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And I'm a very warm red horse, Paul. And we are joined this evening for a special episode by a team called Task Grant. And with it being, like I said, Sammy's big birthday yet tomorrow, not big birthday. No, not quite, not quite.
Thank you also, she's getting there, guys. But she won the vote for this about month ago, that we have been trying to arrange to review the excess, but plans always kept in form through. So we are getting to talk about Sammy's favourite movie now. And we say someone's in the chat, and it's Kelly.
So it's not the local one, so it's Kelly. I lose. So yes, we've got the lovely Kelly to join us this evening. And yes, so we're going to talk about Smoky Scary Times.
So it should be very interesting to always hear. Smoky Scary Times, at six o'clock on a shoot this afternoon, while there's absolutely billions of hot outside. Perfect, so I'm going to talk. Absolutely.
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Very much so. And I think it's quite an important message, especially with everything that's going on at the moment. And there's a lot of toxicity and massiness out there, especially in the UK, shall we say? So that's the fun element to this.
But yes, I know this is one of Sam's favorite films. I know Grant loves this film. And I'm going to be a bit of advice. And because I've watched this film many of times, and I still don't hear it.
But I don't love the movie. I think I'm going to use a turn that's going to get probably gasp. I think it is very overrated. But we will have a discussion why I feel that.
But I know we don't talk about it here to dislike and all the nasty stuff. So I'll give the points that I do like about the movie when we're talking about it. But I'll throw it away to the two big fanboys for this movie. Just not with it.
Yeah. Where do you even start with this film? Probably when was the first time you watched it? Because I think that's a great starting point of where you are in your horror.
So when did you first watch your friends? The first time I watched The Exorcist was probably about 13, maybe 14, definitely early teens. And at that point, The Exorcist was still banned on the chess in the UK. So you couldn't get it.
You couldn't rent it. And long before the day is digital TV. So one of her friends, dads, uncles, whatever. I have a pirate copy of it.
So we got a whole set pirate copy. And it's like a lot of us that were at school together sat down and wanted to watch this infamous horror film that was banned and had this, that. And the other in it now I've read the book at this point as well. So I knew what was coming.
And I was like, I need to see all of this. This is the whole phrase. I think I was exactly the same. But I think I might have been a bit older, not because I didn't want to watch it or I was too scared to watch it.
Horror doesn't fit as I'm not put off. The only thing I put off is this goal. But I'm really not put off. I just think it was really hard to come by.
And I think I might have gotten it in the early 20s when music's on. You can remember the cardboard, cardboard covers. Yeah, they sent Princess Themes. Yeah, they kind of folded out and then card that it was cardboard.
But I had an A and a B side. I still don't know what's at the B side. Was it not the A and A? Because there was a version without the Spider Walk and a version with the Spider Walk.
Wasn't that when it first got released? Yeah, I believe so. I just don't think I ever flipped it over to find out. Yeah, mine was probably the same as Grant's a little bit.
Because as I said, this was one of the big video nasties when, like, the other two movies like this, Texas Jones, on Masculine, D'Olicula. That's basically you heard about what you never could see. And they were always discussed, especially, like, say, just coming from the 80s and to the early 90s when censorship was such a big topic and rife. And when it started releasing movies, I think, like, Orange was one of the first ones that released that was banned for, like, I don't think I've got a video or come out the cinema, but didn't get a home release.
No one doesn't think it is. And with that one came out, it kind of like opened the flood gates. And then the Exodus brought out Texas Jones, from Masculine, and stuff like this. So when we were at school and we talked about these type of films, that anticipation and that expectation kind of built up and you thought, this is going to be the most horrific movie we've ever seen.
And this is going to scare us to neck levels and win the day video. Because I was like, say, even then I was always about collecting and keeping like, say, getting the DVDs and stuff. So persuaded me parents and, right away, they did buy us it. And I was very young and I was so excited and got home that evening, didn't watch it during the day time.
I was like, right, I'm going to watch it at the nighttime, watching it. And I was like, wait for it to get scary. Wait for it to get scary. And I was like, oh, that looks pretty.
I probably didn't appreciate the cinematography as much. But then I did try and watch it here because I was joking and saying, I'm trying to like this movie. Oh, that's what it was. Couldn't make it out.
That was out of sight. Like, like, they're visually, like, say, especially for when it was shot like a time. The cinematography, like the angles and like, say the camera work was like a very head of its time, especially for our movie. And but again, again, not just like, throw it too much here.
It's a very choppy movie that kind of jumps from bit to bit, like, what stages without really telling you too much what's going on. Yeah, no, no transitional. Yeah, that was always like, I probably did jar is a little bit then, but again, it just kind of, I couldn't get the flow of the movie. And then like, they went and kicks off and gets interested in the last 15, 20 minutes.
It's over before even get started. That was always been my element. I think there's big shock values. Don't get as wrong.
