Hi everyone and welcome to the Nodio of North podcast not sponsored by Prime Energy Drink. Here's a Nodio of North, hosted by Northern nerds. Ah yeah I'm one of your hosts Sam. And I am the other hosts Paul and we're joined by oh yeah nobody's here.
Nobody's nobody's with us. Why does no one want to join us anyways? Everyone's sick of us or is it just a fun episode with me and Sammy kicking it kicking it real kicking it old school. Orgy style.
Yes we are very tired today as well because we've had because with us being at all's and having to go outside and see people and try and make look after people make sure everything's happy and smiling. Keep Lee at the end because Lee's like the biggest child that I've ever known. He's just like says daddy's half fucking ready. Why have you done that?
Why? Why? What is wrong with you? You weirdo.
And also a parking mouse away from a venue too. All because you wanted to go into town to buy a bag. That's not the truth. You don't like change.
Let's be honest. No that's the thing though. I actually go swimming there. I park there all the time.
So it's not like I don't know that place. It's just I really wanted that bag. And I was I was hoping to the heavens that that bag was going to be there. And long before it was.
Otherwise we'd be walking out of the town with absolutely nothing. Well no that's not true. It could be got something. Yeah well got something.
We're going to get something. And we'll hang out with each other as well. We always come back with sexual transmitted diseases as well. Well hi Donna.
Time for the clinic tomorrow. Oh yes. Got that shot on the ass again. But yes.
So yes I've been teasing years a little bit this week so I know like Sammy knows the big secret and bless us just kept the secrets all well. So we do have a little bit of an announcement early up and off. It might be a good announcement. It might be a sad announcement.
It depends on how you view it. But as people might be happy they might do a dance you know. So with comes to the podcast with great power comes great responsibility. Getting into the top grumps next week when Spider-Man.
When I knew I was doing this episode. If there was a line in this movie that kind of resonated with me quite much and it is a quite an emotional movie for me as Sammy found out last night. It is quite a powerful movie at times. But it's a quote from Jack Black that he says when he comes to like talks about like a certain star or like an act or what to do.
It's busy as a bed to burn out or fade away. So and again it just gets your thing and do we want to do I want to keep doing this until it gets too much or gets two or two people get sick of us or do we leave like to like an office like the each of us office and people coming for more. So yes and so yes tonight is not the last episode of the North podcast but it is the last nerdy of North podcast with me. So this is me bowing out.
This is I know bowing out from nerdy of North and bowing out from podcasting. So yes I'll be doing this stuff behind the scenes but this will be the last time you see me. Hope you get enough of me now with bitches. Yes.
Take them all in people because next week it won't be here. So yes so it's gonna be a fun one. It's gonna be interesting. And I always say it and I would end my nerdy of North Korea on a top five because we started on a top five and this movie is one of the biggest top fives about the reveries.
So yeah as we as I learned last night I'll do the disclaimer if I can get through the disclaimer and I'm just reading all the comments coming in and then we'll crack on with this week's episode. So everything discussing today's episode is our opinions and our opinions alone if you like to discuss anything from today's episode please come and join us on the Facebook page the discord or the comment section where we can have an open discussion but what we want to have is anyone coming for us and tell us our opinions are wrong because we can all agree to disagree in fandom. So let's keep it fun keep it kind and keep the toxic behavior out of the mechanism. Yes.
And we've done that well. We've done that well for three years. Three years keep going like I say it's always interesting and it always keeps us on our tours as well. But yes we'll continue the good fight for all nerds out there and just to say thank you as well because we are almost at 14,000 followers on the nerdy earth facebook community.
We hopefully as I said the restrictions on facebook will be lifted so we still can continue to grow on the actual facebook page because I think we're sitting up 73,000 almost at 7,000 on Instagram and all the other platforms that we do play about with and have fun with as well. And again I'm so excited about the content and the stuff that's coming out like honestly the stuff that Lee's been doing and Chris at the top grumps is so fun. Monsters is getting the and so and so yes this is always gonna be fun and it's always gonna be have a laugh there. Yeah I mean what you've got to appreciate is we started this three years ago and I may have started it with the top vibes not knowing that this is where it would leave to in the end.
But what you've also got to take into account is that he has done this for three years without any storage. He's not taking breaks. I've had breaks. I've been on holiday.
I've had people stand in for us. I took a break when monsters came up. He has not taken a break in three years. You have to give it up for Mr.
Paul Watson. Yes. So and I couldn't think of a better film to talk about and as we were chatting earlier Sam watched this movie for the first time last night. So did you like the movie?
Sorry. I loved it. I absolutely loved it. It's another one of those movies that I thought of me saying while watching it how have I managed to let this pass with this amount of time and then when they start going and talk about this and talk about that and I was like I should have had that as our podcast.
That is literally the start and find of our podcast. That's how we started. We go back to earlier. I mean, it was being we haven't done a top five in a year now.
Yeah, because it was getting harder and harder to keep that rolling and keep it like interesting shall we say that? Yeah, and it's a lot of hard work. Like with with the movie reviews, it's one movie. Yes.
And if you want to take a deep dive into it then by all means you can if you don't then you don't you just go on what you've watched. It's quite you can make it as easy or as simple or as easy as hard as you want it to be. But we're tough behind the fucking dream. You're getting annoyed if someone picked your pick and it was a yeah.
