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All right, so the Thursday action is that where it's gonna be? The dirty boys reunion on Thursday, right? Okay, that sounds interesting. I'll probably be busy So hopefully I'll catch that for something but yes, so we thought we'd get this one out tonight just because of The ending of the show was that was yesterday in the UK which was Sunday night in America So trying to piss the occurrence time trying to stay relevant shall we say instead of doing like we did to the Mandalorian Do a review on the Mandalorian six months after was out, which kind of didn't really work as well so yes, we are gonna be talking about the last of us and A grant you did see early on the chat you wanted to do the disclaimer.
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I thought it was sleep yesterday so So yes, and so did you enjoy the show? Awesome. Oh, yeah, we've got a talk about this evening. Yes No, there's no rhyme or reason so yes, and I know we've done an episode already where we've done the first three episodes review We were planning on doing it every three episodes but time happens and we did get incredibly busy So trying to keep up with it did become quite difficult.
Shall we say it? So now um with six episodes on I know Grant was not an episode So I would love to get his review his thoughts shall we say at the beginning at the start? How did you feel it went there? How did you feel that we got the story um?
Haven't known nothing about the story up until the point that I've watched this because I was aware of the fact that it was a game I was aware of the fact that I should like it, but I don't like PlayStation converse So I've never played it and I was fortunate enough that the game wasn't spoiled for me like I didn't know the concept behind it other than The fact that it was supposed to be quite upsetting and I've been blown away by what I've seen from a purely TV and cinematic standpoint with no bias Coming from the games. I think this is an absolute work about 100 agree I Visually, I don't think there's many things that can compete or come close to what we've had Um, especially early on shall we say and or um, let's say we'll get into the late episode and stuff and there has been some amazing views later on as well But I think at the beginning if so Sean brighter than most things that it was it was almost like it was proud of itself if that makes sense It was sticking out with just and no this is what we're going to be producing This is how it's going to be viewed um Try and take it up. There's a lot of people waiting for this short of field I think with the online communities and and as you said the fan base that it has with the game as well People were waiting with being breath. It's in we want not the probably not that I wanted to feel they were expecting sin Like they're almost got like in gleefully thinking this is going to go wrong.
This is not going to be my game Um, like here, Kaitlin away already before the game Even short game out which um, I haven't seen probably since the last zombie Uh, like say sure that we got what was the walking dead But instead of a game nerds it was comic book nerds. There was in this is I was this nobody else can share this and or wait For it's like not to hit the highs of the game, but on the whole I think this Didn't surpass but lived up to the expectation for me I think at the beginning the first episodes surpassed anything that I had but going forward that there was a few Things that like say are not issues, but Things are probably if I was me if I'm not saying I would make anything better or about change anything There's probably things I would would have done differently or like wanted more from it if that makes sense But the beginning the start like the first episode to first three episodes. Sorry. See it was some of the best DB I've seen probably in the next last last 10 years Yeah, a great one.
So easily. Yeah, I think the thing with the apprehension about the gaming community mostly comes from the fact You know comic book nerds if you will get an Adaptation they've got good and bad to pick from You know, there's a lot being a lot of attempts at Computer game annotations over the years and there's been a lot of them. They got it very very very wrong I'm trying to get the fear if you will of seeing a billion dollar failure on something as beautiful as the game is Acclaimed to be but I don't know I think the upper engine maybe came from the right place Obviously evolved into some pretty shitty gatekeeping, but when it initially started it was like oh my god They're gonna streetlight of this Early room as was this was gonna be a movie It was never gonna like I don't think it was ever gonna be penned as a TV show when it was first talked about and This game has been around for quite a number of years as well So it's past a few hands and it's been like rumored or um in like a script health like in a lot of different places So it's almost like we were never gonna get this type sure but then PHP or come up with its big wallet and said let's let's basically make the fuck out of this and One thing I will give credit for and all we're through every single part in this the casting was on point And there's elements to it and there's things that we probably will Enjoy and surprises that we enjoyed that I wasn't expecting like the young girl But that's a new round see yeah I know a lot of people were a little bit apprehensive took for her at the start and even I think we just discussed it as well It's like the dark side that she saw and I would say that L didn't have in the in the game It was like that a little bit of like menacing like what's gonna happen but I wear she's gonna go or type thing and that kept you a little bit of Intrate now I should go through you find out like the story and like the background stuff certain things make small sense But I can't think of a character in the whole show from episodes one and nine that was either wasted or wrongly cast Which for a show like this it could have went horribly wrong Yeah, yeah 100% I As you know from the our first last of us recap of the first three episodes I Delibately didn't see any trailers. I had zero expectations of the last of us I think more than anyone I've seen get keeping a lot when it comes to TV shows, you know being a tricky when a new Star Trek's announced people are like oh, it's already ruined and I Pending they're probably even started yet like it's literally we have an idea and they say it's already ruined Video game adaptation is sort of gone the same way where side this is gonna be a movie This is my shop and I like oh it's gonna be ruined.
