So hey everyone and welcome to Nellio Knoll Podcast. This is part two of Alpixar Talk, and this is Nellio Pongas. Also, if I know the notes, I'm on your host Sam. And I'm the other host Paul, and we have returning Charlotte and Jake, who graciously give up their chews a night to finish.
What we started because Sam really died. Pretty much. Pretty much. We can't have that.
We can't have that. Oh, no, Alex. And thank you for everyone in the chat as well. Thank you for joining us.
Like I say, we'll try and have a few conversations where you're from time to time as well. So we did start talking about the Pixar conversation as Sam turns off the volume on. Sorry. I'm going to get them to be nice to me when they can pick up everything.
Sorry. Nigh apologies. That's it. She gets excited that she still sees herself there.
I'm just going to see the chat. I'm going to see what's going on. Hi everyone. So we'll talk about Pixar films.
We'll talk about our favourite ones. And one, I'd say, and the most to us. We'll get a little bit more. I didn't expect to cry a little bit, which did get to us when we started talking about Pixar 3.
I'm not going to go there again, because I was too much. But yes, I thought it was an interesting starting point. Just to say with the conversation, because I know when the Pixar films did come out, there was a lot of films that did come out. And Disney actually did produce a few films that are on that kind of trick-jip that thought the were Pixar films, but they weren't actually made by Pixar by the producers.
It was like Disney on or I think I was trying to see in time as well DreamWorks was trying to get into that market with likes of Shrek, how you train your dragon and stuff like that. But I think when Disney ones that own self-produced, first one, I think the broader was Valt about the dog. I don't know if anyone can remember that one. Yeah, I definitely saw it.
It wasn't like Jonathan Trevolta or something. I'm sorry, Jonathan Trevolta? It's John Trevolta? Oh, sorry.
Jape was going to be dropping him. That's fine. It's not Jonathan, is it? I don't give a crap.
Valt the Scientologist dog. I'm not really confused. Oh, we mentioned Scientology, they've got to come for us now. Where?
We are not going to go. They're watching us, they're always watching. But yeah, there was like an influx of Disney films that came out that looked like Pixar and you thought, oh, this must be the new Pixar for the ones. I think Tangold came out the same time.
There was, I have tried the others, Moana, of course. That is how the Pixar failed, but surprisingly, isn't Pixar. And also Big Hero 6, which, to be honest, if you saw Big Hero 6 advertised the way it was, looks, you would swear down that film was made by Pixar, but was a really big, big surprise that it wasn't. Yeah.
Well, missing probably the biggest two. Frozen? Yeah, which I bet it's because I hit it. LAUGHTER Yeah, I'm always getting one.
And Tangold? And Tangold was a new one as well. I know Laura in the chat. He's a massive fan of Encando.
So, like I said, we don't talk about what he called. No. I haven't even seen it. OK, you hear the song though?
That's actually an interesting one, because I guess we've had Encando, Antone and Red come out really close to each other. So, I don't know. I can't really say I noticed any massive difference, apart from knowing that it was a Disney thing and then a Pixar thing separately. But I don't know.
It's strange that they've bothered to do this split, right? But I don't know. Do you guys notice any differences? I think the biggest difference I noticed in the music, because especially in Big Hero 6, there was music there, but it was a big spectacle.
It was just sort of in the background. And a lot of it wasn't like original music written for the movie. It was music that Disney had stole. Yeah.
It was just like with Encando and Moana and Frozen. They wrote original music for it. And I think the animations slightly different, especially in the people. Like the people in Encando and Moana and Frozen, they all have that kind of big eye slightly pointed chin, sort of heart shaped face to them.
Yeah, but I think that's because when Disney saw what Pixar would do and they moved away from the 2D linear drones, like from our childhood that we love, to the Pixar computer generated thing, I know I can't remember the last Disney one that was done. Oh, was it not? I mean, we had a conversation that long ago. Was it really late on?
They went back and did Princess and the Frog. But do you mean like what the last first original Disney thing might have been? Well, the last one that was used like to that type of animation style, shall we say? Because I think they're done to, like the Pixar, as Charlotte said, they're steered very close to what the all drones were like.