I had a whole episode where someone had all my pick and it was the first time I ever met him. Which I was still good friends today, Jake. But yeah, what was it as well? I think we did a Disney episode of thing was one of the ones that you were weird where we had so many people on that it was nearly over three and a half hours long and we would like me the end of the episode just one just thought that tell us what your five picks are now.
Yeah, I was it was my 40th. I think that was the last one because it was my 40th birthday weekend. It was while I was in the cabin and I tuned in to see if Graham did me disclaimer realized I wrote it wrong and I was like right I'm out and then I checked in like a few hours anything and all they'll be finished by now. You know, you can still go but yes still going.
Yeah, still trying to get to the end. Yeah, I don't care about Disney no more. Disney died for me that. But quite in years go to on there.
So have you got the tag lines for this one then something? Yeah, I've only got two tag lines for this one. First one is let's get it on maybe tonight. Oh, right.
No question mark just maybe tonight. Okay. The second one is I think this is something that would have been on a promotional poster. Right.
A comedy about fear of commitment, hitting your job falling in love and other pop favorites. Oh, interesting. I can't say that. Yeah.
For a movie of how it was then taglines are not the greatest. Yeah. So it makes me think how much publicity did this movie get because I've gone through taglines where it's had all the promotional taglines on that were on posters on trailers on you know what I mean? It's weird though because when this came out there was a lot of here to it like like me before the film got released there was quite a lot of a robust like there was quite a standoffish like how dare they make this movie because the original book is like by Nick Hombi is set in the UK.
It's like a set in London. It's a very it's a very British book. And because they basically transferred it over and made it American, they were like how dare you change our culture? This our jokes our comedy our like we have life isn't going to like hold up to the American side because we've had like similar things we've had some of success like the office and the goal the American office that worked and we've had like was it missing a thing like a Mars the American version didn't hold the world when it did it transferred so it was kind of like a culture clash.
The people who were fans of the book were kind of like right this isn't going to be what we want. This isn't what we look as a book is beloved. It is like a British classic like it is got a lot of fandom when it comes to as well a lot of Nick Hombi books as well as similar type of fear. It's I think a pitch perfect.
I think that's Nick Hombi could be right could be wrong. I've had a similar fear as well but when the movie got made it became like almost like a sleeper hit so a lot of people actually didn't get on board straight away but it's this is one of the movies I've found at home on DVD. This was a big big big here on DVD and funny enough a lot of people want to use this as a date movie because in essence the story is a love story not might be the conventional love story but it's done in a way that I still that's one of the most realistic uh paper pitch that sorry sorry sorry sorry um yeah but yeah it's it's probably the most realistic love story that you can get like with Hollywood actors and movies and stuff because it's not a Hollywood love story it's not a love that would break the world it's quite realistic and quite mundane. It's really complex as well and there's a lot of and we were talking about this earlier we had to start ourselves from talking about it otherwise we would have done a whole episode while we're walking through town and there's a lot of language that's used from um what's he called the main character?
What's his name? John Kuzak. John Kuzak's how do you get? Yeah yeah there's a lot of language used in him where he saw Bitter that he sees women in such a way because of his business starts to break down as the movie goes on that starts to like wash out of him to where at the end he gets it.
It's it's a love story it's also a revelation story it's also one finding themselves it's music changing it from London to America doesn't bother us now understand the whole music side but when it comes to us but putting it in Seattle was just a lot. That is the you know the cultural spot of music in America is Seattle there's a lot of movements and you know changes happened in music in all stems from the Seattle area so to have it there was just perfect. And the cast let's just take a moment to appreciate the cast in this movie because a lot of these were unknowns like this was Jack one of Jack Black's first big rules this is the way we learned Jack Black would sing. John Kuzak absolutely fantastic this is probably one of these best films from Gross Point Blank as well that's up there at that level.
That is and the ever film of all time. John Kuzak is just absolutely the life and soul of any party that she's in like Amy's just in a top small role in any film you fucking remember and she leaves an impact on this movie like there's two scenes just blow your way throughout like with it and we get a weird Tim Robbins is coming who watches this bizarre. Yeah it was it was almost like a top good moment for me I was like where the fuck did Tim Robbins do? And yeah and all my favorite cutting-seater John's I I have I love that woman.
I really do she is absolutely breathtakingly stunning and I loved I actually really loved our character and I loved how he was so blindsided by the talk by the attitude by the vibe that she was given that he didn't realize she's a horrible person. I love that and I'm trying to think there was a young Sarah Gil I say young we know Sarah Gilbut a lot younger than that but she was a young a teenagery Sarah Gilbut was in it. Lisa Bonnet. Oh yes.