There is elements that you think, oh, shit, that's really, really like, shotgun, scary. I wouldn't use the word. But I think the whole genre of the possession movies does struggle because there's not many great, like possession movies or exorcism movies. There was always fall away that I'd go to extreme or that don't keep the realism type there.
I know we're talking about horror movies and realism, but the certain things, there was one, like the exorcism of Emily Rose, that was greater to a point and that the end and gets ridiculous and so on. And I think it's a very hard genre to nails for the exorcist again. I'm no filmmaker. I'm not the thing that's just my opinion.
It's probably the one that I think gets more right than wrong. But it's just the choppiness of the film. This kind of like takes us out of enjoyment for it. But that's just my opinion.
Sorry. No, you don't have to apologize for your opinion. I get what you mean by possession films, even though repossessed is one of the greatest possession films of all time. And but I do get what you mean.
And do you know what? For a subject that these actually these things actually happen, like these, these exorcisms, whether it is real or not have a natural fact taken place. So how you can get something that is very real, sometimes very wrong. It's beyond me.
But I guess it's because when you do when you do in recession films or possession films, I should say, you are you are looking for the supernatural. Yeah. So they have to bring Emily Rose is a prime example of that because that is a girl with big mental health problems. But then it goes into the supernatural element.
And unfortunately, that's where it loses. Yeah. You can get involved with the girl who starts the mental health issues, who is clearly thinking they are possessed. But then when you see the actual the fact that she is, that's what it kind of loses.
Yet I don't get that in this film, though. No, no, that's why I think this film does get things right. So it doesn't go ridiculous to the degrees. This, but like I said, where it hits home, it's like the shock values.
I don't think for its time, there was probably some more shocking movie with how the contents and things actually come out. I know we got the most gross and like say torture porn mirror, but I say, having some young, young child, I'm curious if it's an across thing. Fuck me. Fuck me.
Why it's thrust enough to doctors is just like, like, I'm horrible. That scene just makes my skin crawl. And Kelly's like, absolutely right. It is the possession of a child that really gets you in this film because if you watching any other possession film, you're watching an adult author.
This is a little girl, a very sweet and you get to see the normal side of Reagan before it all it all kicks off. So it is really shocking. And I think when the player was a child actress as well. So I think that that audiences to see her do this is is shocking.
But what makes this film probably more special than me and probably the same reason why I love cycle as much is not so much the film itself. I love the film. I think it's absolutely it's a masterpiece of work, but it's the work that was behind it that I love the most, how this film was actually made and constructed and the techniques the director used and you know, the not special effects actual practical effects, the practicality of makeup of movement. It was just, it's just so amazing that that happened at that time because we it's now 2022 and we still we would see the shit out of it.
Yeah, definitely. Especially like to the head turn and say again, like say, rather than jumping from bits to bits. Yeah, I mean, I'm just like, I know what I said because I know I'm very patient, but I said always is what was the elements that you love about like, why do you call yourself a fan of this movie? If that makes sense.
It's I mean, it's really, really odd. Like what is said over the course of that because there's so much that kind of relates to like when Paul said that his first experience of the access isn't scary and I was the same. And I'm not going to be that guy except for maybe the next five minutes. Like I said, I've read the novel of the access system of every young age before I seen the film.
So I already had this obvious young teenagers imagination of everything that I was going to see. And given the fact that I am quite a creative guy, I've got a good imagination and all that kind of stuff. The stuff in the film didn't really wail to what I expected to see, haven't read it. So we did kind of we almost left our way through the access and but like what you mentioned about stuff like Emily Rosen some of the later accessism movies being more inclined towards mental health and that kind of thing is a big bit that gets missed from where the novel of the access was in 1971 and when the film was made in 1973, everything that Reagan goes through in the book has a logical explanation, even down to the adaptation and that kind of stuff to keep really in it back to both physical and mental disorders.
And I think it's where a lot of the modern accesses films have learned from what they did in the accesses that yes, of course you've got chopped down, you know, some of those things are absolutely grotesque. But they were aware of the fact that they needed to clash out more backstory because accesses originally a novel. Looking at it from the book perspective, you could have done it in three hours and made it more faithful. And what I was going to say there in relation to what Paul said with the choppiness, there's so much mist that they try to cram in there where really, really developed characters were pulled back from the leading roles that they had in the book.
But not pulled back so far that they were inconsequential. They kept trying to pin to these things that happened in great depth in the novel that never happened in the film. Merrins backstory is one. The friendship between Lieutenant Kindem and Damian Harris is massive in the book.
The book is called The Exorcist. It's not called The Possessed Little Girl. The film is The Possessed Little Girl. The book was The Exorcist.
It's the story of Damian Harris, not the story of Reagan. And they don't quite give Harris the platform to be what he was. And I think that's where the shopping list comes from. We've got shoe-horned the scene in so that people remember that they're friends.
