A regular reader of the latest LGBT plus Tre, wait, where the hell are we? Fotest you, Glenn, who would these other retrobates? Oh, well, I know where we are. Let's try again.
Oh, nerds. A regular reader, wait, what are we talking about? Help me out, Sammy. Oh, hi everyone and welcome to the Naughty of North podcast.
It's a naughty podcast and it's hosted by Northern nerds. Ah, yeah, I'm one of your hosts, Sam. An army of their hosts, Paul. And we are infiltrated, hungaby weather today, you know.
And influ, changed, infiltrated, yes. Not by Boris and Scriman, but normally tell us. By the go global podcast. So yes, we have got some very special guests on tonight.
And as you've noticed, we don't have Graham or Saino, it's nor. We've got the velvet snatch. So welcome there, velvet snatch. Welcome.
And he's brought his friends from the go, the go global podcast as well. No, no, no, we're not friends. I'm not friends. You know, um, so that's a nice question as well.
Well, what's below associate? Where are we with this, do you? Ah, grind up a cup. Ah, yeah, welcome.
So we're just, you know. So yes, so you've got your grinder partners in crime here tonight. So that's what we're, that's the level we're stupid to do. So yes, we can only be this nasty to each other because we're very good friends.
And we've been doing the go-bog guys for a long time. So yes, so why don't you introduce yourselves? Tell us a little bit about yourselves, guys. So who wants to go first?
The pressure's on. What this happens to me is because I'm in the middle of the bottom. Yes. So I've been bottom, isn't it?
It's due. It's been a while. Been a while. But like, unlike yourself.
But that's all the dirty, but it's not doing anything else. Ah, these aren't secrets. It's public knowledge. I'm just talking about proofing.
I'll prove it. That's a really fun version tonight, guys. Oh, no, well, I was going to say we'll keep a PG, but that's all. We'll never keep a PG.
We'll have a PG. Yeah, they've been small first. This never happens when I was... Oh, yeah, I'm still on the one who pretty much set up global initially, but I can't do that alone.
Needs a bit of friends to help out. So I've got a lovely velvet engren by my side. Big, big drag fan, as you might guess, from me being on this podcast. I like to think of a little bit of a drag encyclopedia, but I've never done drag and I could not do the splits.
I don't have any singing talent. I'm not that funny. So we're not going to do that. We'll just be the other now, we're not.
You're basically candy news, don't you? Oh! I've got a lot of news already. I've got a lot of news already.
I've got a lot of news. Who doesn't love you? That's true. That's very true.
Oh, my box is a bit off. Oh, that sounds like something... I was like, I think that's my box off. I don't think Goodwill realises what an insult that is to a game.
We'll talk about your boxes. We'll book Goodwill back in the box in a minute there, so don't worry. Yes. So you started the Global Podcast, when about did you start?
Oh, quite some time ago. I think we're talking about four years ago now. Season one is actually... It was there anymore.
Gone. We're talking about pandemic. Season one was the last one when that started. You didn't think...
Brad wasn't with us originally, so he doesn't believe that season one existed when it did exist. I'm doing the Michelle massage of Season 3's the real season one. Oh, yeah. So we're talking about the rest of the game.
It's literally the kind of Santino already, obviously, that's fine. Yeah. Well, Santino's more like velvet because he's also... We're not going into it yet, but Santino's my favourite doesn't ever be on it.
And it kind of says something for later seasons, considering he didn't make it to season four. He was in three, wasn't he? He was in... He was in...
He was in little six? Wow. Yeah. He was in a little while.
Yeah. He was in a bit earlier. He was in a bit earlier. He was in episodes, yes.
He was definitely in six. Yes. So that was due. So Glenn, tell us a little bit about yourself there.
I am here against my will. I joined the podcast. I joined Girl about Euro 2, which we're going to now, I think. And it's just through like members of New Castle Revans, which is an LGBT rugby club.
And then I did an episode about LGBT sports with velvet, because she was ill at deer there. And I came back spontaneously for the Woody Coog episode. And then I just got kept and, yeah, now Stockholm Syndrome's in. And I continue to do podcasty drag stuff.
