So alive. Well, live. Hi, everyone. And welcome to the Nerdy of North podcast.
It's a Nerdy podcast and it's hosted by a Northern Nerd. I am one of your horse Sam. And I am the other horse Paul. And tonight, it's a night like Northern.
It is a very special night. So I'm glad we've got everyone in the chat. And I'm glad that we are joined by some illustrious guests this evening. So starting off the beautiful, the kind, the good-neoched, the hairy, mongust person that he is.
We've got Daddy Discord, Daddy's Lee. How do you? I didn't know what you were going for me when you said good. No one had to do that.
I'm not using it. I'm not using it. You're nice. Start it.
Paul. You won't go to Curo Beautiful Manly with his Trevor McDonald's t-shirt. I love that t-shirt. And he's one piece collection in the back with everything as well.
He's just elude. Elude's brilliantness. Yes. He is the epilogue.
Like, say, the upper level of nerd that is our Lee. So now we are joined by someone who is a little bit special. And more we as a one. He is what I would probably, if there was a definition in Oxford Dictionary of the word nerd, it would have a picture of our little Christopher right next room.
Because this guy, I give him a lot of shit. Now, give him a lot of shit before we came off online as well. Just to throw him a little bit. But I just want to say thank you, Chris.
I was good. Thank you for everything that you do for us. You support us through the thickest and thin. You are one of the most loveliest people we know.
And I am proud to invite you on the Nerd You Up North called Cast. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was next to you. Well, you know what?
Where was this when I came up with this thing? Oh, my gosh. And you will continue to get it. So yes, we are joined by the most prestigious nerd of them all.
And just to say, I'm in a good mood tonight as well. I am created two little borders for both Chris and Lee, just because I see it is the time of love as well. Oh, look at that. That is so lovely.
Just to demonstrate. These are two awesome of my favorite people. So I wanted to showcase the love for the youth too as well. So you're getting a nice little special borders for like, with all the love hearts that all the nerds give you around the world.
Oh, look at that. Love is in the air. See? I know what you're just going to do with it.
It doesn't look like this is bullshit in the love. This looks like me and Chris are in love. Yeah, yeah. Well, if the room is true.
Yes. Well, and again, before we start, I do want to like, like see a lot of stuff as well because I know I've started off with a nice stuff. And I'm going to continue with the nice stuff because this used, and again, the reason why I wanted to have used to one because again, you still have a video coming up this week which will look at the end. But used to are essentially everything that's great with the Nodio North community.
Because that's been a lot of shit thrown up at the Nodio North community lately. It's mostly from people who don't put the effort in, who wanted their own way and are quite entitled to a lot of different things as well. Who expect certain things and used to have never done that. Used have always been there.
Used have always been supported. Anything that you can get involved with, use always do put everything into it. So again, I'm not taking the piss. I am so proud of you.
He's all my little sons. Like say you and like say good world and dream as well going off the Vegas and getting out your comfort zone. Like coming out the podcast and I don't know what Chris was quite nervous. Um, it's basically everything that we want in the Nodio North community is emphasized in what you used to do.
So thank you. I'm absolutely thank you. Our blessing is no idea. It's like when we first set out doing not just Nodio North with the podcast as well.
This is what we kind of envisioned and used to kind of like you bring it to life all the time whether you're in the chat or some stuff, help them, they just called help. Do you know what it's just it's lovely. It really is like this is this is where we wanted to go with the people we wanted to go with as well. Certainly and when the day comes we have to hand over the Nodio North reins and give up the Nodio North control.
We hope there's nerds like use that can take over the button and move it into the uploads and move it forward as well. So yes, burn it to the ground. I don't know what it's nice shit. Let's get on with this ever so.
Certainly. So one thing we're going to do before because we haven't done this for a while. There's been a while since we've had a newbie. Chris.
I've seen Chris this weekend as well and it was like I could warn him about this or I could just. I should have thought this one. I've actually been on the back end of this when I went on the tunes episode. It's not nice.
I'm not going to lie. It really puts you on this far. Yes. Sorry.
So what's your name? Credentials Chris. Why are you with the nerd of the nerd? Of all nerds.
The nerd. I think right. So as you know that I haven't seen a lot of films I should have. I mean Jack of all trades.
Jack of all trades, Master of Nod. So I've got fringe knowledge of a lot of things. I'm not an expert in everything. And through watching one says tune, even Sunday.
I think I've brought and be horizons a bit. I've seen too many I want to know. Yeah. To maybe next year.
So yeah, I think I've just I just tried. You're trying. Oh, you're the little engine that could. Yeah.
But what do you like though? Chris, because you do have your own little your own little niche of nerd isn't it? You like. It's like it's one of the things where when you think off the top of your head you're like your mingle is blank.
But then if you mention a certain word I'm like oh yeah. I know this. I'll mention a certain word. You love Asian horror.
Oh yeah. I do. I know. I know.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. So you're no one better than he does. I know.
I know. Yeah. I used to troll K-Jimby in the foreign film section and just pick up whatever. There are only two foot twenty because I don't know many people that I engage in horror.
But yeah, you should bring that poem on Friday or Saturday. Just watch M all weekend. Repeat the next weekend. Anime.
But I know you use all the muscle fan a lot. What are you talking about? I've got a couple of them too, man. So, you know.
I like the old thing. But again, there's not been much decent Asian horror for quite a while. Like I said, there was a big boom in the 90s and early 2000s. But yeah.
Yeah. And you also like a lot of the rings. But we're not talking about that. So moving on.
Oh, here. Oh, you're looking like crumbs. Are you walking? I know.
I'm going to rings. Just a round and I think. Yeah. No, audio listeners going to see it.
But they are very pretty. Sorry. And how are you, Lee? I know we've picked up Chris.
