The Nervour and Nigg's door. And welcome to the Nouri of North Pothas, it's a Nouri Pothas and it's also by Northern Earth. I am one of your hosts, Sam. And I am the other horse Paul.
And we're joined by two majestic beasts of human beings this evening. The first, the beautiful, the godlike, the App of Essent, Jiek. Hello, Jiek. And with my cool guy, gang now, I thought you'd look.
Oh no, we do have plays. He's one of the baddies now. And we're joined by the sexiest human that has ever lived. He looks like a bit of a Tran, but he is a beautiful man.
But the beautiful soil. Hello, Lee. Hi, Paul. Hello, Lee.
What's the matter, Lee? What's wrong? What's wrong? It's not for the photo, but I brought it on myself, didn't it?
What photo? The one I accidentally put up too early. I mean, it's the only. It's a total accident that flew across the sea.
Try on this one. No, it's not. It's a big, big, big thing. Ohhh.
What is he singing? It's so radiant. Never end him, sorry. So yes, that was supposed to be a little surprise for later.
But yeah, I fucked up. Sorry, guys. This is what happens when you do live shit, but yes. But Lee, I'm sorry.
We've been into you today as well. You've come on the podcast, you're missing your pizza. We're not even fading the poor boy Lee as well. Now I live in that true poor boy life.
Yes, he's in body. It's fine. He's going to pick on his own. It's still lovely to see you.
Oh, I'm happy to hear too, Lee. And a chat I love in you as well. Oh, like everyone's excited to see the Lee in the chat. The Lee.
And the G. It's just Riley. It's just me, just me, just me, family. Nobody else.
At least the family watches us. My family is watching the podcast because you swear too much. I know Chris isn't even here. He's decided to do a social event or something, like a mad man.
Chris is not in the chat. No Chris is banning us for the evening to be at a wedding. Chris. Yes.
And he's king as well. King of this month. Yeah, we should revoke his title. Probably give it a hobby for the third time, so we can have an hour.
So yes. Oh, and here comes Joe. So the chat's in it as well. We've got Beth.
We've got Joe. We've got Reverse. We've got Hope. We've got Martin.
We've got a few with the regulars and a few with a nice people. So nice to see us as well on this gloomy. So we've got a page as well. We've got a lovely page.
So, so we take away. Oh, Doug, he's just gone crazy. But regardless, how you're doing it? What is being watched?
Who wants to go first? I've been watching loads. All some reason. I went and saw the new Mean Girls movie.
That's a music girl. Oh, these are the scenes. At the cinema, cashing in some free tickets, baby. But no, that was interesting.
I haven't really seen the first one, so I can't really compare it. Just one is just amazing. There's definitely cameos though. There's some cameos that you want.
But no, I liked all the songs. I'm not going to suck off of musicals anyway. The more melodramatic, the better for me. And it was very much like a total stage show.
The scene transitions didn't really make sense, but it was okay because you can get away with that with the musical. Just kind of use the music videos to gloss over continuity. But no, I had fun way better than I was expecting. Because a lot of people seem disappointed by the songs for some reason.
Oh, right. As far as I heard, it was like a standard musical affair. Like anything that's popular, like six or something like that. Yeah, when I heard the words, when I heard the words, I was like, originally all I heard was it was a remake.
And I was like, why would they do a remake? And then they said it's a musical. I was like, oh, that makes total sense. And there's same actors and same casts, playing similar roles as well.
So I was like, oh well, and main girls are such an easy and likeable film to watch. So it'll be hard to hear this movie, I guess, unless some of the performances are really, really bad. Yeah, like the only thing maybe was the main girl wasn't super great at the scene. I heard it a bit weak.
I heard it was a bit weak, but apart from that, people loved it. But did they use the line? You go, go, go. Yes, definitely.
Yes. And Fetch was the thing. Oh, go ahead. I end.
Go ahead. Stop trying to make Fetch a thing. It's never going to be a thing. It's never going to be a thing.
It's going to be a thing. Um, and also I watched Sonic the Hedgehog 2, which I thought was terrible. Yes. Give us up on Tic on Sonic 2.