It's gonna be like you've not actually seen one Fringeth yeah of this so I I took myself out of it And I was like well if it's good if it's bad it's bad no harm We've got a brilliant game 10 years ago. Hey, huh? So I was Pleasantly surprised and how good it was we've had some absolute corka episodes Overall I'm happy with it. Mm-hmm.
Even if they weren't going to do a second season I would say as a self-consaned first season. This is probably one of the best video game adaptations in movie TV ever Because it was done so clearly with passion with love and with a view of this is what happened in the game Yes, we will change stuff. We will change stuff so subtly that it actually benefits the story instead of taking it away like Bill and frankins and It benefits the TV version of it So it doesn't you know you don't go back to the game and say all the games shit now because it doesn't have this you like You can appreciate the game for what it is and you can also appreciate the show for what that is yeah, not 100% Things like clear not the criticize I'd rather get these out the way early because as you pointed out There was things that to me worked for the show and the things that probably weren't again worked against the show If i'm going to be honest, I do think this show is the perfect binge watch show I think if you sat down and watched say half this half this season in one day and watched the half this season the next Or even like say within a few days The floor for the show would feel a bit better and again this is probably just down to like What we get now with being a bit greedy and with like the access to streaming and different shows the weekly one episode format Didn't quite work as well with this as it has worked with other shows where like one division chuk for example You're waiting to watch an episode then you'll go again for the next episode in the week and thing and it left you thing and what's going to happen With us except from grands with him not just playing again with us kind of knowing the story or knowing where like the clock lines were going to go I didn't know what changes were gonna make you're kind of like Not like losing that anticipation you were like getting that frustration morning thing I said I just want to the experiences and I think that's one of the things that kind of hurt this show Towards the end because the hype at the start was amazing and normally when it's a season finale You've got everyone talking about online and I'll be honest even in the new york north group There wasn't many people mentioning the season finale for it There's a few people talking about like and I think the pacing of the show kind of hurt a bit And I don't know about you going because would you being like say not the fan of the game? Did you feel similar or did you get that feeling from the show or was it still same beats?
Yeah as Without the expectation of what already experienced in the game I would say that the episodic format did actually work for me at least I've been very very excited to come home and watch this But being very very aware of the fact that there's a huge amount of people that aren't watching it So they can binge it so that hasn't really been any conversations happening in my private life or anything like that With regards to you know like speaking to you guys or speaking to other friends or people at work um I did think that from maybe about episode five to about eight It it felt like it not that it's stuttered But just I get what you mean about the pace in there I thought the earlier Blowed very very well and then it just kind of it I wouldn't even go so far as to say that it started to trip over itself or get like a little bit confused or anything just something Didn't quite go but a nine ten episode season is probably not what I'm used to either in relation to stuff that I binge watch I'm normally used to watching like I'm in season finale around episode eight, you know shorter seasons don't really work for me You know you're talking about walking dead there before all their early seasons are 16 18 episodes aren't they? But yeah, like I say with you guys about the start on the first episode No, you're right about the first three episodes the first three episodes are absolutely berefting and and then I wouldn't I don't like to turn filler You know what I mean because I think filler has a very very important purpose in building the depth of What's happened around us and I just don't think it quite built as much depth as I wanted it to See what it was doing. I could see that it was trying to show me kind of broader things and You know, it's not really doing anything for the long term storyline. It's just that set an atmosphere Maybe I don't want to say about one of them, but maybe a few more mushroom monsters might help That's being that's being mentioned quite a lot since the finale had the lack of infected Season I do I like the fact that they haven't over killed it One of my big criticisms about stuff like the walk-in dead and game of thrones and that kind of thing I think the fan base imploded in on themselves and more shows, you know game of thrones are just resorted to I want the dragons.
I want the dragons. I want the dragons I think they were fucking dragons and the same goes for the way that they've ended the walk-in dead I'd like to see them use it sparingly I did what I was saying. They're saying almost like criticism and I started this by saying it was a work of art. I think there's great um Forsyte into what they're where they're gonna take it in relation to how they face this first episode They this first season rather they they know what they're gonna do three four seasons of this Maybe I don't know where it finishes in relation to the games I don't know that end point is the end of the first game or whether it's fucking two hours in reporting our epic You know what I mean?