But how are you, sir? How are you feeling? Okay. They have a bit of sunburned.
Yeah. I'm fine. I've had a busy few weeks. But I'm finally getting back into all of the media and all stuff.
We've missed you. I'm really sorry. I'm like. First thing I said to him when we were doing AIM House of the Dragon, are you okay?
I miss. I'm not doing this. That's it. That's it.
It's weird when you're not there. Working like just to all the frigid and act out and forth. You left a hall. Lee, I'm just going to say that.
You left a gap. I just needed to be filled by Lee. I'm probably not going to say that. I'm going to be good there tonight.
I'm not going to take that. I'm not going to take that. I'm not going to take that. I'm not going to take that bit there.
I'm trying to see some left of all the chat. Some left of all that could have been filled by early this 14 inch. Oh, yeah. You wouldn't be saying you would trust a sony.
But anyway. I'm going to do you to slam a depth. Silla, every disgusting today's opinions, opinions, opinions, opinions, and all. And if you'd like to discuss anything from today's episode, I believe it's a comment join us on the Facebook page.
That is called all the comments section where we can have an open discussion. But what we want to have is anyone coming to tell us our opinions are wrong because we can all agree to disagree and fan them. So let's keep it fun. Keep it kind and keep the toxic behavior out of our nerdism.
Very well said there. So this movie. So this film. This film.
Right. I do have the taglines for this film and the probably better than the film. What to set that right? This summer.
Expect the unexpected. Right. I did expect that like universal pictures present a new League of Heroes that step to a different beat. That's quite on the nose.
We're not your classic heroes. We're the other guys. That's my favorite. I like that one.
They're not your average superheroes. And that is it. Just the four. Just the four.
So no from talking to Sammy and Chris beforehand before Lee joined us. I know he's been busy. Your expectations weren't met with this movie, I take it. Because this is the first time watching Mystery Men.
Because I remember watching it when I first came out and it was on the cusp. Because it was 1999 I believe. So it was on the cusp of the superhero careers. That was kind of in my mind.
It is kind of like the Andy superhero movie. It's kind of like everything that is what everyone believes a superhero to be. And it's like it flips ahead and does does. I am a very much in belief.
This movie came out at the wrong time. If it came out now, I do believe 100%. It would do a lot better than it did back then. Just because a lot of people have, as we've discussed in the past, Marvel fatigue and the same old superhero movies that's kind of get turned out to each.
This is very much different. When this came out originally, only superhero movies we probably had the time as well as X-Men, Spider-Man, there was no Avengers, there was no Iron Man or anything like that. So this was kind of like different in a way but not different enough from so people would go off. This is not getting the jork type thing.
I think watching it now, if you put it up against the superhero movies that we watch, people would get the jork a lot more. Yeah. I want to get the negatives out of the way with first because I don't particularly, I said to Anthony, I'm going to be kind about this and I'm going to have to like really stretch. This for me on first view and these characters had no chemistry with each other.
They were all trying to outdo each other with, I'm funnier than you. It was so Batman, it might as well have been fucking Batman because I do know that it was filmed on the Batman set. And it lacked something to, it lacked the sparkle. The only thing I found enjoyable was Jeanine Grouffler and that was the only aspect of it, or Paul Rubens.
The M2 were the only people I could find any, there was no eagle behind them because the rest of them were like, look how funny I am. Oh no wait, look how funny I am. And it was almost like they were trying to outdo each other throughout the whole film. And it really, it really took us out of it.
But the idea of the concept is so fucking brilliant, it's just not executed, one with the right people. And two in the completely wrong setting, it's almost like I didn't know where it was. Are you in Gotham City? Are you in somewhere else?
Like what time era are we in? And usually I don't mind that if we don't know the time era, but when you've got so many different references in one movie, it's kind of like I don't know where my eyes are meant to be going to, I mean mine's meant to be going to. Yeah. Oh god, that's not true.
No, no, I knew this was, I was going to be like a divider when it came to like, like the movies that we choose. It's kind of like a marmite movie, you kind of love it, or you're here, no one really sits on the fence of this movie. Again, I get told you what you're saying, again, like there was elements or characters that didn't quite work. But the nor chemistry or the nor camaraderie thing, that was kind of like, to me, I felt like that was meant to have been, because this was meant to be such a dysfunctional team.
It wasn't meant to be like anything about which was meant to be anything cohesive or flowing again. Yeah, and so that element and kind of like the jaw kind of landed a little bit. I think if they did it now with actors and with the people that would be involved with, because back then the people that they used were open corners, big hitters from certain TV shows, certain films that the thought would go on to the next thing. Like some once on first on them did like then, instead of after he did this, he did other movies and bigger things he went on.
Unfortunately, unfortunately the person that's the star in this movie, as I said, Janine Garuffalo didn't really do much after this type thing, which was a shame because the film she did at the time, like I had the way the strangers crush on her when I grew up. The truth about cats and dogs, I actually adore her in with her. Who is this? Is this the ball, Janine?
Janine Garuffalo. I always love being in fanboys, which is a cross between Janine Garuffalo and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. What would she look like? So what do you think of this movie then early?
Um, so this is supposed to be a comedy and I didn't laugh once. No, I didn't even smirk it any bits. Okay. Um, but that's the bad part out the way.
Well, some has already mentioned the chemistry, there wasn't that there, but I think there wasn't meant to be chemistry there. It was meant to be a group of dysfunctional idiots that have been thrown together to save the world. Which I totally get. I get the fact that dysfunctional side of it, but it just seemed even when it almost like the one fucking interested in what it was saying.
It's just like, how fast can I get my lines out and how funny can I do this next bit? That's just how we came across. I think if the talk to comedy out this would be a decent superhero movie. Like it's got a good plot.