That woman makes me a question a lot of things because it's oh my gosh it's beautiful but it's all we does that as well because we look exactly like that. Yeah it's quite in the next little bit of history through the like the movie and the last year the did-correct trying to do a TV show. I think I got canceled after the first season of the first number of episodes where the other Zoi Kravas play the Rob character so the gender bended it changed it around which I watched the first episodes. Zoi Kravas plays Rob perfectly but the other characters couldn't replace Jack Black or couldn't replace the other guy the bald guy like I always get his name Dick yeah his character which was just completely bizarre and he was brilliant absolutely brilliant it's the when he's like I'll tell I'll tell what's Jack Black character and it is Barry yeah Barry that's such Barry I'll tell Barry you're going to tell Barry I'll tell Barry yeah you know there's a whole fucking five minute dialogue about how he's gonna tell Barry and he's just like yeah Dick find Dick whatever Dick and it's like oh you are an energy vampire you you're Colin Robinson of this group but it was an interesting starting point by the movie as well because you don't see the act or like like the comment like what's happened you kind of getting the after effect of the breakup and Rob sitting there like more when we listen to his music and he's like starting off like top five breakup songs or some of those lines because everything like anything that happens during this movie like if someone dies there's a top five films top five songs about death so Sammy was like yes and I'm all for this it wasn't just about death it was like top five songs that you want people to know like of your death and it was songs like it was some of the songs that Jack Black came up with were absolutely perfect it was like that's how people wanted to like you that's the song they want to play them and they find out of you there is that one I love that part but then as it goes through and he just sets up the stories like um starts near and girls near him since he's kind of angry at Laura for breaking up with him or leaving he's like he didn't make the top five Laura not even in the top 10 closest and he goes through telling the stories because you expect them to be like top five heartbreakers or top fives at the most was in it's in chronicle and every single one of them does not show him in a good light no and it's the revelation that he has later on especially when he goes to his college girlfriend and he's like why did you break up with his and like going off with someone else and sleep with someone else and she was like I was hard-broken that you broke up with me because I was 16 and wouldn't sleep with you yeah yeah you you referred to me as being tight and like I said you brought me that much that when the next person came along it wasn't real but it wasn't that far off because I didn't have the energy to like to see and again it gives you like realistic reactions and realistic things because I can remember breakups I can remember being like and it sounds about like not due to this movie but like I remember sending one of my ex-girlfriends a mixed here of like songs we used to listen to because I was sad that we were broken up that was like teenage Paul but again this is John John Kousak's Rob who's lived 30s early 40s now I would say like in this in this role so he should have known better in certain aspects like the way he was going on with Laura like Laura the whole stalking and falling in the re-entiting just like that again you always get bad vibes for it but I can imagine people doing that when the way younger and going through breakups are hard-ache and not knowing how to like deal on you become completely irrational you are not the person that you think you are in that situation you become this other being and we've all probably been in dinner before because everything that you you know is wrong completely goes out the window yeah so Chris is asking what songs are on the mixed here now oh Jesus Christ I think what was it so it's before college so it might have been sound garden not sound garden was it savage garden I know it was recorded off the radio or Chris I didn't even buy it I'd be a way for the top ten tracks like they can be played and pressed record at certain times it's very single T as his mum would number five starts plus What?
People by? Beaver forever, Spice Girls. Oh no. Oh god.
The only mixed ever ever got was when my friend introduced me to metal. Yeah. And I was 15 years old and it was an educational team. I wish I kept it.
And it was just across all genres of metal from the heaviest shit to the new metal that was just starting to emerge. The birth of Slipknot. Which is why I wore me slipknot t-shirt a day because it's the original 99 of a M and I first got into them in 99 and yeah, it's only two but I've had it was an educational tape. What I absolutely just loved though and I shouldn't have loved this is the elitist attitude of how they were in the store.
Yeah. Basically everything that nearly up north represents and we try and push out and say no, you can't be like this. There are such toots when it comes to certain things like some like at one point a parent in the store and asks. You're calling the love me by as Stevie Wonder and Jack Black was do you even know he don't even know he don't?
Oh, sorry. Sorry. We said this one were out of the day. I was like, is it wrong that I really love the elitist attitude of these given that that is not what we stand for at all, especially in, you know, Fandoms, we don't do the whole gift-keeping thing, but I love that.
And instantly as a dad walked out the door and he did the whole grand gesture of fuck you. And I'm back instantly times. I'm just going to top five non criminal activities. see me wonder.
Go. It's like the mix of the moment. And there's another moment as well when there's two other moments, one when the kids are shoplifting and the stay on records. So they stop mocking them for the music choice that the store was like using all this stuff.
And it's just like, Oh my God. But also the other bit is when the probably nerd guy who's like almost one and a half sex with the album is like, and Jack Black's, Oh, we've got it in. You would have a lot of it and he's like, Oh, are you going to sell it this week? And he goes, I'll take it back and he goes, No, I don't think I'm going to sell it this way.
And he's like, come back next week. You said that last week and you can see the frustration out it. And the me to sit down as goes, Oh, I don't know on the album. Would you sell me for 40 bucks?
And John goes, yeah, go on. And he's going, so you're selling to me, but you wouldn't sell it to that guy. And he's good. Yeah, that guy's a nerd.
You're cool. He doesn't appreciate this. You will. So that's why we'll sell it to you.
And all he goes. So you're all kind of elite as me. Yeah. At the same time.
And you're not bothered about this. No. Yeah, I kind of like that. And I don't know music.
So it's so personal. Yes. I think when it comes to music, it's in like a completely different category than what we deal with on a day to day basis and no day of north, it's personal to people and it becomes enriched and part of their lives. I was very much like that.
Like in me early, you know, from being able to get in that mix to it was like, Oh shit, there's a different, I don't have to listen to the box. Any more? No, there's like there's a different aspect of music and I've always had an appreciation for music. I've grew up amongst it.