And we've got a shoe-horned the scene. And we remember that Merrins did this and that and the other. And you're right. They don't get it quite right from a filmmaking perspective.
You're kind of a little bit tossed around with the story. I love that analogy though. Because you do say that you're getting thrown around. It's like, it did give us a bit of a headache earlier as well.
It's like, well, just go for a narrative of that thing. Because as I just said, they went from something wrong with Reagan, do tests. Or these tests didn't come out. Shredistling with it will do more in vists of tests with it.
Then for the scientists in turn around to him, she believes that she's possessed. So we recommend that you go through an exorcism because we believe that the exorcism with a believe in sort of it so fearfully that they'll have the opposite. That she'll believe that the exorcism works. I was like, what?
Yeah. Like what a real psychiatrist. Go down like that. Because even in the 70s, science and religions were quite competitive.
They wouldn't, they don't want to be able to all with each other as well. So for them, just to come out with that, like, because as I said, they kept on saying all the way, we've only seen 10 cases in the world. We've only seen five cases. They're like, they're starting narrowing it down.
Like, we've never seen this case before. Like, we're in a room with like 10 different psychologists and doctors and none of them have given answer. And the only response is, I've never thought of going down to the exorcism route. It was like, to me, that seemed like a quite a big job to get on board with.
And I think I, I think with that scene, I was, we all know what, how, what American medical history is being like when it comes down to the things that they can't explain, other things that they want to push away. I'm not to get really, I know it's fun with the exorcism, but they've still got, like, places in America where the, the thing that they can, pretty aware of the game. The other folks are trying to say, you know, try to, try to, to an easy way about, yeah, that's, that's what goes on in America today. So, yeah.
And we, I mean, for a short period of time in the 60s, probably even went into the 80s, just not from the company heard of, we did the same. We did exactly the same, but we used some of the most, but awful means of doing it. So it doesn't shock me that a psychiatrist would make that suggestion, given just what the medical profession was like at that time. And also in that scene, relive serial killer treats.
The doctor who was putting that in the, on the examination table is a real life serial killer. Well, that was the excess three. Nope, it's the excess one. It was the third one.
The headache. It's improving, but I'm absolutely sure it's the first time. I knew, I knew the one to see what I was mentioning, mind-honder, like, say the Netflix seal and the top right, like, it seems, makes it getting away with it. But I didn't know it was the excess one.
Sure, it's the excess one. I'm sure it, because I think I've watched, oh my God, probably a million documentaries about this and I'm sure the scene that they show is the one where she's being put on the table, when she, but you know what, it could be the excess three because don't do the same kind of tests. Is this your whole foot, at some point? I've seen the second, the third one.
No, exactly. The third one. So this is the second one was the hectic or something, I don't know. It's been a few.
The one's the hectic. That's what I've grown up. And then the third one is Legion, which is the... Yes.
This is the last thing I'm going to mention. Legion is... When she has this guy. The excess is two.
It's the best. Kelly's seen as the best one. Oh, he's the devil. He's pure evil.
I think I've been talking about something else there. The excess is three, is the direct sequel that William P that Blacky wrote. The excess is two doesn't exist in novel form, but the excess is three. Oh my God, I did not know that.
So there's an actual book. It's a book. Yeah, it's Legion by William P that Blacky and practicing it on my... I've literally in the last couple of weeks.
I've literally in the last couple of weeks just walked the excesses book along with Psycho as well. So they're in my to read list after I finished American books. Not in books, Charles. What trust me?
It is a book. No, I've got fully trust you Grant when it comes down to reading material. So I wouldn't. And I've 1989's an August copy of Razzle.
Was that the Donna issue? It was. It was. We've even born then.
I don't know. It's fine. Well, friends, it's OK. Yeah, apparently I'm right.
It's the guy who puts her on the scan. Is the is the real life serial killer. No, man. I'm not sure.
I'm not sure. I'm the whole conflict between religion and science there. I always thought of that as being like kind of the early understanding of what psychosomatic responses, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah.
You know, it's kind of you believe it so hard that you start to exhibit symptoms that it's early understanding of mental health because like 1970 while we still had a silence. You know what I mean? It was just in case of that woman's having a cerebral gas. It was just in case of some cocaine and what I wrote.
No, it's true. No, it's true. If we've got anything if they're like a ruff to talk me anything is how fucked up the silence where women back in the day. So totally.
If that was the case of my mindset, if it was like a scientific way of doing it, wouldn't this age it? They wouldn't actually say a border of priests and get an excess in a range. Would it just be like, OK, we'll get a few people like doctors to dress up as a person and do like a pretend one before. So that would have been my logical.
But then you don't get the great maximum. So I'm walking and do the whole power of Christ compels you. So you kind of miss out on all that. If you just get doctors to play a dress up, isn't it just like the realism part of it as well?
Like the priests coming into the house, the fact that he's he's talking in real terms. They're trying to trick the brain that this is, you know, to be felt. That's when the movie actually. OK, yes.