They got tangled in Frozen. It's got a very like beauty in the beast. Like little mermaid, big eyes pointing, pointing to her in face. But as they pointed out perfectly within candle and turn and red, they've kind of leveled off.
And they are like, see, if you put them back to back, you wouldn't be able to tell which company did, who was it all always off the things? What was the one that did that was like half animated and half like that? And rounded. Yeah.
Was that not the last one that had? Possibly. Hand drawn stuff in it. Possibly.
Like they were getting a sequel this year as well. So we'll find out if they do go back to that as well. But as I think the good will sit in the chat, the cell drawn was the Princess and the Frog, I believe. Yeah, right.
But it's just when they made that move, I think, again, it's probably down to cost effect. And we can probably make the film faster using these techniques than having like so many artists sitting there sitting there, peeing, sleeping, drawing one piece at a time. But I hope, again, I hope in the future we do get them type of movies to get for us, because they do have a little bit of magic to them, a little bit of character. Like a heart.
There's a lot of heart in there. You can tell there's hard work being put into it, so it kind of makes it more special. I guess. They seem to be, if it's going to be hand drawn and sort of seem to be saving that for like our cartoon shows.
Yeah, possibly. There's a lot of hand drawn, sort of new hand drawn stuff on Disney Plus and not coming out. Mm-hmm. Like the shorts and stuff like that.
That's the thing. I don't know whether that's just a time thing. They can probably do a short, quick, other than a put out film. Possibly.
The one that is always confused me though, as well, is I know the car films are all Pixar, but they did a spin off called Plains, which, again, isn't always a brilliant one, but it was done by Disney, not by Pixar, so it's the same type of world. It's kind of branching out doing the things. But I think now, the only way of difference is, if it's got the Pixar logo in it or not, I think Charlotte hit the nail on the head perfectly. It's the music.
I think the big difference, because the Pixar movies do have great scores, but they don't have like the musical numbers or like, well, Coco probably just, will be arguing out the way of that. No, not really, because that's just one song. Like, one song continued out throughout the whole thing, whereas you've got likes of Moana, that has like a complete original soundtrack for each song. And can I just ask the really, possibly gonna come across as a really silly question, but what's the relationship between Disney and Pixar?
They started as a separate company, eventually where, like, say it was like, Disney kind of hired them to do Toy Story. Right. And then Disney's gonna branch out and then could be completely different from Disney. Then Disney's gonna all flex, and I'm gonna buy this shit and this watch.
As to do, right? I think we're just beginning of Disney owning the world. Yeah, there's a bit of a, there's a bit of a weird like offshoot history with like, Toronto as well, because obviously the high visual effects people, who were like, pioneer and stuff, there isn't actually that much visual effects in Toronto, because it was so early on. Yeah, a lot of it is just recoloring, but there is like, you know, the light cycle chases, like computer, and they apparently had to like, type it all out manually, like every, like every bit of code was typed out manually, if I didn't come to you for like every second.
But, so I think, I think you're right Paul, in that they had a relationship, and it was probably to do with like Lucas studios as well, like industrial lighting magic or whatever that is. So I think it's like they've came back and forth, and then I think the guy who ran Pixar, ended up quite high in Disney. So I guess it's like, Oh, this wasn't, a lot of the, the writers crossed over as well for films. A lot of the things are writers, ended up writing for Disney, and a lot of the animators, like the storyboards and stuff ended up working, working for Disney, so Disney kind of felt like the natural progression of things.
Yeah, because I think when you look behind the scenes of the making the Pixar films, well, the still storyboard, everything. So I think originally doesn't start out like on the computer, everything is hand drawn, like on the storyboards, and I've got all the things on the wall, like the entire film, it's beautifully to see. Like I say, it was me dream when I was a kid to always to be there, but for sure, I had a thing with talent, not being able to do it. Oh, but I think- Has anybody seen the documentary about it's like to wear a Pixar?
I've been to the studios. Oh, I'm so much fun. When you go, because when you go to, this is gonna blow your mind a little bit, Charlotte, as well, when you go to Hollywood studio, they've got like a Pixar thing. So they've got rooms where they've got artists and they show you how you can go in and talk them and show them that show.
