Nerdy Up North Podcast - Demolition Man

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Highly. The Demolition Daddy. The Demolition Daddy. Good one's going to get out of sound bite and have any of his ringtone as we speak there.

So, yes. With me being, let's just, we say a little bit under the weather, and Dr. Daughters is to rest. And pretty enough to do things I like to try and keep you grey and occupied.

I thought I'll do a few episodes of the Nerdy Up North podcast when I can fit in and see who wants to join me. And the first person who put his hand up in the air and said, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please. Can we do a demolition, man? So, maybe in the arsenal I am, went, okay, but I'm not going to give you a demolition, man, episode we did a vote.

So, I made it hard for Lee. And I don't know if you've bright people, or fixed up the vote. I think it's a match. Yeah, no one else can close to it.

And I can't remember who was on the... I think it's more about something in a second. Yes, more that's only the reveals some like, we have a Kevin Smith episode but we could work them through and hopefully Don is doing a little bit better sooner as well. We could get get done around because she is a Kevin Smith aficionado like the nerd mister herself.

I think of it probably me and for Donna at this time during the day as well because even though it is very recorded, wink wink, if this will be going out with one o'clock. So yes, look at that work working hard out. So before we do get into the talks and stuff, why were you so keen on demolition and it's the greatest action movie ever made. I'm a massive fan of Stallone.

I've seen everything is in except for rhinestone because I just don't want to put myself through that. So that's just one singing and dancing. I've heard a bit but I've never watched it. I think I only heard a bit after watching a few of the round war films and you look like this was before in the internet there's where you can go.

I am DB, someone in BCC, the whole backlog and catalogs. You had to actually do your research and how did you use magazines or how did you actually research it as a kid? I don't know. I think I just watched everything that the radio times told us on the telly.

Oh, now that's gone back. Going back to the Christmas times. I still got the radio times of Christmas and I like the things that you want to watch. Since Sky came about with Stay Away the fun a little bit now and streaming and stuff but we just remember all the movie premieres and stuff like that.

So with that, Sammy not being here, she's basically babysitting kittens and like the kittens are going to go for late. She hasn't got a late late late. Well, we don't know how much it probably has on her to have. Sorry, that's something we can ask at the late late late.

But yes, so I'll do it this way because I always get this wrong and I always say something a bit naughty when I shouldn't do so I'll try and do it perfect just for Sammy and FLEs. So everything discussed in tonight's episode are our opinions and our opinions alone. If you want to discuss any topic from tonight's episode, please come and join our open group or Discord and we can have an open discussion. What we won't have is anyone that come for us and tell us our opinions are wrong.

We can agree to disagree on the finance that's keeping fun, keeping kind and keeping toxic behavior out of the murders of that. So not as clean as not as approachable as Sammy, but that's my gruff, angry, we shall we say it. Yeah, perfect. Oh, they're your guys.

So let me is basically fighting with Beth to get the title of number one fan of the Nerdiooth Group. I don't know who has watched the most content out of the year to you now. I don't think I can see her in the chat today. So she'll be feeling that she's missed out on this day of time special.

She'll probably be a bit or she'll probably be in another ball or serial there. So she's probably been in this on a podcast of you and hours, but I think I'm on Twitch. It's that good will. Can't get enough of that good will.

The good will for now. So yes. So let's talk about the movie. So when was the last time you watched the Demolition Man?

Well, how many times have you watched the Matrix? Oh god, I don't know. I watched it two days ago, but I've watched it over a hundred times. Definitely.

There's no doubt about that. So what you say this one is when it's the one's best. That's gonna be a hard, quite strong thing to throw out. Oh, it's the funnest that he's done.

I don't know what he's best. Right. Yeah. I don't see this as a Sloan film.

I think if you take Wesley Snipes out of this and Simon Finnex, this would be a mediocre film at best. It is like on a joy and just basically how much fun Wesley Snipes is having as Simon Finnex in this movie. Still on can't just phone it in and really in the court because he is very much just cleared up by the numbers when you watch it back. And not a shit on Sloan.

I do like Sloan. I think some of the stuff he's doing now is some of his best work. Tilsa King is one of the best TV shows I've seen in the last since the Sibranos. And that's a bold statement to Al Miek and I'll stand by that one.

But yeah, I don't think Sorone is I think he is very much judge-read in this movie just without the mask. Yeah. Yeah. Very.

About the Simon Finnex thing. So Wesley Snipes is perfect as him. Do you know who was originally meant to be Simon Finnex who he wanted? Oh, come up with the facts already now.

So yes. Jackie Chan. Really? That was who he wanted.

But in Asian movies that don't apparently like people that have been heroes for all these years to be suddenly cast as a villain because they have like a therapy and typecast into that role permanently. Kind of f**k that lead with busy yeah. Leave a weapon for us. But I don't think it would have worked as well with Jackie Chan.

No. I don't think anyone else got to play Simon Finnex any better. Just the shame, magnitude and mag. What about us?

