Nerdy Up North Podcast - Kevin Smith Nerd Talk

I wish you would have shown that later. So we are live now. Hi everyone and welcome to another episode of the Nerdy Up North podcast. It's a Nerdy podcast hosted by Northern Nurse.

I'm one of the other hosts, Paul. I forgot my name there for a second. Perhaps influenced you. Yes.

This is where the heart should be signed. All of a sudden comes up with something really important and painful. It's not going to happen. So this week we are joined by the lovely Donna and her coopies and Grant is joined us as well.

I'm excited to add a bit of flavor to the topic. Shall we say? I'll get a comment about Michael. He's got the best on specifically to show Donna up.

To be fair, there's not much flavor to that. Oh, there we go. So I'm in front of us already. So yes, this week we are going all shall we say a raunchy and a bit depraved.

The pre-ev isn't really right. The word version. Well, it can be in some ways, but then it can also be so lovely as well. I'll bring the lovely side.

I'm going to be on my best behavior. I understand grants here. Every time Grant's being on, I've always said something that's a bit in the arse later on. Still haven't gotten past the broadies saying yes.

So I am on my best behavior. So we're going to be quite listening. Just talking about eating ass there. Yeah, I was going to be biting your ass.

I already have. That's a type of notice. I'm not talking about eating as well guys. Don't worry.

Cool. Well, oh my god, Grant. Well, before we get into it tonight's episode, which is all about the amazing Kevin Smith. Because he is a god.

I was trying to think of the right words to describe him. He's just a god in my eyes. He is a god. I will say I can't stand there.

King of the, I was thinking King of the nose. He's just, he's just, oh, he's amazing. So I'm putting it in the way with first and then we'll crack on. So anything that's supposed to take us to our opinions and our opinions along.

If you would like to discuss any of the topics from science, please come and join us in the Facebook group and we can have a moment to session. What we want to have is anyone coming for us and tell us our opinions are wrong. We can agree to disagree in family. So let's keep the phone, keep it kind and keep the toxic behavior out and nerd and.

And keep it nerdy guys. That's the main thing. Yes. Just before we get started with the love fest and your starting to convince us.

And just want to say a big shout out to the group. We hit 4,500 members this week. We've sort of grown quite a big, a lot of notes now, which is still surprising. We did do a voice where we want to start reviewing a movie a month based on, like, say the choices of the team podcast and this week's, well, this week's episode, but we'll fit it in at this month anyway.

It's been won by the fabulous Donna who picked. Shall we see an interesting choice? I don't know if you want to tell us who the choice of the film there is Donna. Yes.

Excellent. We're going to be reviewing a lot more as voted by the people of Nodipnos. And the people better for tuning the watch as well. You're bloody better.

I'm a bit too bad though. I didn't do too bad at all. I was quite pleased with that. But Donna, well done.

You did it. I'm not going to watch it now. Come on. Let's kick off for Kevin Smith.

Let's get into this. Certainly. So I would love to know about like, say, starting points because I know it's weird because the certain films and stuff you can remember when you first got introduced. I can pretty much remember the time and even like the stage of my life where I got introduced to the Kevin Smith movies, which was a bit strange.

So we'll start with the fabulous Donna. She's not smart yet tonight. Sorry. So we can't call her Twintles Donna.

So what was your introduction and like, say, how did you get into Kevin Smith? I think my first introduction was Marlley. I wasn't. I think it's Marlley.

And from now, I guess the comedy is just like goofy fun comedy. It's like, you know, when you may have figured out when the shit you would say it. And it's just kind of like realistic and stuff you would generally do. And from now, I wanted to go check out Marley stuff.

I think I could shout out. I think Marly rats again, same with me was probably the gateway I fell in for a lot of people in for Kevin Smith. I think mine was when I was just at college again, similar to you. I hadn't heard anything of these stuff.

I think I saw an advert from Marly rats because it bombed big style in the data. And it was like for the day of the year chess rental that was came out. And I had a few stoner friends and decided to do one of the next day. I think this is what we're talking about for Storna humour as well.

But as soon as they introduced this, I was hooked and the humour was just up there. And I think as Donna said, it's walked like the dialogue and it didn't treat the audience like idiots, which a lot of seven Smith movies do a lot of the teen romps or anything like that kind of do. What I say when you talk about the American pies, good films, but they do like paint it by numbers and treat like the audience, like the students at times as well. But with this, the dialogue and the interactions is the type of conversations we were having at college.

I was talking with friends like Greener and Dixon, like what would happen if Superman bang velocity and what he shot blow out of the backside. I can hear them conversations. Would the thing in this copy is made as rock? I could say I was fascinated by Mr Fantastic.

How stretchy he's got. Cos I was a set of dinners. And as I said, would slide my bang like upside down? Like you did give that kiss to MJ.

But to be honest, if I could have tried all the different tricks, I'll be trying some kinky positions. Let's be honest. Yeah. I think more of that was probably the gateway to a career as well.

Not mine. Not mine. It's same time period. It ran about the same time, like maybe last year of school, best year of college maybe.

So you look at my 99, 2000 and it was dogma. Right. And it was like a spiritual awakening. It had a poop monster in it.

It was like it was comedy I'd never seen before. Like I've never seen that level of humor before. And obviously you had Jane Silent Bob. Alan Rickman was involved in the dogma.

Very much. And that was like my gateway into it. So then from then went obviously well rats. And again, it was just it's relatable.

Like too relatable. And it just spanned from there. And it's become a love of essence. Probably 1999 and still going so strong today.

Talking about it's like one of the top 10 years of Kevin Smith's films. The performances in it, I know he gets a lot of shit for like the local these funders stuff. But that one a lot of professional and I say, I know Alan Rickman, he's brilliant in anything he does. But I don't think I feel like and I haven't get as much credit for their performances in that film as well.

Because you can't take eyes on it and they say the transformation of the journey that I can say where all the doers want to go to the point where they're in Affleck's full pop lips one and death and becomes full villain as well. I love that scene when he's flying down and dropping people in the church. Yeah. He's got that look on his face, the smile you look like he was in in Morbax when he was trying to find people in an uncomfortable position.

Yes. It's got to be all them type of jokes as well. So yes, we are a dogma. Like I said, one of probably one of Kevin Smith's greatest accomplishments to do it.

I would say easily. Oh, 100%. And Alan is very set as college genius idea. Well, it's good to play a God.

I know genius idea. Like at the time she was like everything, especially the fact that Jack and Little Pill was probably still sitting in the tape deck somewhere or be portable Walkman. And yeah, that was just genius move. So Donald was my career grand.