So I've got faith. Yeah, I think I think when we discussed that the like in the first like when we first reviewed the first things I think we all agreed Um at that time that we can probably see around two or three seasons Like all this if they want to keep like true as they keep saying they're gonna be true to like say the storyboards and stuff like that If they're gonna tell the story the way they have now I can see that happening because It's interesting you see like I know not sitting at or criticizing it but with the the key thing is like foreshadowing and Um, world building I think good will said that the idea of the world building in the early episodes were breathtakingly done Well, like even like the starts where you got that little minute like we know to Conversation where the told you about stuff what happened before they infected or and think that bill elements like the world building Like creating these type of like feelings and where like you're getting like the expansness for it It was like great. But then afterwards it might be not by intention that it felt very claustrophobic when it come to the later episodes I know what's trying to build the relationship with Ellie and Joel and try and get that stronger aspect So that might be what they were going for but for me nine episodes I was excited because it was gonna be a short season because it said right it's gonna be quite interesting quite impactful But I obviously felt we could have done with obviously two or three episodes more And I'll explain the reasons why I'm saying this we got a two part episode in the middle when Joel and Ellie were in the city and I say that's when we got the big monster and makes it when they were showing what it likes in that town They probably sort of got that episode in one Let's be honest because it was the two the episodes where we needed two partners was the one where elmeth David Because in in the game He is one of the most vicious and horrifying characters that I was really excited to see brought a life because that makes it town and I think They did it really well But I think if you've done it over a two-part episode or even been a little bit brave and done that as a season finale and they moved on to the last episode Like the next season That would have been really like quite impactful for me and quite powerful Instead it just felt like another episode like a big enormous the killer of the weak type thing where it could have been like it was good And like everything about it was intense and what needed to be But we need like Joel should have been Under more and like said like else would have been like panicans in like all the starvation aspect would have been Quite interesting to see and they would have been building more that relationship with Ellen Joel because by the last episode You've got that father son really father daughter relationship that That Ellen Joel did have like by the story wise But probably so was about because the time jumps to me and missed out so much of that building that like even though hints like Joel Teaching I know if I was getting the next thing Joel teaching el the ship with a born arrow or Make it send up snares like teaching of these things that he didn't again or and little suspense things like sneaking past Like it clickers or sneaking past infected But they don't have to even engage with them just to say okay as these over here We need to go around and like it's just I love the word term you use world building that world building would have given so much more debt And I'm not saying we've got anything bad. It just felt a little bit rushed to me Well, it was like and I loved and all thought about the last episode later on but to me that was the only Negative I can take away is that I wanted more but if they give us a little magnore me if they give us more and you think Oh, they've given us too much.
I don't think that would have been the case with this one I think I I agree You know where the I think it should have been ten episodes 10 episodes with the runtime of some of the episodes increased a little bit and the first two episodes or three episodes if you will of the world building where we got to see the world before the outbreak and What was happening especially to Carter that that's called opening in jakarta where you know, this is the source of the outbreak This is where the card is not so mutated in a grain factory where great is exported all over the world You know one person's gone missing and it was so beautifully done where she's like, you know, how do we do this must be vaccinated She's like I've trained and there is no vaccine. What can we do bomb bomb everything? And then that was it like that, you know, we got to pay with Bill and Frank and we got a bit of exposition here and there with Joel but I think if if they just Put a couple more of them to show that It wasn't just America. It wasn't just this was the entire world and just how quickly it spread I think it would have been brilliant to create this universe And just to show how quickly and how devastating this this this mutation was because it was built up on the very first episode of the year Bc interview in six days and it's like, you know, if they do this, that's it.
That's the end There's nothing we can do and just to show me a little bit more of that desperation like sure Cities being bombed out of desperation to stop it sure every part of it like certain parts of the world struggling with it and being overwhelmed It's just built on that but it was also um In terms of the games Throughout your journey in the game obviously there's little dialogue options throughout so when Ellie sees something you press triangle and she's like What's this like a PlayStation? You know, and obviously the game is 2013 that sets not 2003 Which is like, oh, do people use to play this? Yes, and it was just we needed those I think tiny little things because yes Ellie is street wise Shall we say but she's never experienced the world outside of the confines of the qz She's yes, she's played and she you know, she was in them all and stuff like that We got a little bit in the in the mall episode The left behind the else say but I think just like you said building that Relationship with Joel and Ellie and just hint teaching her about other things in the world And we got so few of it like I loved the bit where the the the writing from my awning and she's he's like Oh, I was a contractor before the apocalypse and she was like, oh, did you explain what he did? She was like, oh, so you're heroes.
He's like, yeah, I was a hero She didn't know any difference. She didn't know what a contractor was. He's like, yeah, all right now from hero too, right? Um, but it was those tiny little things that I think Just would have helped flesh out this one because I think the last of us It's it's a well, I'm not gonna say wonderful But it's a universe that people would want to know a lot more of like you want to know okay, so there was this outbreak Yes, Joel explained it briefly.
