the reasons why I call myself a social scientist is because hi, I'm kitty. And as a guy, I'm a story and a sociologist was something about going into psychology and social geography as a fucking mouthful to be honest.
Yeah. So I feel like when I say the video is when you put them out, like, I don't know how you do it because I've still got a little bit of stuff from my youth as well. So I wouldn't be able to say as much as you would just get, like, when I do a live video as well, it is horrendous. Like, I literally just can't talk shit and waffle on randomly for about five minutes.
So it could not get ADHD as well. Like, partly because of that. It created like sometimes you see me go, but it's literally me. I can't even fake it, but it's just like, no.
So it's not worth it. And every capacity. And so, yeah. And so like I remember somebody said, for many years before the time, it was like, your brain is working too fast for your mouth.
and I was like, okay. And then you go like, oh, okay, this explains it. And so I just go, so sometimes I would stammer and I'll stutter a little bit. And even, even sometimes I will be like, bla bla bla bla bla.
So like that resets, like reset myself. Like I bla bla bla bla. Like, now to make a weird noise. To reset my brain, and to say in the right thing.
So I'm not just trying that, because I see so many wrong things at the wrong times. There's been times in the podcast where somebody just gives us that I look in for, don't say that. So don't let that come out of your mouth. And it comes out and it's just like, oh, we're gonna fix that.
I'm just like, so my brain is completely wired. The wrong way around. And it affects me speech to a point where I do say things that in the right context, but completely opposite thing. And the best example is rewinding fast forward.
Yeah. Everything, if I'm good, if it needs rewinding, to me it needs fast forward. And if I'm playing video games, I have to change all of the settings to wear, looking down, looking up, has to be fast to fit my brain. Yeah, that's all.
Exactly. Yeah. And my husband thinks it's absolutely bizarre, but it's just how my brain works. Cause dyslexia is not just about reading and writing.
No. My boys got their thingy as slight dyslexia. So it affects so many different parts of the effect. Yeah.
I love that I'm doing this. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, what's it like? You've got my fingers, like, because I have an anxiety thing that I kind of like playing with during the podcast.
And I'm looking for it now. Because you all do with that. I'm not like, I'm not like, I'm not. I'm not.
Then I'm gonna stuff is like, don't touch everything. I get that as well. So when you start the podcast as well, did you know that you wanted to go on the history route? Or was it just basically, was that the idea?
And did you not die? History was always bad. So my area of expertise in history is the rise of sensationalism and use of principal began to end the late modern period. No, that's a bit.
No, that is something you can tell practice. No. And the reason that is because when I was playing propaganda, really interested, like I always, I always found that really fascinating concept. And so I actually, when I was in secondary school, my history, my elective history, sort of essay that's part of your continuous assessment was literally on film is propaganda.
And World War I, like that was my area. And then I sort of just sort of let on from there. Clearly I had a passion. And so, and because I grew up between like Scotland and Ireland, I grew up two different cultures.
It doesn't seem like a different culture, but it's a different culture. And a lot of the history that you get taught on one side and getting taught on the other, it's the same story, but it's told from different angles. And somewhere in the middle is the truth. And that's why I find that, particularly me, if I'm talking about any history that involves Ireland and Britain, that I'm sort of a perfect person to discuss it, because I'm from both.
Yeah. Like I kind of have a stake in the game, but I don't. You know what I mean? And I'm good at being that balanced and being objective in that way.
And other people seem to think that history, in order to be objective, you have to be neutral. No. And that's not the case. Because it's, I heard about it, trying to get something that isn't too bad, bad enough to, let's talk about the Mags and the Lordry because that's really bad, but it's, you can look at that and go, hey, maybe, maybe abusing 14 year old girls who were assaulted as a bad thing.
Yeah. You can go that subjectively bad. Not neutral on it because I'm fucking pissed off about it. People, what history, you can't have an opinion, it's facts, not, it's basically depends on who's telling these facts or where the facts are coming from.