Like the Mamluvte, like the basic DC and then she moved on to some cool and and Phil Collins is a huge part of my life. I love Genesis. So soon. And I've been some of even as a young kid, I've been some like a music concert.
I never thought a million years or 13 years old, I'd be watching Michael Jackson and Sheffield. Not a million years and everything that was ever going to happen. But music, this is so personal to people and this is like this movie enriches that how personal that is. I love how passionate they are about the music as well.
Again, I know it's always like a joke and inside, we feel like we can have conversations with more people. I'd be terrified to have a conversation about music with these people, just how crazy, like how knowledgeable and literally how much everything kind of thing is that makes sense there? Oh, absolutely. I get scared of telling people who love music and who like these kind of like this kind of person that I hate the Pixies and I fell asleep and I said, because I thought it was boring because I know that that style of music is like beloved five people.
Yeah, I would never want to hold a conversation with them. Like, I know my sister calls me the Forest Gump of music. I mean, I have a tendency of them. If a band comes up, I'll go, I'll sing them.
Yeah. That's like one of those things that go on top five B sides on a single and they start near them and then Jack Black's not, you're going for the obvious ones and you throw it a new one or how much of a pussy are you and stuff like that? I was like, fucking hell. I was just like, yes, I do.
You say, true. I'm sorry. The first B side that comes to my head is fucking tragedy. Yeah.
By steps. I always remember when tragedy came out, I was like, okay. I think the only B side I remember is do the barman, that had a deeply trouble. Yes, Kelly Pixies that were absolutely abysmal.
Anyone's got different tears and different likes. I mentioned John Kousak in this as well. There's two bits and she plays like the between friend between Rob and Laura, like their characters is like the core between. I generally thought it was Rob's sister at first.
I mean, it was because it is John. It was like, are they doing real life? Are you because we don't really see it? Mm, like one relationship is it?
But when Laura tells her her side the story, we get Liz walking into the rock and says, hey, Rob, fuck you, it storms out. It's like, whoa, they probably Mormon. And then the sad moment when Laura's father dies and she's like the kind of like that recollection between Rob and Laura, but when they're out the funeral and Liz is clearly slagging Rob off and that argument is so well done but it's so uncomfortable to watch at the same time because you know what she's doing and it's probably gaslighting at the best time as well because he's like trying to defend himself and she's like, well, this isn't about you Rob, this is about Laura, but just clearly slagging him off naturally to anyone that would listen. And again, it's just done so well.
And like honestly, it's just like she clears such a small role, but she has such an impact in the movie that it leaves you shaking at times. This is why I assumed to a brother and sister because the way you spoke back to her was almost like how a brother would speak to their sister. Yeah, that was the kind of feel I was getting. I was like, oh, okay, so maybe it is a sister, even this sister, but maybe that is a sister that phone call when she rings up to tell her that that that that's died.
That felt like genuine pain. Yes. Yeah. And especially in the funeral as well.
Like I felt myself well enough because the cries felt so genuine. And I was like, and she's a really good actress. But she's been through some shit where she knows what that pain feels like. Yeah.
Because that was too, it was too real. No, it is heartbroken. But as we find out, like say early on in the movie that Rob's a bit of a twat. He's made something.
He's not a good person at all. No, he makes some interesting choices. It gets very selective with, because he gets annoyed when he finds out Laura's moved on. Like, and she's with Ian, it was Tim Robbins carat, overall he depended on the agreement.
Like, chemistry is just horrible. Like really, and Laura just don't mix or mash it all. It's like, I don't know. Do you know what reminds us of?
Discourse to you? Yeah. That's it. Oh, that's being buggin'.
It's when he's standing in the record, someone I'm like, do you look like it is discourse to you? The conversation that he, well, first off, the sex thing that he creates on his head is hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. And then the arguments he creates while he's standing in front of him.
That's even funny. It's the beat. It's the murder of himself. You don't know which one's going to be the real, and then one just walks out without saying anything.
It's like, oh, that's how he passes out. That's what that's how it would go with all that. That's how you do it. In your head, you create all these scenarios of like one shouting back, one coming up with some really witty like comeback, like where you'd devastating them or three, you beat the shit out with them.
But the end result is you actually don't see anything at all. Definitely. And as I said, as I said, when he, because Rob does some questionable things in this movie, like that game that border on to the point where you start disliking the character, because he asks questions, which everyone in the chat and everyone, like who's listening, if you haven't done this, you are bullshit. You are talking out of your ass.
So when you break up with someone, you're sad, and if you meet them again, and if they're with someone else, you will think in your head, have this like with each other yet. And that will drive you nuts. Well, John Kewesack asks the question, and she says no, which is great. And what he does, he goes out that night and bangs Lisa Bonair's character.
So he's like double standards. Oh, he's got massive double standards. Yeah. And then when he meets up with Laura a few weeks later, a few days later, and Laura and Yasuko the same question, and Laura, Casey, what would you like me to answer?
He says, I would like to tell you to tell me that you didn't sleep with him. And she goes, I can't. And he goes off in the mass of his feet. It's it's embarrassing.
And it's like a teenager going off. Well, that's that's I think that's what Rob's problem is throughout the film. He's still living teenage Rob's life. And doesn't know where he wants to go.
And he doesn't he doesn't understand relationships. He has a hands done, because he's got such a picture in his head of what he thinks the relationship is. And it's not until obviously right at the end where he has the huge revelation that every single thing that he did is a fantasy. It's all fantasy.