Oh, there's a really like a hot take that needs to happen about it. It had, it was just the story. It was kind of boring somehow. The mid knuckles and master emerald.
And super sonic boring. Um, and it still had that. One. Possibly.
And it still had that weird stuff in where like we're talking about Olive Garden again. There was all this like, Sonic is the son of the Wukowski family. Like just like frigging Cyclops or X men. Foreign wife.
Why are we concerned about his wife's sister's wedding getting ruined? Like in a sonic movie? That's like James Masterson just to fuck off and just give us a little blue bastard. That's all we've been for here.
Yeah. Like it's like Masters. Masters. Masters is it.
Spike from Buffy. Oh my god. Oh, dude. You're the best video.
Oh. That's the most animated ladies we've had in a while. So. Yeah, like it was at its best when it was being a super video game anime sort of like look, they're running around the level.
Like, oh, Sonic's in Labyrinth Zone sort of thing. But that was only like maybe like 30% of the movie. And the rest was just weird like comedy bits. And there's that weird guy who plays like the crap policeman in town.
And he always just looks like he's cracking a smile when he's acting. Cause I think he's just like a comedy guy. Like the bumble and policeman guy. He's like, I'm happy I'm in a film.
Please just let me just smile. I think so. But it comes off as just like, this isn't real acting. Like I can see you wanting to laugh at your own jokes.
That's like what you're doing. You're not a good comedian either. If you laugh at your own jokes, apparently. Did you get my stash?
No, it's really weird. It kind of just looks like, you know, like a Charlie day knockoff. Same kind of characters are like, oh, the wacky sidekick has to look after the town. Cause Cyclops James has gone on honeymoon.
So they can film on location in Hawaii. Like it just feels like a tax right off. Possibly. Possibly.
Yes. Side two gets two thumbs down. Yes. Yeah.
Well, but you probably want to be watching. Probably the best thing I've watched this week is Masters of the Universe Revolution. All right. Oh, I haven't caught up yet.
It is amazing. Load of people are seeing it loads better than the first season. But I prefer the first one. Like the ones where he man wasn't in it.
Cause we've had loads of he man over the years and it explored the side car at the bit and broadened the horizons of the Masters of the universe. But no, this new season is still excellent. All right. I'm going to catch up on the Lord and Savior Kevin Smith.
Cause he's involved with it. So we will watch and do anything that Kevin Smith tells us to do. Yes, Kevin. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
I don't watch anything he tells me. Sorry, Kevin. That's interesting though. I didn't actually know there wasn't official he man in that first season.
Cause I just assumed it was literally like a like how they did she rather just going to like reimagine like the old series and stuff. Kind of like kind of not would kill him off in the first episode. And then like say the core for the full season, trying to like live without he man and stuff. So it's quite quite interesting to you.
The voice actor in it in the first season was absolutely brilliant. I thought yes, I will be checking that out. Thank you for reminding me that. What about you, some of you what you've been watching?
Um, I've not been watching a great deal. Um, I'm I'm back watching my yearly event of Red Dwarf. Cause I found that it's now all on the BBC. On the BBC.
It's on the BBC. Just like I've been on the BBC. And we get it's on my Red Dwarf. Um, but what I did watch the other night, which oh gosh, um, was to catch a copper.
Oh, right. Yeah. You did rant in our group chat while you're watching that. It was like, it was like shot with the screen maddening.
If you want 45 minutes of pure rage, I'd suggest you watch that program. It's the same kind of set up as 24 hour in police custody, but it is police, police and police. And just showing you how absolute, not corruption, not corrupt, but how it is just some people that just awful man. And just they don't deserve to have that kind of job.
They've just got no compassion or anything. It's not a nice program. So yeah, who watches the watch for an eight? That's a spoiler for me to come later as well.
So yeah. And so that's really all I've been watching. I'm just back to Red Dwarf and getting rage for the channel four. All right.