But that's why I always love about your podcast, because I know I'm going to sound like a proper fanboy, because I do. I know that. I'm going to start you as well. You always know.
I know. I know. I know the best and the best. But yeah, I know it's like, this is, this is the sources.
And this is where, like, actually, you're given credence to not just telling these stories. So people wanted to go back and like, if they want to be a think about, in fact, check you. It's there. And I know people will do it because people are dicks.
Yeah, you can see. I have a really good somebody left me at like a three star review on Apple Podcasts. And I remember it's because I was like three stars is a weird number. People usually go one or five, right?
Yeah. Or sometimes I'll get like a two star review and like the audio socks and it's like from an episode from like two years ago and I'm like, of course it sucks. You're learning what we were doing. Yeah.
I didn't even know what the button said. Somebody had to send me a cheat sheet. I figured out how well that's it works. And so like somebody left a review and they were just like, I was like, if she didn't list her sources, I would assume she was like, virtue signaling bullshit.
And I was like, thank you. It's like, I would have assumed this if she didn't back up with, you know, evidence and I'm like, what's the fucking dead like? We found the only bad reviews we found. It's one just put this was shit.
So I was like, all right, then it was probably episode seven or something and where we didn't even know how we were. I was way made the mistake of our first episode. We forgot to press the record one thing. What we thought we'd done.
And we're like, Oh, look, we just recorded out. No, no, we haven't. We have to do it all again and completely fake because at the time when we first started, we did top five's. So we'd be like the top five, for example, that was the top five movies, had a fake.
I didn't think you would pick that movie. My GCSE drama course was really coming into play that day. Please don't please if you watch any of our episodes, go on go back to number one. It is her personal podcast.
I have to watch it now. I'm going to be like, I'm going to be sitting there with like a little drum because I like straight ground. I've been going to get into it for the pirate. And so I'm running into it as like cake as well, especially a lot of the other people.
Yeah. I'm on a... Oh, no, no. Oh, I won't.
I will start singing that song forever now. Please. Oh, wow. Oh, wow.
I'm chatting with the lyrics now. I was just like, when you're on a joke for my fire. It's one of Jake's favorite films. So Jake will be screaming in the comments and all that.
It is my goal to get some of the the singing on the episode. I'm having many episodes we've done. It's not happened yet. Come close a few times.
That's what I did. And that's what I did at college too. I'm on many stage before. Yeah.
I can just say I'm just not in a key. Anyone else seems to be familiar with. So it's new music is always changing. I don't know what you mean.
I mean, dogs can hear me. What? Can I ask about yet? So is there one that's kind of particularly apart from obviously the Maglin, the only reason is there one that's like particularly stuck with you.
Like it's really like got you to the point where you're like, I need to take a minute to like, to de-clench myself. I did the Jean-Beneit Ramsey murder case. Oh, right, okay. And the reason I did it is because they found you evidence.
And I was like, you know what? I will go through this. I can be analytical. I can't.
When you're doing a sexual autopsy report, when your sexual daughter is lying in the bed beside you. Oh my god. It's, but like, there's this, I talk about the episode actually because there's this, because you obviously the beauty queen photos, right? You're obviously those.
And I, and I remember seeing this photo of Heart of Christmas Day from your bike and she looks like such a child, like my wee girl had the same, had the same, like, blonde hair and everything. And I was watching it and I just, and I was like, this is who she is. This is a little girl who's like, and I'm a big fan of historical cream. And I thought, oh, that's the 80s.
That's far enough in the past. No, it's not. It was not far enough for me, apparently. So I do try and stay pre-1960s if possible.
For some people cover like, like what I covered. I've done Princess Diana. I listened to that episode. Which, the one which they'll want about her life, and what about her death, because that's true.
Oh, something's all about death. Yeah. I saw highly fascinated with death that I've actually read. I read a book by Dr.