They're not that way, they're not the ones that the people that's worked on, all the films in the show, they're drawn, but they're sitting in a wall time at the Cell Studio. And when we went, so the Baron of Mine, I was born a Florida from the age of 15 to 22. And the first year we went, it was a Cell Studio and it was literally just a bunch of artists sitting at what the cult, the thingies. And it was short.
It was like boxes and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was Shania, the process of Cell creation. And it was Simba.
Oh. And they were doing Simba at the time. And but I don't know if I should say this or not. My friend, who is an artist in Los Angeles, he's been to the actual Pixar studios, where they do all the work and took secret photographs.
It looks fucking incredible. It looks amazing. It looks amazing. Incredible.
Eastern, some commission work for them. And it's just a, it's unreal to look at it. I don't even know if I should say that. You probably not watching.
Well, to be fair, we do have a Disney artist working in London. I don't know if you know about this. I don't know if it runs triple six studios. Yes.
He's done the artwork for the Jungle Booktube. Yes. We had a massive email back and forth years ago because he was going to do some work for Anne. That didn't turn out but even when he was telling us these credentials, he mentioned that.
Jungle Booktube. Yeah, I'm glad you're not about that. I think there is a bit of a, some Marvel artist, like computer artistry stuff that goes on up north as well. I guess when it's like computers, you can kind of do it from anywhere.
But I've definitely heard about people who like, done some design on like Thor and stuff like that. Harry Potter Studios, some of the big, like, graduates from university, done the CGI on Harry Potter. Wow. Isn't it two like big game?
And does that take places up here as well? Rockstead, has a, has a, has a, used to have an office up. Again, I might be wrong. I might be saying the complex.
I know destruction Darby was made up here as well. We've got some challenge up in the northeast. I'm not saying that. I always keep us around the door.
Yeah. To be fair, like some of the art that gets posted in the group, from some of the members is unbelievable. It always blouses away how, how many genuinely talented artists there are in the group as well. Yeah.
My best friend, one of them. No. I'm sure after Toy Story there was a bit of ambiguity between Pixar and Disney, we're going to be like a complete slit where Pixar was going to have nothing to do with the other people. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. And so we're going to have nothing to do with Disney for a long period. Sorry. Was it not because Disney were trying to sell them to do Toy Story 2?
Well, we're trying to, well, C.F money, they're like, they went to, like, Disney, they don't want to appear for the work they got. But Pixar, like, they're having the balls thing. I think it was, I think William Jackson, was the guy in charge and he just decided, we can do this without the power of Disney. And I think they started projects.
And soon as Disney got wind of it, they have to have stuff and rather than trying to negotiate, they just bought it. So Pixar's got balls, basically. Oh, 100%. That's why they can pick and choose the project.
And how they don't want to get told what they do. Probably not told what they do Toy Story 4, but that's another argument for them. I don't think there's any telling in that. I just think they're naturally script.
And they're like, yeah, let's do that. I'm sorry. I'm still talking. Oh, come on.
You're really in. Oh, you wouldn't have to do Kaboom. Like, come on. You've got to give it something.
Keaton people were hilarious in that. True. What did they do? Was it needed?
Yes. I don't want to go to the limit. Yeah. But I guess that goes on.
Like, I guess that goes on. Like, same picks, obviously, had everything in their favor. I guess that's why we did get so many copycats, studios pop up, like with DreamWorks and stuff like that. And what's the one that does despicable me and everything?
That's a difference. I think it always DreamWorks as well. I think it wasn't the same umbrella. But they've got some strange films.
Like, we've got Cloudy thingy meatballs or something. That's a really good film. I knew it. I knew someone was going to say it.
I'll tell you what's about one. Link back to Pixar as well. Ants. Oh, that's so bad.
The best is the one. What do you all look like? It's not books like that for sure. But it's basically the same story for some reason.
We thought we wanted to look at Ants in the 90s. Sorry. That was fine. When I said that film came out that pretty much did copy B.S.
for B.S. Even though the only mistake of making Ants try and look realistic and human. And that was creepy as fuck. Oh, yeah.
That's the next of the nightmares. Didn't come out about the same changes. I think I was like, I don't know. It sounds a bit like it did.