Not one really knows. But why can't the audience know? Do you know what I mean? Like we've found a little bit in Jakarta Tell us a little bit more they might do it in season two But I feel that the first half of the season it was really done well And then the second half was a bit rushed and like you said with the David episode That did feel like a killer of the week and David was such a terrifying character in the game And the the undertones that were high like sort of hinted to in the game were more Clearer in the episode and I think if that was a two-parter hell yeah Absolutely because he was a character that deserved to be exhibited for how monstrous he actually was yeah No, definitely and I like say with um different things into and it's almost like he's in here at the same time where I don't know again.
I'm not looked into it too much probably should have before but actually we've been working bless us um It almost felt there was different like like the different parts like the first three episodes was done made by a certain group of people The middle three episodes was then or the middle the middle two was made by like a like that two part of that was made by a certain group of people Then everything that came afterwards was so I felt I know all this you'll have different directors and people working on But this was the first TV show that felt like the tones in different places was completely different It was like the first thing is like concentrating on building this world building this like kind of environments and building that you care about this world Not just about the characters but about the world that that's basically went to shit Um, then it was basically The action episodes so it's like right we're finished after the like with the bill in front The bill in front episode would need to do something impactful. So then it was like the action episodes which we did predict who we're going to get and we did get it And then afterwards it was like almost like right we've got these things that we need to do So we need to get we know where we need to get to but we don't know like the other things and we put these things in place To try and get there so not this later or like it feels like i'm slagging off the shore because I did really enjoyed and I was excited to see it every week But there was elements I was like thinking right Why I don't I can understand why you've done this part but I don't understand Exceed these elements as a whole if you watch it all the way through And to be fair it's probably gonna be like a snide could it would be like a brilliant movie type thing but um It just felt like In pieces it could have been done by different people because I think that that was probably with the time jumps as well Because the time jumps was never really explained as well and went to all like metis brother. I've lost you I've got his near now um, Tommy. Tommy.
That should have been meant more and it should have been bigger and it I wanted to see I know what we're gonna. I know we're gonna get more Tommy But the whole sole reason was to find Tommy and then it was so easy for him to let Tommy go Um, go this is my new mission But he kind of like think oh with the time jump you lost why it meant so much to him So if you kept like say like some little bit like not use the weather ground you put fille fits because fille bits as grand said Is very important for sure like this. It's the help improve build and then take from it as well Cause some people are like some people want but that again it builds you understanding and you know why? So someone picked up like the last of us I'm not saying you should but halfway through you wouldn't understand why These elements will be where if you had all the extras in it could I know it sometimes Doing too much or writing are we complaining about people treating the audience like idiots?
This didn't do that I'll give it its due it did not treat us like we should do it but For the lack of the better thing the story would have been so much more impactful Like we would be talking about this was one of the greatest TV shows since the sopranos if they had these like tones and textures That's that's my personal opinion, but um, but I think it's kind of like I know the can't do every episode like it But like the bill and frang episode where it was like that was the peak that was the like the Went we're not going to do better than this so we're not going to try to do better We're going to try and do something different. So that's almost like how it felt for me So everyone's in such stunned silence there But yeah, it's yeah, I totally get what you mean. Um, there was there was a bit we talked about this Few weeks ago about pacing and how the pacing felt a bit off in certain episodes Um, and I know we'll talk about the last episode, but I think I liked the last episode But I think it could have been longer Because again certain things that were in the games that I was looking forward to seeing would there Um, and I think because when I loaded it up on now cv and I looked at it and I was like 42 minutes really Immediately I was disappointed because I was like it's only 42 minutes. Why do you know what I mean?
I thought it's the episode finale at least take it to an hour because the fans will be wanting You know to see the epic conclusion like they saw in the game And I just thought why why is this and I went through the the list of it and you know that it was like 15 minutes 55 57 52 42 minutes and I was like this is the episode like this is the season finale why easy it saw uh shot But going back to like what you said about bill and frank that was the highlights episode of this season for me And strangely the one that has Joel and Ellie in the least So it's sort of like we like these characters. We like Pedro Pascal as y'all. We like better amsey as Ellie But these two were so much more, you know better because of the way it was on and yeah, I can sort of see whether they knew this was the the pinnacle and after that the hike sort of started to peter down which is sad in a way because You could see that yes, there was there was moments obviously in the game the david stuff that you wanted to see Ingrid you wanted it fleshed out you wanted to see these monsters you wanted to see cans of city and stuff like that and it's just I was never got bellarams or el on a raft no one was actually about in a raft what the fuck no and it just it felt like Yes, obviously if you had everything in the game you would have a 60 episodes season because there was so much So yes, you have to cut stuff, but I feel that It the fat was trimmed a little too much in some places and then kenji and others which just felt like well, okay Why there but not here and you know a lot of that for me was in the final episode um, so I mean overall like I said overall I love this I think it was absolutely brilliant that It was brilliantly executed. I think only hb or could have pulled off the last there was any other network any other company would not have Been able to do it the way hb or did Um, but yeah, it was just it after bill and frank the pacing just felt rushed more than anything Um, and it was just like okay.