Yes. But the whole premise of this is absolutely crazy. But is it so crazy now? With a lot of the shit that's coming out and a lot of the stuff that's busy in this movie you think are it's too far fetches too outrageous.

And now we're living and getting close to that time. It's like, yeah, you can see certain things going on. Going towards that, putting a landscape show. Yeah.

Someone commented on the post that he put in the Facebook page earlier on seeing this is more like a non-fiction movie, or non-fiction movie now. And it's getting closer to the idiocracy kind of feel. Oh, no. You're thinking words now.

But yeah, it's protected so many things, which I've got a list of things that are as predicted. I'll just see if the chat can try and join in and see if they can pick out any things that the one's in. You'll never not see her eyebrows now. They are absolutely ridiculous.

But just like say her character in it as well, like growth and how it goes on is quite interesting and naive. Like the other place offers as well the chief of Connie's name now. But he just wanted to punch just because he was so single minded and quite intolerant to anyone else's views and stuff as well. So I love that Sandra Bullick is the most competent police officer in that whole comment.

She's the one that finds out where the doctor's car is going at the beginning and tries down San Phoenix. All the other police officers try and fight Phoenix and just get the razors kicked. But she, I can't remember who it is that she beats up. But she kicks the hell out some doodly around.

And it's great that the reason why she's so good as well is because she went back and watching 90s and 80s so on. Oh yeah. Where did you learn to kick like that? Jackie Chad movies.

Yeah. I don't know if that's like a reference back to Jackie Chad and Richard being casted. Potentially to be casted. Potentially.

I could say that certainly going that way. But but definitely. So what was the interruption? I was in it as well when he was like getting his out of still on for not knowing the most country.

Who the fuck knows how he is. I don't use a big career in this all morning. But I can please someone help me. I don't want to live demonstration of how he works.

But can someone I've been in the chat or can you tell me how the three seas does work? Is that something that I say in my imagination? I don't want to try and imagine how it would work? Or if someone can tell me it would be interested.

So if you can just try and think of an easy way to describe it. I mean even if even Sylvester Salonski, the way he thinks it is, is he used to for nipping anything off like excess. Why? And then just script.

I don't know if the Americans who definitely to me and I don't need to name anything off. I've never had anything off. It's kind of doesn't and I know we had like said taking the level depending on what's happening to dinner at this moment. But yeah, I've never had a name anything off.

So a seashell and nip just yeah. And to be fair to wipe with them things don't come to either way you use it or where you turn to use it as well. It's making us cringe. Just like even thinking about a seashell down beyond it's just like that's a scutcheon feeling.

It's one of the most sensitive areas of the body as well. It's not something that you want something to often unrelenting. Shall we say a gourdene type thing. So yeah, I think again the three seashells was always an odd thing that the body in.

But it was kind of like a pissed take all the way through and the joke went through all the further the film. So the way that the seashells came about is the guy right now directly to was trying to think of because they've seen about still going to the toilet in the future. They went what can I do to make this seem futuristic? Yeah, no ideas.

And he rang his mate who went in the bathroom and went I can't think of anything. I've got some seashells there as a declaration and the guy was just like I'll make it work. That's it. That's the whole backstory.

The seashells nothing else. So the reason behind the mind-boggling question that I've always reigned on and the debate law was gone when it comes to this movie is because someone didn't know how they would basically wipe their ass in the future. And it's worrying like if you run a different bit and these makers and that's what I've got an ornament of a duck. That's something.

I've got to use the duck. Much if we ran through the grave. Jesus Christ. The mind boggles where that would go as well.

The whole premise of this movie is absolutely, I would love to say ludicrous but it's not it's quite simply done. It is basically the age old tale of man out of time basically trying to re-event themselves. It is basically just taking back. This is probably what Captain America, the Marvel universe, ripped off.

Basically Captain America is just basically the Marvel version of Demolition Man. Yeah. That's why basically it does it worse in my opinion as well because I know I'm not a big Captain America fan when it comes to the movie as well. I didn't like the first movie.

It was quite a slow build up. But Winter Soldier is probably one of the best in the whole Marvel franchise. It was okay. But yeah.

I'm not okay. I just want somebody to start raging and kicking off all over again. Like losing the shit over something as something as simple as that. That'll happen.

It'll happen again. But the other thing is that the premise in the movie is basically trying to rehabilitate all these frozen cons because basically all the gels are over packed and instead of having them in gels there were freezing or freezing the worst of the worst. I don't understand with John Spartan being such a decorated police officer, him having to be frozen. Never made sense to me.

It was kind of like, I know this, his decision led to 30 deaths. But in America, they couldn't really just get slapped in the wrist and don't do that again. So I've got a massive problem with this. I don't have any problems with this movie.

But it doesn't make sense. So Simon Phoenix, it shows you his rap sheet later on when the track and who he is on the film. And he's rap sheet says murder, homicide, rape, theft, possession of drugs, creation of drugs. And these were all listed over and over and over.