Um, it's just a basic superhero plot. Yeah. Um, and it's got really good actors in. Like it's got a hell of a cast.
Maybe it's not Ben, it's still out, I don't think Ben, Silicon hacked. But William Mizzi, um, Eddie is odd, as Eddie is odd, wasn't me, isn't it? That was a lot of screen time. Mm.
What he was absolutely incredible, but I didn't know how to address Eddie is odd, because in the time it came out, that is Eddie is odd, but now Eddie is odd, transition. And I was like, oh, how do I even bring that up? So I think we just talk about Eddie is odd as in that time. In that time, yeah.
Yeah. Well, to me, I think he came across as like a classic 60s button. Yes. Yeah.
And other like, sort of like goofy companies of like what they had back and then, and it just fit. That's why I think I kind of like was warm just because I love the whole company, 60s, Adam West, like Batman, and this had a total fail to it and kind of like the jokes that a lot of the jokes in it. And again, I've probably got like the nostalgia and stuff space that was just now. I absolutely loved it just because of how like a kind of reminders of that nostalgia of the whole Batman as well.
Um, like the certain characters that I absolutely adore in like Jeffrey Rush, like as a Casanova Frankenstein is fucking, it's just fucking to me as an end of the world. Fucking with a finger is just hella, I thought it was done hilariously well. And Hank as Ariane as well, like again, he doesn't get as probably as much credit as he probably deserves. Everyone probably sort of heard of Frank as Ariane voice or like performance because he's such a wiggle like he's like done so many characters in The Simpsons.
He's done like so many different voice roles. So it's nice to see him as a as a as a me and star in this. And I kind of like the whole Blue Raj I think even though I was on the news and set it for. It was it was so different though and I loved it.
I did like the don't get it's wrong. I know I've got me feelings on this but there was some aspects of it that I did like and I loved these interaction with his mother when she was like, I got this this set for you to get married but I'm going to give it to you now and like. I'm going to give it to you now. Nice of course.
Have you seen him as Ariane's on TikTok and he goes around Disneyland and he's like asked people like, do you know this voice and he'll do like a voice from The Simpsons and the amount of people who don't know who he is. It's ridiculous. It's a disservice to him because he is a huge voice actor. Yeah and he's had big parts in other things and stuff so I kind of like to get at his time to shine in this movie as well.
What about you Chris? I know like to paraphrase your words before we went live you said this was shit but how did you feel? What is it? When I first went to do this I thought, oh brilliant because I remember watching this on Sky movies, so it was recent 99, so it would be like nine, so I wanted to see it a bunch later.
And watch other Sky movies and I remember loving it and then looking at it with 20, 24 eyes. It's shit and the reason any chemistry between them but the more I've looked into it I've heard that all of the cast where all comedians they were pushing what's he called Kinka or Shat the director and he just letting them walk all over them so it's just kind of an idea for a joke. If it makes sense at all we'll figure it out. Yeah I think that's why we don't see them best together with chemistry.
I did read a little bit about this film there is a huge conspiracy about it. Right. That the director, I can't say his name so you'll have to forgive us. Big old shot.
Yeah he didn't direct the film. All right it was secretly directed by Tim Burton. Which you can get the vibes for. Yeah and it was a whole big conspiracy theory like back in that time like that if you imagine what the chat rooms were like then but yeah the whole big conspiracy in the Tim Burton was actually the director he had nothing to do with it and that's why it looks so bat managed because the sets that they did use because it is very heavy digitally done.
Yeah is all batman sets. That's a very ironic considering Tim Burton doesn't have much to do with the films that he actually directed. Two-day my friend well done. I was just waiting for one of us to get that little bite in there so yeah.
What surprised me and again this probably goes really to that like little rumor there that if Tim Burton was involved or wasn't involved the budget for this movie was 68 million and I know it sounds really bad seeing this it doesn't look like a 68 million like that because this was back in as I said before the 2000s so it does have the vibe of an independent movie so the fact that they spent that much money on is quite shocking to me it's I've just the actors all the people that were involved had to be paid a lot to be in it but I can't see where that kind of like budget was like splashed on but and again that's not me this no I do think this movie should have been like an independent movie or should have been like almost like a oh trying to think of the name now like a bright burn or something like that it's like like doing a bit darker don't know a little bit like as I said less jokes more seriousness and don't you like this again this is coming from someone that loves movie there's only two characters that kind of don't fit into the famous movie one is Ben Stella he's supposed to be the main one but he's literally just been Ben started there could have been anyone that filled in that role it would have been like say a little bit and again that's weird I'm seeing this but Greg Greg can hear it doesn't fit as the smarmy he fits a smarmy but he doesn't fit as like the Superman the clean coat the ultimate hero type thing and I think you could have got someone better or someone who fit that role a little bit more and that would have more impact in the movie type thing I do like Greg Keneer as an actor he did a brilliant um like a movie like a TV movie on the Kennedys and he was being superb as Jeff Kear and he's brilliant he's been one of my other favorites and Little Miss Sunshine and I totally was like uh you are you're a dick you can play a dick saw well because he can't play that level of dickish like to wear because the smarminess just didn't pay off but I did appreciate the jaw where he was like well it's this guy who's this guy and they're like no he can't be because he won wears glasses and if he was walking around he would be blind always wouldn't happen to him because like he's a dickier even off the map for a while then honestly he was stuck on you with Matt Damon in a thought yeah that was amazing like it was great with that shit on this movie but you're like that one he's a fantastic mama oh no no no no no no even I've seen that's no no no no no this might be a case of like what could side with this where it's back in the day and it was good the back in the day yeah the humor back with it but yeah the idea of it all the concept of it all is so brilliant I love the dysfunctional super heroes to a Kels character yeah I love the fact that he you can only go invisible when the one's looking at him and it genuinely is the case and I look that was quite a funny joke but they never really played on it they kind of it was left there to dwindle for a bit and then when it happened it was like well then the result back to a dick joke afterwards as well so it's kind of like yeah and it's like oh you you had some great concepts there Ben still that does not deserve to be in this film he doesn't deserve to be the lead and I'm not saying that because he's I actually enjoy some Ben still Zoolander is fucking hilarious I will dodge what exactly he had he did have a string of movies where he was he was he was he was in his element this didn't feel like he was in his element he felt like William H. M. E. C who was a fucking master at what he does and it almost feels like he's trying to compete with him on every scene that they're in how do I out act what do you mean I think the mistake with Ben's other character in this as well they tried to give him a love interest that didn't fit or didn't kind of like yeah exactly and that was the big thing but if you talk about the team as well because I think the team had some interesting characters in it like Ben said Ben says character was Mr.