We've had one two three five six seven and it was just it was all the two quickly for me And I think if you had one more like that If we had one more episode and even if it was just a two-party with david and then the final episode was an all along Had it been a lot happier with it. Yeah I think like and all We don't it sounds weird because we love this show and it's it we're not being all over critical. We're just Sounding out like I would like me to fail and like one elements to it But I really want to talk about like some of the things that actually blew me away in the whole series as well Like from the get-go as grand said visually. I've never seen a tv show look as stunning as this.
Um, like It was right out the comic out of the game at times But done to the tend to the grade I'd looked mesmerizing other elements as well that I Loved was the fact that we went back to all's practical effects for a lot of the stuff and a lot of the monsters and They could have made these creatures like cgi Like blah blah balls and stuff especially when we got the blower episodes because we were rumored that we were gonna get different types of like infected And different viewpoints of them, but I didn't think we would get a blorter to be honest I thought that would have been something that would have been left or done But the would have had to the hat to The hat to because you you had more or less all of them from the first year you needed a blower I thought it would have been sooner But that that blower man that suit half a million dollars that suit. Yes And that that was like say one of the highlights as well saying that suit saying that element as well I don't know like I know Grand soon putting up being like a familiar of the game and stuff Like how did the like the looks and like the fails of these creatures like resonate with you? I thought it was absolutely breathtaking. Um, I think the way that they've Been implemented the fungus into things was it was jaw-dropping the blorter.
I think it's that big motherfucking thing that calls out the ground after the thing goes That goes through the front of that house. Um, it's a truly spectacular reveal of I'm not even sure if this is going to be the big part, you know what I mean? I'm assuming that in the grand scheme of things. This is probably about a mid-level enemy In the game it was um, it was the boss on the front level And not Bill sorry Yeah, right so it's a boss but it's an early game boss You know what I'm saying?
For them to reveal that and know in the way that computer games flow. I was like, okay, that's awesome But then also thinking what the fuck am I gonna see by the end of season three? Um, I completely agree about the practical effects as well. I haven't looked too deeply into it and know what was practical What was CGI?
I've seen a lot of the behind the scenes and photos that they did and that kind of stuff and that it's Tom's a mean eat of the end degree. Um, you know, again, we're supposed to be cool in the later episodes But the one with the clickers are they? Um, I thought that was some of the best kind of horror and well suspense horror that Absolutely on TV full-stop And it you're sitting there you're holding your bloody breath It's always kind of more than sudden it takes a special kind of director and editor And you know, obviously the entire group to make it feel like that and they pulled it off perfectly. I loved um, yeah I'm loving the TV Until it's extended on the going back to more practical effects because when it comes to obviously I'm not that you know Well, I'm not thinking horror but when it comes to stuff like this the more practical the better because it makes it more terrifying because the actor The actress is reacting to what you know, what she's seen and what we are seeing at the same time.
It's not just a stick It's not just a puppet. They see something so visceral And they are able to react to it more naturally and the clickers Were outstanding. Yes, the blorter was brilliant. The clickers were outstanding the way those people moved Yeah was spot on from the game absolutely spot on and it you know You can tell Neil Druckman is sat there and said they moved because of this you need to desensitize This and listen and that's it and you need to react like you and it was just it was so brilliant You know what the the CGI bit that I and I mentioned this in the last one that I found terrifying Was the tendrils coming out of the mouth and I think that was so well done Like in the first episode you see it I think in the first episode you see a lot more than any other episode apart from the testing But it was so well done.
It was so subtle and it's like oh god that is Just to have something like that just reaching into your mouth and infecting you in such a way that it was so terrifying to think about But it was so subtly done The bit as well like because the blorter wasn't the highlight for me on that episode when the blorter was emerged Because like I say it was amazing But the thing that I did find was absolutely quite horrifying was the little girl That was going in the car and she almost done like a kind of like an exorcist type of spider walk You can talk to the self-worth at sea so yeah like say the elements to that and just like say there be actions to it It's using these type of elements. I was going to say horotrops or horotrops in a tv show that is not what we say a quintessential horror And on like say it is a horror tv show horror. It's a survival game more than anything else But to see these type of elements and you kind of cheer as well when we get like certain bad guys or certain people that do die and stuff like that Like the last that was over two and a half men and she was in that film with Leonardo DiCaprio Whether comments to coming down to like look up and I've got an aim now the the brown haired girl I was basically a tour of the zone and basically was saying Kathleen Kathleen But like her like that's a thing to give her the Jew and like say she got a great Like you felt like she had a presence and as you said she got a two-part episode So I gave you that more and I think that was impactful as well when else friend I can't remember his name I'll be brain's just right the little they're looking to be what the superhero masker was death and oh yeah He's brilliant and having that aspect where like say it's given people Um like a chance to be seen and like have representation as well That was like so breathtaking as well to see that in like this and having the balls to go up balls to the wall with some of the decisions as well I know there would have been open arms if they didn't make the decisions or make other for changed elements where they had him live because We know what happens in the game. Um, so we were kind of expecting certain things I think but TV games and movies have certain rules that they always try and stick by this kind of broke them because it kind of made you like fall in love with characters and then go right go to take them away I almost had like a game of thrones element where you weren't if you hadn't read the books You weren't sure who was gonna make it out the episode because you thought this person here He's a shown thing he's gonna be a mainstayer all the way through But no, he's had his head chopped off and gone and they did that throughout the show But as I said, the way I would have like again not to go back to say it It felt like we had a two season Show crammed into like nine episodes.