And what does what does Transpartan do? He goes in and stops a guy that he's searched by himself for two years for. The police couldn't do anything about it. He's got on a solo mission, took down like seven bad guys and then carried Wesley Snipes out of the Exploeten building.

They did a thermos scan before going in, which what's he called lamb could have even attached it to. And he's done all of this, saved the day, but unfortunately the hostages died, they weren't already dead. He went from the building and slept with us. And then Simon Phoenix goes, he said he didn't care.

Like it's all his fault. And the police come and just goes, well, I'm going to take the word of this complete fucking madman. You're getting 70 years in a cryogenic prison. And just to top it off, that's the one thing that he's getting sent down for with no evidence against him.

Simon Phoenix gets up for all hearing before John Spartan. Oh, but the parole here, that's not because that was orchestrated by the main bad guy who wanted to kill. And a good friendly. Let's just take a second for the names of as well, like John Spartan, Simon Phoenix, a good friendly, just a name a few.

And like say, Simon, both of those leaner hooks lead. Like the person who think of these names, just think of like, what would we name these these movie characters from the 50s, or if like we're in some kind of gumshoe or like a dictracing novel and stuff like that. And the names are absolutely ridiculous. But yeah, I get you like that one thing as well.

And watching it back makes the over the last few years, I still pissed myself laugh at the start to I still want to just attach themselves to the helicopter and say, I know I'm the door and jumps out. What must be about 40, 50 feet in the air and basically snaps back. So it's not like bungee called. It's just a roll.

So basically, as soon as he hits that bottom of the rope, he finds this going to be snapped in half and only doesn't show some people and unhooks himself. In the in the comics, he jumps out and it's just a normal rope. And he's like, going half the time, this right. And I think it's like literally as it's about snap back, he just cuts it with his knife, just to stop attention or something like that.

I don't know it's an ex-clinist. I don't think it would work. It certainly would die. If I could say that that would be the whole thing.

But watching back now, I probably should have realized more. I got so many Robocop vibes from this as well. It's almost like corporate greed in the 90s or the 80s. That was the big bad guy for any type of thing.

But the whole idea is basically to live in this utopia type world, basically freedom and freedom of choice and freedom to busy, everything that sounds fun or kind of enjoyable has been outlawed. Which, would you want to live in that type of world? No. I mean, it would be peaceful and safe, which would be great.

Because the world we live in at the moment is a bit shit. What did you swap that for a cheeseburger though? No, I would eat burgers. If all I could eat was salad and I found someone selling rat burgers.

I mean rat. Yeah, it didn't look like a good burger as well. I'd just say that the whole premises and in this is just hilarious. I know a few people in the chat have been named a few things like Taco Bell restaurants, self-driving cars, Arnie's political career.

Those are just a few things. So were there on your list there? Fairly. So the list I've got, so video calls, self-driving electric cars, they've basically got Alexa, like the basic Alexa deluminate.

Illuminate. No contact handshakes. That's a quite recent one. Greetings in surly atation.

That's fine. Ariguen in politics and contact experiments. Well, there's people now that's getting implants in the hands that work as a like a countless card. So that's been something that's been around for the last few years.

Rather than getting like, because you have the same technology that go on the back and you mobile phones or you got like this cards, you can get a chip on your hand that has the same type of things. So you can use it to like start your car. You can use it to turn your lights on. You can use it to basically make payments.

So that technology is actually out there. There's people actually doing that at this moment. I can see people complaining about that saying, well, they could put anything in there. It could be a tracking device.

All while carrying the phone around. It's the 5G argument all over again. But yeah, it's scary how close like certain things. It's almost like the new this technology was in the works.

And I know during the 90s and the 80s, the competitiveness between Arnie and Sloane was there. So they did have the little jobs in the movies. So I don't know if it was basically directed by new Arnie was going to go into politics. Because I know in last action here as well, they had Sloane in the term of the era.

That was his best role. That was good. Yeah. Because if you watch the Arnie documentary on Netflix there, the talk about and the rivalry was real.

They actually hit them each other so much during this time because both of them wanted to be the best and be the biggest. And Sloane actually says, unfortunately, Arnie was bigger than me. Even though probably Sloane has probably had the better career now, if you look back, from going back to Rocky and to what he's doing now. Because I can't remember the last good Arnie film.

No. That sounds like it's another podcast, another day there. The only thing that really threw me watching this back now is the fact that they had quite a big comedian, quite a big name for his time in such a small role for Edgar Fredling, like Dennis Leary. I thought he was going to be playing a much bigger part in this.

I don't know if that might have been the idea when they happened in the custom, but it kind of seemed like his character or his presence was downgraded for the Simon Phoenix and Sloane role. I'm not even sure about that. I know Edgar from the identity because it's a stand-up comedian, but that's all I know about. And apparently, he likes to go on big runs and the director just wanted to let him go for one.

I just don't know if but in the 90s and stuff, he was on the cusp of being the next big thing. Like, there was a lot of things that he was supposed to be going to be in. He's done a lot of TV shows and stuff like that. So I think at the time, but that Edgar friendly role, it felt like it was going to be something bigger.