It was a same year, but it was like, it was a big race to get the first, like, out first. The first Ants. Who's sitting in that boardroom going right? Bugs.
Let's go. I'm sure I watch Ants first. And then, oh, what's his bug's life? And totally forgot about Ants after watching board, like, bugs life just because how beautiful, colorful and scary bugs life was as well at the same time.
Because then, like, the grasshoppers were terrifying. I can't picture now which grasshoppers were in because the grasshoppers in the other one as well in Ants or in Ants. It's at the bugs life. I don't know.
I feel like the bad guy in Ants was just looked like a muscle man or something. It was the grasshoppers in Ants because one of them was called Hopper. No, it was a bug life. How about life?
It was like, yeah. I thought they're generous. I don't know. It was the shit out of us.
I think DreamWorks kind of accepted that they were never going to be as big as Pixar, but they kind of found their niche in the market when they came out with Shrek. They stopped trying to compete with Pixar and they came out with some really beautiful films after that. Like, I love absolutely love how it turned your dragon theories. But they didn't know how to beat a dead horse.
Like, how many despicable mace been off Swimmingians and stuff now? I think that's the thing. I think that studios call like a lumination or something like that because they're the ones doing the Mario movie. The Chris Pratt Mario movie.
Oh my gosh. I'm just looking up now because the bad guy was Hopper and it was he who should not be named Kevin Sve and that's just the cast of Bob's life. That's some big, big names. It's John Rotemurger.
He is a director of Pixar as nearly normally because of his own, like each film. He's like, Ross in Munster's Inc and stuff like that. He's saying. I don't know if he's wrong.
But he's Cliff Cleven from Cheers. Mm-hmm. He's a director now. I'm sure.
Sure. Sure. I'm sure. Somebody in the chat told her.
Yeah, the point is in the noise shit. I'm good. Well, actually point that one. I agree with quite on something because I try to make it too humanized.
Oh, I hear that. Yeah. It's when CGI try and do humans. That's the problem and they try and do humanly sick.
Yeah. It was like the notion of how Joe wasn't it. Mm-hmm. Definitely.
They do it with a Christmas carol as well with Andrew Perry. Christmas carol and Beowulf with Angelina Jolie and Beowindson. That was hilarious. It wasn't meant to be.
It was. Yeah. I think with all life, I said that was the turning point for Pixar when it was, like, other companies try to come for them. I think they just stopped trying because Pixar just kind of wiped the floor with anyone that was going with them.
There's been a few misses, but when they, when they miss, it's not really like a huge failure for them. There's always a target audience from them. Like, Cars has like the McQueen, which is a brilliant character, but I can't get away with a flamingo it's called Newmaning, which is just sacrilege for me to say I don't like it's called Newman Film. But it's just, like, it didn't have as much impact on how many kids love it.
Yeah. My nephew is obsessed with growing all same. I guess Pixar is very toy-y, isn't it? Oh, massively.
Massive. Yeah. It's still sitting there, a few people can be on. It's when it does hit big, like, certain films have smashes out the park, like, fine and neighbour.
You can't get as much tragic beginning as well when we talk about up. Like, so you see these mother getting killed and he's dad freaking out, so he's got a small little flipper because he can only swim in circles. But the adventure he goes on, you can meet the turtles and Dory and then the city of Stik dentist, a woman when in a fish tank, they'd think that it's just because we've all these kids have seen these kids in the past as well. Even the sequel was quite cute.
Like the sequel wasn't bad, I found Dory. Yeah. It wasn't terrible. I mean, for me, it didn't have the same spark as me, and I love finding me more like ridiculously loves it.
I have a lovely pet name based off that film that Carolyn give us. I get called Dory. I knew you were going to say that. Dory, she's called it for years.
And when we were coming back from, there we were. Oh, where were you? Just keeps swimming, sorry. We were coming back from London.
That was it. We were coming back from London and the train got stopped and she had a, as she always does, she had a note pad and a pencils and she drew out. Dory, I still got it. And then for Christmas she bought it as a Dory Mo, going to smash her over the head with it.