It's not in 49 German girl, wasn't she? Yeah, something like that. I think you're going to be again, probably taking the bits that kind of go up. That's going to make her some good story talent.
But that doesn't make a lot of sense. We've heard it. If it's American, it's not how we have a dean in there somewhere. There were so many references.
Oh, yeah. I love that blog, didn't I? You know that beginning of it, I always this bit really confused the life out of me when the fine to do that. What reference does that have to recon herself?
Like the bizarre devil, I don't get what the significance is a find in that. I've found one. I might be in the book, but yeah. When the movie.
Sorry. Sorry, you got you got. I was just going to say because in the movie, I think it was just like we have getting like an introduction to the maximum sounds character and like say he was in doing a dig and find like a do like entity. Yeah.
I don't think it was ever hinted that I was for those in the in the in the movie because the reference how we got possessed was actually the way to go. And then happened how he was involved. So I don't know if that was like, I mean, but to me it was just a vehicle to introduce it to the price. Right.
I just never ever understood the beginning of that. And because I think brain dead beforehand, it always reminded us of the opening of brain dead with the monkeys. Like, is that in reference to that? I'm talking about the monkeys had an explanation.
It's what brought the disease, but I never really understood the reason behind seeing him get pizzouser because if my memory serves as right, you don't see it again. No, but I've been interested because I've never read the book. I'll be honest with grandpa Scott and he's like, I know come off there. That's okay.
It goes back again to what you said about the choppiness and the bits that they decided to bring forward. There was a lot of backstory in relation to Father Merrin, my son, I was director and we've seen the pre calls to the exorcist, you know, the two of them and the boys got. Dominion and the beginning of something that was called. Yeah, it's like, I don't feel like I've had it all.
I mean, basically, they are an expansion of Merrin's backstory that gets established in the book. Again, the book's not called the possessed little girl. Merrin had performed an exorcism on a child in Africa, which is why he is brought in to do this exorcism is because he's one of the few living members of the church that has experienced in actually performing an exorcism. So with the divvignon in the beginning and whatever it is, they tried to expand out.
Merrin's backstory, almost the trying and make the exorcist make more sense because in the book, they elaborate white evicts on Merrin having exercised this kid in Africa in the, I think it's the forties, you know, the, it's very much the demon is pursuing the priest. It's not right. It's just like, Reagan for the sake of it, that demon is there to haunt Merrin. Yeah.
I think that impression towards the end of the film, when he's, because it's almost like it's kind of personal thing, but they don't really allow it. And if they did elaborate on it, wow, I feel like I'm shitting over all of my favourite film and I don't want you to. No, it's interesting to have this type of conversation and not pick it apart, but see the different elements or work. Yeah.
I think, but there is a thrower line when the two priests are discussing who they want to get to mention Merrin and they've got to go all as in Iraq and he says, no, he got back a few weeks off, he wants to go just as Reagan got possessed. So that's kind of like, you have to really reach and go out there to get the connection, but I didn't get that when I was younger. But we've got it to do here just because they were sitting in the office having that conversation about, oh, who we want to get to do it? Oh, Merrin's back about Disney.
So in essence, if he's come back to the United States and with Reagan doing the wage, what I'm reaching to try and get a connection. Yeah, because if you have grandpa mentioned it, and if nobody had to read the book, are you going to make that two and two connection that he's back and then this position happens around the same time? But there is a bit towards it. Like it is a personal attack, but I always see it more on Damien's side than on Merrin's side.
Amy, why are you sad? But yeah, I obviously on his side more than Merrin's side. And in fact, that doesn't sound like I really need to read the book. No, that's interesting because the way I raised nothing to the attacks him more is because his fear for shame.
That's why he left on the line on my brace. I'm going to attack him. He's the one that's got the, like, he's the younger priest. He's the one that potentially could like take the ex, ex, and I don't think I'm like, super zoomable, Reagan, Captain Howdy, whoever, like, Jim Bob and like his body's made, but Bobby, who's that's in Reagan at the time was worried about Merrin?
Because they say when they will have to go on, we didn't see it. So yeah, that's the way. But I think when he's when makes a father, and realize that he's facing the shape and that's why he kept on attacking and latching on and using elements like to do that. That was always interesting.
That's when the film got really interesting. I could have watched a lot more of the film from just the two of them in that room. Like not just battling, but having conversations and like, say, like, father, Merrin, and didn't even get in that connection because honestly, when they were together, it was quite helpful. It was quite interesting.
That was like, it was kind of like, take the way a little bit too early for me. No, I would like to have seen more of that room experience because it's almost like the demon knows it. Yes, he obviously know them, but it's like they know him as well, or even Merrin knows him. And it's like, it's like three minutes just in a room together having an argument, over having a few drinks apart from one of those green shit all over the place.