She is the only real thing and consistent thing that he has and it's taken him that long to realize it. Yeah. So it is a massive journey. Like he is a dick.
And the thing that happened with Laura. Now, I didn't know if this was true or not, but the way it was playing out, especially when John Quigzack walks in, and does the whole frog fuck you. But then you get the story is to why she said that. And it's like, one, he took four grand off her and never paid her back to she slept with someone else.
He's on a while she was pregnant. And she ended up having an determination. And what was the other one? And they had a conversation where he said he was looking around for someone else.
That's it. Yeah. And so that sounds really shitty until he explains it all. And in his way, it says, yeah, it's still shitty.
It's still not great. The money side, that's beside the point that money. And yeah, but the whole he did sleep with someone else. He had no idea that she was pregnant.
And even more shocked that she had a termination. And he did say, I was looking around for someone else. But she was trapped into that door. That's the thing.
And that was the conniving bit. She was like, she asked, we're not happy. He said, okay. And he said, would you be open to the idea of going to someone else?
And again, he was just being honest with her. But he was giving it the out that she wanted. But again, when you're going through all the past relationships, the first one being hilarious, he just used to make the end of bleachers and snug this young ass and the one deal he goes and just snug in someone else. They were together for four hours.
Yeah. And then four hours later, she was kissing someone else and she ended up marrying that person. And the whole journey on the movie is basically going to go find the four big greek or the four big heart greeks and see if he is the problem or what the problem was. And each time he's getting a little bit more growth.
But it's not kind of handling it in the right way. The first one he rings up and gets the last his mother and he's like, well, no, she married her first boyfriend. And he's been a dick about his getting up. That was me.
I was the first boyfriend. And just like, okay, Bob, how can I say? It's wrong. So that kind of moves on to that point.
Then the other one is a little bit, as I said, you get the college one, which is just, well, not college or high school, before college because it's actually heartbreaking. And how again, it's again, probably a male perspective, you don't see it. The female where, is that where he's just like, Oh, I just want to touch a boob. And she's like, I'm not ready for you to touch my boob.
I like yeah, I've got feelings for you. But I'm not about CMC and he's like, well, not accepting. So again, that was a bit hard to watch there. But you see it from his side, like she's because he's made it out in the head that she's like this put out queen and she's like, had all these men and this, and he's thinking to himself, then why am I not special?
Why is she not doing this for me? And it turns out she wasn't like that at all. It was all just talk. And she really was, she really liked him.
And she really was weird now for the right time for her. And he was a dick about it. As we all and which is again, I can understand, as I said, thankfully he didn't do it. Thankfully he didn't go beyond what he could have done.
Yeah, because that could have been, you know, that could have taken that character in such a dark place. There's no way he could get out with that. Yeah, it would have been a different film and probably people would be enjoying it as well. The other thing, the other one is a little bit more sad, two people going through break ups and the next one's Charlie, the world Charlie is where he felt he was going over there, but he was intimidated or he couldn't live up to her standard.
This is Catherine's either doing a bigger than life personality sexy woman. That noise is worth, no one's watching it and just got bored of him basically. The thing is though, we've known people like that, especially in college. They're so good at talk and they can convince you of their own bullshit.
Yes. Until you finally start to break it down and you're like, oh, and then when you met up with the late run, it's just like, no, you're an asshole. And then he asked why me, why did this happen? And she's brutally honest to the point where I kind of think it made the realizers and go, okay, I can understand that there.
And the next break ups to the sad one where you feel a bit sorry for a waffle going through a bad time and hooked up. She moved on quicker than him and he went back and she like, seen him live in a state country, could have basically went back there. And he made the right choice. That was again, That was not a good place to be.
No, I thought it was very confident for them. They were both in the same position. It looked like more friendship than it did anything else, especially when they're sitting cuddling on the bed together. It was such a, I don't know, they're just, it's a very confident for them.
And I was like, Oh gosh, it's the man from the country. I never know her name. And when he goes back to actually still in that same place. Yeah, and he's not, which is thankfully, as I said, we're growth.
But I think, and again, the big problem Laura had and like why Laura moved on is because Rob was such in a place in life where he was miserable. He hated everything. He hated himself. It was such a miserable person.
So it was bringing her down and she, as I said, she is made clear through this film, she's not looking to get married. She's not looking to have like the family-like side of things. All she wanted was to be happy because she, because I think there was a conversation to have, which is quite funny and it's like, Oh, you've come back to this dump. Why did you ever move in?
Because you were here. I wanted to be with you. And I thought that was quite a touching thing. And when they had conversations, it was almost like she was fighting not to be with them.
And as we find out, that was kind of the case when she picks them up in the most embarrassing way out of father's funeral. When he leaves and does the right thing, he apologizes and says, Oh, I'm sorry. And it's probably one of the most heartfelt stories that you say on screen. It was sincere.
It was so sincere because it wasn't. And she knew that she knew it wasn't it. I'm sorry. You've lost your dad.
It's just, I'm sorry. Yeah, but everything that had been caused and everything as well. And throughout this movie, again, I've not got any quotes. I should have already thought about that.