I thought you, you think you're funny? Yeah, there I am. I think what Find A Nemo hit really well was like, we just like seen under the sea. And if it's like a beautiful cartoon version, even better, because they did the same for Luca, which was a more recent one.
That's beautiful. It's just like so colorful. When I haven't seen it, it's the one with like little sea monster boys who go on land and become humans when they're at the water. And then that one's like, at least they've got all the like little rustic Italian town and stuff.
But yeah, like they definitely know how to make like something beautiful. Definitely. I think we'll talk about the other day. When I hit PhD, the Pixar films are the ones that shine above anything else.
I remember the 3D TVs were the big chris. And I think, I think Find A Nemo was the first one I actually watched on the 3D TV and it absolutely stood out. I know not many films do 3D well because it's not just like, I've got to have a little bit of a little bit of a, a little bit like a stuff that's sitting in front of us now. But the Find A Nemo one was just absolutely amazing.
And seeing like the coral reef, like everything moving around and like, so yeah, you feel like you're constantly, you're under the sea. It does a lot of stuff with scale as well. Doesn't it find a Nemo? So I can imagine that looking good because like he's tiny obviously.
Yeah. And then there's a lot of huge creatures in the movie and lots of like depths. But yeah. I think the funniest bit of finding Nemo is when he's in the fish tank at the air dentist.
I think I had some of the funniest moments in there. I think I was all this anxiety ridden fish that lives there. That's why I identify with this. And the best, the best George George ever in another film.
I want to call the big shark Bruce. Our friends, not food. What was that one that will Smith did? Was that a shark tail?
A shark tail. Yeah. Who did that one? Dreamworks I think.
Oh, right. Again, give her the same time as Find A Nemo I think. Well, that was a shit for them isn't it? I'm pretty sure I saw Shark sale at the cinema.
I don't know why, but because it was Jack Black. That's where I was wearing. I think one of the best things I picked was the challenge themselves each movie to go that extra mile with the animation, like underwater in Find A Nemo or just Sully's Fair. Yeah.
I'm sure I watched something about Sully's Fair. Not just about Sully's Fair, but it had it in there. And how long it took to have the original strand. It's fucking crazy.
It's really, really mind-blowing. The work it goes into is just a drawing. Yeah, like you're right. And also like the definitely are like technical showcases.
You can tell they are like pushing things, but it doesn't take away from the story. Like, you're not just watching something and like, oh, that's a technical challenge. It's just a drawing. It's not a puzzle.
It doesn't take away from the story. Like, you're not just watching something saying like, oh, that's a technical showcase and there's no like heart in it or whatever. It's like video games sometimes do that. Yeah.
Where it's just all technical stuff, but they forget the story. Yeah. I was like, well done, Charlie. Brilliant call.
But yeah, sorry. I was just laughing at the chat because hashtag and shorts went again. So yeah, sorry. But like, so when you look at, as I said, when you look at the Harry Sully is, you can imagine someone like Donald wanted to hope that he just didn't know quickly.
And like, so nice it would be. But again, one of the ones we haven't talked about, one of my favorite picks are phones. And I never thought I would like it as much just because it's quite simple to you. But right.
So it's absolutely beautiful. Like, Remy and like, say the whole just the premise of it and like how this rat likes the koop and wants to find things. But like I said, I've never made Paris look more beautiful. And the food tech as well, which I had a bit of interning red as well.
Like when the dad was making food, it was like, but it's a little improving the food tech. But no rat to use amazing. And I just love like how the bad guy and it's like a critic, which is obviously. Obviously the movie writers being like, oh, let's take down a critic.
But he turns out like, you know, nice in the end, but it's just such a funny idea. The first time I saw it, I was like, there's a rat in a professional French kitchen or another guy's heart. I was like, where are the food? Like health and safety.
What is going on? Yeah. But he turns off and the rassel. And it is beautiful how they make Paris.
I love when they can make Paris look rustic. Because it really is. I've been in Paris so many times and it generally is rustic. Like it's beautiful scenery.
And it really did adjust us how gorgeous Paris is. Just keep it smell the food on Ratatouille. That was the thing. I love when he's putting the ingredients in the soup and you think, oh, God, I just want to taste that.