It felt like it was going to flash out to something, but it just seemed to be not fully realized, if that makes sense. Especially when we got to the end in part, when we got the whole him and the police chief, they got the total pool of opposites and outlaws and slonders all, hey, you guys do this, you guys do that. Come find the middle and that's where we'll live now. It's like, okay, still on his the law again.

But it just felt like that role or that presence in that role that was probably meant for something I hadn't gotten the cutting floor or maybe I'm just reading too much into it. They've definitely cut quite a lot out because when stolen beats are differently, the woman standing next to him is John Spartan's daughter. And when Simon Phoenix shows up on the bridge and he's shooting down at him, you see Stallone covering some woman and he's protecting his daughter. But they've completely cut that out.

And then at the end, there's only one other mention of her where just before you kiss his son, we'll look at the end. You see some woman walking away from him and there's a scene where he was arranging to meet up with his daughter and finally reconnect and go for dinner and stuff. But they'll just cut that out and you just see her walking away just at the very end. That's interesting.

See that would, that's probably why Megazia felt like someone was missing because if she was with Edgar friendly, that to me makes more sense why and all the police said he's from that time he understands he wants like that life. But he would have more connection or more reasons like to be like supporting Edgar friendly's type battle inside if he's daughters involved. So I quite like that. I think we need to start a petition now like the Snyder cuts.

We need the Stallone's daughter cuts. The Spartan daughter cuts shall we say? So we'll get to the latter course. I've read the comics which have some of these in.

I didn't realise it was a book as well, which I've ordered the book. That's going to be coming like next week or something. But there's quite a few bits being cut out. So, um, Lana, the older black guy that went in the precinct, the old helicopter pilot, he goes with them to open the sewer door when John Spartan goes down.

And that's the last time you see him in the film. When, when he sleeps escapes from the sewer, he comes across him and shoots him and kills him. Which I think that's quite a shame to miss that about out because that would have been quite an emotional moment. You don't feel any loss in the whole film?

Yeah, we don't see him. I call him again in front in the film. So when they've actually happened it's been cut out. Also, there was meant to be an epic fight between Stallone and Jesse Ventura's character.

Right? Because he just disappears off the map as well. Yeah. Last time you see him he shoots a Cochran?

Is he called the main bug guy? Oh, Cochran. Uh, I'll tell you what I'm saying. Dr.

Raymond, uh, I know he's been by Nigel Hawthorne. Um, yeah, I just remember it's got Cochran this somewhere. Um, um, if anyone can remember his name, I can't find it now. It's cutting it off.

But, um, yeah, that was an interesting thing. I love the idea as well of this is like, like, reprogramming people, like with certain traits or certain abilities and busy. Um, again, that's more down with the fear among you in the future, like the government button things in your head and you want to do things or the certain needs. But the fact that the mid him be obsessed with knitting or a seamstress, um, like was the most interesting vogue out.

But the only thing again that I found was a bit strange as well as how the mid's like, they know the mentally prepared something as well as things. Stallone actually says that the mid three times stronger. So how is this? So, yeah, it's been three times stronger.

So how can the maintenance sit mind of the putting for the steroids as well when he was in the ice and stuff? I don't know if he is three times stronger by the end because he is punch and Stallone and it's not like he's punching his head off or anything. But at the beginning, he grabs a police officer out with the car and throws him with one hand across the street. Um, another thing that was comfortable when he's unfreezed in all of the prisoners, it was meant to be some that were ready to be able to fight Stallone and Simon Phoenix started injecting them with mega amphetamen, mega amphetamen, uh, stuff, mega, mega adrenaline, that's it, sorry, um, which made them stronger.

So possibly that might be some part of the non-freezing process or you might have found it himself before leaving the place. I don't know. Interesting. Very cool.

Um, it's one of those, it's like, yeah, like all the movies, like I know when we say we're gonna review these things, you look at that with different names, films are meant to be like there to sit and just enjoy. And this is one of the most fun ones you can just sit back and if you turn your brain off and don't know what to think, it goes from the end of the beat quite quickly and it's, it is end of the day. But as you said, when you look at it and think this quite doesn't make sense, this doesn't feel right or, and certain things. And it's a shame if they have cut these elements out, just to make it like a streamline movie, but that's probably where streaming is now, where we probably would get the full feature length film if it did come out these years where all these extra things in, but it would be a longer movie and it would probably be as complete as much now.

It wouldn't make a bad movie or worse film, but I can, I feel like there's a lot missing now when I'm watching it back. One bit not cut, which was just an accident. Jack Black, no, it's Jack Black and that's all. No, I didn't.

When, when it's lonely, like a friendly, so it's got his daughter on one side and then Jack Black's on the other side of him. Very young Jack Black. And it being waiting on set for about 90 days, I think it is, like thinking, oh, do you need us today? No, do you need us today?

No, do you need us today? No. Finally, he slept in one day and he was like, oh crap, I better get to the studio. He was driving along his agent, I'm going, where you're at?