But it is such a good, like powerful, powerful moment that bit. And the the beginning part, and in all honesty with that mom and everything, the noise that she's out of us, I hate a man's reactions to half the stuff as screaming does me head in. However, when you realize why she's screaming, then it makes more sense because that woman was in a lot of pain. When she got flung from one side of the room to the other and the wardrobe hitter, it almost broke her back.
Yeah. And she still continued on. So it kind of makes sense as to why I think Grant's having some doggy shoes. He looks so angry.
Don't look angry, Grant. He's only having a little wonder around that. That's fine. I'm not going to worry.
I'm just laughing because Bazoo is also the top left corner staring at Grant quite scarily. So she looked on the left side. And she looked quite scarily. So she looked on the left side.
But then for us, the proper tik to tik to tik. The possession is in, like this is ongoing. So it was a lot of suction. I generally don't think that the cotton version I first saw had that line.
And I think I watched a very cut down version of the, I think my first viewing was really watered down. So I didn't revisit it for a really long time until about about 10 years ago. And I watched it. I'm not lying.
I watched every Halloween. Every Halloween I watched it. Even when I got married on Halloween, I watched it at midnight the night before. So as soon as it hit the 31st, I put it on because it wasn't, it's a part of me Halloween routine.
It is an interesting character. I think the movie's not got very many likable characters. I think it's easy to see it. Like all of them has the flaws and all of them has like, say the things that you do.
Like, who was your favorite character in this? I think it's always an interesting one to look at. I think I'll first, uh, I think there is a lot more to them that I'm excited to explore now after Grant's talked about the book. He always, Max van Saden is just a favorite of mine anyway.
And I'm really sorry if I'm not pronouncing his name, he's surname, right? But he's always been a favorite of mine. I generally thought that man was that old when I first saw him. And then when I saw him in Star Wars, I was like, hold on a minute.
And that's some really good make-up. But yeah, I'm just, I'm a huge, huge fan of him. So I was, I gravitated to his character. But I was interested in his character as well.
He was probably the more interesting out of the lot of them because like I said, the beginning bit within Finding Pizzouza confused the shade out of us. I want to know more about that. The fact that he was experienced yet, we can only know that by the way he acted. I don't think it's even mentioned that he's done other exorcisms.
If he did, I've missed it and I'm sorry. And I just, it's just an interesting, interesting person. Go over to your grant. My favorite is Damien Carson.
You know, very much what you were saying about Shaken Faith and Nick Boner. Don't worry. Don't worry. We're not all the rest of it.
I think it was pretty quite well in the film. And like I said, I love, I love that vulnerability that he has. You're talking about seeing a really heavy, heavy edit, a down version of it and the stairwell scene with him and Merrin where they take a break from the exorcism and they go on sales. But remember, I wasn't concluded in the original cinematic release.
It was something that was added. That's a little bit more interesting. Much seriously, despite the boxing and what I mean, that bit where Merrin basically kind of goes, essentially, you can't be in there unless you saw believe in God, no, so put up in the break. Obviously it's far more beautifully set than that, but that is the essence of seeing.
And there's a change in Carras at that point and becomes not strong but determined. I really like him as a character. I love this character in the thing I'm not going to mention anymore, but I really like the way that he was portrayed in the movie as well. I can't remember the actor's name, but they hit the nail on the head with him.
The reed is. Oh, brilliant. Mine's a little bit off-field, the place inspector. I thought he was just entertaining when he was on and some of these lines are some of the best lines in the movie.
I ask him about like, what you think his wife doesn't like all the same movies? And the priest had a decent bando with him as well. And just how he wanted to photograph from Regan's mother, because she was quite a famous superstar and how he pretended that he was where he's daughter and stuff like that. That playfulness, I think, added a little bit of light to the movie, which is like, totally very, very dark and very, like, adding that little element.
And I was happy that the director got killed as well when he was being an asshole, calling the mother of all the Nazi jokes and stuff like that. I was like, I was cheering a little bit when he got the wrong out the window. I think he did actually die, not long after that film came out as well. Oh, well.
And he was like, you know how to always have this, oh, it's a cursed movie. Yes. I think his death, because it was pretty quickly after the films released, he died in real life. Oh my god, it's cursed.
No, he probably was just old and you might be poo-ly, not cursed. That's interesting what we can talk about the movie as well, because any list I'd do is come down, like, when people say, oh, movie sets were cursed, and all the talk about the big ones like Superman, um, the movie. Yeah, Superman, like, everything bad happened to everyone in the Superman movies. Oh my god, you hadn't even think about that.
Sorry. Sorry. Yeah, the actress in the play, they always lay in the middle of the sign for a little bit as well. So, um, but yeah.
I'm seeing the family guy, I'm sorry. But, uh, like, see, with this, it always mentions the curse, because we're talking about, like, all the problems that they had on set and stuff, like, people die and accents happen. Um, I know that did, uh, on Shira, like, the cursed movies are full, like, documentary about, like, see, of the exorcist out there as well. Yeah, Shira has, Shira has a curse, which is released curse movies too, um, the second series of it.