Shepherd, Richard Shepherd, who is a forensic pathologist. And he did Diana's one of the pathology tests. Because it was many done. Oh, I know.
And I am, he did one of them. And then I went on and read her, oh, I can't even remember how many pages it was. 47 to 50 page autopsy. That was done originally.
And then that what he did. And oh my God, yeah, I am credit, it sounds weird. I know I understand that. I totally get it with death is my thing.
I read John Benier Ramsey's autopsy report as well. Oh, have you, what's your name? Gitlin, I've got two kittens books. Gitlin, yeah.
I've got two, yeah, yeah, yeah. So many years ago, I used to have one other one. I'm going to say, I haven't read it yet. Oh my God, so many years ago, there was this, there is still a letter called find the death.com.
I'm sure you know what that's correct. OK, so I remember back when I was in college, there it was about, I remember reading about the death. It was, if you know what I've covered in the podcast as well. But I remember the girl who survived.
And I was like, oh, I wonder if she's on Facebook. And so I looked her up, found her, and then sent her information to the guy who ran the website. And I was like, hey, I know you mentioned this. I think I found her if you want to reach out.
And I sent it. And now she, and then she wrote a book and she met him, did it on the label. She ended up going on his podcast, writing a book and stuff. And I was like, oh, it's involved.
Look at what you made happen. Yeah, I am obsessed with Kate and Dorothy, her, and Dorothy, her smoking my eyes move is absolutely incredible. Like, you don't want to leave. It's all about her starting point in the funeral set.
Yeah, is that it? No. No, from here, I'm reading that at the moment, from here to eternity. It's all about the rituals of funerals within, you know, around the world, how different they are.
And because she's always advocated for more, more of a personal funeral, as opposed to what America, it's just a money pit for the funeral service. And it blored her other book, absolutely blew my mind. I can't believe I'm getting to talk about this on the podcast. I never get a chance to talk about this.
You see someone in here, like, oh, the podcast. That's right. That's right. That's right.
That's not like, tell me about death. Yes. But now her other book, it's just the money business, the business behind the funeral service in America, in her funeral horn, where they did all the wrong cremations and everything, had a mini- cremation place on the side where people would literally just ring up, I have a dead person, okay, they pick them up, they've created them, they send them in an envelope for $100, done in Dosto, Kate, Kate, and Kip and stuff. And it's like mind blown, how different the funeral service industry is to ours.
Yeah. Did you hear about, I remember watching this girl on TikTok and her mother had donated her body to medical science. And they just like, hosted the other bits of her back when they were done. Yeah.
And it was just like, so like, just her body parts in a bag effectively. Yeah. Retardant. Oh my God, they're freaking out.
They're doing it. They're doing it. I'm a big, I'm a big, I'm a big, softly. So that's fine.
But when it ends, when it comes down to like body parts, they actually are not, they're owned by that person. So like, they would go back to that person once they would do it. Yeah. That wouldn't happen.
We wouldn't get that far. No. I understand things like body farms and stuff like that. And like, absolutely, like see what put the rest of the body on a body figure out.
Maybe like, maybe you're sending bits back in a bag. Yeah. Yeah. Just stick the argan, just Americans or just this day as well.
No, just stick the law for them. It's just completely normal. And when the body gets put to the funeral home, that's theirs then. And the family don't really have a lot to do with it, which is why she advocates a lot for how we deal with funerals where we can, we go visit, we personalize, we take them home.
Yeah. They're allowed to do that over there. They are literally with that funeral home until they are then. I've seen nip talks on all that kind of process.
Yeah. She advocates a lot for that. And obviously the decomposition, if you're not that I'm trying to think the past them anyway, when you get put into the ground and such like that. So going off to like, like I said, like I said, with that subject that you do talk about with the big, big, big controversial as well, do you get much backlash or think, because I know we've tackled a few things like the other podcast.
We've been a little bit, not too brave. We talked about like true crime. We've done two crime episodes. We've done a single episode where again, when we've planned it, we went out to set the stalls and we're not going to glamorize.