And he was like, chill, they haven't needed this. It's fine. He's like, this is the day you needed on set. You've got a big line.

And he's like, oh crap. And he's just like, I don't think it was people. It was just something like, oh, you got to get them now? And he was like, and he was like, some crappy line in the movie.

I didn't know it was so much up. I might have to rewind it back and watch it and go through it. But yeah, I remember when this first came out, because I am that org, like I said, it was 1993. There was like a big buzz about this movie.

And it wasn't, like as I said at the start, where you got in looking at the trailers and stuff, there was like an AEA or like a special 10-minute documentary type thing showing you like the making of the movie and what was going on. And I always found it fascinating that the Stallone duck gets frozen, like seeing the ice, the made a life-size workswork model of Stallone. And yeah, he meant to have had arguments with like the people on set over the size of his manhood. So apparently that did make it kind of toply correct in everything in the way, when he wasn't happy because he thought he made his cock too small in the model.

I mean, he would be nice. So it would be cool. That would have been the excuse, but I always found it quite amazing that Stallone kicking off about a workswork model of himself. That's what he's going to be at that must have talked about how long for them to make.

And it's only going to be in the shot for what 30 seconds to two minutes, which is hilarious. Oh, that's long enough for us to notice it every single time. Yeah, I just started doing it and like, I've got to look again. Oh, JX this point as well, the actual works model is in a bar in earlier, somewhere on the wall.

So it was in, I thought it was, I think, but then I think it's been moved. So it's kind of what you would start thing now. Yeah, I don't know. That might be why it's not there anymore, if you should tell.

I know a lot of them close and I know the one in Florida did. But I think we was one in London as well, but I think that definitely went by the way aside. I went to the one in Florida and not had to accept some of his outfit from back to the future and then that was highlight. I was just like, we've got to sit next to Marty.

So I know, let's see what's all about Stallone's roles and his best performances. Whereas these tonight is a polarizing character for a lot of different reasons now because of behavior outside of movies. But for some reason, when it comes to like, certain franchises or certain things, he can turn it on and turn it off and be like the highlight of like a movie. I remember this.

I told her, blade, we can talk about like white man can't jump. Like he, for an act of that had literally everything, it's got to work where it's gone now, taping with him. He's an amazing actor. It's like Black Gary Oldman.

Gary Oldman can put himself in the different roles and see him in another film and go, holy shit, is that Gary Oldman? Because he looks different all the time. You've got to sign in Phoenix next to Blade. They don't even look related.

No, I would like to say that would be an interesting fight. Like I said, that's a comic we need now, Blade versus Simon Phoenix. I love his hair in this film and he's out fits as well. I don't think we're talking about fashion ever on this.

That's the only cool guy I've ever seen in Dungarees. Apparently he hated his hair. He's here as soon as the finished film. I think that was so cool until Sisko ruined it later in the 90s.

I was like, we're going to make it, see a comeback in the late form of the Simon Phoenix hairstyle. On the next 24 hour podcast, we'll say, guess the hairstyle. Or when we have the auction, you can money to just style these hair. So that could be something that we could auction off as well as as well as with real Germany.

I should say one of my get-meself into after you mention Google's with Germany. We know that's going to go up a big work, so that's fine. He's probably watching back now when I fucking hear these guys. So we got to make it to the outfits as well.

I do love the outfits in this. I know where to start when you first meet Simon Phoenix. He's wearing these, as it's straighten your checkered pants, it almost looks like his joker-esque type outfit. You could imagine them being in Gotham City and being a villain for Batman.

But as with any action movie in the 90s or the 80s, the cast raisers that stuck with this movie as well. Like literally, you can't, like when you mentioned Demolition Man, people always come up with the one line as well, obviously like Teddy Bear. You don't get many of these type of action movies now, where the one line is always going to have a jogging or to take it almost either. You have two series or two joty.

These ones used to hit the sweet spot of like seeing being niche where they're with cheesy as fuck, but they also, like say, always entertainment. Yeah, I don't think there's any amazing one line as any more apart from just bring back the old ones. Yeah. Like if Arnie's in a movie, they've got to put Albie back in there somewhere.

Like as we've got with the Expendables, like, it doesn't matter how many versions, like every time Arnie's in it, I'll be back. That's some. No, you'd be back too many times. I'll be back.

That's gonna make another turn there. I'll go and play some. Well, another one. I'm listening to two.

That's me too. Okay. If Goodwill can see it, there wasn't an uncharted movie came out in 2022. There's only two Terminator movies.

Yeah. My argument with that, I don't think Terminator 3 is a bad movie. I just had the wrong cast in for John Carter. John Carter.

It's a comedy? Yeah. Well, not really. It's not really a comedy.

I think a lot of it gets a lot of here because of how the female's down there. I think that was a lot of the adudes towards it. But the guy, like, Christina Logan, she was brilliant. She was a great Terminator.

Yeah. I think they just made fun of everything too much, like the Star Sun glasses. It's an amazing scene, which the cut is well about him. We've seen what Arnie is the general.