Literally everyone what you said. It was a dog. I can't remember how I saw it. I might have seen it the cinema or I might have seen it on the pigorate or something like that.

I love George Carlin. Yeah. I thought he got the right George Carlin. Literally a door is stand up.

It speaks to me on so many levels. So many popped up in the first scene. I was like, all right, this is going to be good. And then watch it through was blown away by it equally a door jagged little pill.

So when the lones were as I came out, it was just like, it's the fucking perfect movie. I just thought, well, I don't want anything else. But I'll never. And then a few mates will have you seen the other ones.

Yeah, exactly the same. Oh, there's so many good things about dog. Like said, like, if you think of all the cameos and all the different performances in it as well, like even Chris, right isn't annoying in the film, which is quite surprising. As playing at the apostle, like say, it's about the word of the Lord Jesus and how he ordered 20 bucks and stuff like that.

But I think it really falls out the sky and he's like a black man's like, getting mad Santa Bob's court and he's going to be drunk at the back. So it's not wrong. Like, I've got new answers and little in jokes and stuff that do. And I love how the amp G hope in this as well.

The taking like, say, not just like, G was always like a level. And this time he went on to where he went all spinal top and went up to 11. With his crewness and how he was just was to all he was talking was the talking and stuff like, and the jokes and as well. And he said, if you know everything that tells about tell us secrets about that you master bit more than any other person in this world and it's good shit.

And tell me something I don't know. So I don't think about guys when you see the face and it's just absolutely hilarity. It's, it is Jay and he's buying us because after that he goes on his downward spiral and he's I think one of them, Oh gosh, what's at the dogma. Yes, I can start off.

I can start off. Sorry, you can't remember doing it. You physically can't remember doing it. He had to be forced to come set and he was completely not least off his rocker.

And so yeah, you got dogma. That's the pinnacle of G. And I think it was brought back in reboot and I'll thank anyone for that. I love seeing Jay right now.

I love seeing how happy you did. I hate them teeth, but I just, I just, I just spent up to his fault really now. No, but then she's like, he paid money for that. And that's like, he's a beautiful smile.

Now he's got these big white false teeth and they're like, Oh, what happened there? Well, her and does a wonderful thing to your teeth. So you can say that's what my father did. You're also in the bottom of the sink somewhere.

I was going to ask you to say I'd rather say like that than coming. That's true. That is true. In dogma as well.

I love the story. I think I told him a previous podcast. I'll tell it again is when Kevin Smith told you, Jason used the one side and said, look, in the previous ones out of Phaedis lines and each thing he was in because he couldn't remember shit. And I went, look, this is a proper film.

I've got serious actors with what Alan recommended. He's a British actor. And if you don't know your lines, he's going to fucking kick the shit out with you. So he actually put the fear of God in the room with the main dog as well.

So that he's not only learned his own lines, he learned the lines of the full hall fucking cast. So he knew what everyone else was going to say when I was going to see it. And it was probably like, you can tell because he was prepared. Everything just hits the points.

Even like, say the jokes when at the end when the thing the world's going to end and he grabs next to one side and think, oh, he's trying to be safe. He's going to have a redeemer more than no. He's trying to fuck up. Exactly.

He's full on Jia. He is like, you can tell he's on his absolute ear game in dogma. Like, he was great in mall rats, but that was just another extension of clerks Jia because I hadn't like fully established him yet. But I think I put all the time, I think it's about 15 minutes at the most where he had a busy run this movie.

This was the full song. But I love how Kevin Smith cast themselves in any film as well. It wasn't really meant to be Kevin Smith. It wasn't meant to be Donnie.

No, I wasn't. It was I've gone to it was. Brian Johnson. Brian Johnson.

That was it. Brian Johnson. Yeah, Brian Johnson is the real handle. Is it John T or Randall?

It's like the one that he has. He is a compliment. He is Randall. He is a compliment.

And you know what, though? I've read Kevin Smith's book. He brought a book out as like a diary entries of when he moved to Los Angeles and he used to have a giant silent Bob stop in Los Angeles and Brian Johnson read it, but he didn't. He never showed up for work.

He really was the true life. That shot went down so quickly. Brian Johnson is one of my husband's heroes. And he is a patriot.

He is a patriot. He absolutely adores them. We follow them for years before comic book men. And it comes from the line in mole rats.

Tom Steve Dave. Well, doesn't there like Brian Johnson still just like doesn't work. He just lives on the right the right thing. He gets from mole rats.

That's how he still lives. He's like, no, so I don't do it. Oh, no, no, no. The Tom Steve David is like massive.

It was it was always big to start with because of the topic of conversation and obviously comic book men came out and made it even bigger. Right now the like Walt doesn't work in the shop anymore. Mike Zastic is the manager. All right.

Meanture never worked in the shop. And but the start now to do a series of telling the secrets of comic book men and answers is fantastic. Like it really is fantastic. Is that on the podcast or is that on like say like the comic book men the series?

No, no, no, no, this is on the podcast. I was going to start talking about it. So the telling all the secrets of comic book men, but Q was meant to be in comic book men instead of me. But you couldn't do it because of the job is right.

So it would be a very different dynamic. Definitely was like a women boy. He's got the other guy. Also absolutely here.

The guy. So after some intent to hit and negative to be able to find them, she's already talked about here. He's just so small. And he's just come up with a guy.

He's a great guy. That's a good word. I mean, he's so nice. So coming back to the normal, you know, let's go back to West side.

And I guess after watching all of us, like we're grand said, he went back to revisit. What came before. And I went back to the original and the grand break and just basically the unbelievable for what's what the dates with what it costs. I know you can tell it's shot and I treat production and stuff, but what a film.

I say what a dialogue. What that script must have been gold and soon as I think it wins. And then I'm done. Yeah.

But I actually had a door to click when I watched out for the first time. I thought it was very life. I thought this was a documentary. Yeah, it was so flying on the wall, wasn't it?

The way that it was shot. And it was so different as well. But to know the backstory of like how Kevin got it made, like he had to sell his whole comic book collection and he got money off a hurricane and one of his cars. It was all on credit card as well.

Like, yeah, yeah. He gambled big and like say, if that wouldn't pay it off that fuck. Yeah. He won he won.

Him and his business partner Scott Moshe. They definitely won on that. Wasn't like six or seven credit cards. He max out phone as well.

About 20 grand. 20,000 in credit cards. I think when he put in his autobiography in the book, says that that was as much as the code get and everything else was just as I said, the film and when they were meant to be working as well. So when they're in the convenience stop, like they were actually working in the convenience stop.