Furious he's the whole premise is the rage is building he gets so furious and so angry that it gives him like this super ability or super strength that kind of never really doesn't manifest until he never gets there he never gets that angry and if that's the joke then play on it a bit better than him trying it constantly I don't know it just it didn't land to the joke it wasn't he didn't land very well and then we had William H. S. M. E.
C as the shoveler which again I actually thought this was brilliantly done because William H. M. E. C.
is such a classic like such a classic nice guy and send up like I know he's done shameless and stuff like that where he plays clean code and perfect and he's got like the all American family but he says he's got this super ability where he's the greatest shoveler that's ever lived and and it's like he's a whole family's just sick of himself and he's son and he's just keep going out and doing his whole thing but I thought that was quite a nice little touch I know we've talked about like Hank Ezair in the Blue Raja which again his ability is the four forks and spoons but he doesn't throw knives because he doesn't want to kill people no no no no I don't want to have people and going back to William H. M. E. C.
character he's probably the only one who gets the joke yeah and who the joke works on him and what I found hilarious when watching Dan Beringer might I did what is on my big tally when he's swinging each shovel and he's fighting it's not him but that's that's not well you know it's you can the edits in this was so weird as well the course of shots when they're in when the shoveler and he's wife are in the kitchen together and they're doing the face to face and I'm like oh that's not needed that really is not needed in this moment so the edits were really weird as well but he is the only one who gets the joke yeah no and it comes across and actually he's trying his character mind because like all of his movements were shawl movements as if he was yeah and like it and one thing I did love in this film was his tiny shovel I think that joke I didn't laugh at it but it was a great moment because that was a little trial but I think when he's fighting well he's like he pits him into the wall then he puts the shovel behind him and shoves him out the window so he did go full hog and stuff I did fail sorry for Paul Rubens' character this way because literally it is just the grossest character but again just a really well-wounded back story as well that he farted next to her witch and he blended onto the witch so she forever said whoever smelled it will forever have dealt it and give him the power of flatulence which again Paul Rubens has many ups and downs but you can't see what the work he's done he has portrayed some absolutely fantastic characters in Cervan TV but this one I felt hardly sorry for him to be the fart guy I didn't in a way because it's very much Rubens to a tea like you love to do physical comedy and I'm very much not over Paul Rubens not being in this world anymore I mentioned I do we talk about it on you know come and monster set the sword because he's he's in discretion and I have confirmed this because I went deadly silent after we talked about it on monsters because I didn't know what I was thinking is it this or is it something worse he's in discretion wasn't as bad as what some people have done there's just a few points in him as that's why we lost a bit of money now because he's not you yeah yeah but I did that when you watch it you'll notice I'll go shit I don't actually remember what it is he did let's just move this conversation along but he's not any less don't worry he just like he's just caught my name in the cinema that's a scream instead yes I didn't know I mean died last year it's so sad and Pee Wee is forever gone but I heard Pee Wee in this movie so many times when he did he's a lot when he did he's laughing when he screamed on my hand oh I heard it was so nice to sing him because he is such a character actor so this was just oh it was lovely to have it regardless of what that character was and I just I loved it and then we got like Jenny in Grofflaws the Baller which again is the standout in the whole movie just so she walks in the scene she's got like the presence and as you said William B it's me she got the jork she embodied everything and her interaction with her father if they made a ball a movie I would actually enjoy that I have a question I have a really great concept with the ball and that that's going cyclone in the ball the design of it was beautiful didn't actually make that it with all the ball yeah as well you just wonder what's the same thing again I think oh yeah I've never seen King Prince I think so don't be shocked I've got seen a lot of things I was surprised I was going to build Mary in oh do you know for all that for all I do love Bill Mary in he's in one of your favorite films of all time I've not really seen a lot of his work all right well so I've worked a bit of a Bill Mary season one time oh that would be amazing I think it was a bit of a call out using the ball and ball to stop the reactor yeah yeah but it was special it was a bit sorry I've just seen I've read that originally you know the tornado grenades what's the doctor call the doctor yeah hello hello hello hello hello hello hello and his grenades that was originally going to be chucked in the middle right so June at the budget they couldn't do it so they popped over the ball and ball all right that's interesting because they did kind of like foreshadow that earlier on when they were going through all the gadgets and you saw the tenor tornado and I was like wow that could be interesting so you could expect them to say that in the fight later on and you don't want to say it all yeah why didn't they just put the tornado in at the end and just why didn't they just put a tornado in a camp why didn't they just put Ben still his picture check and use that anyways um it's still the highest listed I don't know if he was hiding his paper he was he was the one that he was advertising him he was advertising I think who's the first name on the on the on Wikipedia he's the first name that comes up he is number one Ben still a handsome bazarian was after him so yes of yeah so he's the highest so he is kind of like top dog when it comes down to the cast in a dwindles down from there wasn't he like a pretty not known there that seems to be no because Ben still has been I think people forget Ben still is kind of like a child actor his parents are both them comedians both within the sitcom world I don't think Jerry's still a transitioned over to movies he stayed more within he's mother definitely stayed within television and but he's been in the industry since the day he was born I just knew I know but I think he's played small roles like he had like a little walk on part in a friends episode and stuff like that where before he got big big this this was meant to be one of his breakout films and and then I