We're not going to go out the time. We were still doing top five. We're not doing top five. So you're like, no, I have an issue with.
So as someone who is, I'm going to say a true crime fan, because I'm a history fan and I especially love historical true crime. I just I love all time Ukraine, especially because the way it's reported in newspapers and it falls into that situation. So like I love that. And I love changing out other many ways, women, boys and husbands.
It's like coming in the North East apparently. So yeah. Oh, it is. Yeah.
One of the most famous boys in this, who lives on a street that I used to live on. So and I had a point to this. Yeah, so sorry. No, no, I don't forget what I'm trying to say.
I'm like, oh, is that something about crime? Oh, my gosh. Oh, yeah. Barger junkies.
Like there's a difference between a true crime fan and being a martyr junkie, because if you're a true crime fan, I'm like, what crime? Like I love a con. I love con artists, train robberies, you know, espionage, like there were really, there were so many facets to crime. But if you're only focusing on martyr, then you're a martyr junkie.
Yeah. Like I've had a weird obsession with I'd cancerous kids. So like I've almost died a few times. And so, and which is why I'm like, I'm gonna live life.
Yay. And so I've always had this sort of fascination with death. I've had quite a few of my family die pretty early on. And I sort of grew up with not as much an acceptance of death and awareness, all that.
Do my best to stay alive now. Yeah. Aren't we all on for you all? Yes.
Oh, some days I'm like, maybe what if I didn't like, what if I just went to sleep? And I took a walk, I didn't mean all of that. It's like, no, it's like, no, it's like, this is satire, don't worry. It's joke, joke, joke.
I know we've been hoping this week we get jokes. And so, and so it's, I've always had this sort of connection and awareness of it. But the idea of glamorizing, it says me who literally has like an entire photo collection of Jack the Ripper stuff. Yeah, but that's quite- Which was a gift from my dad, but I was like, well, you know what, this child needs artopsy pictures from the Victoria.
That is so weird. So I got into true crime very young because my dad had a Jack the Ripperboob that had them, all the autopsy pictures in and I was obsessed. Like, that is so weird. I mean, I was like a kid as well.
And I wasn't freaked out by it. Like I'm, I was a horror kid from like the age of eight years old. Yeah, I watched a lot of, I've watched a lot of the horror grown up, like I'd say. There's a sort of, I think as well, when you when you grew up through major historical events.
Yeah, and we have. You could have have like, there is a sort of connection to the makeup I think. Yeah. And I think there's a way to acknowledge and, but the glamorizing all that pops me off.
Like, I don't know if you saw the video, which happened the other day and not today because this is Saturday. And it, yeah. We're in the future. We're in the future.
It's like, it's like, what a day guy was Jack the Ripper. What call? Because I can't say fuck off on Tech Dogger Instagram. But you can't say it here.
I can't say it here. Well, what about that theory? And what about Walter's second? And what if it's, what if it's, you know, that, right?
What if, right? Yeah. Yeah. No.
What if it's your dog? It could be. I couldn't, it was a lot of Northern stuff. I couldn't blame for a lot of different stuff as well.
But yeah, I wouldn't pass past. I mean, I'm not. Nevermind that. It's fun to hear Jack the Ripper theory.
What if it's your dog? It's like, oh, what if I should have been a good guy? I just like, yeah. Maybe it was, maybe it was Finn.
I can tell it would be fun, you know, whatever. I'm a professional dog. I'm a professional dog. Oh, she didn't cry to a Neil Marshall.
Just in. Oh, no. Oh, I need that on your t-shirt. I need that on your t-shirt.
Oh, just a way of Jack the Ripper and what if it's a hat? There's someone, some, some fine with a big twiddling, these passion stuff. Fuck. And I am obsessed with classic Hollywood.
Like, massively classic Hollywood. And I am obsessed with classic Hollywood scandals from the 1920s. Like, majorly obsessed. Do you look like you're about?