But I'm back on a Dexter kick after last week's episode. I've kind of continued watching on just because once you start watching Dexter, it's like a drug, you just don't want to, you need to go on the journey for it. But I thought, because I'd said I would wait a few episodes in to give you an update on the most fantastic TV show of all time, all 13 seasons of it. I kind of believe it's got 13 fucking seasons.
I'll tell you that. Moon Shiners, yes. So I've watched four episodes in. Basically, Mike, the little decade who I didn't like last season is back.
But he's having a team up with Richard because they had a bit of a, like a few last season that were going on at each other's patch. And one of the head moonshine is like the big boss man. It's like the fucking mafia now. It's like embarrassing.
Had a meeting with him and said used to have got to work together. Otherwise you can't work now. We can't count. And they're like, Oh, no, we're customers are in this county.
And they're like, so they're like crashing heads and being all entertaining stuff. And I'm like, it's hard because you tell them. They can't make a pretty much pretty much. You know, the tool blocks up Sammy like tickling.
Oh, yeah. One of them is being diagnosed with a blood disease and he hasn't got long to live. Oh, no. So some sad news there.
So he's decided that I don't know if it's, we can't even have to make a short, like just made up for the show. But they've decided that with him not having much long to live, they're going to make the biggest ever moonshine run that's ever been known. So they're basically going around and getting to take the fucking Avengers of moonshine. They're getting a team of moonshine.
Moonshine is a symbol. They're getting the team of moonshine is in to make this big batch of moonshine. They're just going to blow up. Oh, this is how it ends.
It's moonshine. Yeah. So that's been my entertainment for the last week. Honestly, it's so weird because it's like the two little more ones now before.
Please do not do moonshine and you want to back it up. It is illegal and you can't die. Well, now you just want to do it even more now. That's cool.
I'm so lucky I was back up back here on the podcast for the moonshine. That's 2024. We'll just do it for that. That's all I moonshine is one day.
I'll make everyone watch it. Just like us in a room and then we'll do the podcast afterwards. To see everyone's faces just like absolutely hear the names like, yes, all we watched it. And I'm just sitting in the corner with the black eyes like yeah.
I did that's Sammy lost her brag with me. No drink moonshine and it'll be like in a foil wedding. I've never tasted moonshine. We're the top about it.
I really want to try it but I don't know what. Yeah. You know, drink it though. I know but I've got a jar of it for Christmas one year but it got me man.
No, it was suddenly fridge for ages and I was completely forgotten about it and I don't know what happened to it. I'm probably through it. Maybe still there. I'm in the back of the fridge.
Let's have a wander back into the back of the fridge and it worries us drinking a jar of something. What would you be fair? Let's make our next make up really interesting. To be fair though, with our big ears now we could pass as moonshine as now so we can do it.
I'm speaking with you. There's female moonshines as well as you find out during it as well but yes. That's some dungarees. I can pull that off but like fun will turn them off.
Just get the banjo out. Ding, ding, ding, ding. So yes. Do you want to do your disclaimer lovely lady?
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Sure. The movie we're here to talk about. So Lee, give us the introduction because I think you would do it best. Did you?
We're talking about Robocop. Bad motherfucker. Yes. I'd buy that for a dollar.
Can I just start this off by just talking about the first thing that pops up before the film even starts is the warning which just says violence substance abuse, smoking, sexual content. And I don't even think that does it justice. The whole film is just fucked. And that's not a finish.
Is that a little bit more of a warning? Is that a warning or just basically saying we think you should be doing these things while watching this movie. Like a guide for the movie to try and understanding what you're going to experience. So yes.
I remember watching this far too young. Far too young. No, actually I'll say far too young. It was literally a couple of years ago and I've just watched it again for the second time today.
So enough to young. But before we get into the equity of it, can I give you the tagline for this movie? Right. Yes.
You are going to love it. It's amazing. I think I remember it. But yeah.
Shoot. The future of law enforcement. Part man, part machine, all car. Yeah.
He is really when you think about it. Like Murphy doesn't really have much of a character other than he's the nicest coffin in like the broken down precinct. Yeah. He's got his little cowboy move that he likes to do.