That's only time they could actually film it. And the fact that the World of Flanagan is five different characters is just genius. So the film a little bit through the Nant, isn't that why the show is that I'm in the first place? It was nice to the fact that it was nighttime.

Yeah. But clever way to get around it as well. Like I said, getting gum in the locks. I'm sure you we are open today.

So I can say that sign is iconic. I can say, well, the funny guy, I know he was a few different roles in that film. I know we've all watched it. What was your favorite World Flanagan moment in Clerks?

Is it that a guy? That guy was good. Don't know. I'm going to see him.

Yeah. Grant. Wasn't aware of this guy. He played multiple roles.

I'm going to say that one. That's him. He played so many roles in the film. The guy that was in the prime start, he was a guidance person, like, say, having a meaningless job trying to pick the jobs for people and stuff like that.

That was the story behind it. But I liked the event of guy who was standing there. And Randall was talking about something so offensive. And he went and he just was the worst act.

And I know some of the act in Clerks was terrible. It was the worst act. And he just got blasted down. He goes, I'm really offended by what you're saying.

I'm going to complain. And Don is like, Oh shit. And then it looks like we kind of got carried away. And Randall's like, fuck him.

Well, well, well, that I'm dreamed of being an after-all. I'm not sure he's thought that probably why. I said, there's so many good things in Clerks. I'm just going to start to finish.

It's an absolute triumph, like comedy genius and court building. Like we were going before the podcast start. We were going to go to the elements of like Grandalek, have his moment to say what we were quoting. He's just, are you going to do it?

I was saving the 37 Dicks bit. It's a great moment. I've done it on that passing couch. I was just going to throw it at her at one point.

I just want to crumble and watch. How many dachies don't make it in a row? I've got my passing couch out because that's actually what I'm going to do is I'm going to go and get them all lined up. I'm going to take something more colorful.

I was like I said, that's called conversation as well as just what conversations you had was like people and stuff. And how men reacted to them type of conversations when it was okay for men to sleep or get in many blow jobs. For a woman to be free in 37 Dicks was like the reaction was just so queer and so at the time I think. Because I think it was just before when women sexuality was allowed to be promiscuous or be like the male kind of works where like say slag shame and slag shame and was being frowned upon as well.

So it kind of brought forward a lot. And even though it is smoky humor, it does shine a light on a lot of things quite after the time. So I never thought I'd say something so great political. I think because at the time it wasn't Madonna allowing women to explore sexuality like that she was the one who was really bringing the fall for him.

So him just adding to the narrative just as an artist. That's good. I feel with the narrative as well. I've got the so many like books like from like the Russian guy singing berserk a song, which is suck my cup of zerke.

Did you just say making fuck? You can say what's going to happen. Re-enact clerks. Well, I think it's the funniest part of that movie though.

Is when Kate Lefuk's the dead guy in the back. Oh, good God, I'm bad about that. And she comes out all satisfied and fulfilled and never been like that. You just sat there and let me do whatever I wanted.

You made me think what the fuck did she do to that guy? And the quote like Brody as well. Brody was in this film. It makes it more like that.

Did he come? He would have asked the question. He would have asked the question. And Jason Leeser in this one.

No, no, he didn't make his debut tomorrow. But I'd say the introduction of Randall as the character. And when he walks on the screen and he just stands next to that blast that video store and just has a casual conversation and how that plays out. And what film you're looking for?

Yeah, that's all. That one in the window. And then he's just having waiting for it for the last half hour. So I get that film before you.

And he's like fuck you too. He's like five bucks I get before. And he just walks us into the convenience store. Here's some shit there.

Don't be in the famous lines. I'm not even meant to be here today. And then goes back and then her face when she realizes he's the clerk. He's the guy that runs the store.

She's not getting the movie. Just not. Jeff Anderson just players that part. So well.

Like when you watch it like in the second mirror. The minute he comes on screen, I'm expecting Randall. Yes. That's what I'm expecting from Jeff Anderson all the time.

There is still and I'm not going to. I don't like incredible character. It's perfect. And it is so Bryan Johnson.

It's scary. The thing is all with the Randall code as well. Everyone actually wrote about after again, was expecting him to be the next big thing was actually along for the other Massafol now kevin Smith as well. So I don't think he actually made up until Zamari.

So that was a developer. It was just to. It was clerk's two. Yeah, it was clerk's two.