I feel like I found a guy in the spirit here. Oh, my God, I'm really sick. Okay. Okay.
When I got to get canceled, we're hanging out. Yeah, I am totally obsessed with like, be funny, arbical. And, you know, even like, it wasn't so much of a scandal, more just a whole figure to Valentino's death. Like, I am so obsessed with that.
And like, Paul and I agree, just like, Paul and all of our cell bodies, his casket and everything. Do you find that? Obviously, you do find that interesting. I am that person.
Yes. I'm like, I'm like you. But, but in pastels. Without Wednesday.
Without Wednesday. Without Wednesday. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like Clara Bull to the bankhead. Marlon Dietrich.
I'm gonna fail it. I'm gonna fail it now. We'll be starting another podcast with you doing murder history from Cramale Wars. The murder Joel Stegel.
Oh, wow, good job. These are... Scared up. I am absolutely upset.
We've got me a massive book. I've won a Hollywood Babylon because I just wanted to read what the sh** was going on in Hollywood and like all this, like, fakery that was within this book and she couldn't get hold of it. So she got me a book just called Hollywood. It's massive.
It's like a Bible. And it is from the starting of the first movie all the way up to I will send you a picture of the cover. I'm actually making notes. I'm literally making notes.
I used to do that. So yeah, I have really a lot of interests and not have time for any of them, which is the reason I have three instagrams. I'm just like, I'm so much, my personal instagram is nothing on it. It's like everyone again, spectrum of my kids from behind, like, and then sometimes here's three cheeses, that's on top of your other toilet, cake, mine's either me or my cats on my personal one, and then I've got my nerdy up north one, and then I've got my monsters up north one, I have to, I have to be OCD, and I have to keep everything separate, otherwise my brain can't.
Well, I'm just more into my nerdy up north pole than I exist anymore, it's just me now. Yeah, so like, even on threads, I couldn't figure out how to make a pair of snow ones, I was like fuck it, it's all hooded what now? Right? It's like, I'm a thread, it's all throws me, it's like, I'm a tag.
No, you don't bother, it's like, stuff just finds you, although I've got a friend, my friend pole, I know the pole's actually, he's the great Kraken, he did that cause it's by stuff, he does all these solidating stuff, and he's just got a podcast now called Kraken's Cabin. Alright. And so, basically he reads Vix, sort of stuff, it's sort of, and the, what's the word, you can legally use it now? Alright, so it's past it, it's probably right, it's done, so it's like, a...
Oh yeah, like a public domain, so now they're making all the Mickey Mouse horror films, because Mickey Mouse is in public domain. As long as Mickey Mouse is not wearing gloves, if he's wearing gloves, you can't use them. Oh, I didn't know that. I see, that's obsessive.
There are two things I love in this world, weird history, and Clara Beldaket, like that's it. I love Clara Beldaket, and there's very few things, I actually literally bought, you can get these pens from Disney, working back in for Christmas, I saved up, oh yeah, 50th lemon, Disney and they were, oh shit, it's the entire time, but it was fine. I always say a kid's in Rowan Disney, I've always said. You know that, no it's fine, I'm gonna go back to my room sometime, I've got to get to see a comedian, I was coming up, and my boss was like, oh you're going to my phone, I'm going to my own, and she was like, really?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, because I don't have any friends, but it's like... Oh, you've got friends in us now, that's the music. I do, I've got loads of friends, but they're just all far away, I was like, I don't like doing stuff in my own, because again, I don't like a lot of people, but yeah, so I don't get this one. Oh, now you're going to my level, that's where we're going to go.
Because I got these little pens, I think it makes me feel like a little line yard to wear. Oh yeah, you're going to exchange them with different, like if you've got a Florida, you can exchange them with members of the staff, if they've got a special thing. Okay, now I know that, I must learn that, it's good to know, but basically you could buy this pair of Horace the Horse and Cloud Bell the Cow, and I was like nine, yeah, because it was like 150, whatever anniversary thing, and I was like, neat. And so, and I bought them specifically, so I can pen them onto a short color, and just be like, bla bla bla, it's like my little girl used to have this, like many, my own denim jacket, and it was all embroidery, and I'm like, that's really cool.