think as I said he did like zoom around when he started on in with like a few like Will Ferrell and stuff like that yeah that's something about Mary's yeah that's true to me about Mary probably did spark at all but the character he plays in this is the same person he plays in friends he's an angry guy he just screams and shouts of people it's no different but that's up to a point that was Ben still there he played and then he kind of morphed into the same person once he figured out his career I don't particularly like didn't have his area obviously relax at the friends as well yes no he's David the science guy but he's still actually doing it wasn't to the left um no I didn't think David had an accent I just thought he talked like a post-american would talk it wasn't it wasn't hanging xerians accent though that's thing when you go back do you know what hanks accent is because he's so many I can't say the point to Sami she wins this round yeah so then we get like Kell Mitchell the invisible boy um which is which is so different from the kel that we've got from Keenan and kel like because that was like the films he came after that if that makes sense good burger good burger but that was that was his nation I actually like the fact that he's been stripped down a bit and that we are saying something different it's just a shame that they didn't utilize him enough yeah um especially that like for the time it was massive like regardless of how you look at it he was a big name but then what he did it's just a shame they didn't use it more that's and it's probably as I said within being quite a new like star or a new person with all these people if the director didn't have like that much of a control he probably was probably cut down or like not not like the TV personality transition and not getting the bigger rules because they're just a TV guy basically yeah it could it could it could have been huge fun but that kids television program was massive like we still did a steer with still caught orange soda who loves orange soda he managed to make a cord last like how many years now when any of the 20 years and it's just a shame that if it is a case of the other actors of getting cobbly on which I love that word and of the of the scenes he's probably just doesn't want to step on tours like he's working up against William H. Mason's a big fucking deal in Harleywood and especially around like an actor circle so I get it but it's a shame what am I keeping up the big sorry sorry I'm just I could get in William H. Mason mixed up with a person who does the golden porcelain? Oh my goodness yeah yeah I think it's been the same type of character type thing I think the clipping brothers like if one day went bad it's like okay I'm gonna be the shoveler or I'm gonna go back and go and back and forth and fall down it's probably like one step away a tight thing I've gone into that madness and you want to say that that's pretty info and I get more I'll get more now that I've actually agree with my book as a little bit but yeah yeah I was gonna say don't people find it more like I know the famous thing within it so I think people do find it like more really about it we get older and it's like I am that person very much so um one of my favorite parts in the movie is the auditions where we get all the different like superheroes that come into it and all the different people now I've got to listen in front of me all the names of the different superheroes we've got the ballerina man big hilly hilly hilly the bull I have no idea it's just a list of when he lifted he lifted he lifted he lifted me up to show me his tutu and they're like oh I didn't want to see that and I was like either a friend of the tutu or something else I think it was better be like a Batman joke that turned like turned wrong but again oh okay remember guys this was very much of the time where you were allowed to make fun of these type of things oh anything that we talked about is in reference to the time of one this game out yes big billy hilly um the bull fighter carmine was a big billy hilly hilly carmine which was the ball and boil ball um carol who was the baller evil devil woman right global man yeah gorilla little mis vengeance the meal man the martial artist mr.
pups mr. pups apparently pencil head which was john's yeah pig and pig two pms avenger which she can only work only certain days of the week which power woman first and power woman second which again was a pissed egg out of Wonder Woman but then they just aren't fighting there was a reference there though quite a comic book reference to a Wonder Woman issue and it was completely lost on people because they didn't elaborate on it right which is such a shame um radio man reverse psychologist son of pencil head erisa head oh they raised the crime did you notice on the the pencil head costume it's at pm so it's a group was originally my big pencil man yeah because it's that's took jaunt um i didn't realize up until literally doing that episode because oh my e's got and you'll learn tomorrow he has a very big filmography and when i was reading through it i went oh my god you said mr. what a coincidence i'm doing that on sunday and Dan was so excited because she loves this bill and she's gonna be so disappointed i didn't enjoy it sorry oh no shappy jennel again just a down like jennel friend there's chris wants to be everyone's friend er there was squeegee man still man super super back man the artiste thirsty man which could be late to be fair and we can we do have the waffler in good or did all of these get like from the screen time in the audience because i don't remember all these no i can't remember the majority of what you just said there i think you might have just seen them in the back or seen them like sailing in the queues and stuff i only went like going through but then with all the names that will give it to all the different people as well um that's it yeah yeah there's some memorable names aren't they try to say about getting the uncle's names but no it doesn't give us them but yeah um makes it that was one of my reasons yeah chris is running away he's giving up on the podcast already he's done he's done he's done he's done he's had enough he's lost a chris we've lost a chris we're um that was kind of like me i love the element where all like this world with the kind of the living where everyone's a shit superhero everyone's to be of like the perfect superhero and again i get i get that understanding of being a nerd i if I lived in a world where sovair was real, I would want to do everything I can to be a superhero type thing. Okay, okay, so what superpower would you have?
And what would you own me? It depends if I'm going to be a proper superhero or a shit superhero. Or a superhero? Or a superhero?
Or a superhero? I'm a thing like this. You've got a dog man or something like that. I'd be the chameleon.
Or the young bits I can just blend into any situation. Oh shit he's back. Um, oh have I put you on this? Well I'll ask Chris.