Yeah. Like the only thing he can buy me with is Sonan. Like can you do that dad? Yes.
I said I can remember watching this for the first time. Just like I'll be honest. I didn't understand what the fuck was going on. All I was like say four was towards the end when we got like the robot on robot action type thing.
And for many times, like when I was younger and a bit stupid, I actually preferred Robocop 2 for some reason. I don't know what the war on drugs more. That's a kid possibly. But as an adult, when I've watched it back and watched all the like the movies, because there is a few movies and the TV show as well, the first one it's so cleverly done.
And I think it was Paul Vihorven, I'll try and answer that there. Yeah. Who directed it, who's done some interesting choices. It's very interesting choices.
Starship troopers, which yeah, total recall. Blade Runner and my brother, the Vihorich. He had some of the people there. He was on set and gave him influence for Robocop.
Wasn't that. But however, my favourite. Sure girls. Yes.
Which is more sci-fi in this movie level base. It's not sci-fi anymore. It's too real. That's the one that I was going to mention as well.
I feel like this is a very unrealistic movie. It's like so far-fetched. I mean, come on. Corrupt policemen and greedy corporations.
Don't have that in real life. I'm going to work after you're dead. Yes. Yeah.
Can I ask you a question straight up about why it's like fresh in my head. Did he sign a contract to say you can take my body after I've died? As part of this program. Or did they just simply steal him?
I think the story is OCP owns the police precinct. It's like it's as if governments have like privatised everything. Which fun again, ripped from the headlines. So I think like OCP, like yes, he probably did sign that contract.
We probably didn't read the rovo. The fine place. Probably wasn't something that we own you mind, body and soul type thing. Again, with the callbacks of this film as well, what I did love about it.
And again, it's probably like, as you said, you get the similar things with Starship Troopers. It's the kind of like the TV adverts or the news reporters and things like the one like the talking like smiling through some horrific news part about like nuclear war, apparently coming from the country now. And then like, say there's an advert for a game later on about it's called Nuke to something like that. And it's like, sort of being very playful with scary things.
As Jake said, it's all about like, today you lose everything's fucked. Yes. Why are you so happy about it? Just scary, just scary.
It's one thing I love about it though. It's actually, I think it's got like it's set in is like obviously this came out like late 80s, right? But it's like concept is very sort of in my mind, like 70s, you know, like how like you had stuff like like taxi driver and stuff. It was like, you know, the crime, there's like the crime spree in the city.
It's like very much like that, like how people used to talk about like New York back in those days. So I'm really, yeah. Crime written. And it's very much like that.
They've just like pick Detroit and they're just like, it's like a war zone out there. Like the roaming gangs, the area. It's like, it's another one of those things where you're like, how do normal people live in the city? Where there's just like roaming like future gangs.
It's doing George Dred, isn't it? Yeah. I was gonna have Dreds watch that. It's like George Dreds watch, Iron Man and went, oh, fuck, I'm gonna try that.
Yeah, it is incredibly influenced by George Dred. There's like no qualms or hidden secret about that. So I found that, I've been asked all that straight away. I think I've seen George Dred more than I've seen this movie too.
True, even has like a special pistol just for him. Yeah, which was then I've got a little fun back about that. The FBI had to clear that gun. All right.
Yeah. But it's a modified gun. So it is still an actual, because even though it's a prop gun, it's still modified that the FBI still had to clear it. Right.
To be used. Just to make sure they're not making anything that shouldn't be out in the world. Exactly. It would be an interesting gun to have out.
Jake, I think you touched on a good point as well. Like the setting and the tone of the film as well. I think the movies of the time, especially from like the 80s to even like all the way through the 80s, like it was like fear mongering that guns and that crime was going to basically be like the end of America or the end of society as we speak. And that's what the tone of this movie is.
It's like the fear mongering that it's going through. But then you've got the big corporations or CEP. Or CEP isn't it? It's all right.
I'm the consumer proctor. Yes. Basically, because that's not really different. I was getting confused with the way that I was wearing for some reason as well.