The dialogue in this movie is unbelievable. And like the way the people like deliver the dialogue, like everyone who's part of it is just like, it's a cap to be a chair. And I know why Kelly loves this thing because it's a movie about music, but it's almost like a, it's almost like you're watching a book being developed, like in front of your eyes, because of the dialogue, because the dialogue's so rich and so like almost enhancing the scenery around it. Oh, yeah, it's very, it's so grown up as well.
It's so grown up to the point when he's doing his reshuffle of them. He's reshuffle of his albums and he's not doing chronological order. No, he's not doing alphabetical order. He's not doing alphabetical order.
He's doing it in what do you say? It's semi biographical. So basically, if he bought someone a present and didn't give him it, it's in the pile that exit, why you kept it typing? Yeah, just mind blowing me.
And there's probably people out there that do that, which again, as a collector, I can understand, but I have no time or patience for that shit. No, I like to have things in a certain way. So I like to have like things set up to where they owe me horror stuffs together on me. So what do you know what I mean?
That's as far as I go. I mean, books are exactly the same. So me books because my books is probably the biggest collection that I have. I've got horror.
I've got an answer room, graphic novels and bio biographies. In the living room, I've got all the books I want to read. And then I've got me Game of Thrones and Lord of the Rings. So I have them that's about as far as I'll go, but I will not put them in like order or anything.
But yeah, really crazy. But again, and it's with this movie as well, it's got the big performances, it's like the little things in the movie that always I remember most. Like the interaction when someone comes in off the streets and sees Jack Black's Barry's poster for band members. And he looks like the most metal rock guy that's ever been.
And their interactions saw casual and just like, he's like, oh, you're looking for a band. Yeah. And Barry's like the most when he's saying earlier or same in any sense, he's the most exciting little bunny rabbit. He's Jack Black, but just a little bit torn down.
He's not like quite a Jack Black from School of Rock. But he's kind of like, but still hyper. But on this thing, he's quite torn back and placid and just not really over selling that and like understated. Sorry.
And he's going through this conversation. He's got deep lane instruments. He's going, nope. It's good.
What do you do? He's good things. Could I write them? He's given the guys write down numbers.
So there's me number. This is where we're going to be practicing be there when choosing that. He's getting right on. And they do like a really awkward fist bump type thing.
Yeah. They don't know what to do. Like a high five fifty one. There's no way to go.
Yeah. And then as I said, Jack Black's characters is just no sound. They're like, Oh, this is just another day. And John Kursack's Rob's is like, what's going on, man?
This is the first time someone's came in and looked at me for a in a thousand years. What's happening? And he's like, Oh, it is what it is. Just, yeah, you know, you know, I can sing a little bit.
And the statement of the year. Yes. It doesn't really play off to the end because him and Rob's character has a bit of a combustible friendship. But they can tell almost brotherly because as I tell you, the start of the movie, these two guys when he hired to come in three days a week and just start coming in every day of the week and he can't get rid of them because they're working for free.
Yes. But the have arguments have little fights. But they'll have a big below as well because the kids who chop lift, leave a tip in the store and Rob walks in and listen to music and Jack Black and Dick's character is busy looking, saw Mulligan holly looking sad. And it's almost like they have basically given up and was like, Oh, right?
Who's this? And they're like, Oh, it's such and such from outside. And Jack Black's just goes, it's so fucking good. And Rob's really good.
So he goes out and he goes and finds them. And he's like, this is, as I said, out of Rob's being on his massive journey. And we realized like Rob's not wanting to just lie. And this is where it kind of takes up and goes, I'm going to press you an album.
I'll recover my costs. And then you get everything over it. And then Jack Black's got to listen to the eye goes, we're there, you're going to produce an album for them. He's good.
Yeah. And he's good. Well, I'm like, say, one of the most talented people you will ever meet. And why are you not doing an album for me?
He's like, because they've got a band you haven't. And he's like, I've got Sonic death monkey. Sonic fucking death monkey. Oh, name that all that band name is so cool.
Even though he doesn't use it in the end, but it's so cool. But the reveal at the end is so perfectly done. Because because with the love story, you think it's going to be a nice happy ending, which kind of is in a way to agree. But Rob Ben Rob, I guess, yeah, beautifully young lady walks into this door and she works for like a music magazine.
And he gets like his eyes turned. So he starts to check she's interested. And it's like almost like someone's paying me attention. Again, it's almost like Chris, it's like, take a Chris, give Chris attention.
Chris will fall in love with you. That's how it works. Yes. So that's what pretty much happens to Rob.
And then he's sitting in Megan, her a mixed hip. And Laura says the signs and goes, okay, but she doesn't kick off because she's she even she kind of she doesn't leave it. And then they have a meeting you expect the kind of the meet up you think Rob's going to break up with it? Yeah, that's what that was my impression of her.
Sorry. Yeah, because he was saying he was sat there and he was like, although he threw the film Rob's talking to the camera. Yeah. And he's he said, we've had such a great time.
And it's like until now. Yeah. And I'm like, Oh, what have you done? You're just you're such a broken person that you can't accept like happiness.
You can't accept change. You're a dick. You really are. And that's not how it goes.
No, he asks a certain Maria in the most unromantic way. And she responds perfectly, by the way, like her responses. And he's like, did you expect me to say yes? And his speech is perfect.
And I know what sounds bad, like if you listen to it, the way he's describing how he sails towards her, that to me, and again, send like, you know, when you first fall in love with someone, you get all the like the butterflies, you get all the honeymoon period, where everything is dialed up to 11. But that that that's great at the start. And that's perfect. But the real love and the real commitment to me is the person that you're with 10 years later.