Right. Lieutenant Candy. Okay. I'm Lieutenant Candy.

No, I'm glad I haven't seen that. But yeah, I've got a little bit of love for the three. I think I came afterwards. I think without just a lot of the stuff just comes.

I see the casting that got wrong. I see the John. You needed someone like a bit dirty, a greasy exit. Edward Furlong was perfect for that role.

I know you couldn't cast them again after these problems, but you find someone along that line that irk next to us. Unfortunately, it's just too clean, too nice to really feel like the street wrap role. Shall we say? Yeah.

We are again going off in tangents as well. And I see it. What is your favorite part of demolition and what would you say stand out? Love Simon Phoenix when he's in the phone box at the beginning and that fight between the police officers and him.

The soundtrack is amazing. It's not even a song that's playing. It's like someone on Nixon. It's like, oh, I'm trying to do it.

Like, I was like, we're getting the bait box now. So we're not getting you a talents now. It's just it's time to perfectly with it. Whoever's done it.

And then he has a fight with that other guy and he's like, teaching him how to punch. I'm trying to think of the bits as well. It's difficult to pick a lot because the whole movie is perfect. I think, as you said, the initial action saying at the start is what you're setting yourself in for what you're going to get.

But I do like the confirmation in at least in the museum where Simon and I can't get signed with Simon Phoenix and I don't know. So the one's character, Simon goes out it like fully and then they go into the old ruins of Elliot when they're hit and it's like the last like this space and time. And then Simon thinks realizes what the gun can do and his reaction to that is hilarious as well. And the fact that as well, he gets electrocuted and all he does is just flying the air and has no burn marks, no ill feelings.

Like, yeah, it can survive that shit. But yeah, that whole fight scene as well. I suppose get a bit sick for this. My disappointing scene part of the movie is the end.

I think the end fight is a little bit lackluster. It's not, I was expecting more, if that makes sense. Yeah, again, I think this is because the cut, the scene where he was might be fighting all of these, like basically, roided up criminals. So yeah, so you think that would have basically led more, give us a bit more of an ending or a satisfying ending, shall we say?

I wonder if we would have got a Jeffery Tom Cruise, or if we would have got a Jeffery Tom Cruise, or if we would have got a Jeffery Tom Cruise, or if we would have got a Jeffery Tom Cruise, because he was frozen. Yeah, that was one thing. That was a pre-decision to have that, throw away a comment in there as well. I love that guy.

Wow, especially, again, I wonder if the Ray Vellay's Blade, not a great demolition man, like in a 4K or like a special release. I wonder if that line is still in this movie at this part. I think the tattoo. I mean, if they're going to release that, not even a year after the whole Jeffery Tom thing, it's been enough time already.

It's not too soon. I was a little tittin' in the back when I heard Jeffery Tom's name. I probably when I watched it the first time, I probably didn't get it. I get the joke, because I said in the 90s when I was in the UK, Jeffery Tom wasn't a big name back then.

But now watching it back, it was almost like a double take since did he just say what I think he just said? I did laugh at the thing, I shouldn't really laugh. I did laugh. But yes, with these movies as well, I know you're a big fan of this one, and I know it's got quite a big cult following.

What would you give this out of five if you want to give this out of five? Five. Five. Not even hesitant.

There's a lot of plot tools, but what is it? I'm getting where it is. What's your binathlic set? Is it my gilby the director?

I can't remember now. It's someone like my gilby the binathlic. Why don't I just train the astronauts to use a drill? And he just goes, shut up, that's why.

That's a big idea. The number one we meet in Demolition Manate. What is the number one requested song on the radio? Ah, hot dogs.

Kids love to eat. Why do kids love to eat hot dogs made of meat? They can't. But why is that the number one song?

That's why I get confused about this movie as well at times. This is my written copy of Three, I'll be honest with you. It's entertaining, but it makes no sense of times where the band, anything to do with that, they think could be bad for you. Why would only commercials be allowed to be cleared?

If they weren't bad for you, because commercials are now seen as a devil, for a lot of things, because they're advertising things that are bad for you and not for it, where music, which can't help a lot of people, why is music now state deemed as bad? I mean, it possibly could be like corporation bribery. They're like, oh, you're changing everything in the world. Well, we still want to advertise our products.

Here's some money. I write, well, we're not having any rock music or rock music anymore. Just add that. And again, we're watching it back now.

I get confused by this as well. So during the whole restaurant was Pizza Hut and I say certain things stay alive. If they were banning and getting rid of the worst things that was bad for you, surely pizza would have been on the chopping block for the first thing that they would get rid of? Yeah, definitely.

Do you remember Pizza Hut's Taco Bell? I can't remember. I remember Taco Bell being mentioned. Right.

Okay, that's strange because the one I watched two days ago was Taco Bell. Right. Pizza Hut was for the UK and possibly some part of Europe. Right, okay.

I did not know. But Taco Bell is the original. That had basically photoshopped all of them scenes. I don't know if Taco Bell didn't have rights to do the advertising here or if people didn't know what Taco Bell was.