And she goes, you get one, and I'm like, I'll get one of the Cloud Bell the Cow, you ain't get no Mickey on me. Tell you what though, Arabella Cow caused the first ever controversy in the early of North Group Week, simply because someone dared to post that Goofy was a Cow, because his first girlfriend was Parabelle, we're like, no, Goofy is a dog. Give me the dog. Yes.
Fuck with me, let's give me the dog. The amount of people that kicked off on that. We're gonna get that clip now. Goofy's a dog, don't fuck with me.
We have wizards in the Discord who can do that too. Well, yes, and that was the first controversy, because people, we tried to argue with Kia said, Parabelle the Cow, was Goofy's first girlfriend, so Goofy is clearly a Cow, I was like, people wear their town on this track. Remember this? Oh, I remember everything from the two.
He remembers every injustice that's ever happened towards him. It's just, I feel like he's also fueled by spite. Spiting passion, that's what I would say. That's what I'd normally get to through the day.
That's true. I know these people that used to do these, they would paint letter jackets, and I was like, if I get one of those people to like paint a Cloud Bell the Cow on the back of like a colored letter jacket, I'd be so happy. I can't draw, if I ever do get the pencils out again, I'll promise I'll do you a Cloud Bell the Cow, I'll draw you on. It's been a while since I've drawn, but yes.
He's very good as well. I used to be a graphic designer, that's how I got started. I was finally found out Neil Marshall did so I'm going to live on the path of Neil Marshall to get on that. And I'll always look so beautiful.
I have no, I can kind of draw, but not great, but I can't do any digital art whatsoever. I somehow put together the logo, smashing a bunch of apps together and hoping for the best, and that was how my logo came about. And I had this card artist, who followed me on Instagram, was like, I made you a sticker and I'm like, yay. But like, I have been trying, been trying so hard to call, because I would contact artists and be like, hey, I want to do some t-shirt designs.
And I'm like, here is what I want to do. I had this whole idea of eat the wretch, right? And it was basically a tributary that looks like I've been, I did a little joke once many years ago, where it was like, okay, it was like, so is it something something eat the wretch? No.
I had this whole discuss it diplomatically, death diplomatically meet the wretch. And it's like, storm their palaces, beat the wretch, but it's a buché and yeet the wretch. And I just did this all like, death, death, death, death. And I was like, oh, this is funny.
And I just went to my head and I did it. And then people were like, hey, what is she doing? And I'm like, this is a history podcast. I've literally named four separate events that happened.
But people did this, like I do an interview with a designer, I'm on the demonstration of Prague, like people did stuff. But I was like, I had this idea of a tributary, and it was like a crowd and it's a money. And it was just because I have something before, just to eat the wretch. And so I had like, I contacted a bunch of artists, because I used to know people through different channels.
And I was like, here's what I want to do. I was like, what is your budget? Where can you buy? And I'm like, just tell me, because I will pay you fairly, because artists die of exposure.
So just let me pay you and do the thing. And then I'd have somebody be like, oh, I need to use my cousins' paper. And I was like, no, no. And it would be like, oh, well, I don't know what the mean.
I was like, here are the references. Like, here are fucking pictures of tributaries. And I'm like, oh, but I need more references. Like to the point where by the eighth person, I was like, oh, I'm like red.
I was like red. I'm one of those. I will collab with anyone with any stuff to try and help us move forward. But when it comes to our artwork, I am so protective.
It's like, no, I designed it. If anyone, the discord made the one fake stickers. I was like, no, that's not it. So Chris, yeah, you're a dick.
I see I can't draw the shit. I am so lucky that he has the background that he does. My dad's an artist. My sister is an art curator.