And you're still not bored with them. You're still like to be in their company. You still enjoy having conversations with with that person. And again, I know it might not sound as romantic and special, but it's fucking whole heartily.
I agree with everybody said, yeah, it was real. It was incredibly real. And you saw right like me and I thought we'd get it 18 years. Like it says something like, I love spending time with him.
He makes me laugh ridiculous amounts, but we the conversations never died out and I totally got what he was saying. And it was the whole it's a 2010 run. And he was like, they're all fantasies. That it was them words that stuck with us when he was like, they're fantasies and you're real.
And you're very much what I want and need. Yeah, I think the need part is that that's the thing. Because I know it sounds weird because then you can go through your life and I'm saying you have to have a partner. But when you've got someone who you connect with on such a level and like the level that Robin Rora connects that you don't need anything else.
And she kind of gets it as well. And she understands. And again, like she doesn't want to get married and he just says it was like, yeah, it was because I asked the question and she went, yeah, you did. And that probably meant more to her than going down the aisle and having the big show.
It's to know it's to know sometimes it's more to know that that's where you would say you see yourself that's the only place that you see yourself as being with them to the point of marriage. It doesn't mean that you have to go ahead and do it. I mean, Christ, me and I put together 13 year before we even got married. And but it was always something that we were like, oh, we will do one day.
But it was never the, you know, be all an end or we were almost like a we, you know, we were married couple before even signed a piece of paper. Yeah. And again, that's as I said earlier, to me, this is probably the most truest representation of like a love story or real love that I've watched in a comedy store dark. It gets dark at times.
It's not like where there's death and stuff, but there is elements where you're like, oh, oh, oh, but it's real long. Like for all that he's he has such a different talent towards women because I even like points out what was it? John Dylan, you got shot behind that theater. And even claims of women for that.
Yeah. And it's like, oh, how, how, how was a woman broke you to this point where you feel this way about them? And then when you look back, they didn't, you did it to themselves. Yeah.
And that's the realization, again, for this movie. And I think it's so well done. And again, with other actors or with other people playing it, I don't think it would have had the punch or as done as well, especially with John Cusack's character just being John Cusack in a way, but he oozes like confidence and smarmy or down being so well, like in the movies that he does. And this one he comes across, as you said, there's times that you feel sorry for them, the times that you hear them, there's times you, you're you're just cheering for them.
And then there's times where you understand anything shit. I get that. I've done similar things, not to the degree, but I've done similar things where I can relate to them as well. And then we have two moments in this movie that absolutely brought me completely when I first watched it.
The first one is when having the party and he is basically saying, oh shit, I've got to introduce Jack Black's band now. And he's basically, I should have, I should have, I should have played the whole album because I have an album launch for the band that he was taking on because he's doing it, he's going to try his own record label. And he actually played the whole album before he got up, the next row, when did six, so it's done with? Well, I'm sorry, just before we go under it as well, the name of the record label, perfect.
What was it? Top five, top five records. But yeah, it's like almost like he had that plan. Yes.
So, playing with the soul of the three of one. And he introduces the band in the most lacklustre we're. It's like, please, God, doesn't want this to happen. Really?
Because the command you expect, like, the first to surprise you with the way the dress goes, the making that jobs. Yeah, the main Jack Black had before with the guy with the rock, he thought it was going to be like a metal band. And even the guy's like, well, metal and stuff. Yeah, you look so metal.
Yeah. He looks like he's from Seattle. Yeah. And so then the band dressed up like basically a backing group from J.
M is Brown, like with the pedal suits all the dining and anything. All right. And so what they're going to play it. And all you hear is do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do.
And he hears. And I was saying, but I can't Jack Black's thing and let's get it on. And it's, you know, and it is absolutely no perfect. And seeing John Koussak's Rob's character's reaction is magic.
It is pure gold. Yeah, it's it's crazy that the realization of, oh, this isn't a shit sandwich. I thought it was going to be it's going to be very interesting and very special. So and again, that was something that kind of resonated.
I was like, good. And if he ended it there, I thought, yeah, but it didn't. And this is one of the ones where, and again, I know I've slagged off multiple endings on other movies. So we see a number of times on these and these podcasts.
This time it kind of fits because you kind of get a little bit of resolution. It's like Rob's character completely redeems himself in this one moment. And he's not about doing a top five. He's got this top five isn't about me.
It's about Laura and the things I think she like and I think that she'll like going forward. And I've worked out how to do that. And I think great. He's got it.
That block now is going to have such a great life because he's busy, realized what he wants and who he wants to be with. And he's not going to be like everyone next mistake. Everyone's fucked up from time to time. No one's ever going to be perfect.
But he's got the resolution and realization of what his life is going to be or what his life would have been if it went a different path. And I just thought it was like really ponyan and done picture perfect. Well, yeah, it was everything that was about her. And it was a mixed tip for her.
And he's like, it's going to take hours. But I don't care. It's worth it. Yeah.
And I just think as a movie, if you're going to like end it, like that's especially if it's a love story. And again, I know it keeps him to a realistic little story as well. I just thought, yeah, clap, well done. I'll help you with that.