So that's a good fact. I did not know that because I've seen it a few times and I've seen different versions. I've seen the Taco Bell, I think, when I downloaded it, but I did notice when I watched the one yesterday that it had Pizza Hut as the sign as well. And so the Taco Bell and I just thought it was just like a throw away a comment.

But yeah, so depending on which version or which part of the world that you're in, we got a different takeaway type thing. What do we feel? I mean, I watched it on Amazon in the days, so I don't know if that's because it's an American company. It might just give me the American version.

Possibly. I've been using the different things, the idea where you live and stuff, so you get extra extra things. Oh, no. That is the thing.

You can't speak. You can't hide from your internet company to get because we used to be able to get all the American shores on Netflix, where you got the UK ones on the UK one. So if you spoofed and pretended during the US, you used to be all the US shores. That sounds a bit too technical for me.

Don't you? No. Give me the hints and tips all the way there. Yes, JX Point now as well.

That it brought us this in the top five action movies. But to be fair though, JX, that was nearly a year and a half ago. So to remember everything that we've discussed on every single podcast is getting and I have got memory issues. I am old as well.

Don't forget that. So do you, because we're still owning everything as well, normally you get about 15 sequels. Why did we not get a single to demolition? I don't know.

I think that maybe he just didn't know where to go with it. Right. Could go back in time or a big read for his or something like that. I feel like if anything, they should have went and sort of the rest of the country as well.

Because I imagine that San Angelis isn't the only place where this is happening. So I'd assume you'd have to go and start shutting down all the other cryo prisons and then trying to police the new world. Which I suppose we'll just turn into just red. True, true.

But that always makes it more. What I've wanted to find more interesting now as an organ, I didn't think about much as a younger person. But now when I watch it back, because I don't really mention other places around the world or in America, I want to know what kind of disappear or what that's turned into, how it is governed. Because they don't mention a president or an American as a country.

It's all about that little county that's kind of lived in. And now the guy who runs the corporation, he runs everything that goes in, especially the prisons and stuff. So surely a higher government would have more talent or as America now broken up into a different historians as well. I'm not sure.

Hopefully when I get this novelization of it, it might explain a bit more. But I'm sure he says something about doing this whole Simon Phoenix thing to get the utopia that he wants to release it everywhere else, I think. Right, okay. So it's kind of like a corporation that he can sell on as Martin and say, look, this is what we've accomplished.

All we need to do is to roll it out. Almost like a franchise type thing. They can't knock Donald's stuff over the world. Yeah.

Very cool. Not interesting. But yes, because I know you said you've been getting a lot of your factoids down, you've been having your notes. Is any of your factoids that you haven't believed, honestly?

Yeah. And this one of me things, not really a prediction, but it's more just like a statement, which is the guy that was this guy that pulls out with the phone box. Although it's not really a phone that the guy is using. It's a self-help machine.

It's like, you're an incredibly sensitive man who inspires joy-joy feelings and knows all around you. And this guy's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And Simon Phoenix just pulls him out. Yeah, you're using computers and stuff like that for validation.

It's essentially Facebook. You're online. Well, it's a series of things. Facebook isn't like pro and happy players.

I've seen people saying I'm down and some other people's been posting to go and kill yourself. So. Well, the minus the trolls, because I don't think there's too many of them in this utopia. Yes.

I know you don't know of this as well. They're saying to get vivid as well. We have lost a few members over the last night. Two to the narrowed-mindedness of a few bellings, shall we say, a pebble.

One more I think, which is in the Middle East, this was released as a ramble of the destroyer. What? They'd have success over there with the ramble movies and Conan. So they were like, well, let's just call this ramble of the destroyer.

And that'll do with people in the coming series. If anyone can find the poster or like a DVD cover with that on, that will be awesome. I'd love to say that. Ramble of the destroyer.

I might just follow up with myself and say, look, this new movie that's coming out next year. So, I know one more actually. So I've mentioned all of these things that were cut. There was one scene, well, one part which I haven't put into the film.

The whole beginning sequence wasn't originally there. So it was meant to just be starting from them waking up in the future. But Frank Deger, who'd done a rewrite and said, if you don't show Kansas, it was isn't special. Yeah, no, I get that.

I probably wouldn't have got. And that's probably why it does feel a bit like rushed off stuff on in a way at that time. Because as you said, at the start when we were on the conversation, it makes no sense that he gets sent down for everything that happens when it's just the word of like a mad man saying that he made me do it. He didn't care.

He just wanted to take me down. It's obviously, I know like the American justice system is quite won't be eyed at the best of times, but surely they're not that won't be eyed where, like say, a decorated police officer with basically, let's say, a certain, he made a thousand over a thousand arrests in three years. I'm having that pig with a guilty door. That's the question when he does.

But if the froze him, was he just, he must have just been doing all the work. How did the manager get all the criminals frozen? To create this utopia? I was just killed, I think the point is that it's murder death kills, but that again, it's one of the most ridiculous terms as well, it's not just murder, it's murder death kill.