Oh, for sure. This is the thing, because we had you on the Woody Coog episode, and we're like, oh, they survived that. They were a fighter. We need this guy.
That was a long episode. That was like, that was exciting. I got three tall words in. I think the recording was like three or four hours or something nuts.
And then when we edited it, we're like, Glenn got a few sentences here. And then I thought... And literally didn't even get that, though. That was the thing.
So, like, see when we started this podcast, like, I didn't want to do it. I had no, like, all I wanted to do was talk about films and write about films, and communicate through online. But the podcast never appealed to us. It was never something I wanted to do.
And when Sami forces into it, because let's be honest, Sami's technically technical... No, I don't know. She's very challenged when it comes to computers. That's the best way I can call it.
Challenge. So she couldn't do it. So I was basically, I'll put it together and see how it works. And then, yeah, it'd come very, very addictive very, very quickly.
To the point now, we do three different shows. We're in a weekly now and Graham wanted to come on earlier for a Star Trek episode, I remember. But then I don't think he actually joined us till the community episode was it. Yeah, I think we could get it.
What is it? There was something where basically like, you invited me for the community episode. And then I was like, oh, I'd love to be... If you ever talk about Star Trek, I'd love to do that.
And I think you were like, oh, we've already done that. And I was like, oh, oh well, if we ever do another one, we could actually come on that. And then we had to make our own bloody show to get another one. So, yeah, let me...
That's how much we love him. That's how much we love him. To be fair though, when we've done the community episode as well, Graham quickly become a fan of favourites. Massive.
Where basically the chat actually was saying that we weren't going to watch anymore until Graham come back on. So, yeah. That's very important. That was actually the opposite.
I was actually thinking you were saying get rid of him. That's the fuck off. Well, yes. Well, yes.
So, Sammy, do you want to do this, Graham? I know we've had a little bit of discussion about it already. But like I said, we'll get the disclaimer out the way. And then we can...
We'll be more than just playing that. Fuck the door. Right. You could have said over the end, because it's that one for the end.
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We can all agree to disagree and fandom. So, let's keep it fun, keep it kind and keep the toxic behaviour out of nerdism. Very well said. Hey, yeah.
And just ask as well, to suppose the first episode I've never asked this question as well. So, Glenn, because with being a rugby player, what position did you do? Because I used to play rugby as well. Oh my gosh.
So, I used to be a flanger when I did union. And then last September, I actually moved into touch. All right. Now I'll just add very well, I'll play on touch, to be honest.
Yeah, it's good fun. So, yeah, I said, flanger when I was union and then now I just do touch and just go wherever I really. Cool. I was leaving South Open for jokes.
I used to be the hooker. So, I used to be in a middle school now. Of course, it is. I was the hooker.
But that was after the game and I didn't charge. Right. Very well played. So, yes.
That's probably the only sport I've ever had on the video. I'm probably not being a real person as well. So, that's always a good leading there. But yes.
So, we are here to talk about the runaway success that has become RuPaul's Drag Race. The little show that could, from season one where they used the Vaseline filler to season 15 on the main show. And we've just had, has it seen three or four of all stars have just finished? It's even eight of all stars.
Yeah. Oh, so I was just eight of Christ. Yeah. Are you talking there?
No. No. I was like, what's your case? Or your case?
Okay. Yes. Oh, right. Okay.
Got you. Okay. I'm in the room. And I'll ask the controversial question to start with.
Like I love the show, but with all the different interpretations and different versions of the show, we are getting out. Are we getting a little bit dragged out with Drag Race? Is it becoming the Marvel Universe Syndrome? Where are we getting too much too soon all the time?
I don't know if you guys feel like that or you're just enjoying all this. Not as much Marvel as there is Drag Race. When I think of Drag Race, I tend to think of that one of the Doctor Who episodes. It was, who was the one before Tenant Chris?
Hey, that's not Strikale. Eggleson. Yeah. No other one might have got that big space ship thing with all the big brothers on one floor in all the air.