Yeah, I just I knew the minute it came on when I saw the aesthetic of it all. And I was like, Oh, this is right of my fucking street. Like, how have I gone this long without ever watching it? And I don't know if it's because, like I said earlier, gross point plan goes when I'm I don't I don't get it.
I don't particularly get junk use that half the time. So maybe that's what put us off. But every time I've seen something with that man in, I have never been disappointed. So I don't know why I have that feeling instantly of Oh, it's jumped.
What was the last thing John Q's I knew I was meant to look at something that's not enough for God. It was a that's what I remember was the cell that's even King one. Didn't we do rooms? It doesn't have a few quite a long time.
That was a quite a long time. But I think the cell came out to a lockdown, but it's pretty nice. I don't need a brilliant movie. Right, right, right, right.
I just known from Connor. Yeah, but the buddy put the buddy back in the box. But yeah, um, but yeah. So with the first watching, what are you gonna rate this movie out of five?
I'm gonna give it a five. You're gonna give it a five a strong five. I'm gonna give it a strong five static story development, like personal growth was shown in it and it was incredibly real. And if I don't pick my phone up during a film, then it's done its job.
I do this with every film and this is the reason why I love me again. And today I didn't want to make any noise. I just wanted to talk about the movie in itself. I didn't want to go and have a look and because I looked at the IMDb afterwards and I was like, Oh, that's a lot.
I'll leave that to you. But I do after every movie, I go and always check IMDb. I go and check out all the facts and if they're interested in us, which I've found on some of them, they are this one. I just wanted to come in with people feeling like I just wanted to be able to talk about what I'd just seen as opposed to going, well, this happened there and this happened there.
Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. This one is just a pure emotion. I think that's why I love this movie.
Absolutely. Some movies work. Like the top me head top gun so much went on in production of that movie that you cannot not talk about it. But this one, it's got such an enriched story and plotted it.
The whole thing about it, like you don't need the film can speak for itself. You don't need the background on it. If you want to go and look at the background, IMDb is there. I don't have to bore you with it.
Yes. But again, it's one of their movies. There's nothing a single note or a second that would change in this movie. It's got so much nostalgia, so much feelings.
I watched it again this time when we got back from the con. I still felt the same way of watching it now that I did when I first watched it. It's one of those movies where it does it again. If you talk about top 5, it's a movie that does flow in my top 5 quite often.
It's something called... Hasn't it been in your top 5? Possibly. It has been in before.
But it does flow. It's been in me before. We all know top 5 can flow and change. One question I wanted to ask to watch in this movie as well, Sami.
What's your top 5 songs to be cleared out for your role? I only have one. I've said this since the day I heard it and it was probably back in the early 2000s and it's not the entirety of the song. It's just part of it.
It's November reigned by Guns N' Roses. You want to go to the girls? But it's not the actual singing. It's when...
So when Slash gets up on the piano, if you're watching the music video, it gets up on the music and he starts doing the whole orchestra starts kicking in and then he comes in with his guitar solo and is... That is what I want at my funeral. I can't quite decide if I want to go in or I'd probably come in out because it's so epic and so dramatic. That's my exit music.
Anthony's got a whole album. But that's the only song that ever comes to mind when I think of funeral songs. I know me... Anne Scrinder had a ragtime.
It was going in. It was like Unchained Melody or something. So it was like like heartbreak and song and it was such a lovely service and then all of a sudden it went deadly silent. This ragtime band started playing and I was like, well it's a bit unexpected.
That was an expectant. But then it totally changed my mood. I probably scored it 20 like, say it to one three, that reaper or something like that. Me Mams is...
Oh, what is it? Oh, I just do love soul swimming in a fishbowl. Here at the year. What's that one?
Oh yeah, I can't remember the band. Next one. Kelly will probably be able to tell you that one but no. Kelly, tell us.
Please ask me Mams. Let me dance in there. Time to say goodbye. Michael had love Shaq.
That's brilliant. That is so good. There are times of a change in it or something like that. I just can't even think of...
That's the only song that ever comes to me. The only person we had to twat when it comes to talking about stuff like this because I would go and remember this is the song that I want. I was like, oh, you don't have to remember stuff like this and go, no, no, I'll be there. I'll be there.
Pink Floyd, thank you, Kelly. Thank you. See, Kelly, Naws. I probably have a landslide.
I love landslide. I think that's such a beautiful song and it is about obviously getting all down and things coming to an end so no slides are a good one. Also, the pissing off as well, probably is like a free bird just how long it is. Yeah, you get to get an entirety.
Listen to the full song and all the solos. Don't your dad cut this off, bitch. Yeah. Oh god, it's such a hard one because I don't think you want to picture me feeling what to start with.
Well, then it's all that I'll do. Let's take our eyes and what would it look like if Sunny died? Everyone would be very miserable for a place for you as well. Oh, okay.
We'll have to replace your monsters. Third time. Yes, Kelly, landslide. Yeah.
Um, yeah and it's got like a whole fucking album. I don't even think it half the shitty comes out with my fat bottom girls by your queen or something else. I'm sure one of them is a two-pack song. All right.
Care, the four one, yeah. Oh, no, it's not. I'm not going to see it. I'm not going to see it on you while it's falling.
We need a incredibly derogatory song. I don't know. I'm going to let her wedding, I was like, did you not have a knot or you don't have a knot? Oh, well yeah, I think we We had close by now.