Yeah. But they're basically kind of pushing it because the one to this new utopia that they can see that they can kind of mould and that what they think the world should be or what they want to make money to change it. But even from the start, because it doesn't ease you in nicely. It's not like, oh, we're going to take you down a nice little journey.
Like the start within the boardroom and chaos just happens when they're having the meeting and they say, OK, this is going to be the next thing in law enforcement and the next thing in army recruits as well. Like the scare of the thing in the back. I'm on my arm. It's ready.
It's ready. This is this perfectly represents the police. It's like it's like literally the scariest thing you can imagine. So it's like a giant firstless mech with two machine gun off.
And it's like you would not like there is no world where you would be like feel safe with this thing. Absolutely not. And can I just say for the designs of like the designs as well, like the design of Robocop himself was absolutely beautifully done. And like saw iconic and I drawed eye to it as well.
And as you said, the tank that the front did, I'm not going to try and say the code because I'll totally show myself up. But just call him Ed. Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed, 209. That is just brilliantly.
And I don't think many sci-fi, like sci-fi films, especially have made better looking robots than they sell more realistic looking robots. Because when they're using CGI now, it's kind of got that fake gloss over. And it's kind of like almost looking like it's rubbery as well. But these like Robocop, I don't know how they did that.
I know the views that like all the models and stuff you do. And it gives you hand and. And it actually, you know what, there's lovely, actually this episode lovely, lovely, lovely, tight and greyish with our monsters episode on content museum, now, Rick Baker. The guy who is the makeup artist, special effects and designer and creator of everything that you've just been talking about is Rob Button.
And he is the prodigy of Rick Baker. He is the guy who brought you the thing. Right. Whoa, really?
Yes. He is the guy who brought me the thing. He is Rick Baker's prodigy. He made this by hand.
Fuck off. Yeah, because it's a stop motion model and some scenes. Stop. I thought he told that Robocop, I was like all the bib bits.
Like it's totally like that big or something, isn't it? Yeah, Ed, you were nice and tiny. But Robocop's suit is genuinely his suit. It absolutely nearly killed Peter Weller to be in it.
He lost three pounds every day by just being in the suit. That's why when he looks so incredibly slim when you see him at the beginning, because he's already shot all the suit parts. And it was so hot in there, he was in that suit. Every little bit, every little thing that he seems to get on is mirrored by Rob Button and his team.
And me as an. That's awesome. Because like, yeah, like you're right, like the way how it stopped motion. It actually cleans up really well in like the Blu-rays and stuff where CGI doesn't always.
Sometimes like it looks great when they do like the HD Passover. But yeah, I remember watching like the Robocop Blu-ray and thinking like, whoa, like two or nine looks like super clean. Like I just didn't really understand how they did it. It looks like even more real somehow.
Yeah, like here in it's a model, it still doesn't take away the fear when it's actually on screen. Like I don't know what it is about it. Like it might have just been seen it way too young. And like it does have like a lion's roar as well, which doesn't help.
The voice behind it is pretty terrifying. Yes. It's actually about that big. The only thing I did question about it is like, I know it's hilarious when you watch it back now, when he falls down the stairs and he's on his bark and he's like, I'm like, what a robot for really me?
It would be like, you can hear the game score round and try to get back up. But it would be like screaming like it's in here and like it's salted. No, you saw something for it? It's definitely like a big cat noise for sure, like a stock noise.
Maybe they're just laying there and tickling and middling noises. Yeah, I go back and forth, you know, on like, should the robots like make like Godzilla Kaiju noises? Because it happens in like Metal Gear Solid as well. And it like in works in Metal Gear, I feel like.
Again, I think the Metal Gear Rex is very like, Edtole 9 influence. It's like, Kojima's a big movie guy. He doesn't talk about it very often, but there's a lot of movie references in all of his like video games. And yeah, I don't know how I feel.
I think like a little goes a long way with the roars and the animal noises with you, you make robots. I think with the movie as well, and again, with most movies like that is kind of like set to a bit, like not to the ridiculous levels where like fantasy and stuff. It lives and dies with the bad guys. Oh, guys, the guys behind you.