We could sling someone floor and stuff like that. Yes. Just tend to think of that as like that will be Drag Race in a few years in more big building. And all the seasons are happening all that once.
And it's all you can watch. Just on rotation, just going round and round. Yes. So when you think about it, there's at least two seasons at every point as we go running out.
And that's my point as well. You don't get a message because when the season used to finish, used to get a little bit of time saying, oh, I'm looking forward to Drag Race coming back now. I'm not all who's going to be on. And now it's like, oh, Drag Race has finished.
All sorts of finished. Oh, Australian ones finished. I'll go down under one. It's terrible.
I watched last night. Fuck me. Sorry. I know it's not a Disney, but wow.
I never returned. I never watched. And I think it's season three. Lift just started.
Oh, no. No, do not watch season three episode one. That is. I haven't ever went back to down under that since season one.
That's why I was caught on Vince. That group hall wasn't even in the room. And the insistia is the best year. And I'm like, he was definitely not there.
We were laughing because it made me wife watching religiously. And they've done the, made the one songs, lip sync to the one songs that they did. And there was these performers who just looked terrified in the night. Not even getting the words, right?
And I thought, RuPaul's going to read them like fuck here. Like, if this was the American one, he would be dragging them in the room, turn them off instead of pussy up. This was basically, oh, you said, done well. You looked a bit scared.
And I was like, we're there. This doesn't feel like, and even Michelle facade was just like, yes. And it was just like, well, no, sorry. I like the idea that RuPaul wasn't even in the room.
Because it's just like, okay, this is roughly what they were wearing. And it's like, okay, I can all of this. Yeah. No, say season one of dad and under, like at least the first half of it, you'll not say RuPaul in the same clip.
Has any of the drag queens? Yes. Even when he goes into the whole room walk, he's never like videoed next to them as such, or it looks a little bit disjointed. Was that the one that was filmed during Covid?
Or before, around Covid as well though? Yeah, it wasn't just possible to get into Australia. It was the green screen. You can only just get into Australia, so he's probably not there, but it's the green screen.
RuPaul. It's going to be a bit of a mission. It's going to be further. RuPaul's going to make that money.
He's not, he's not, he's not, he's all about the money. He has made the money and more. Well, not strangely enough from time. I wonder if that's the thing.
Like, you can tell that he doesn't care about that season. Like, first and foremost, part of the season, he definitely wasn't there. It's AI, all good. He's pretty.
That's the one. But that's kind of what you see on the season three episode one. It's like, I'm going to be nice to these people, because the world's already going to be bad enough to them out. It's the season.
So let's just be careful. We're here. No, it was bad. I think it's recommendation for Drag Race is not the bother watching that episode.
No. I've not watched them. I dropped off a long time ago. I've watched the UK ones.
I actually have the World of Wonder app. So I can't go and jump in any time I want to, but I just choose not to. Hang on. You have the World of Wonder app and you don't watch Drag Race.
What else is that? I don't know. Oh, there is some interesting, investigating documentaries on their grid. Oh, OK.
There's not really. It's just a lot of Drag Race. Yeah. And also, if you've got spare time, there is the Miss Van G24.
I was a love season. It's the biggest trash TV ever. And I just think it's brilliant. Wow.
So yeah, it's Miss Van G having a deer and shore for 22 hours in a villa in every hour. She has to get rid of one of the guys. And then they have like, I'm coming and stuff like that to help interview and decide who to get rid of. It's just like, oh, I'll rub a little bit.
I'm thinking of wow. Oh, wow. And then like, at one point, one of them gets really wrong and then goes for a nap. And she's like, nobody can go to sleep yet.
And then she finds out you could be going for a nap. So she kicks them out of the house. But it's just, it's just so trashy. It's really like, I love a rubbish reality show.
And that just kicked on the boxes. It was dang-worthy. But that's the thing, when it comes to trashy, let's be honest, this show was brought up on like trash TV. Like, I think the first time I actually started watching it was around about season five or six, which one was the show and needle season.