It's near your home. And even like, yeah, Ratatouille is a dish that's when I tried and I can't stand. But I really wanted to eat that one. But I know you said the movie critic was a villain.
But I think he was and he wasn't. But that little rat guy was, it looked like a rat, which was quite true. Like he wanted to steal his dad's legacy. He was literally just said the same thing.
He says the critic of villain never saw him as a villain. So yeah, you've got the only one he thought of that. Well, he's a little story arc. So he probably was a villain.
But what he killed is dad technically because he gave the restaurant a bad review and then his dad died. Oh, that's an origin story. That right now. That's a villain origin story.
We're going to start killing our parents. Just the mams though. You've got to have a sad thing. What was he called a guy?
It was such a, like, like, I forgot. Because it was Remy. That was the mouse. I can't remember.
Was it La Guini? That was it? Yes. Who fell in love with the sous chef as well.
Again, like he was very well animated, especially how it was all like the rat making him do, like, wrong movements, which must be extra hard to animate when they've spent their entire career making people look normal and like, oh, we've got some of the crazy. Absolutely perfect. Yeah, but I was always up there with one of my favorite, like, say in the franchise. I know, thanks to the one that I've tried watching, but I've never been able to finish the good dinosaur, which I should enjoy because it's got dinosaurs in.
I love anything to do with dinosaurs. If anyone's watched the new David Attenborough on BBC, that was called the weekend about the last year, absolutely mesmerizing stuff. Oh, I haven't watched it yet. Oh, absolutely brilliant.
Trying to find out from the meteor hits. Sorry, go off topic here. Just, it was so brilliant to watch. I'm basically sure, like, how these animals died.
And then this so far, American dig sites where it became this location secret because they're finding that much stuff. They don't want the world to know about it. But it happened, I think was nine thousand miles after where the meteor hits in next new Mexico. But there's actually a layer of earth where it's like all the debris where the meteor hit even that four way and little crystals are fish at because the ground turned into glass into that was for you to come back down just mesmerizing.
I'm not sure anything to do with dinosaurs. I've just been I've just finished with Norse mythology and just learned about Ragnarok. So I'm all about the ends of everything at the moment. And that was that that is one of the ones we didn't mention Disney's, I think, might have been Disney's first CGI film was called Dinosaur.
Yes. Oh, that's terrifying. When you look back. It is.
I think that was just before the ball pixel. How long was that? I've still got it on the US. Because there was a ride at Animal Kingdom that was called Jenny to extinction.
And it's one of the most it's a child's right. But it's one of the most terrifying rides I've ever been on. Like, Paul, I'm all from the Jurassic Park ride when you have a T. Rick staring in your face.
This one is literally here. And it is massive, like huge. I went on it the first time and then I've been on a million times and caused me eyes every time. It is really scary.
And I thought I didn't know if I had anything to do with that film. That meant that must do. I don't know why you got came out. Yeah, because I think I was like no talking in it as well.
If you've never been so surprised. It wasn't much. I thought I thought I thought I thought I'd had like, I can remember the main dinosaur like having a horrible CJ smile. So I don't know.
I thought I did. You might be thinking of walking with dinosaurs. I was like, it makes it bizarre. I remember watching it, but I can't remember much of it.
So that's sure how memorable it is. The ride in Florida is a lot more scary than the actual film. I think it was a PS2 game. I know that.
I think this was what said Disney a bit because this is where I was there big flop. Because I'd say the pump a lot of money and it was a lot of advertising, but it didn't do anything as well as as a thought. But yeah, like I said, I'm the other ones I was saying, credit was two came out too late. It could have been something I wanted and others, a big marketing campaign saying this isn't for kids.
This is what we've been waiting for. But it kind of wasn't. No, it should have been the Avengers. It wasn't there about the same time that between finding anyone find in Dorit.
Find in Dorit and do that. I think it was just a well more rounded story. I was able to advertise this. We would have talked about it every single day.
She has a chat show. She talks every single day. So the marketing would have been around right after that one. We kind of was too really wasn't that.
I remember going to see you from me first. Yeah. In 2018. What does he have?
Everything feels like that. Probably doesn't feel like long ago, but it probably does now. Every night's came out. But I think with Pixar as well, what they do really well is the little shorts.