Well, it's not just them. Like the whole movie is full of just arseholes and bad guys. Like, it's when you're watching the movie, you're trying to find the good guy in this. Yeah, it's just Lewis pretty much.
Ah, she's adorable. There is one other person that I do love who I do think is actually a good guy. Johnson, Donald Johnson, the black guy and the director's. Oh yeah, that way he's just like, tastes like maybe through it.
Like, it's like the end of the end of the day. So good, nice guy. And I read that he's like, roll a backstory for his character when like acting in this role that he had to go home every night and drink, he sorrows away because of all the bad things that he has to let slide in order to like keep his job in this company. But who was your favorite bad guy in this?
I know it's going to be the most obvious question to ask. Good old Red Forman, Bodega. This was always Clarence to me. This was the first place I ever saw.
It's like, yeah, like personally, I quite like the guy who makes Robocop. I'm blanking on his name. Like, you know, the guy with the dick. Is it Dick Clark?
No, Dick Clark. Dick Jones was the CEO guy, but then you get the guy below him. So the worst hairline that's been seen in a movie in a long time, let's be honest. I just like what I like about him is like, he's probably the most like pathetic bad guy in the whole movie because all he wants to do is like get ahead in the company and like, he's like screws people over, he like talks to me, I people's backs and gets like caught.
And then he's like, obviously, he messes with like the absolute wrong CEO in Dick Jones, who's got an army like gang members behind him. Like, I pisses all over his own hands. He's just like, yeah, I'm good. I'm like, what?
I'm doing yourself. I miss that as a kid as well though, but I saw back now as like, she was that nervous and scared that after sure, how well like, how scary Dick was in that company because the other corporate people were scurrying out and running away from like, say, out the bathroom. So that's when you knew bad shit was going to happen or something was going to go down. And it was quite interesting.
Yeah, some self-blown, pretty much. Yeah. As he was having one of his apparently normal drug fuels, cocaine nights. All the rain for the eighties.
Friday night, the eighties was like, yeah, let's just get two models as anybody around. Who will fight and all of it to have like some time with them, which maybe feel extremely uncomfortable. Yeah, he's not the most attractive man. Like, his money would definitely be the only thing that would be driving them to.
But Miguel Ferreira is quite an interesting person and he either has such a connection to Dominique Dunne, the girl from the Polyguys who got murdered. He was actually there that night. All right. He was in the house while it was happening outside.
And trying to panic, didn't really know what to do. He was also a Brendan Lee's best friend and was his Paul Verra at least for general. So Miguel Ferreira is incredibly interesting, but incredibly creepy in this movie. Yeah.
Absolute slimeball. A lot of these guys got the Twin Peaks job because David Lynch liked this movie as well. And I'm like this guy right behind me. It's even Palmer.
Yeah, Laura Palmer's dad. They're always like, that's what it's called. He's also on the bus. And Tanoski.
The one that looks like Young Builder. No, that's the him. All the one with the hair. Yeah.
He's not the only player. Yeah, he always plays a bad guy. He was a devil in Reaper and stuff like that. He's very famous for like his Twin Peaks role.
And yeah, Miguel shows up there as like the annoyed FBI agent who hits like, you know, the small town country police force. He's excellent in Twin Peaks as well. But yeah, like I love like this bad guy team behind me is pretty much my like all like top time action movie like group of bad guys. Cause I think you've got everything like you've got the guy in the Barre who just like laughs at everything.
Like you know that he's like, you're like, you're like, oh, I didn't get to keep his car for long, bless him. No. And then you've got a meal who's like, you're super like loose cannon. Like, because he just like decides to like knock over like a petrol garage like for no reason.
Just like, it's really horrible to that guy. I'm gonna go, hey, college boy. He's gonna be thinking out smart, I think about it. I was like, yeah, because he sees he's he's he's reading and he's just like it.
Like, he's like, what are you reading? Like, he's like lifted up to the window. He's like, oh, you were college right? Oh God.