Was that season four? Oh, sorry, a bit earlier. I just caught, because I think it was when it was starting on Netflix, and my wife was watching it. And it was one of them things, he walked in the room, well, what the fuck are you watching?
And she's like, oh, it's just like, I'm not going to describe it as an American top model with drag queens. And I thought that sounds awful. Just American top model was not a thing. But then as you sit in the room, because you're trying to be social and trying not run away from your wife.
And so she's watching the calf pain attention. But then you realize how bitchy and how horrible they were to each other in early seasons as well. And I was like, this is actually quite entertaining. And but then you get the different tasks and the amount of work and effort that goes in, it kind of brings you in.
And when you say you snatch games as well, snatch games can be some of the funniest shit you've ever seen. Or it can be some of the fucking worst. So that was my introduction into dragreas. Then I went back and watched like, I'll go back and watch it from season one.
I did not know what the fuck I was watching in season one compared to what my attention season four. I'm going to say that. No, I absolutely love season one. You have Nina Flowers in there for Foxy.
You've got Tammy Brown, you've got Anjina, that Viva glam campaign that they did had me in fucking tears. I think season one has some of the strongest players in it. But I didn't start watching until season three. My sister's being watching this episode since I was on channel four, back at like two o'clock in the morning.
And she was constantly at us. You've got to watch it. So eventually season three came around. And I was like, that's it.
I'm hooked. Absolutely hooked. Went back, watched one and two. Cracked my eyes out.
It was it became therapy for us. Because I was having a really shitty day. I just looked at all the pretty colors and all the makeup. And I was like, oh, it's actually what?
It's actually what? It's the color that's either one. I'm sorry, but it's not as bad as what you mean. It's terrible filter.
But sorry, but Nina, if I was just a little later room. That's beautiful. I don't think that had to come in place when it come to season one, though, because it was just a bit all over the place. You didn't know what was going on from week to week.
And how the crown, the winner, you just didn't know. Like if you watched first, it's fine. It makes sense. But if you watched like from season two, three, four, and go back to one, like the format just doesn't feel right.
Yeah. I kind of feel that like season four was when it found its footing. Like season four was when it became a phenomenon. And it basically just went, hey, keep this the same.
And they did that for like six or seven seasons. And it was like must have TV. And season three was brilliant, but seasons one and two were a bit like, they're not, you know, like you say, they haven't quite found the format yet. But you know, but I was struggling because I really wanted to rewatch season one just to get like a focus on it.
You just can't. Like, I think you need to subscribe to World of Wonder to watch that one. Yeah. I can watch it.
Don't be for your sick. It's really hard to find things. See? One of these is when I first watched Drag Race, it was season six and I actually got given it on a hot like wherever you find copy down in my hard drive.
Oh my God. And then I watched season six and he was like, okay, I'll give you the rest. And then he was like, what's on my laptop? So I was like, get weird drug.
It's like, this is what we're going to tease you with. If you like it, we'll give you more, I think. Then the dealer gets you the next USP. And they're like, you want this?
No, I was like, how does this you, Tom and work? Yeah. How about not get my clients? My kids.
But we see them one. You had one of the best eliminations. Is it when Chanel, the Chanel? Oh, yeah.
When she eliminated herself, that was amazing. When the wig came off at Chews, I got it. It actually jumped and it came. It was like a Medusa, I can still picture it today.
Medusa style, this head piece and she jumped. And it comes, oh, that honestly, that was TV. So what about you, Stu? What was your gateway to the drug?
So my gateway, it wasn't initially drug risk. It was sort of going out on the sort of case, and I was going to discover who I was and then finding out that people dress up in drag. Because that was a very sheltered, little queer kid. So I live in a bit of nowhere.
There was none of that. Like there's a joke about being the only gay in the village, but that's how it felt. And then I wouldn't pick it, stick it on, see Alaska Thunderfook. Right.
I didn't have a clue who it was. So I googled it and was like, oh, what is this? What is drug risk? So I actually started on season eight.