And yeah, they had it Massafol and I overall at least cause I'm sugar Kevin in order of a distribution because I don't think he owns Mollrats. I don't think he owns it until a few years time. these, especially for the cast and I think japaneseon really took it to heart and that's why because klecks too was meant to come out pretty quickly and that's why it took so long for it to get made because he wouldn't do it without him. Yeah, I've to be fair I'm glad they're weird as long as they did because I don't think it would have had as much of an impact but I love like I said what happened with klecks too but we'll come to that in a moment but I say all the elements as well like how darn is not satisfied in a relationship that's the last was pretty perfect and doing everything for him trying to push him but he always had this like say Kevin as the dream and how we got a little cat yeah but uh and that was the whole story like as much of a pussy don't hear was he couldn't make his mind up on make a decision which again so many elements and I love how a lot of them elements played into future films as well not just like say the introduction of jn sannabob and like say the quicks up but like say the funeral scene and how that played out in uh in the mall rat as well so the funeral that actually attended was the funeral I can't remember the name where the brain hemorrhage when she was swimming oh yes and she did oh god I can't remember what any of this but yes that is referenced again that's so good yeah but like say there's all elements in there but I love the fact of not just that but when they go back into like say more rats and then like say jn sannabob even if people play different characters they're still referencing emcee and kind of like binafflek playing holding McNeil and then what was he called in uh and then then that Shannon can't remember what he's saying him is it's shouting something I guess possibly but there's so many elements and I loved as I said the Star Wars references throughout yeah that's exactly what I wanted to get to next was the Star Wars and the fact that they referenced it in four so wagons too genius love it yes Martin has brought up and thank you everyone who's in the chat tonight em Martin's brought up the Star Wars the contract with the same yes yes again we had back to be at our college we had that conversation like say as I said in the and the thing going back to clerks the first Star Wars for them everyone was an imperial everyone knew what they were doing everyone was drinking the Kool-Aid so when the deaths came about it was there one fault so when the contractors and the death in in jedi and was some innocent stuff that the like say that that was flawed wasn't so was the was the kill worth it yeah I think Martin's confused by no Shannon was the was Ben Affleck's character not Shandori I know who that is yes so let me move off from the chat so yes yes I was just checking this I was actually named to what Ben Affleck's name was because he's really annoying us it's column there Uncle Fucker is fine oh yeah I am but I'm not going to mention what was your favorite part of clerks and that's what I was finding amazing about this conversation is the fact that everybody's got their own different bits that they think is the best bit of clerks it's not very often that a joke like will make me laugh every time especially by seeing a movie as often as I've seen clerks but the bit in the car I think they're going on the way to the funeral they're sucking your own dick bit it's in randal and Dante is one of the most brilliantly executed jokes in the world and it's just rambly that's like boom it's no matter how often that's it it buckles me double and if we go position on the floor laughing at it and it's just perfect you know what's going on in the time in it as well but I think the chemistry and the time in between them two like they're the hit gold with it and as I said that Jorgen just with randal is and how he's building up trying to get him to admit to me that he doesn't want to admit because to be fair war but no hands up with all try it um I like it a bit better for your granddad sorry but yeah and then when they come out though if you're in a lot that point as well then the busy he's done something where he's decimated the corpse or he's mentioned something about the niggles shown I think uh family members it's just that inappropriate humor but he's got zero filter on him like he does not give a shit or comes out of his mouth and it continues on in clerks too he has no filter I love it absolutely love it love what about you Sammy what's your favorite part of clerks probably the third sentence it's just a realization it's just genius because he's always expected to be like 30 seconds and I love the way afterwards when he's chasing out the shop saying don't suddenly dicks the way the car park and that guy's done then he just realized he's not trying to go say you get back here but there's probably two bits that are actually like they're one bit along a bit is the cigarette scar the cigarette scene where the chircon gum guys um it's trying to talk everyone else buying cigarettes the cell got so he's gone and he's walking it out like he's a like like and turns everyone on don't be and he's got got black along out and everything like that and doesn't matter what because with don't you're being such a pushover as well he can't even get him out out of his shop which he should have I love that saying how a player's out but isn't that what the Flanagan who then comes in and buys cigarettes anyway like he does not give a shit about what he's saying I don't think you see the face on that guy it's like you just see the back of him he's just you get sort of anything yeah but um that and the bit where uh the line down cuddlin him and his girlfriend over on the guy and the talking about the honor system how busy people are too scared to think they've been watched that they don't that they don't steal or take any more than than the need and it's a love that idea and that premise that like they used like a bit of psychology in there because to be honest I wouldn't actually if I went in the store and I decided to sign uh pay what you think take what you think take your right change I would think someone's watching us so I wouldn't be able to bring yourself to stay up yeah I'm putting a social break right and you get like you can show us it all the decades that you get in retail like yeah i'm coming up the milk made who goes through looking at all the milk I mean Mark did that every time I went shopping when I was a kid and she was like go to the back it's like this actually happens I do that so I'm going as well for the one that I see it I just grabbed I don't really look I'm gonna do that from now on if you're if you're if you're not a randal so relatable as well as they've done is everything you feel when you work in retail I spent a long time in the retail service industry the amount of times I've screamed I'm not supposed to be here that they have lost time but then randal is everything you want to be yes that's everything you ever want to say any customer ever you're totally hidden right on the head there I was that's a brilliant analysis of that yeah but I love it so when like they were in randals watching sitting in there in the video still and that woman's trying to ask him questions about the movie until he's got no interest at all and she's trying to ignore it which is not and then she tries to trick him and then she's pissed off that he wasn't listening and he goes I don't appreciate your roost madam it turns back on her and he's got a couple of coming here again and you ask her chair and she goes right she's a fan you're not coming back in here again and you hear GSA and you hear GSA and I would love to do that on the phone I would get sacked so quickly I would get sick that's a last year moment that's yeah oh shit done 100% I'm glad I win the lottery don't put me on the phone just keep caught coming to the people all day even if it doesn't make any sense just keep caught into them and we all get them like they're the shit by customers as well then like they're going down here as well the guy comes in he's asking about next door not being open and he's got his video tape and he's giving don't hear shit just because randal's not there and he's like like say look fuck you obviously didn't work out in life that well that you're working as a as a clerk and now when he comes in take these videos the numbers this remember it and he leaves his key on the desk and he just puts it in the bin I was like yes I was so I want to do that I'm just gonna go and chat with you guys.

I'm just gonna walk on us. What? You've got to walk on us. I know.

Alright so I'll say yeah but um there's so many other elements like it went to go and play hockey as well and the fact that he's wanted to do that all day and he gets to play hockey and then some decade comes up and just because he wants to buy a pack of cigarettes and kicks the ball away but even that's done really well and they're having arguments with his friends because he friends won three-year-year and I love that like said Donna pointed out at the start as well that the dialogue and everything is stuff that we would have that is a conversation with your friends and people like say I've had conversations like probably Scranton plus and weren't behind a bar as well we've had that conversation with Dunno how many people say we're trying to get a free drink out of them and all that jazz but it's just so relatable as well that's probably why I hate it once so much like it was of the time and I would always love to when people get introduced to Kevin Smith movies and going back through them and it reminds them and even if they're not born of the time because we're getting a lot of people now like 10 years or even 15 years before Kevin Smith like me and these movies are now watching them and getting to relate and see what it was back then because it was very much like that back then and it's still elements quite like that too. Yeah 100 it took me a long time to watch Clerksaw. I don't know why it was when I you know when you go through the back catalog of Kevin Smith it was a never picked up it was only a few years ago I watched it and totally regretted it I was like I should I should have watched this years ago this is an absolute lesson in film history and I've missed out it was so long I didn't get the Star Wars references that people were talking about because I've never seen Clerks I just assumed because it's Kevin Smith of course it's obvious. I don't think many films talked about Star Wars as fans no that was the break through for me because as I've said we've had these conversations but we've not seen it in movies when the reference Star Wars it's always been in jokes or snide at the comments towards it or like backhanded compliments I would say yeah 100% well this was Tread as like as as a motherfucking bible I'm sure he's here.