So it's kind of like emphasizing the murder part that ends in death and that's one of the one kills. It's like a bit of overkill, but yeah. And what was the way it used to say it to say goodbye? Be well.

Be well, everyone. Be well, transparent. Well, greetings. Again, that's just another thing that happened because what was the, what, to knock down the scene so a lot of it when it used to say goodbye used to be serious here?

Yeah, so again, yeah, definitely. Another thing that just basically happened that we didn't realize. So yes, she has been careful of the Google and Rambo, just getting some certain fan fiction that probably could read out on his next switch rate, yes. So yes, I think this is a good movie.

It's not perfect by any means, but it's one of the ones where you should be brain off and just enjoy and just rock and roll with it and it's fun from start to finish. Could it be improved? Yes. Should it be improved?

No. That's probably my take on it as well. If there was like, say scenes cut out with like Spartan's daughter, I wouldn't mind seeing that cut if they ever did release like a director's cut to a different version. I think that could add to it, but I wouldn't change too much of it.

I'd be like, no, I've done this a little bit. I don't think it needs to be changed too much to be honest with you there. I wouldn't change a single thing. Apart from maybe splitting in those extra scenes.

And just a question about your hat. How long have you had the hat? Did you get especially for the podcast or have you had a phone? It arrived yesterday.

This is a bit of card with Silver T-1 because I couldn't get the touch. This vest thing that I'm wearing. I need a 20 kilogram vest because I bought it eight years ago thinking I could do weird training. I wore it once and then put it in the garage.

Good pleasure. So JX4 just announced as well. So JX will be streaming tonight at what time. JX4 is going to be in the chat as well.

He says it's going to be no fun. Fiction tonight. I will take on a Twitch channel. I will be doing the full on Debbie Downer mode if whatever that means.

So if Jake will be on the Nodie Up North Twitch channel tonight also as well. Goodwill is not live this Friday as I found out yesterday. He's going to be live on Saturday from Annie Castle. Actually, it's Sean Fennec and Graham's going to be involved in the talk and track.

But this Sunday's episode, I believe it is the X-Men episode. So Jake, I hope you are getting the X-Men knowledge because you probably forgot you're going to beat you on this Sunday. So that's more fun stuff. But I'm not going forward to the X-Men episode.

That is going to be in the game because so many different viewpoints on that because as people as I found out in the comics, as people have found out in the cartoon, especially with the new cartoon coming out now. And also the movies and what we're getting now with Deadpool 3 and where that's going to go on. It should be quite interesting. And Jake said he is live from 6.30 tonight.

Anything you want to promote there for me? Nothing I can think of. Nothing I can think of. So what is the next film you want to throw into the hat for the boat or people to try and get the first one out now so that we can try and build the following for it.

So you can get you to come back on again. Oh, see I would see the second greatest action movie would be Turn The A2. I've always said it between Turn The A2 and Demolition Man and Demolition Man wins just a bit. To be fair, Turn The A2 is not a bad movie.

I do enjoy the movie but it does get so much love that Turn The A1 deserves. Now Turn The A1 is the better movie. Pans down. If you watch them back in the back, Turn The A1 is the greatest movie from start of finish.

I agree, Turn The A1 is a better story. But Robert Patrick is one of the greatest villains of all time in Turn The A2. Arnie, as the Turn The A2 is nothing as scary as Arnold Schwarzenegger as the 3-800 in Turn A1 is unstoppable, unrelenting and just focused on the mission. Robert Patrick is good but it's not as scary in my eyes.

But again, that's where the debate comes to. So we'll throw a Turn The A2 in the hat. I think you mentioned RoboCop as well. RoboCop did well but he didn't think so RoboCop could be added to the list as well.

But I think some others try not to make his action pact because I know Jake would actually kill me if I try to talk about RoboCop without him as well. But yes, so that was our review of Demolition Man. So a little tricky, dinner time special, for anyone who wanted to skive during the lunch break. So yes, we have got a lot of stuff coming out.

I remember I will be sorting out stuff and trying to organise things for the 24-hour stream and have a lot of things planned for that. I don't know how it's going to fit at all end of 24 hours. Some people are going to have to stay up to the top of the morning to keep up with the shit that we're going to be doing. But yeah, it's going to be entertaining.

And let's see, almost at least third of payments now on the Nodioh podcast. Yeah, yeah, there's number three. Are you being peaches yet or is it time or peaches? I don't know how many times I've been.

I think it's a time. But I am on Nodioh coming because I'm a sex man. Possibly the Sunday after that. Is that why we're doing Top 5 5 movies?

Yes. That's penciled in. That might be changed. I'm not going to lie.

I'll be here in a couple of things. I'll be here coming on. Got a lot of things fit in and I can hopefully, if it doesn't change, we can say it's Top 5 5 movies which I did what it is. Well, yes.

So same back time, same back channel. Be well. I've got to say, say it's the only other one. Something you can share.

That's fine. Bye guys.