It's an interesting one, but it's kind of boring or gross, um, because you feel like you've heard this all before, and there's nothing really new brought to it. Um, I don't remember, apart from that guy dying, I don't remember anything cursed on it. I think what William free is a freaking, am I saying that right? He's the director.
Yeah. And I think he brought more on it than anything else in his direct and approach and how he treated people and how he was the temperature in the room for the film, the final scene is like, below, below, below, below, below, for reason. Then people with a long borderline hypothermia, um, he would use guns in order to get reactions out of people. That's more interesting to me than curses on that film set for some reason.
Like the pull the case one, yeah, that's like, that is dead interesting. But the exorcist, just, um, I don't know. Well, it's more towards the subject matter as well, but I think it helps sell the movie as well. And didn't, like, say, to come out with that whole Martin campaign, like, say, which basically, uh, like, say, the Blair Witch took, like, I took a noreps on and ran with, cruisily.
Um, I had reports that people were passing out in the cinema and people were, like, like, bad things were happening since the pro jumped on that bang wagon and went with it to try and sell the movie. But yeah, like I said, I can probably appreciate it a bit more now. I still don't, I wouldn't say that like I said, a movie that I would go to watch, but visually it was, as I said earlier, it was very ahead of its time, like, like the close-up shots of Reagan when she was like, looking in her eyes and like using, like, practically, like, like, I said, me in the room called it so you can see a breath coming on and all them different elements kind of like, I mean, except I can see why it got such a clean, because it wasn't nominated for a certain awards as well, or was that, because I don't know if it was Nia. I'm not sure it might have maybe visual effects.
Um, are you checking brand? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Um, just the lady who did Reagan's voice as well.
Sorry, I don't know if I'm saying it right, Reagan or Reagan. Don't worry, stop staring. But you don't want to see favorite film and people who pull you apart for not being able to say anything right? Even if they pull you apart, go to it.
Go to it. Go to it. It's like a self-apart. Well, wouldn't she love to see too much?
There's only funds. Hey! Um, when the actress who did her voice, obviously, the devil's voice really committed to that role, she would drink raw eggs, she smoked a million cigarettes, she drank whiskey just to create that, and she still do this day. Has issues with her voice just for that film.
That is she a commitment. And she was a voice actress. She messed it all up for just that one role. But by God, does it friggin work?
Definitely. It's one of the movies that we'll live on for the set-paces. It just stands up with a lot of different things. As Grant said, your mother sucks, and hells.
Everyone does call this movie as well. It's probably one of the most core horror movies that that was probably made. You don't really do lines in Halloween because it's not any big big big big. No, I mean, there's the boogeyman one.
Do you believe in the boogeyman? But I love then, what is the spoof? Is it Scary Movie 2 where he goes, your mother done sucks and hell or something? I love the parodies that come out of this film as well.
It is one of the most spoof movies out there. As I mentioned, Reapers Nest, which we'll probably talk about again in the top five spoof movies. Yeah. That was got planned.
Yes, absolutely. Because it's one of the best. There's a lot of good things. I know one knows something they call about it as well, and this is probably a spookier.
She doesn't like this movie either. No, it doesn't like this movie. No, she's not a fan of The Exorcist. Probably the same reason why I say I am.
Because everyone, for our youth and even from now, still says that Exorcist is one of the scariest, or one of the better horror movies out there. I think set pieces, I agree, are certain degrees. There's certain bits where certain scenes that you watch that will be imprinted in your memory, and you'll never forget. When you grab some of the space and put it between the legs and the sides, lick me, lick me and stuff like that.
It didn't even use us like a stunt double or an extra. It was horrific that you did that. But you've got to applaud it in the same way that it's a well done to go and stuff like for my alpha realism title. Everything that you see Linda Blair do on screen, she actually did.
She was flung around on the bed. She was strapped to it for a very long time. She said the words, because obviously the actors need to hear the words in order to react to them, and their voice over is put on afterwards. She said the words.
She did not know what she was saying. She did do a lot of hard work on that film. It's just such a shame that she fucking hates it now, that she won't talk about it anymore. That's the other stuff she's made a career out of.
It's like, say the big parts and extras. She won't admit that though. That's all her. That's not because of the excesses.
That's all her. And the Blair hates the excesses. She won't even sign anything that says that has any resemblance to the movie whatsoever. She'll sign her sweet dreams, which is Freddie Fruhger.
Yeah. She's really even on it. She hands out a piece of paper to people who go to her signing and says, please don't get too much. She does it all for charity, which, god bless her.
She does it for a dog charity, but she has a list of all of our films. To be fair though, would you if you have that type of experience and how to think about it, like, if you watched back and think, shit, I had to do that. That's not like it. I don't know, because you don't see Jamie Lee Curtis like that.