He taught you right he always has done and I'll get this out the way with and he is the guy who makes it okay in the industry for us to be the way we are like for me he really does because he is in his 50s now and he still acts the same way as he did when he was a younger guy and he is not ashamed he loves what he loves and he loves to talk about and he loves to find out about it he loves to geek out about it and he just for me as a woman who's coming into my 40s like it's okay yeah it's fine I'm okay to be the way that I am and he's just for me he is everything absolutely everything to be fair though as well we wouldn't have this fucking podcast I thought it was Kevin Smith because I know I'll probably get a lot of shit but we rip off a lot of Kevin Smith's ideas even the closing I rip off Kevin Smith from Batman and Beyond to see him lying here users because it's like my little dedication to him because my little thank you for giving us this so is the reason I got into podcasts smart cast was probably one of the first podcasts I ever listened to I know Ricky de Vius is classed as the king of the podcast like he started the whole genre but Kevin Smith was so close behind and smart cast was huge passive and then it branched out into Hollywood Babylon which today is still one of my favorite podcast ever him and Ralph Garment just written the piss out of Hollywood it's just hilarious and any is the reason I wanted to do this because I loved how he did it he's done so many like he does so many but he's so good at them yeah it's one of them things because within it now there's so many arseholes who have their own opinions about shit and everything so it was quite nice to do this and have my say but not doing it the way where I'm shit not anyone I know I make jokes and stuff like that but that's always been like the case and I think Kevin Smith does see him where he doesn't shit and things he talks about things he loves and that's the whole idea where this this comes from so sorry Kevin if you're watching I ripped you off me it's and also I love so much about him he's not afraid to cry and get emotional like we do about the things that we love I remember watching him when he was asked to react to the flash episodes you know where the flash goes back and like changes everything he has to put it back again and he gets to talk to his mom and watching Kevin Smith cry for an hour was just sort like I don't know it was like moving like I cried with him even though I'd seen that episode ages ago I still sit in every time he cries I just ball absolutely ball but is he's passionate I love his passion behind things he's fantastic she was like one of the movies before I cried does anyone got anything else want to talk about clerks I know Grant you got a lot of say a lot for the film so I don't want to call you short or anything no no no obviously may I started talking about clerks I absolutely wouldn't stop I think we've established the fact that it is a pretty much immaculate comedy you know what I mean it really is start to finish it it's just perfection because they don't get me started I'll show up because there's a lot of people you don't even have to be like Kevin Smith like die hard van to love clerks you really don't it's so standard worked in retail yeah really everybody else and you just look at it and go yeah I'm not doing that again if you do do it a bit more like Randall shall we say yeah the ball is here yeah that's what we should get to the mantra for work is like be more random what would Randall do probably be a pie for us I think most likely yes so that was 1994 when this came out so I could be in debt I'm going to the debt already yeah I haven't got very many with Kevin Smith so I'm going to take where I can get it and there she is I didn't see anything fast no no no no no my little bony's will hurt you and this podcast I was always thinking I'm emotions but you don't have anything else when I add up the clerks um I think I'll pretty much cover everything with works I just agree with everything grantas said really it's just amazing fun start to finish I would love to do like a live watching what people just like if someone hasn't watched it before just what the fuck I'd like say this we doing but what's going on because again it's a bad thing is a fire basically yeah I think I'd be hard broken if someone didn't get it if you actually watch the whole thing and just went monger that I think I'd be absolutely hard broken yeah exactly you obviously have a working retail I guess or working a customer facing all customer service job I'll live in the 90s one thing sundex yeah it's good I keep forgetting about that scene sweet I'm just waiting for one of the ladies put the hand up some say now come better I've got that over me don't just give another little secret don't just just gonna just slightly take the drink just necked an entire pankton less than a second you suck 68 dicks in a row no it doesn't fit oh it's on every time I know what you mean it's all you've got one something so I'm catching the back of the throat there I don't want to pick my drink anyway that was a bit tangy that's pretty ass I've been in charge don't worry I'm not even in any as far as this is fine but yes that's the new zia word pineapple the next film so yes I think it's all right all right all right and this one had the better soundtrack I've been in it I loved clerks for the soundtrack we're in molar can I ask you the question have you seen the original cut of molarats well it wasn't the original cut it was like the theater one or like the uncorraut goes no the original cut was the one we saw was the original cut what the different version didn't come out it was only released on the blu-ray got yeah because I was so confused because obviously we get our films from sources and links aren't always right and I put more and the opening came on which was totally normal and then all of a sudden there's like a medieval night thing going on and a renaissance fair and I wasn't really confused I was like what have I stepped into I don't like this where's the original apparently the story behind us this was the original film that when they've done the test screen people thought we were the long-world Kevin Smith and his movies he doesn't like them being long he likes like them being under 90 minutes tell a story and this one felt a bit long so they did cut out all the like the civil war and the basically the TS acts that nearly shooting the governor saying that's why the same near the end when he's going back into the molarat the cinema and that guy says hey when you're on the news he turned around and bunched him so he don't know what that was left in but as I said that was the one in joke throughout that he was meant to be a terrorist but I think both versions work I don't think both of the books I know the re-shop the beginning and then the break-up scene a lot quicker than the play-out in so we see the Blu-ray cut start that break around in my head because I don't want to come up in Blu-ray it was a double-sided right you watch one cut on one side and you flip it over and then watch the other other side but um they don't do DVDs like that anymore did they my ex I'm not sure if I've dropped a light but yes did any use see the other cut I'll be only seeing the original obviously you have a list of what you're talking about the minute just talking about different intro I thought you downloaded the porn version or something like that no not this time there's actually two versions of all of that out there absolutely gonna work with it so was Aaron so I started watching it and I was like what the shit I was like I saw confused I had to stop at Google and I was like oh I'm not watching this now I mean I want the normal you know I need to see the normal I need to see Rooka and all of these glory well you do say it but instead of saying it behind like yeah the film crew of the news report is what's um the basically the beginning how it started out is brandy and T.S. they're on a roof and brandy's looking out at like star gazing for some reason and there's a government governor's ball on and the governor's on just got these secretly agent people around there and being all good tactical and then Rooka comes in trying to sell his show and she was meant to give him a check to basically finance the day and show and he's just this insufferable asshole as he is and she's getting more and more pissed off with him and then T.S. has got a musket that he's got for civil ball re-enmaqment that he's doing a play forward school and doing an argument with his girlfriend he gets the rifle to suck in her hair and pull it out pulls the trigger and shoots and everyone thinks that the governor's being shot up by T.S. so Michael Rooka dives on the governor and goes foot in the tent and she gets really really pissed off and tears the checkups in you know getting the fun didn't figure showing out and that's where the hit before Rooka and T.S.