The little shorts are come through like the larger one. Like the one where the guy that fixes woody, he visits a chess game in the park as well. The other night. We finally got the Telly Sword.
I have a book here. Telly Sword with a Disney Channel because it really was glitchy as anything. And I'm sort of it. And I said, can we just shove this short on just to see if it worked?
And it was the Dumpla Mon and I sang. I was very poolly this time. For the birds. The for the birds short is my dad's favorite.
My dad's a big pick so fun. It is his favorite pick so I think ever he will watch that all day and laugh every single time. I like the Max new car. It's like the show, so he's new car and cares to introduce.
I like the the cloud's one. Yeah. Yeah. They always do like little like heart punching moments.
Yeah. It must be like the technique where they can just like make you cry in like a short. Test. And then they go like the extremes like Jack Jack's attack as well.
Like Jack's going to just. All we were waiting for the incredible is to was Jack Jack in what his powers were. That's all we were bothered about. I was looking at one paper man.
Do you remember that one? It's like all black and white like it looks like hand drawn stuff. But that's like a quick heartbreak and love story type of thing. Yeah.
Check that one out if you haven't. Yeah. Yes. It's absolutely stunning.
Like, literally again, I don't think anything picks up. Doesn't break them all when it comes to how excited are you for the next one? What's the next one? Oh, like you.
Oh, I see like that's another one. It's like, isn't that like a live action film? No. I just have an ability to be it's on the group over.
Oh my gosh. I love how people was like. If white, white, Alan is in voice. No, it's because it's not Tim Allen.
Yes. So we're getting to see how Bruce Bruce Bruce. I was like, yeah, it is. And his origins as well, which again, from what we've seen, they've not given up too much.
I know we've seen a few of the toys and a few of the pops and stuff, which again, very much excites me because it looks like we want to get a real live action zerg as well. So that's. Oh, buzzers. Far the.
I mean, we follow a toy story to law. I wonder if the class is coming. Well, this is the thing though, because I was saying this is the real life guy or the cartoon character buzz from car. Even sure that was also on the Disney Channel.
It's a whole mess. Yeah. I think the real the corner, this is going to be the live action person who like inspired the toys and stuff. So that's.
Do we think we're going to get a woody one as well? If I do it, what do you want? No, because we've had what he's sorry, what he's round up. I don't think they'll go back and try to put snakes in these buildings stuff like that.
It'd be an interesting tip. I think they've got more score to do with those like, yeah. Yeah. And it's Chris Evans.
Like, come on. I'm so excited. It is. Yeah.
That cat's going to be the star though. That's going to be a big hit. Anyhow. Yeah.
But yeah, I know, actually, we went over quite a lot in the previous episodes with some really dying. I can't. I can't a little bit. But I can remember.
Can I just give a shout out to pick start TV and the most recent one I think, which was the cookies. I loved it. Absolutely loved it. It was the last thing.
What's his name? Who just called twice? I know who you mean. It was the last thing he did.
It was really wild. It was Mr. Frederickson. Mr.
Frederickson. It was the last thing he did. Yeah, the guy. Why?
Why doesn't he keep breaking out like this? I love that. No. I love that.
No. We haven't really had much of Pixar TV, though. That's the thing. We've had Doug's day as well.
Do you think that could be an element, especially with Disney Plus now, that they can break into the shorts that do so well? I know we've had monsters at work, which I know Don is a big fan of, which I kind of lost off. I think, but even then the voice acting in that had the fans in it. Anyone who had the original cast backwards.
I know they don't do it that much. They don't like to test themselves. I know they've got the big, big hitters, like monster's ink toy story and do the odd sequel, but they don't rely on sequels. They'll go on and see what the next story is.
And that's always quite an exciting thing. And while we're just going through the last thing as well, I know everyone's in the chat as well. If we did say if last episode, we were going to do a Q&A. So if anyone's got any questions, they want to ask Jake, Charlotte, Sam or myself, feel free to find them in the chat and then we'll round up.
I'm going to ask the questions and see if anyone has any good access. So we say that before I get to miss stuff. So we've done this. Okay.