Do we fail or Jamie Lee Curtis has never got a bag of money? I'm not going to say it. I can't face him, but then across. True.
That's true. But Jamie Lee did audition for the role. Yeah. I'm glad in the way Jamie didn't go.
Because I can say when we got Halloween, trade and play, and stuff, we might not have got them type of elements if she was Reagan in the Exorcist. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very happy with the customer range.
She is, it's the transition from lovely little girl to fucking hell. What's that on the bed? But that's the head that they use to do the turn. That was part of a doll that obviously put in that place to do the head switch and then obviously change back to her as soon as the camera's back on her face.
That doll was taken around New York City in a taxi and just left there and left to run around New York City and it would do the turn on command. And they wanted to get true reactions out to people of what this creature done. My god, dang her. Yeah, she's been passing me feet.
So she's now above. Stop like this. Never. So yeah, that doll had a very impactful impact on the New York City people.
I remember the story, yeah, because as you said, it just drove around in the taxi to see what people's reactions as they head to step and spin around and run around. It did. It was slimer too, you know. It had a real life slimer.
That's slimer for all that looks translucent. It was actually full size slimer in the putt of a taxi cabin shift them off around New York to see how people reacted to. I've got a good segue there guys to go back to what Paul said about the accolades because I looked them up so a little bit about accolade information about the Exorcist. It was the first horror film ever to be nominated for an Oscar for Best Picture.
For one, yes. One, two Oscars. The best screenplay from another medium for which the author wouldn't be a black guy. And in relation to that doll, the cripplingly undolem of it, a sound from obviously Mike Allfield, is it got Best Sand?
Right. Such as that me, the lady who did the voice got any recognition for that. Are we loving more? It's more to do with the sound effects and all that kind of stuff.
You know when she spins her head around 360. The person that went into the sound effects, it's some of the most bizarre stuff that you would ever know in order to get the sound effects. The sound effect for her head turn around in the Verte Brake track was the guy who lims wallet out from his back pocket, went right up to the microphone and twisted this all the leather wallet. So went crack, crack, crack, crack, crack.
And that's the sound that you get for the head turn. And he came in with all sorts of weird and wonderful props and devices and complete improvisations on the things that he had in order to be able to capture all of the sound effects that you get in that movie. And I say it got the Oscar for Best Sand. Oh, that's awesome.
That sound does play a massive part in horror. Like Texas Chainsamas was a prime example of that because there's not a lot of books and gore in Texas Chainsamas. I said about there is is a lot of noise. That's great.
It's like a ton of salt on you. It's tashing that very much. It's not a hammer scene when you hit some of the hammer and you hear he's feet shaken. Oh, yeah.
Don't like that. No, but I was going back to the sound element. Again, another thing I did actually love about the movie was when Caris has gone back and listened back to the tape recordings of everything at Reagan's like all the voice changes and all the different languages. And when he's in like, that's not a language.
And the guy, I don't know what if he's like, he's not a priest, but he was kind of like just might be in a janitor or a swing in the school. And this is it is the thing. He goes, what are you talking about? And he goes, that's knowing which I know when he goes to backwards.
And he plays backwards and you can hear what like what the same and stuff is like, kill her, she's mine and stuff like that. It was just like them little tricks and little influences because he was looking for Latin and so on. He was looking for that. He was looking for that.
He was looking for that. He was looking for that. He was looking for that. That was always like that.
They've got past only tests before they can do the exorcism and stuff like that. So which you do find out a lot of these days with other movies like Amity Vill horror. And what was it like a conjuring and stuff like that? When the scene look at it, I was like, get enough evidence to prove that an exorcist is warranted.
Which as you said, it still practices and still goes on today with a lot of the exeres. But I can say the rules for this one was pretty similar. It was like, most of the language, like a dead language. And I've gotten the other one now, but it was like, like physically manifest its station.
And then when he goes in the room, he tries to trick, he throws like the fake holy water on and reacts. It's like, well, in his head is like putting it on. It's important too much. But then she's like letting little hints out saying, or your mother's with us and stuff like that.
And he's going to do a rig and know about me mother. I'm going to go, no. Like, clever little bits. Like, say very, very intuitive little elements.
And like, like, like, like, like bread comes tight away to see a fall of the journey. I just wish, as I was going to take one of that, I wasn't like as chopped up. But as I said, if you were to do like as fearful as it possibly was, like a three hour movie, which probably will be fine these days, because I'm not bothered by like, like, saying, watch a four hour film. Yeah.
But back then, if anything was over 90 minutes or closer to hours, that was like, say, a bull feature length and above, like, say what they would disdain as acceptable to watch in this cinema. Oh, I totally agree. We could, I don't want to see a remake of it. No.
Even though I believe something's happening with it. And I am slightly intrigued, but I believe that I believe that TV show was, but I've not watched it, but I've had a lot of people think about it. Oh, I watched it. And I didn't watch the last episode, because once you get to one of the pinnacle moments, and you're like, no, okay, I watch all this to get to there.