comes about and then basically the showroom and things of the terrorist and all of a sudden getting cleared up and and so but then T.S. goes to the house trying to then make up a brandy and then put his foot well he doesn't just make glory goes all broyd and fucks herding up because they were about to get back together and then that's when them all happens right i turned it off i turned it off at the rifle but i was like yeah this is not my maul rats if i don't stay even spooky looking at that that's a scooner well go on it it's a scooner huh you dumb bastard that's a sailboat a scooner is a sailboat you know what that is the body is a real that's just a guy in a suit he got a sucker it is brilliant i did not know for years that was even spooky i know i do i don't even know if i'm saying he's saying i'm right i really don't but i just i don't know i do it was him it wasn't until american history x i was like oh my god that's a sailboat guy he was in uh what's it boy needs world and my name is hurl as well yeah he was was he's was it he's brother yeah he was pretty cred runby yeah that's right the game when that song came on oh well based the dj rock and rock base yes okay yes certainly in this movie is just utter perfection like perfection there is nothing about this guy i do not love wasn't he a skateboard before this yeah because you're casting this after like he's doing my skateboard and like yeah he's like professional skateboarder in a sense like big within the skateboard i didn't realize how big the skateboard industry was um but yeah massive and he's just he's he's he's the ultimate ultimate nerd boy he's what i wanted to be to be fair i wanted to be everybody yeah he's so about to aspire to be every day to be that level of nerd like so that you saw passionate about it and he knows everything yes well not everything he knows everything about bullshit and shights he doesn't know how to like train his girlfriend that's one for the way away from him that is true that is true well like same like with people clerks don't know what was your favorite part of us maras is it me that yeah um well that's probably got me the same pun would you like a chocolate pencil i was looking at some chocolate petals for a night i couldn't look at brother c and way for a while after that mind i want to be honest have you tried doing that have you put your palm in in the crook of your ass and seen if it's done be honest you're among friends maybe after the podcast you can get to be with us he's in the room so i'm gonna talk about it i'm gonna be with the chatter i'll have to pay for it now okay he's my out sake where is tonight going oh yeah it was never going to go to a other place it was it was it we do a kind of podcast it was never going to be you know maybe see it's probably the right word it's safe it's a fun yes um for me it's a thing part of me as well we perfectly honest just to see it's a reaction yeah it's funny just that with his fingers oh he's running around over his hands and little fingers of it just absolutely brilliant it goes so overboard how about that i mean no i felt it's safe actually when he takes the fact that we've brought his hand and starts eating him as well and he's just a stop man he's stuck you go all get airy aliens and build packs and came over man gave over probably mine was um trying to think you know i was only watched it quite recently but i watched the the longer version um probably this the fortune teller and one of these had to bring it up the three nipples and just to see how it really went from pervert to recall within 30 seconds and how ts was like oh i didn't even know she had three nipples fuck off saying that he's in rap you would have been looking absolutely it's amazing how he's like a propisies and the minute he's got sleeves in front of him he just changes completely like completely flips the air narrative on that one i love his reaction though he's so blunt in that scene what were you telling me what would you say um tawn um the scene you know where the the suit is and you've got the guy playing Dante i can't i have nobody's really real name is and Gilhix and Jason Lee's shouting at him it's short because i know we probably wouldn't have been able to keep like a propisies through his face and also when he got first introduced to jay and he smacked on his hand up against the kiddies he's like hey giddy giddy and then he does his wall of range um you started getting g as like mannerisms coming through and he's snoochabooji's comes out in there as well but what we can't not talk about when you come to him all right is the stannalie yeah come here i'll say you're up i can't say you're watching it i don't watch it a few weeks ago but i like they got emotional watching it yeah that's like true it's true love right there isn't it like this is how lovely stannalies when he read the script it mentioned nothing about you know the end of it where he's but it went to yes for was up to him and says is that all true and he went absolutely it's not true he only did that because he couldn't dare be acting unfaithful to his life any ad like that and kevin left it in because he's such a nice guy and he loves his wife so much that even an actin as another character is like the stannalie and maul rats he still couldn't act like he was unfaithful to his wife yeah he's just lush i love him that's all much i love the like i say the mr the cat and marbles can be or as well when you've got stannalie and stannalie on the actual train rehearsing his lines i mean with the maul rats which did anyone else cry when they saw that didn't cry but i thought i knew kennins mithord so he didn't apparently didn't know about it but he cried when he got the news about it but yeah i was like i remember slapping power linen going all around just balling kevin smith's asking you if you're asking you universe is partly mcmcu now that is pretty special like i said for a nerd like cs kevin smith that that's the pinnacle but i love the fact that i actually just want to talk about kevin smith when he's done interviews and stuff in the past because everyone thinks he should like be doing these big big budget like marvel films with the main such a comic book now who he says no labor for people he wants though he just likes to make these little productions and these little films and these like little doing a marvel because it'll be too much work and if you fucked up he wouldn't be able to forgive himself no and he also says i'm a fan too like i want to see this like i want i know that there's men out there women out there who can do better than me and i want i want to enjoy something like i don't want to be involved in everything and let's give a praise here as well how fucking good was bennath like in this film as a smarmy cunt you just wanted to hear this bastard shannon hamilton that was his name thank you mama um yeah he was that face that smug horrible face you want to try and hate him hate him and strannin love benn but you're just strannin well were you guys any favorite actors or flexive moments other than ones we discussed there possibly like when answering the questions on the game show and it's all this well one's on what sound do you make when you make a movie danny you really choose the wrong time so you drink just just gonna pull it off just to demonstrate the technique that's all i also think this is where the manginai minai minai minai game from as well with maul rads anytime i think you can say that that soundbite comes in my head yes i just remember that bit and also tell him save Dave tell him save the other famous i don't but again just a guy who is coming over because you can't start some shit brody is waltbannigan by the way the character of brody is based on waltbannigan and he's knowledge of comic books, the way that he goes out about music, about video games, and the fact that the drink, you know when he gets his ring fill? Yeah, well he used to do that all the time. So he just based all the characters on people he's been with, like, JSMU isn't, well, JSMU is not a character, it is just Jason Hughes.

It's because apparently when he told the stories of Jason Hughes when he first was introduced to Jason Hughes, he walked into the quick stop and just started sucking off everything, saying I'm going to set this off, I'm going to set this off and suck this off. So just grabbing anything that looks like a phallic and just to start sucking up. So it just shows you what it is and yeah absolutely brilliant, love more, that's the death. Now I was happy to move on to the next one or we got, actually one thing I do want to mention about more, it does have a bit of a questionable saying in when it talks about the 15 year olds doing the book and then showing the video of Ben Affleck doing it from behind it, that is a bit to the number.