I come from an art family. I just decided to go into the performing arts side of it and fuck it off the actual physical. You've got feelings, Sammy. That's fine.
I've got feelings. They've got all the feelings. They've got all the feelings. They just put it onto paper.
So, um, going back, like I know we went off top. So, I'm going to talk to me. I'm taking it out of roguys. I am fucking loving it.
I have not in a long time been able to talk about it. I get, I rose in all sorts when I mentioned death. Okay. Well, yes.
I am loving this. I am loving this. What was the episode? It was like, oh, yes.
This is the person. I forgot what episode. I don't know. Exactly.
You were like, this reference, this person who was a bit part was went out with this person who was in the nightclub with the Phoenix. I was like, fucking hell, you went as a long way around to get kept mentioned on this episode. It was a month or more. Yeah.
I have a tendency for if somebody is passed away and we're watching them on the, um, on the telling, you know, like, they did. Yeah. They did. Oh, wow.
Then two people are dead and they have the conversation with each other. That's like two people who would die to have an, and I will do this all the time. Didn't do it yesterday for Neil Marshall when you saw Bob Hoskins. He didn't mention what did you did.
Not at all. But I also have a pet peeve as well, which my husband will literally stop me in my tracks the minute it happens on the screen. You go, don't do it. Don't see it.
It's when people die on film or in the TVs and they close their eyes. Your eyes don't close. Your eyes don't close. They're back open.
They have to put specialized caps in them to keep them closed. Your eyes don't close. When they do that, with their hands over like that, the eyes just like, you can do that. They shove the coin on it.
The coins on the rise. Yes. Shut the mind. My husband will go, don't do it.
And I'm like, but it doesn't really happen. It doesn't really happen. It's like a whole Daniel's shit going on stuff there. Mm.
But yeah. Turn it down. It's there. You're like, it's not a lot.
So you're like, um, as it, can I know you think, Sammy, I like Sammy's question where she asked, um, like anything stale with you. What's been your favorite episode of favorite bunch of episodes that you've enjoyed doing? So I know the reason, like I've watched, listened to quite a few, but my favorite so far, just to give you a spoiler, is the one that you've done recently. The Satanic Panic.
I thought you loved that. That was so enjoyable to watch. And again, going back to just the way this and the funnyest was the testicle thieves ones as well. That one.
The larceny. Yes. That one. I was listening to the bus.
Just pissed me. So laughing. They were listening to me. Full choice of themselves listening to it.
And they were all public bassless. I was like, somebody did like a three story. They were like, she's like, oh, they've got into the monkey testicle part. OK.
Say that. Say that's what we need. Chris, lay if you're watching. We need four of those of you listening to the podcast.
Want to see if he is Chris. Oh, you have to listen to the gland. It's one of my favorite episodes. It's one of the most important, because really not the most like-hearted ones I've done.
Really? Yeah. Yeah. To be fair, people would round Chicago, stale and testicles.
You know what you would have to have that pretty fucking grim. I'll hang on. I'll have to end. We'll wait until I'm finished and I will see you again.
My download is a bit. It's like there's a load that I actually I went and re-recorded because the audio was absolutely shocking in some of them. Like when you actually struggle to hear what I'm trying to say. And so like I read that a Elizabeth Bathrey because I have this whole fucking issue, right?
Where we're we're we're one of my represented in general. But also their names like Granu, the Irish pirate, many people who anyone who knows me who was listening to me will know one. Her name isn't Grace. Her name was never Grace.
She didn't speak a language. She wouldn't have answered to the name Grace. And it doesn't even mean Granny. It means Grace of God.
So her name was Granny, which means Grains. Like during her lifetime, she was called Granny and Granny and Granny. And it was some new dude who pretended to be a captain but he wasn't any of the rogue pirates thing. He changed her name to Grace because he thought it would be easier.
And like, oh, convenient for him. Yes, exactly. And now because of this, this is Snowball. This is a butterfly fact, right?