So with the different elements because you could have said We could have had a season in here. We could have had a season in here Like I said, but again It's brave of the short of make these decisions because it's not about being greedy at the same time So it's kind of like knowing what you've got and saying right we can expand it or we could do like a walk and dead and have 11 seasons Rightly or wrongly so the end it's in it's gone on too long It's been a dead horse now Is it gonna be the rich of yes effect with the office in what he got so many we want more That that's probably is gonna be like the discussion between nerd and nerdism for the next few years is like when this sure ends We were gonna be saying did we get enough or like did we get the full everything that we wanted if that makes sense? I think As we just as we previously discussed this is gonna be two or three seasons And I think the season two and three will probably be the second game split up Because the second game was obviously bigger I think For Sony It's it's sort of set an extremely high bar for other companies at this all the rights and activities or so So I've heard a lot of talk of obviously the god of war series on Amazon And people have said look Sony hit we all have done this with the last of us God of war meets to meet or exceed that because if it's even slightly below it will be considered a failure And this is the sort of made a rod for the wrong back now because like we've got this triple a title that we've made into a successful tv series We've also got this other triple a title and it's like if you don't match that Then you're in trouble because these studios now will be looking at that and going right what other games can we can we make? And not dogs got not dogs got a catalog Well, let's be honest the one thing one shot is because they've had a movie And even if they did it would have to be a ground up It will be like the last of it would be a ground up reimagining or a remake or something Do you know what I mean?
I don't know how they would even do that Or it's it's very difficult I think Neil Druckman is very clever and basically said we are sticking to the second game Whether you like it or not whether or not he does it is two or three seasons Lea thinks to be expected but I don't think they're gonna do a walking dead I absolutely don't think that it will be self-contained And he'd be like if we I mean let's be honest if we have three seasons of an excellent show like this everyone would be happy Yeah, no, no, I don't I don't know if this is even that that's the thing It's just as you said with certain things we saw spoils shall we see it like we are in the generation now when it comes to content where we are spoils We've got so much stuff out there that we can't even watch it all at once Like this is probably the golden age of TV or Or shall we say content wise because it's not just TV, there's streaming, there's movies There's every single asset of content that anyone can consume you can get and they saturated in it Yes, so again, I don't want to be that person that discusses Oh, we want more and stuff like this I know what we got and it's always gonna be um makes it a bit It's epic and the only thing is After the like season finale last night, I'm not gonna lie I did feel a bit flat But I think that's because of how the game ended as well because after the game ended you felt a bit flat Because you've been through this roller coaster and this epic thing and it was kind of like Not not like say the kind of like the explosion or the excitement you get when something ends like or think what's gonna happen next It was kind of like wow like say the they went through with what the promise and that actually stayed true So it wasn't like a flat bad film if that makes sense. It was kind of like That realization that we got what we got Yeah, it's in terms of interdisticking to the games It's I mean, let's let's be honest interdisticking to the games. They're pretty much nailed it Whilst making subtle changes they have nailed it. Well, I think the ending much like the game It's that course isn't it.
This is how the world ends not with a ban but with a whimper And it's like so go on No, I could say all I All I yeah, exactly I mean props props to meloramsey for that scene Because you knew like just from the eyes Watch like Ellie in the game. You knew she knows he's bullshit Yeah, she's choosing to go with it But yeah, I mean that ending I'm happy with that ended just her saying okay I was happy with that. It's gonna be like all that stuff could be longer But it's that's that's what the game was the game is not Building to a massive crescendo. It's not doing anything.
It's just It's a real life. Yes. So taking away from the game aspect because like I really want to get grand's opinion on it as well How did you feel like with the ending like with you know what was gonna happen or no one the film? So if you take it back for say the last two episodes with the David episode and the finale like how was that for you?