And now I'm like, all right, then I'm not interested anymore. And turn it off. I haven't watched the second series. I believe it's the second series.
And it's okay. It's okay. Both with any horror movie, like when the IP, they want to make money out of the IP, especially with something as legendary as else, the exes. So again, they'll keep on trying.
You never know what they might do it, right? I remember, I can say there was an exes movie. I watched not the exes, but like a film about exes and onshada. I watched Jim and knocked down.
I can't, like I've tried looking for the name of it and I can't, but was basically about like live streaming and how the devil, or like a demon to all the person was in the live streaming. And it was done with a shoe-sting budget, but it was done really well. And it was done really well. And it was really entertaining to watch.
I can't remember that. I'm not even sure. I love that. It's all done through Zoom, isn't it?
Like it's almost like a Zoom effect, but it's people online. I've done it. I've seen the show. We could pull that off.
We could definitely pull that off. It's a good option. For some people. I love this film.
I love it. I don't know. It's just an easy watch for me. It really is.
I can never say it. I can never say it. It's an easy watch. I do find it is an easy watch, but I can't, when was it?
It was a couple of years ago I was sitting watching it. And this time I didn't have me falling in my hand or I wasn't, you know, distracted about it. And I just sat and watched it. And fuck it.
The pizzoo's a devil kept popping up. The place I've never seen it before. And I screamed the house down. Anthony thought I'd been hurt.
I was like, no, no. The devil just showed up on the cougar. I've never seen that before. Like I was losing me mind over.
Like the fact that I've never seen the devil in the fucking oven before. No, that was always the thing. Because as I said, when it came out originally, it was called debates. There was loads of stuff called outs.
Like now when you watch it, it's almost like trying to, like there's a drinking game in there. You can play a spot with a pizzooza. Every time they take off something, a little dark shadow. Like I said, I'm trying to do it now with it on the stream.
So every time he pops up and makes the grand looks on him. It's cool. I mean, Anthony watched a few years ago and he genuinely barely left throughout all of it, especially when a mum slaps her. He could not stop laughing at the fact that she slapped a child.
He thought it was so funny. And he just, there was other elements in it as well. Like the dialogue in it, the phrases in it, you just wounded hilarious. And like it's not meant to be funny Anthony.
It's meant to be brilliant. It's not really a heavy dialogue film. No, but I think the dialogue of users, it's punchy. It's memorable.
It doesn't, as you said, it relies on, makes it a big, big moments rather than the soul. This film does not have soul beat at all. That's any element to it. It's very much broad strokes.
Even when she's getting in the hospital, it's like you see a reactant and like the bit, I hear it again because I'm terrified. Nails is the pull out. Nails every few seconds of trying to inject her. The amount of times I really pass out in this movie as well.
Not because it's scary. It's just that thing. It's the sounds in the hospital because I've got sensory issues. And that it's the sound like even my phone can set my anxiety off.
And it's that like beeps and blips and beeps and the buzzes as well. And it gets us on edge. I do not like that. I don't like the hospital bit at all.
But when I'm really paying attention to this film, is the end part, is when they're all in the house and they don't leave the house. And maybe for a few years, I've not paid close attention to what I'm actually watching because again, like I said, it's just such an easy watch for us. I just go through the motions because I love this film so much. It's like how I am with Ghostbusters.
I'm really paying that much attention to it because I've seen it so many times. All right, I'm just going through the motions to go from the finish to the end. And I do that with this as well. No, definitely.
I think, as I said, a lot of the like support and cast don't get like, say kind of like the credit that the properties are due. Because as I said, I don't like the movie as well. I don't like it. I don't appreciate it as much as others.
The accident in it is brilliant. Like even like the small, like the young girl that was dead in the babysitter, heard of the reactions and like when she's downstairs came with the radio trying to drown out the screams and the noises. You can say this to be like paying like the buttler. It's like say the German buttler.
He actually cares. And like, you can tell he's almost like sheepishly or scared in the house, like supportive. And I say, I know I don't need to fuss about Carne and Browniam. She like goes from like her own ass terrified shrill to desperation to the point as you would with your daughter.
Just very superman towards the end, isn't she? But what I love as well. She never blames the daughter. No.
Because a lot of people would say, she's backing herself or it's the thing. She realizes that for something not right, that's not her daughter. And she never likes it. This is really good.
Mrs. Her fault. Mrs. Her fault.
Mrs. Her fault. She knew her child, didn't she? She really does.
You know what? The actress who plays as obviously, she's a very famous actress. I can't remember any of them. But you know what blew my mind.
Sorry? Alan Bones do. That's it. What blew my mind is when I watch my dragon and she's not in it.
She can't physically see it. But she's the voice of Dolla Hyde's mum. And I was like, oh my god, that's her! I loved it.