Chris if you were a superhero and in this universe what would you power be and what would you name me? Oh so it would have to be like a shit power. Yeah yeah it's probably the worst. It would probably be like artificial or pancreas man or something.
It would be just a bit easier. But what would power and what would that give you? Like to help in this type of situation? So should you have your pancreas or something?
Alright, so you would take a superhero. So basically your power is to turn anyone that comes into contact with you into a diabetic. Like super diabetic. Super diabetic.
I'm like oh join me. What? What? What?
What? What? I love us. The diabetic army that he's currently in.
Uh, probably some cult related and stuff like I'll be like cult man and stuff like I could easily entice people to join me that joined the cult. So that's something power isn't anything big. It's just me sitting in the background getting all the minions to do all the work from it. That's the dream.
Instead of me doing all the work for everyone else. Doing the work for me. Yeah, what? It's all the minions to do all of the work.
Let's have some people in the chat come up with Paul's power. What the hell should it be? Yeah. I mean I already have a superpower.
It's called boring people to shit with me. Death. Not me. Death.
No. Oh, I'm a death dog. I know he does. I know he does.
He only does. I'm a mutant or something. Yeah, you're my little sidekick. Oh, we're now so Chris isn't even a full flexing video.
He's a society. He's like, I know anyone's. He's Chris Paul. I know he's Chris Paul.
We're kind of going hand in. We kind of going hand in hand. He's a fabulous. He doesn't look like 18 there so it'll be fair.
Chris would be dive out of the equivalent to a vampire. Oh, call me self-demon or something. No, you've got to get the tea. That's what's going to happen.
You're insulin. Paul is the puppet master. He has all the strings. All the strings.
That's my worst medical That's my worst medical. I want a better one than boring people to death with the effects. I want an actual superpower. So what power would it be?
Instead of killing people, bringing people back from the death but only for 10 seconds. Well, that's a good one. Oh, influencing people to do so far as like I have done before. That's one I do.
I was like, yeah, right. And what you've said, there's not much you like about this one. But what did you actually like, like same wise or like part in a watch with bits kind of stood out to like that. You thought like, I'm actually enjoying this movie at this point.
Anyone. I know I've been thinking about this film, but it was an alright watch. Like, I was at the team. I wasn't amused or like gripped by it.
But I didn't look at me phone but whole of the film. Right. I liked Eddie Azod. It was a disco band.
I really liked that. And the disco bandits. Yeah. I think I like the disco bandits.
And what's the band called again? The. And so no, the Frankenstein. Yeah.
What? And yeah, I think I liked him better than the team. That was a fight. No.
Yeah. I did like Jeffrey Rush, but it's Jeffrey Rush. Like you can't not like him. So he was, he fit bad guy, but Jeffrey Rush does fit.
Bad guy perfectly. And the look of him, the aesthetic of him, I actually really enjoyed because it is that cousin over front in Stein vibe. So he really did play into the name itself. I thoroughly love like I want a cat now called Casanova for against Stein.
Because I love the name. And yeah, the aesthetic of him was spot on again. He fit into. Yeah.
He fit into the, but he could fit into Batman world. And we wouldn't bat an eyelid. Yeah. So the 1960s Batman, I think like as you said earlier, that does fit in quite nicely.
And he would be a good Batman villain. But it was quite interesting. Like the whole, as you said, the premise of the idea is like the big superhero Captain Amazing, or me as well, whatever he's called. Amazing.
And basically he's losing his endorsements for sponsors because there's no bad guys to fight anymore. So he gets Jeffrey Russian's character to be released from prison. Or they're seeing him silent because he wants to fight the big bad guy again. And it's like.
How much, how easy was it for the swear that bored though? Where one woman, the one woman who's clearly playing Harley Quinn, and psychiatrist is like, yes, I find him to be saying, and it was like, mad, are you crazy? And then Mr. Amazing, Mr.
Amazing walks in and goes, I find him to be saying to it. Well, he is saying. We'll put that down. And it's the way to do the stump.
That was quite good comedy time in the sht- Boom. I'll do like, I didn't, like I say that we, I can't sht all over the film because there is certain aspects that I did like, but the vast majority of it is made up of what I didn't. No, it's fine. What kind of things that you like.
So I did like, I think this does take some influence from another film that I do love. The Warriors. Yeah. I tell them how good they are.
Where they've got all of the different gangs that they've got to work the way through to get to the final boss. I'm sure I cast another for this. Does he not say it? Can you dig it?
He does. He doesn't even pick up on that. Does he? I didn't even pick up on that.
I can't believe it. The Warriors is one of my dad's favorite villains of full time and I have never watched it once. I know the scene with the bass and how it's coming out to play. Sammy, come out to play.
You know what? The Pooh Man, I always say this. I probably didn't even give him a chance for us to let his watch it because I always made him watch my sister. But I do, I've tried to watch it before.
I feel like during the middle of the night. It's very dated now. I think if you haven't watched it previously and because at the time, it was very ultra-vile, very of its time. Yeah.
If you watch it now, you kind of compare it to a lot of movies that came afterwards and so it doesn't have the same impact or relevance. But it's just, again, I know we can't back on it. It's a story time and done so well. But it's so simple at the same time.
It's just basically someone gets freamed and they're trying to get back to their turf to be safe. And shit happens along the way. But such a simple concept. It's a big bang on the way back home.
And I bet every gang is something different and there's a different element to it. Oh, I just say I do want to watch it because I do want to be able to say that I've watched these two films of my parents' favourites, which is Warriors and Blade Runner. And I have seen fucking neither of them. So I do want to be able to see in my lifetime I watched a movie that my parents loved.
We will get there. We'll get there one here. Jessica Gondneux, this movie now, as you said, the idea and the premise and I think it was just the wrong time and maybe some of the wrong cast that was used to this. If you changed a few things around, even if you did the movie then, and I had to say it, for example, Tim Allen playing the best of a camera character.