So I was a bit of a little bit warmer. I didn't watch season eight first, because I asked people who liked it what I should do first. And everyone said, start with three, and then go to four, and if you like three and four, go back. And I was like, right, okay.
So I watched three and three is that in between point of gritty and starting to get a budget. Yeah. So it's like, and it's the first time you crowned a good winner. So yes, it is.
It's like, all right, I can deal with this. I watched three and I watched four. And I was like, all right, yeah, I like this. I watched one.
I was like, I can tell why people said to watch the first. Good season. Yes, but if that's your first experience of it, you're probably not going to watch the other 79 seasons. Oh, bye bye.
I never did so. It brings one to my fear. It's my favorite hopes saying, eliminating themselves. Graham did that in a moment.
I've done it in real drag competitions as well. If we remember vampas tits. I kicked myself out of the competition and then they brought me back. So I was like, okay, we'll reveal.
And I can't get there. Shandra just leave on the turn. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, God.
That's like, probably about Penny that just won't go with. Well, um, I thought she shouldn't have been anywhere near the. She should go. Like me at the right.
She got better. I think it was all stars when she actually was robbed. And she actually shot. Oh, she was absolutely robbed in that season.
100%. But I still loved that. I think the thing is, I love Shandra. And I think the problem is that she's always been eliminated when there are far worse people there.
Like, I don't think she's ever gone at the time she should have gone. But whether she's a winner in her, like, original series or even the one after, not quite sure. But it's the fact of going, no, there were other options. Yeah.
That willam, like, the Nita bring Willam back. Bring Willam back, please. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. I can't know with, like, say how he's here about afterwards. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. I can't remember. He would. I can't remember.
I can't remember. I can't remember. I can't remember. I can't remember.
I can't remember. There was an article in our gear times where they just said, all I'm going to tell you is, I've never been asked back. Right. And that's it.
Like, people keep asking if they're coming back. They're like, they've never asked me. Right. Well, who's I speaking to?
I can't remember if it was actually Willam themselves, but it's like, I speak to someone about this. And they were like, they will never have Willam back. Like, RuPaul will never ask Willam back. Because it's such a huge interest.
Great TV. But wow, that's such a fucking to the show. The way it's been. Massively.
Have you ever heard Alaska in Willam's podcast? No. Oh, it's fucking good. So fucking good.
That's pretty. Yeah. I really, the ones I've listened to, it's really good. I've just, I could listen to Alaska, even in that voice, that you kind of like, draws on.
I can still listen to that voice. That's the thing. I can't do it. I'm not a particular fan of Alaska.
And the voice is just, oh my god. It's like, it's like when your dad is typing, like on the computer with one finger, and he just like, oh, I've been told. Alaska, is the reason why the playback speed option was added on YouTube, just so that you can get to a sentence before a fucking advert. I think with Alaska, well, I think that with me, Sheila herself down, near the end of this, was it all stars?
Or was it going to flip it out? Yeah. It's a pity fit and start saying. I'll give you a thousand dollars.
I'll give you a thousand dollars if you don't want to vote. I was like, oh, I'll have to play the fucking game. You've been playing the game for long. Just because you've had one bad round, don't fucking start.
I thought it was, that's what I think pissing off with Alaska like the last time I saw her vote. The thing is though, she fucking owned it at the reunion part. Like she really owned that part. Like that bit that she did.
So I kind of like had a bit of respect for the fact that she was like, yeah, fucking do it again. I guess what I would as well. Exactly. She didn't get eliminated.
No. That's not bad. But she'll always be a period. But when it comes to it.
It was Rob. When we come to this, I was sure as well. We like to do Top Five. So sorry to throw you some of the buzzer.
I'm not doing it. Yes. That's pretty early. We normally do that towards the end.
But I'm going to ask you, it's for your Top Five. You might need to be specific though, because drag queens is in US ones, UK ones, international ones. It's just to be the top five. Let's stick to the top five US drag queens.
And also, also are we just talking about their time on drag race? Because obviously with the Girl Global Hotgast, we've spoken and interviewed a lot of them. We've been to drag on, we've met them. So are we talking about just how they appeared on the show?