Oh my god, the kid on the escalator? Would somebody get that kid off the bus? There's nobody, there's nobody showing up when they're in the metal centre, they're on the escalator again. Don't have a gun, it's going to be doing it for a few seconds tomorrow.

I'm just going to try and get off the escalator. I'm the student guy, I'm not in the original coach. Which one? Other one, my Foxen or?

Yeah, the Foxen. The Fox, was it? No, I don't know which one was it. No, I know, that was another thing that was added though, whether it's to get rid of the security guard that she was off in Foxen as well.

Oh right. That was an in the original one. Wow, that'd have been pretty funny. What is the next one?

Jason, you hear me? I don't want you there. No, I do. I don't know.

Out of all of this, I've said, I've not heard a bad word about any Kevin Smith film whatsoever, but Jason Eamey is my least favourite. And if we can show you Lauren Adams, it's a voice. It's one of the most meaningful ones out there. It is.

It's actually, I think, the end scene is beautiful when Kevin's talking about his Eamey. Yeah. And it is absolutely beautiful. But it's just, if I'm going to watch Kevin Smith film, I'm not just picking Jason Eamey.

It's got some of the best lines in it as well, like the best insulce. You're just a tracer, man. You're a tracer. And it introduces us, like I said, they hold him and how I can't do it in his card because it wasn't Brody in this one.

No, I know it wasn't. Banksy. Banksy, I was thinking, I was thinking about it. Sounds like, well, Bobby's, that stuff, Mark.

I can't even see it. Thank you. I'm sick. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I think it was.

But I can say again, just in Brody, but a lot more tone down, a lot more bitter and angry. But this, again, the film is, I love it. I think it's hilarious, but it is uncomfortable, but it's uncomfortable in the right stages and the right ways. And all of them got a lot of shit after this film, just because, like, say a lot of people start getting the message saying, well, took their own opinion that was just in all lesbians need as a big dig into change the world.

But you see, no, if you got that film, that film, you weren't watching the film. Yes. Because it's about love. It's about love.

You can love people and not be in love and not have the same type of films as different types of love. And that's all what GSN is. Again, it's a comic book about comics, what about love. And that's the element I love about this film.

And some of the best things as well, the Milton Black guy. Is that on point and hilarious in surveys, especially when he gets called out, after he's sure, when he gets the ringers in the audience to... What's a Nubian? And he's winning the restaurant, so it's on your nilly-made as a laugh.

And it's a plain and this Milton Black guy, but he's a homosexual as well. So it's just elements as brilliant. And how one person can get everything so wrong and hold them as the eternal romantic is. And he does create the comic book she and sign of all that leads into future films.

And again, it holds up. But the whole premise is basically, when I think he's got a share, he can't share his love with his best friend and the girl he loves. So he tries to introduce a threesome. And the awkwardness and just how badly read that situation is just brilliant and it's brilliant cinema.

After listening to your talk there, I might go back and watch it with a fresh pair of eyes. I didn't look at it that way at all. And it's been a long time since I watched this. I'm like, watch it again.

You quite sold it there. You talk very passionately about it. I do, because I don't think Chase naming gets the credit it deserves. Because a lot of people did get the wrong message from that.

Like I said, as I said about the whole feminist movements again, not say anything bad, not say anything against it. But I think if you saw that from that film, maybe you're going in with an agenda. Yeah, I'll call people out for it. Yeah.

And isn't that isn't the story very loosely based on his actual relationship with Joey? Possibly. But again, it does all these films except from Jersey Gala Bali. We're not talking about Jessica.

It didn't happen. Yeah. I've watched it. We are.

As well. That's like. So when I go through it, we're going to hold each other's hands and get through it. As Dona got through it, we can get through it as a girl.

You mentioned, though, that St. James near me, the all-wheel injuries scene. Cool. You set yourself up at your mind.

I've never seen this movie though. I just think it's a lot of this, whether I hold and sit and then I piss off and just talk about all the injuries. It's a cut. Yes.

Yes. I actually took something away from that. And I thought, you know what? I'm just trying to be by what to do.

Because of that part, because of that thing. That's the thing. A lot of people get things like, well, Dona got off from that. So it's good.

That's how you take it. Some is like, oh, you're like, oh, you got off. Yeah. I'll just add it again.

Every time we mention sex, she sucks on the straw. There's something going on here. It's like she's signaling something. I think I got the safety blanket, I think.

Oh, Dona. Oh, Dona. She got the fucking, oh, Gaspamor picked at the thumb. No.

You were just talking bitter that Boonie's didn't get picked at August Maudie. You simply had a spitter. I will talk about the fucking Goonies one day. You should be doing all the time, August Maudie.

Instead of, we ask questions and like, you go back and forth, Lisa, you're just going to start going through Goonies. I'll stand by me. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that to the podcast.

I might eat always in that big. Yeah. But bitch, please. Listen to him.

He's got his big boy pants on. Nanny. Where were we? Jason, I think it's came out the same year, which I think he got right in credits for as well.

Good will, London. Because he helped, well, Martin, and Affleck got the Oscar, but I think he didn't call right, but he just looked at the album with the right. I think he was together for them. Did you know what I mean?

Like, script writing. He was the one who kind of pieced it all together. Have you ever heard him talk about the scenes in Goodwill, Hinton? It's beautiful.

Listen to Kevin talk about Goodwill, Hinton. Yeah, we got a chance of this in some of these podcasts when he's talking about it. It's just really... I don't think he could always do it himself down on it as well.

When people ask him the question about it, he says, look, these guys wrote a brilliant film. Like what they wrote was magic. All I did was point them in directions and help. I don't think, there's definitely when you watch Goodwill, London.

There is Kevin Smith elements in there and you can get torns and pictures from it. So I still don't think he gets the credit he deserves without movies. I think that's the case with a lot of Kevin Smith writing, because he's not just a movie writer, he's also a comic book writer as well. And because of his nerd cred, he gets looked at with a fine, fine truth call, movies work.

And a lot of people give him a shit for his writing abilities and comics. Personally, I can't knock him at all. Deadend was fantastic. Is Batman...

What was it called? On a Matterpier? Batman. That's not the name, but there was a character in there.

It was on a Matterpier. It's a lovely one he said it. But he's... But it's funny, he's done...

Probably his comics, he's swam on the black and the black cat. The label that men do, groundbreaking. Like talking about sexual assault on Black, like Felicity Hardy, I don't know if it was white, Felicity Hardy, Black Cat. Yes.

As a child and how she was getting revenge and stuff like that. And how dark and especially for a comic, I think it was a four or five father. If anyone out there wants to read, like I say, Kevin Smith's comic. Go for that one that one.