Could have been like an interesting thing because he was probably growing and getting big at the time then. So that in my eyes could have been interesting. That's sort of, it's not a bad shout actually, given that the joke is that he has to get so enraged to get his powers. But Drenstiller is always enraged.
So the joke doesn't land. So if you get someone who's mild and me who can't play mild and me, and Tim Allen is proven that time and time again that he can to build up to that rage to where he explodes, that's funny. That's really good character progression into like, but Ben Stillers didn't pull that off. Yeah.
With the world we live in now, with the amount of remix or retelling or even like making into like a TV show and stuff like that. I do think this film or this story or this idea has a place, especially with the overindulgence of like the Marvel or DC side of superhero movies. And it's been put in like, and things where they've tried doing things different, like the boys or even invincible and stuff like that has proven there's a place for this type of story. So if I would be interested, if I go back then, like without the 90s jokes or the 90s, like remarks and as I said, the miscasting with a lot of the people, that's why I think the nostalgia for me is why I love it.
But the idea, I would love it to be remy now, even if you took some of the cast from like Saturday Night Live, because this was kind of like the Sunday Night, Saturday Night Live, all these actors didn't come through Saturday Night Live from the time. So it's kind of like kind of core through that. Or even. As Rubens as a growling guy, so never ever.
There is actually a Saturday Night Live movie coming out. Going back to the beginning when Law and My Girl's created it and it's going to have people play in the original cast of the first series. It looked, I saw a trail of front and it looks fucking superb, the person playing Chevy Chay is, I'd really think it's him. I think they've come back in time and filmed it because it looks so fucking good.
I'm really, I'm in love Saturday Night Live, so I'm looking forward to that. Sorry. Totally sidetracked and it just came to me mind when you said Saturday Night Live. So guys, what do you think?
Would you think this would kind of work now or anything like that? If they did remake or retell enough of this story? Yeah, I think it would have worked better if it was at least a date, because I think most of the stuff like the anti-heroes that are like taking the piss a bit, it didn't have the films at the beginning of the episode or didn't exist back then. So I think it would hit more now.
Yeah. Sorry. That was a say about Lee, because Lee's on a very like Clark Kent. He's on the throw, like he's got a pile drive or something like that.
I think I've never noticed that about Lee. He's got a prop and a little poke on him and his eyebrow reads as ever so slightly and he's like, hello, well he's win. No Lee, what do you think? And I don't think this would do well nowadays.
I mean, I think they would probably have to change it a lot and go taking far jokes, don't really make a movie anymore. I mean, they have the place and they have the time and they can work, but this whole film is just taking far jokes all the way through and then they just take a smash mouth on the end. So, you know, you're not the game man. Yeah.
It was just a classic 90s, early 2000s move like, oh, I've put a smash mouth on though. Everyone would think, oh, this was great. Well, if they just stuck to the plot and just had actual comedians in. The change in about a bit, like as in the change, like the actors who played it to make it a bit more sensical and the scenery, the cinematography of this movie is fucking all over the place.
Like, I don't know what's real, what's not. Well, I do know what's real and what's not because you could fucking clearly see it. But it didn't know where it wanted to be. Was it in the future where we had like, it looked like it had the flying hovercraft.
So are we back in the 50s? Where's it like the dress? The time setting was and I know Batman see this movie just it. This is why when it first started and you're in that scene with the young, the old people's home, it looks direct.
Like you could have the dark night walking through there and think nothing of it. That would totally fit. And that's where I thought we were going with this. Yeah.
And if we kind of stayed within that fantasy kind of style and that you get with Batman, probably would have been a bit more engaged. Yeah. But when you when you then take it to a city that looks like something out of Blade Runner, even though I'm not saying but I'm just going to go. But it takes you into like a futuristic city to then takes you back out to where you've got castles and you've got like Arkham Asylum and then you've got a woman dressed in 1950s key but then you've got a guy who's dressed in leather where it just.
Because I think that was much. As you said, it was trying to kind of take the piss out of the hall of the comic book genre type thing. But at the moment, they were using the reference for comics because we didn't have as an audience, the reference points that it was probably going to hit like from the movies that was out at the time. And that's that was my hot tip.
I think it was a movie before its time just trying to be a little bit too ambitious for like what I didn't. That's why it does have quite a cool following because of the relevance or like the interest and aspect. Or again, just like the potential story that I was trying to tell. It just didn't land in London if that makes sense.
Yeah, totally. I was really looking forward to this because we've done some not so great movies before. Street Fighter is the first one that comes to me and I thought I love that. And I thought it was going to fall into that caliber and I was quite disappointed that I've not felt that.
That's I think that's what the problem is. I'm disappointed that I don't feel like I did once we watched Street Fighter. Well, when we did the turtles, I don't have that level of excitement for it, which is what I was expecting out of tonight. So it's a movie problem.
It's not the movie problem. It's quite nice that we've had one like quite that's where it's been quite diverse of where I've kind of it's we've not shown it. It's probably not for everyone. For me and Chris, I know Chris doesn't like it as much now.
But it's the start when I first watched it. I was like, I hadn't seen anything like this in the day. So it kind of wilders. Now we've had other things that's kind of similar as a reference to like the boys.
This could be very much like the boys in a way. It could be gritty. It could be rough and it doesn't have to be like so PG. I think that the tone that's down if they went hard with this and tried to make this like quite violent or edgy, it probably would go there, but they tried to do like some where probably the squander probably started to do like a superhero ghost post.
That just didn't work. I think it is quite violent. I think it just needs more realism. Like what are you amazing hitting people in the face with a shovel?