What was your like feelings through that? Well, no one that there's two things that the writers need to be very aware of it's It's difficult to not be biased by the fact that I'm aware that there's a long term soaring long term sorry Telling element to this, you know, they've still got more material that they need to cover Um, so purely from a cinematic perspective That short last episode I actually really liked the concept behind it. I like the fact that they didn't go Oh, we're gonna have a blowout and we're gonna throw everything at it was almost like it's just gonna be another Normal episode at the end of the story. It's nine parts of you know ninth part of nine Especially the last episode David's the is he the cannibal guy?
Yeah, I am I've very much enjoyed that And they need to obviously be very aware of the fact that you talk about not expanding the universe and that kind of thing that They don't want to overwrite it and destroy the experience for you to you know I mean they've got to get a very very fine balance with what they're doing with this and we've talked about well building and flashing it out And the bits that it's flashing out it's flashing out for you guys But it's not flashing out for somebody that's watching it from a TV perspective So I probably would have wanted to see more of the landscape Because I'm assuming that the game gives you a lot of truly breathtaking visual And from a cityscape and across landscapes and all of that kind of stuff and yes, we do get it, but we don't get it Lingering If you know what I mean, I'm sorry i'm going to go back to the previous point there a little bit because when you guys were talking I was like Yeah, absolutely There was a bit in that last episode for me No one that all I've heard about the game is that it's absolutely heartbreaking where I thought he was going to hand Ellie over to the last And that was going to be it and you lose Ellie out of it and there's your there's your game of thrones You know what I mean? And then last of us too could potentially have been some kind of redemption arc for Joe having you know Sacrifices is not a twice in the same lifetime. You know what I mean Like I say with not being familiar with the source it was that kind of Is he? It got us up.
It did keep me on the edge of the top. Not like that But it definitely only had to be a little bit especially with what I'm assuming is Kind of a take on how the game goes in the game. I'm assuming you've got to walk through that Hospital and shoot Step by step exactly like shot by shot was literally the only thing that was different is the feeling because in the in the game It's more desperation Joel like Joel's desperate. This was um, Michael Douglas from fallen down Joel It was kind of like I've got a mission.
I've had enough of this shit I'm not losing another daughter and literally just going through the like Motions of just taking every fucker out that was in his way where the game is a bit more desperate So he's kind of frantically looking through his stuff where this is just like no You're not gonna tell me something bad you did and I like that and I love the looking like padra padra I'm saying All the eyes show we see in this episode because he got he's daughter back And you could see like the love and like care in it and this the sheer when Marlene told him that It's just gone. He's not gonna get to say her again. You just knew and it was almost like his eyes went black And he's like no didn't he yeah, he's just like this is my mission This is how it's gonna go down and nothing is gonna stop us And that that's even makes his kind of way when he gets to like the operating the theta Um like say in game He probably takes a little bit longer to shoot the doctor where in this it's like moving away nor bang Fuck off typing and that was to me felt more like Joel was in this show because He spent so many long as I keep telling us throughout the show Joel has done some bad things. Joel's not a nice guy We've not seen bad guy Joel in this we're just seeing Joel looking after himself caring for people like he's about but even when he was with um The girl at the start again, I'm terrible with names of the year Um She talks about like their relationship that's they kind of one-sided that Joel's not got that feeling there but we can Sorry test.
Yes. Oh, test. Yeah, sorry. Um, but We got the feeling in that so we like we're seeing like where's where's that coming from where this Joel is supposed to be This feeling this just dead inside person and we didn't get that till that point Where you saw this is where Joel has to do something and you thought sorry You went this is bad Joel and it was really interesting to say That's sorry.
No, just quickly. I did give that bite to me. I know you're talking about desperation element that you got when you play the game I think maybe that comes from the fact that the gamer is expecting to save Ellie to me Joel in Joel Sorry in this scene. It was almost like he'd given up on actually being able to save Ellie and it was all about vengeance It was just kill them all Ellie might be gone, you know the the interaction before that And when he's getting dragged out the hospital bed and what have you but to me it was framed more akin to Ellie's gone and there's nothing you can do about it.
Um, sorry good. Well, I didn't mean to cut you off that I'm it. Um, well, I was gonna ask you a question about we're going Well, I was just gonna go back to what Paul said about the operating Did you not feel in the David episode where he captured those two people that we saw by Joel That's you know because he obviously shank the kneecat He was gonna rip the kneecat off and then he told me what he wanted to do and then he killed him anywhere And then did you not see because obviously we saw it in the first episode where the the trauma set in And he killed the soldier he didn't have to kill the soldier or the trauma set in any he just went blank And we saw it briefly in the David episode where he killed those two people And I just did you because obviously you never played the game grump Do you think What Joel did in the hospital Was right or do you think he was a bad guy? Definitely what he did was right.