Or are we meaning in general? No, just how they appeared on the show. Right on the show. But then you are breaking into categories.
They're going too far. You're going to be on. Just don't let them wear. It's all you've been on the show.
When they appear on the show, we hate to them. But we were like, oh, they're crap. And then meeting them in person or seeing them in performing person. And you're like, you are way better than television gaming.
You know, like, show you. That's always the problem with editing, though, as well. That's always the thing. And they do always clear on that throughout the show.
Because I like to go on Twitter now after that. So this one, this one, this one. This is how we're not pretty happy. Who are we speaking to is to you, where they literally all blend, where they were like, oh, I've got a good edit.
I really wasn't expecting that. I think it was a pixie. Yes, pixie. Like, oh, I expected them to make me look like shit.
But not that I don't want not listen to your podcast, but who has been your favorite drag queen that you've had on? A favorite that I got. Oh my god, that was amazing. Right.
Yeah. Who's sorry? By a buddy from season 14. Oh, right.
It's just her and Karpetov. I remember. I remember, I remember, I remember, I remember, I remember, tell me about Karpetov. He said he had a lot of fun with that.
Well, I thought we were lucky with our podcast, where we haven't had. I don't think we've had a guest, where we've just gone. Oh, that was awesome. There were some of them.
We were like, that was a struggle, but then you enjoyed it. But we like, with the queens and stuff, we've never had one where we're like, Oh god, they're awful. Oh, that's so boring. You know, and it's a bit.
Oh, oh, in a minute. My drag race one, but a drag race adjacent one, Jasmine Rice, don't really care if she watches others since she probably won. That was the worst podcast I've ever recorded. She was so fucking dull.
Right. Like, every question had a really boring answer. I was really excited because she got a good reputation. And obviously she's, if you know a lot about like drag race adjacent queens, very big, very well-known.
So I'm like, yeah, it's cool. What a great guest to have. I could have just ended the podcast. I'd have to have an idea.
I don't care what this graphic. The worst thing about that ever sits to you, which makes me very glad that our format is just audio. We don't do what we, what you do here, where like literally we were just like, Oh, so, you know, tell us a bit more about candy news because you know them as a, like a personal friend kind of thing. And then they were like, you know, what was it they said?
They were just like, Oh, candy is exactly how you see her on screen. There's absolutely nothing, no pretension whatsoever. Exactly how you see her is how she is in real life. And we were like, Oh, we were kind of hoping that wasn't the case.
But, you know, like, it was so awkward. I think we've been quite lucky as well though with that was like, most of the times, like every type of conversation we can either lead it or we've had great personalities on. It's never really felt like a struggle touch or yet. There's only been one episode we had a, because we always trying to do it live.
We had to take it down for reasons and I'm putting it up. It was a Christmas episode. It was the day before Christmas scenes, yes. And everything went wrong.
So we got on, we've got to take a one turn. Yes. And so we got on, like, say the shores and stuff now. As you said, it's 15 seasons of it have gone.
So what has been your favorite seasons, like a standout season? Because it's going to be hard to get like a favorite season out the mall. What are your standouts? So go, Graham.
Willums exit in three. Right. Yeah. Or season four.
No, it's Paul. Yeah. All of six. All of six.
Yeah. Great. All of six. I actually really like seven.
Sorry to throw that one in there. No, it doesn't get a lot of love, but a little bit of a chachiki. I love a cache of Davis. Kind of got a thing between James and so, yeah, I actually like seven.
I don't think it's as bad as what people make out. That's been true in Paul's say, if that's season for me. Oh man. Oh, Paul and Miss Fiam's lip sync is one of my favorites.
When they managed to flip each other at exactly the same time. I thought that was absolutely phenomenal. M four five, seven. Paul stand off with Ru as well.
No, I've got something on my face. I've got the balls to do that though as well. Yeah. That has to take like, I know there's pressure in the show and there's like, but you're standing in front of like Ru Paul and just giving down a tune and just basically that's us.
But I think Paul and Mr. respected her a little bit more after that as well. No, she did not. I listened to Paul on Hey Queen and no, no, not at all.