Shouldn't do a lot more damage than what's shown in this movie. Yeah, they're all not legally this, aren't they? Yeah, they're playing through lines up like that. You hit another head with a shovel.
That would probably do some damage. Yeah. Then make it, if that's the case, then make it a bit more cartoonish with the hits and they have almost like the the boing and the capow. Like my dad always describes how comic book movie should look because he is a fan of Batman 66.
So like these don't know it's one. Yeah, he's like if it doesn't have Capou and capow next to it, then it ain't no comic book movie. And maybe that's what this should have done is made it a bit more cartoonish. But again, it's just you don't know where this film fits in anywhere.
No, definitely. It fits in the time of the 90s where there was a lot of these, well, not these type of movies where there's a lot of forgettable movies where not many people did pick up on or kind of got missed. But it's just something that you can always reflect back and say what they try to do. And again, people always cry out in to remix certain movies or don't touch certain movies.
When there's movies like this that is crying out as a retelling to try and move things forward or even makes it a little bit more different or a bit more entertaining. But that's why I think this is always like a good one to bring up because it's every element to it. It's got a good story, a good idea, good bad guy. Because I said, I don't think anyone's going to be Geoffrey Rush in this role.
Because it fits in that. And then a movie like this does live and die on it's bad guy. And it's just to shame the other elements kind of not quite wrong or what they thought for the time would have worked. And yeah, for me, it was kind of like a tale of what could have been.
Because I know the did a movie not similar, but not too long after this. Well, like a Disney one like Sky High where, yeah, and that again, that's a fun movie. It's got Kurt Russell in his like, I think it's about kid who doesn't develop his powers till later on when he goes to the superhero school. And it's got all the different elements.
So again, it's like, yeah, it's like a Disney version of like, could have been this movie. Definitely what I'm thinking of. I was thinking of this in like, everything movie like, Oh, no, I'm not thinking of that. Sky High in the sky.
That's a snoop-dunk one. That's a snoop-dunk one you're thinking about. Well, we did this as part of our graphic novel movies. I'll do it with graphic novel movies.
Superhero, alternative superhero, that type of thing. Where's not? Well, this is a graphic novel. It's loosely based on, yeah, loosely, loosely.
Well, it comes from the Gordon-E edge of comic books. I'm just reading here that's just caught me eye. The first issue of the Green Mask in Dan Jarrett, it was the first Blue Beetle who then ends up getting these on series. I didn't realize this was a thing.
It came out in August 1939. So I generally didn't know what I thought we were. This was just kind of like, because we were doing different comic book movies as opposed to the norm. Yeah.
And I was like, I didn't even read it. And the fact that I did have a comic book. In fact, there's elements that's based on, but I think it's like the characters and everything's got nothing to do with anything that was in the comic book. But yeah, it's an interesting one.
It's one where I think, as Molly said, I think if it was remade, it would do well released exclusively on the stream and so. I completely agree with you, Molly. See if she'd got Molly on rather than Chris. But that would have been a different podcast.
That would have been a different podcast to me. It's going, hello, Molly. How are you doing today? OK.
I want the Cree-Voh, yes. Sorry, Molly's probably just logged in next, I need to pop a question. We're over blessed. It's not going to happen.
It's fine. It will be nice, it was. I don't know whether we had to start now. It's all done now.
So you thought it was going to last? So if we're giving this movie out of five, what were you in there? Just in typical leaf fashion. I don't have anything else to say.
Chris, have you kind of all of your notes out of the way? No, not. Because these guys do just jump in with the ratings and it's like, oh, shut us in the middle of the search. With these guys, these guys.
Sorry, Sammy's not the cut off. It's you, Paul. Let's say what we can do for Lee, now. Lee, bye-bye.
Lee goes away. Lee's on mute. Oh, go on. So, totally.
Lee, just take what you're going to say. Do not take on that keyboard. Do not. Yeah, I think it's right.
Yeah. Use guys with her. Use the guests. Don't forget.
Just wait till you're on our show. I'm not coming on that piece of shit. Oh, the love is all gone. Get rid of them, fans.
Get rid of them. Thing is, because the love is all gone now. It's back to normal. It's talking hour.
Yes. One hour. Hey, I was pushed into a by-lays. Chris was still out.
I'm telling the love hearts of him. It's obsessed. The love is now gone. Would you have anything more to say?
Yeah. Because Lee does tend to jump in right in the middle while we're giving ratings. I don't actually have anything else to say. Whoa.
Chris? Yeah, so from me reading a bit, I mean, most of the stuff is, I love to show me those character roles. And most of the stuff. We're not for kids.
You know, it's all right. We're all sorry. That's because I was saying it's got the actors and where they were in the career. Because I thought they were all like, sort of, but anyway.
And on the facts, I saw that a double Yak lab was removed. And I thought that was, it was removed in the UK. But I thought it was because, remember the European Tango World bit of a band? Oh, yeah.
I think it might be because of that. All right. So it was like, I think that's why they're talking about it. But then what was that?
And I thought, it's funny though, when you talk about like 90s movies and stuff that did take out certain actions or certain attacks, because I thought it would make the movie more violent. Now, the way it is won, and this is factual, because you can actually copy with its cut in. The lyrics was cut because they had a scene where Keanu Reeves head-butted an agent Smith. And the thought the head-butted was too violent, to be sure, and the movie.
And this is the fucking lyrics with some of the most violent choreographed action scenes that's ever been and movie. What the thought? A head-butts. A head-butts was too much.
Yeah. It went too far, all the way too far. Yeah. Well, the other thing that they removed from it was a head-butt.
So, yeah, I can believe it. What was the reason on this? Pidgey. Oh, that's it.
Pidgey in the UK with them to vote. It wasn't the election of the Pidgey movie. It was not a swear-end. There was no blood.