He's just like the guy that you just can't put a foot wrong near because like anything will like set him off. And then obviously like you've got Clarence. I don't think the other guy does much to the Leel and Palmer. He's just kind of there to laugh along with everyone.
He just laughs a lot. But then you've got Clarence who is like one of those characters you rarely get anymore where there's just no like he doesn't have any like backstory like redemption backstory. Nobody changes or anything. He's like just one of those like massive bastards who seems to have like contempt for like all life.
Like here's the cops. Yeah. He's like killer. Oh, killer.
But they kind of set the stage like the set the set of the emotion at the start with him as well. When you're in the van and he's given the instructions is like they said, oh, can't over the cop car. He said, don't want you to get everyone. I just want you to slow down.
So we can do all this. Shut up. And then when one of his gang kind of takes a hit and he's like, he doesn't even bat an eyelid. He just like, can you fly Bobby?
They get more and more in more lines that comes out of Robobop. And then you're just like, what does he mean? And because you've not watched the film, he's like, what does he mean? Can you fly?
And then you realize, oh shit. And then he actually went actually doing the guys begging not to be thrown out of the car. But it's just that ruthlessness and again, pure evil that we don't always get now in these days because everyone's got to have a sad story or this reason why they're bad or a redeeming feature or maybe a plan or swear maybe the right, maybe the wrong. Yeah.
There's one question on this. There's no complex in this guy at all. You just have a few dickage. He knows as well though, they don't even fall back on the old trope of like, oh, well, there's henchmen on as bad.
And if they get a chance, they'll betray him because it's too far. Like everyone's 100% in with this guy. Like there's no question. The only part where it like wavers a bit is when he gets arrested and they're all like out on the town.
And then as soon as he shows back up again, it's like, oh, no, Clarence is back in charge. Like, don't skip a beat. You know. There's kind of a kind of a horror and failing to the group as well because when Murphy and Lewis go into the warehouse, like, well, not the warehouse, the steel mill or something, I have to try and tackle them.
There's a lot of factories that I'm not really sure what are. I still don't understand why the steel mill's got a lot of toxic waste, but again, moving magic. They didn't give a left superhero. Like, no, you had more toxic adventures.
That guy from excellent one who's like a bag of water. But now you've said the make up guy is from the thing. That saying now makes a whole lot more sense. Yeah, it's all jelly as well.
I would have a lot to see how it was being. Literally just kept pouring jelly over the top of him to give him a kind of good experience. What really got me though is what was actually in it because the mini hits the car. He is literally liquid.
Yeah. There is nothing else but little liquid hits that screen and I'm like, it's chicken soup and something else. I can't remember what noodles. Something else like that.
Liquid. Yeah. Just don't eat the chicken soup that lean makes up stuff. That's honestly.
The censorship people wanted to take that scene out. Yeah. But I think it was before them was like, no, no, like everybody laughs at that bit and the test screen and we have to leave it in. There is a cut of it where it's not in and I think that's what they use for television.
So there is a kind of a cut down version of Robocop that they would like sing on telling so they could tell me with it. I love as well. Like when that happens, like he goes up to his friend, the part where they only just like it. No!
It's like, don't touch me man. Yeah, yeah. Well, you wouldn't want to be touched by the toxic man. No.
The blutes platter scenes at the end though really made me laugh because when Red Forman gets back to the dose and it's through the neck, it literally just goes, what was it he's neck? This film is like one of the most squibby films ever. Like everyone's just exploding with blood constantly. That's the thing.
I can't understand why the one had ducked it out. It didn't have a problem with the Murphy scene being his origin story, shall we say. When he's gotten in the gun and they've gotten pinned down, it's almost like a torture scene and it's so brutally and slowly done as well and how he's picked apart. And it's like when he starts off with a hand and he sees hand fully removed and again.
It's horrible that that was like burned into my childhood brain. When he's gone off. Yeah, he's the height from it when I was a kid. I didn't want to look at it.