Wow. I thought I'd still go to the top of that season though. Oh god, I'll live in all. You could season.
That was really good. Oh, see, what was you? See 11 or so? No, it was it was 13.
Well, it was the same season as Candy, unfortunately. That's where I kind of lost off. I was getting to the point where it was like, it's the safe. If you, I can, but the start on the change a little bit to the beginning, but then eventually it was just formulate back into the same thing.
And I was like, I am a bit done here. Let's call it a day. It was the knee. I think it was the point where you could start seeing the strings.
You could start being like, this isn't as genuine as, you know, where basically the producers basically stepped in and said, let's create drama rather than just letting it happen. And like, I mean, because the candy news is top four in that one, aren't they? They come second. Well, you know, but they get to the top four, but just because of room letting them, like it's like, or the other things, it's like, oh, it's a top three.
And then they're like, no, we're going to put an extra person through and guess who it is? It's candy news. You're like, what the, like, I have never seen any. This is literally like someone getting a gold medal for winning a race, but they're sat in a wheelchair and someone was pushing them.
Like it just feels like that in every single thing they're in. And I'm sitting there like, this does not help. Like, you know, me engaged in this because I know that it doesn't matter who does well. You know, like, you know, it takes a little bit of the competition side of things.
But as you said, because normally you can tell what things that piss off certain judges and what will upset them and how they react. And as you said, Candy Muse has just been on the latest season of All-Stars. And Michelle Visage is notorious for going off at, if you're wearing a leotard every week. And I might be wrong in this, but I'll accept you.
I think probably out of all the episodes, it was probably one episode that she didn't do the runway in a, and it wasn't a fucking leotard. And she never got red ones. There was no fucking word said about it. I mean, I'm sorry, okay.
But in her original season, that alien look, okay? Oh, gosh. That alien looks, that's what, that's the drag equivalent of when a horse breaks its leg. And you need to take it back and shoot it.
Like, that's how I felt about it. And I was sitting there, like, oh, and she got to the top four, did she? You all right? Okay.
Well, cards out the window. I get so mean about this, I'm genuinely so mean, that's someone who genuinely loves drag. Seeing other people go home and letting just someone you like for an understandable reason get through. Yeah.
It's crazy. So which is why I'm so glad that Jimbo has won season eight. Cause like, that's a good question. Two weeks ago, fucking, that's like a year in the daytime.
But the worst thing about the window. But Handy actually got eliminated on her original season. They recalled her back. It's like, no, just let her go.
Let her go. Let her go. I'm like, what's I guys sees the monitor down under when asked someone got eliminated on three episodes later and bringing her back just because. Yeah.
And then didn't do any better than she did the first episode either. Like, can we just say that when she was not good in that season at all? I think Handy is the only person that he brought back mid season or late on season and actually do well. No, no, I didn't go out the same house.
I didn't go out the same house. But it is just nuts. Like, you know, because obviously we had like Joe Black in like a UK season two. Two wasn't it?
Two. It was. Yeah. It didn't do.
It was. It was. It was. It was.
You're like, oh, no, no, no. That was so sad. I was so expecting a lot from Joe. And I was, I was so, so sad.
But I love that fucking season so much. Oh, Sam, what's up there? The drama. The drama.
The drama. Oh my God. What was it? Um, Tia Kuffian.
The horror is like the rivalry going on. And horror with, um, sister, some sister. It's just a sister. That's it.
Thank you. You only had it. It's like, I couldn't quite show it. I was just making sure.
Um, and they're kind of little rivalry where clearly we're in the same costume as each of that. But oh my God, that series give us Tia's and oh, wow, I am so fucking happy for that. I love. It's incredible.
I mean, the UK one hits different, right? Yeah, massively. I think the UK one got the format perfect. If you look at it because it's the one where they integrated, um, like the backstage, the untucked into it as well.
Yeah. Yeah, you got to see all of that. And I think on the BBC, other than Daxia, no prize money and the blue paper badge. Shit, what a shit above them.