So what is your defining moment, would you say if a pixel like the standout moment that you cannot forget? So that's, when you think of Pixar, it jumps out to you straight the memory. I know that's going to be a difficult one for you, but I think it'll be quite anxious because I think there's so many iconic characters and iconic moments that Pixar have given us. I think it'll be interesting.
No, because I think each one of us will probably have a different one. Quite honestly, I think the introduction to Buzz and Woody, like the actual introduction to them was phenomenal. And I don't think you'll ever find to animate the characters who would have such an impact as what they two have had on pop culture. And look, it was like it and the Christmas is talking about it was the highest selling toy of the year.
I couldn't get one. And I was devastated. And I was, I think, I think they are original as well. These are original.
Okay. Anyone's listening to us on audio, Paul literally has, but like, is it behind them? I'm what he said next thing is more. I think I think, I think, I think, if I, like, just as you said, if I jumps through it, it picks on my mind, I think it is that like argument that Woody and Buzz have, like, you are a toy, just like, you're a child's play thing.
It's like, it's so animated, like the facial animation, even though it's like a wimpy cowboy doll. It's just like, it was like mind blowing at the time. Like, you weren't thinking for a second that these are like toys talking. Like, like, they somehow got the motion capture, like, just right where it didn't look weird.
And it just like, sucks you in. And you're like, I can see some of the questions coming over. Yeah. I'm not reading the books.
I'm just reading them. Um, Charlotte. Uh, I think it means probably, twice a result. That means a bit more bits than everybody else's.
Mine is the bit where Buzz tries to fly and he falls and he's on breaks off and he's just lying and just to look on his face when he realises, he's a toy. And you know what? That's mine as well. I can't go sailing no more.
I think it's a magical moment. The realisation that he is a toy. To be able to do that at the time, because at the time, the animation wasn't what it is today. Like, to show the emotion on a plastic toy's face like that.
It was amazing. It was so clever. It's crazy. We all had a choice for a moment.
Obviously it's a defining point to Pixar because it's the one that they started it, but it broke everything. And it gave you everything as well. Yes. And I said it last one.
You could go back and watch that today and you think that was made this year. Like it's perfect. I'm a little proud of us. I'm not.
Not a bit too much. What do you think kids of today, like growing up on more recent Pixar films? What do you think they're more than they would be? I'd probably say monsters think more than anything else.
A name off. I think it probably depends on the age. We were lucky enough to be at the start. But if the parents did things right.
Exactly. It all comes down to the parent and how they show them. But honestly, I would still say a toy story would still be up there. Did you guys see Toy Story at the pictures?
Because I don't think I saw it till the Beat just came out. But I can vividly remember picking it off the shelf and stuff like that. It's clearly a core memory. I told you mine came with the first DVD play.
We all had stuff about it. I saw it the same way when the first week came out. I went by myself to see it. Really?
That used to be my son. As a kid, what the pictures and see what I was on. Because people I grew up with were I was saving cars or cause of course and trouble. I haven't had a choice to talk about the people I grew up with and do them type things.
I bought the cinema. I got the TSP. I got the TSP. So everything I saw was for 50 pence.
So when you opened a bank account with TSP each month you just got a pack of cinema vouchers. So to put all that mark on the other side isn't there. I don't think I've got the pictures by myself. It doesn't bother me.
Is anyone to talk to? I was probably 12 year old kid. No. It's amazing.
It's amazing. It takes in. I was like, oh, it's almost falling. It's almost falling.
It's almost falling. The boys be sitting in the cinema. Because with the amp called Empire the LAC, as I mentioned before, you start two cues and you go around to 10 or two films on four. The adult ones later on.
The likes of seven and stuff like that. But yeah, I used to be always at the front because I get up in the morning, go to the pictures, wait in the queue for the film to start. People used to just take us into that. I was walking past Jealously and having to go and stand right around the side and the back alley behind the cinema.
We had to wait for five hours to see what Super Mario Brothers movie. We've got a few questions now. I'm going to fire these up. I don't know if they've been set individual.
I'm just going to fire them up. This one's going to go to Sammy. It's from Ghana. If you could live in a Pixar world, what world would you pick?
Oh my God. Coco. Coco. Coco 100% Coco.