As well, like any time they say that we get in shot, things exploded on him, bless him. Yeah, the making time to get shot. And then the headshot as well at the end is one of the more brutal headshots that I've seen instead because I know you see where the look fake. That one looked realistic as fuck and again very well done to the make-up artist who did that.
But which goes off to the same line then he's like, he's breathing. Like fuck will he be still breathing? Well, come on. I was writing stuff down as I was watching it.
I was like, how is he still standing? How is he actually not writhing in more pain? He is really not screaming realistically when he's, I mean, don't go around with that handy handle or not. So I don't really know what that feeling is.
But I can imagine it would sing a little bit. He just does that Peter well. Isn't it Monica not something like that? Yeah, it's like part of the part, Monica and part of him.
And just like the whole bill really. Apparently though when they made the film, the Monica and was that realistic, it actually disturbed him to see him getting shot because he felt like it was quite realistic. That was a surprise. That's a word, wasn't it?
At least they used a mannequin for him. The poor guy that gets shot in the boardroom by Ed 209. He had over 200 squibs on him and he said every single one, when it went off felt like getting punched. And he filmed it and then he had to come back up the day as later because then he hit the film again.
That's something that's going to go right. I would have been like, yeah, you're going to have to shoot me in the back. I cannot do it again. Wow.
Okay. You're going to have to do what he felt like. What I really loved about his death scene was the fact that the kept his eyes open all the way through. I was sort of, and he's drawn kind of like, he really did get the realistic look of like, like, oh yeah, like death is coming because your eyes will permanently see open in the state, open in the operation room.
And the only time that the clothes is wet, and I love these bits, is when we're seeing a point of view from him. Yes. When they're creating, that is so fucking good. And it was so well filmed as well.
It's probably an idea and it just shows you how, like they didn't treat him as a human anymore. They kind of saw him as an object. It was like, oh, when she says I was managing to save his arm. She's like, why the fuck do you save his arm?
We don't want his arm. We don't want any human left on this aspect. But that always raises the question as well as, why did the lever, the face on there? If they didn't want like human, your thing.
I know aesthetically it looks amazing. But if you were going to tour the full robot, you would just take the brain and the brain stem type thing. I don't know. Like, they don't really say it, but do you think it's like the one that to be like a human element when he's talking to like people?
Because he's like, because he's like a step, like he's obviously he's not a walking battle tank like Ed to a nine, like the one time to be like, because like this later on when he's like, would you like me to notify a rape crisis center? And so like he has like, no, but like he has it like he has that stuff programmed into him. And I think like, is that what they were going for? Like, he needs like a human touch.
But yeah, when I was a kid, I was like, why don't they just shoot him in the mouth? Like, do the things that kids think? Like, it's like, well, that would ruin the movie. He would catch the bullet in his teeth.
That's what Robocop would do. Well, he might be metal under there for all, you know, it might just be like like Bill and Ted too, where there's like Robocop under there. Oh, I don't know. Well, I was expecting something gruesome when he goes to take his visor and like, you're not like what's under here?
And I was like, what the fuck is under here? Like, he's like, you're not going to find like what's going on of the book. But yeah, I was I was very afraid. I've only watched this a couple of years ago.
Yeah. And the way this described Robocop as well, like, I love the description. I always said, I was going to be the ultimate machine. He's going to have the best reflexes, the most agile.
And I'd say, but also having like the experience of being like a tenure cop on the beat as well. So that was the whole premise of it. But when you see Robocop out in the streets, how the fuck would I think he was agile? I'm sorry.
I must say, I love the noise he makes when he walks. Yeah, it's so good. He's kind of like sticking to the floor as he's going to like, make sure he's stabilized. I love that.
What got me though is when he's doing his big job, how many people are arrested? No fucker in the car. No, he's just bouncing the next job. What do you do?
Just leave them there. Yep, that's a class scene though, Sammy. Like when none of the policemen have seen him, like they just see like the stuff being brought in, you know, like all the machinery and stuff, like his chair and things like that. And then like you just hear the footsteps and like everyone's like trying to look around, like just to see him.