Some said he's Daredevil. Yeah, I'd never run with... ...was probably phenomenal. I would totally back you on that one.

I love Daredevil. Frank Miller is the reason I love him. Kevin Smith just continued that love affair with Matt Murdock for me. Also, I'll go on to this later.

I wanted to go on to their whole Superman lives thing, but I'll tell it later. I'm sure we've talked about it on a podcast before. More slightly. More slightly.

But I just think it's worth another mention. Because it could have changed a lot of things for Kevin Smith, if that actually went ahead. Fuckin', but... Fuckin', but...

Fuckin'. Fuckin'. Oh yes. Cheers, name it, yes.

I will watch it with the fresh pair. Honestly, after what you just said there, that was absolutely beautiful. I will watch it with the fresh pair of eyes. Yeah, it's probably one of the better love stories out there.

And it's about only quite a love and different types. That's probably the best way to describe it. Because not all love is the same. Not all love can be appreciated or shown the same.

So I'd say I think it gets a lot of hate and a lot of people just discounted because it's a Kevin Smith film. But it's, it's, it's, it's all quite a special one, I think. Never discount a Kevin Smith film. Yes.

What's next? And the one that you and Grant were introduced to. Oh. Lord and Savior have the one where he mocked God and, and it will...

And the Catholics, and the Catholics, clean and hard for him. They went all father-headed on him and said, Oh, I'm against this type of thing and that and even Kevin Smith protested his own films. Or which was hilarious. Did he ever read the sign that he had when he protested his films?

Because I mean, I'm still laughing about it today. Can't remember. Dix, I'll remember. Dix, I'll remember, yes.

Dix, I'll remember. Because he was with these friend, I think he's friends called Jerry. I'm going to be wrong on that. And Jerry is a baby.

And he put, he said something along the lines of Dix is something, so he just put Dix is yummy. And it just stood in the crowd and protested his own fucking genius. Nobody recognized them at all. That was the brilliant thing.

That's surely how much attention they paid to the film. It was just like, oh, this is Andy, Catholic, Andy, religious. Well, I can say that, yeah, it was Andy Catholic. It was the Catholic, so I went all nuts over it.

Yeah. Sorry. I know we take a religion out with this. Oh, yeah.

No, no, you can't, if you, if you're going to talk dogma, you've got to talk religion. It's the whole thing is everything based around. But Kevin was really like, the dogma is written from the heart with Kevin, because he is a Catholic, and he has got a very strange relationship with religion. And so dogma really comes from the heart.

It's put for me, it's just pure, it's just pinnacle of perfection. I think as well. I'm sure he came out and said that he wrote this film for his mom. Most likely.

Because his mom was like, he's that is that. He's got a U of G. Right. Oh my God.

I knew it was one of his exe, because I love when he talks about his dad as well. Oh, I'm done the postal guy. I love him. But yeah, so film that gave us what in buddy Christ forgot to say, and you kind of buy that statue now.

It's expensive. I've tried. It was everywhere though. It wasn't at one point.

Then I was suddenly just became really hard to get a hold of him. And was this the first one that introduced us to movies as well? Yeah. Yes, it was.

It was movie burgers. Yeah. The sacred cow. Which America now has movie stores in bastards.

Absolute bastards, so you don't have them here. Yeah. I tried ordering a movie shirt like the actual employee shirt. Yeah.

I was like about 60 or 70 quid. And I was like, I'm not paid over 20 quid for a short anyway. So it's not going to start now. It's in here.

I have a rule and a constitution too. Well, gosh, the only thing that drives me nuts about this film is Bethany. I don't particularly like the actress who played that. And she was apparently a nightmare to work with.

This is why she has never been in another chemistry film. Because she was a nightmare to work with. When Alan Rickman has a problem with another actor, you've got problems. He is the nice guy of Hollywood.

Like, you never hear anyone say anything nasty about Alan Rickman or anything like that. No. Yeah, he did not get on well at all. But you don't see that.

He never see that chemistry. She doesn't portray that across in our character. But you could take her out a bit and that's still love this film so much. So, Leinins can get a bit of a habit now.

So we'll go back and say what your favorite scenes is in Dogman. So we'll start with Grand this time. Give Donner a little break. So she can recover after the last.

Don't go that strong. The board room is absolutely all the board rooms. I'm not a bit of everything. And it is comedy elements.

But then as he starts walking around the board table, he gets to the studio at the end of what he says to him. It's just it doesn't wreck the comedy. But it just kind of takes a few minutes. I put it in half.

You know, it's a different moment. It becomes so all about serious in amongst all of the ridiculousness that happens. All the way through the film. There's just a moment of complete solemn heartbreak, if you will.

Justification as well, I think. Yeah. Yeah. You know, these guys are villains.

But what they're about to do is actually okay. Yeah. We have to do the other thing. They all deserve to die.

Especially the guy at the head of the table. Definitely deserves to die. And take care of this? I like that.

I like that. I love the fact as well. All the way through that scene. It tells you what each of them does.

And when you guys go and get to the scene or you whisk this in the egg or any scene. And I feel like, no, my damn in the back of the book, that was your own son as well, you sick fuck. So just take to that level what could have been. And then like, say, when the walk out of the room, and then my damn walk in with a smile on the face and look at that big piece he's got.

And all you hear is the gunfire. And all of this is the focus is in on the movie statues and the blood's getting over it. Again, it doesn't take it to the extremes where most of them today would show you them type elements, but it kind of bleated back, but he got the brutality. But then with the humour as well at the brought into it, like the last person who disorbs a good soul, he wanted a killer as well, because he didn't bless him for sneezing.

You didn't say bless you, Loki. And that scene, for me, gives me so many Tarantino feels. Because just the dial up, when I get that a lot with, and I know their friends. So I do get that a lot with Kevin Smith's films, especially later on, films is dialogue gets longer, gets better, gets detailed.

But I get that in this. And he just, you're right when he doesn't turn the notch to Tarantino's level with the gore, which for me is what I'm expecting because of the dialogue that's going on in there and the interactions with everyone. And he just does it so subtly, and it was a brilliant, brilliant scene. Not better.

Lovely, Donna. Probably the urban and scene with Metatron and now when she tries to walk about with the fire of the picture. And he's arms up like that, man. It's just brilliant.

Yeah, I'm a bit of a madam, I just really like that scene. No, Alan McMahon, he's best. He's just chewing the scenery. And when he pulls his pants down as well to show that he's got no junk.