You know what I mean? Sitting there not just as somebody that has an experience the game but somebody that gets very very immersed in What I watch, you know, I mean I was whenever I'm on the podcast I'm always throwing out this kind of stuff that gets me on a very very emotional level I like stuff that will put a lump in my throat. I like stuff that will get me a little bit angry and that kind of stuff and Now just that to me all I see is my son You know what I mean when you see somebody build a kind of relationship that they've had even time for the fact that they're bloody walking everywhere Because that's what we do we just walk and talk to each other and so at that point I was I'm just the fireball rage. Yeah, maybe you know what I mean What I mean to me that wasn't bad that was an act of pure passion, you know, I mean it's the edge old this cause because this this discourse has been going for literally 10 years now About what Joel did and it's like he the opportunity to Save humanity from potential extinction over Saving Ellie and it's like does the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few of the one and it's like Logic now In his eyes and this is in that scene.
I think Pedro Pascal played it's all well when Now I'm forgetting and when she told him that and I also shout out to them finally confirming all that's in the TV show finally confirming that the The cordy sap immunity is because what's growing in the brain is transmitting a signal to say that The the fungus is already there and it doesn't need to mutate and you know transmit that single to stop it So she's infected but she's nullified they never ever confirmed that in the in the game They just need to view but we never knew why um but when when she said to him You know, she's the cure they can do this and then he said well it grows in the brain And then obviously he gets winded when he says you know, oh, oh, do it now and just to watch his face Almost like that just change and he just goes numb and he just goes into this one man army And I think the way the played it was what by by reducing the the sound levels until you might make it death He is literally in his own right that's it You know when something happens in life and you can't hear anything around you you just shut down He shut down and his only goal was to save his daughter because he's already lost Sarah He's not going to lose one again and his trauma came full He just came right to the top of the service and that was it. I mean, I've never I've never been asked myself like what what did you know? What what he did in the hospital? Was it right?
Was it wrong and I'm sort of on the fence with it. I'm like Maybe it was wrong because this is a chance to save humanity, but does humanity deserve to be saved It's the trolley problem at the end of the day, you know, it's a that basic philosophical philosophical question You know, you're in a trolley car and you can change lanes and hit five people or not change lanes and hit one person And there's like there's never ever a right answer to it because it's always so subjective You know, I mean what if the one guy's a brain surgeon and the five people are rapists. So, you know, it Yeah, you know I never actually kind of looked at it from the point of view of taking it right back to the first episode If that makes sense, maybe because I haven't been this I'm watching odd episodes like you know before the finale I watched the episode before and what have you but I haven't been doing what I've done With episodic stuff like I did with rings of power first episode came out And then I only watched the first episode of brings up power for a week until the second episode came out and I watched the two of them and you know And so on and so forth. Um I don't know.
I think that only maybe feels my argument that he was right to do so, you know, what I mean After losing his daughter in the first episode it is just snap shut off vengeance for continually taking The thing that I love most, you know, life is a lie and it's meaningless thing the thing I think I was probably done the same It's a very personal choice to make I think the only way you could have changed it up and said if it was a right or wrong Is if they give a lot of choice That would have been the only way you could take because then and at the end she knew and he was kind of protecting her with the lie That we ended with but it's kind of like Do you give her the choice to make because it's the it's the unthinkable choice like again a lot of hate Let's be honest human nature's as a whole where selfish bastards We always think about self-service and ego is king and stuff like that but To make the ultimate sacrifice Like we would all like to think we could do it But when the chips are down you've got to make that decision How many of us could raise our hands and make that decision? I probably wouldn't I'll hold my hands up. Um, but I could have connected me seen me as a coward or see me I think well, be honest about it But there's not many people like say I think there's a lot of people out there that will criticize or say oh like what's he done? I think None of none of us are ever going to be in that situation fingers crossed touch words, but the ultimate decision would be Makes it very hard to unless like say you ever in that situation So it is the impossible question, but it is the interesting question to ask as well.
That's the thing Yeah, if my son's the cure you motherfuckers are turning into mushrooms Anybody that's watching now. Yeah all Exactly of parental instinct and parental protection or the logic and reasoning It is um, I Just like I really appreciated them finally explaining how she's immune And I love I mean shout out to Ashley Johnson for being Ellie's mother. That was I loved hearing Ellie's voice in the show I actually did close me eyes and went Ellie's back. Yeah, um, and you know, I thought the frame.
Oh, sorry. No, no, no I think part of the frame up is you're talking about they say that's how she's immune. Um, at least the way that it was portrayed on the screen It didn't land to me like they knew that for a fact It was like we're gonna cut this girl's brain open and see what happens like nobody actually knew whether it was gonna work Which I think added to your empathy for joy in that sense with I do like that actually 100% they're just gonna do it on the off chance, you know, maybe there's a sign that can get out of our blood So that's actually good theory because obviously because they said the fungus grows in the brain And it did hijacks the brain like any other part, you know, the the codiceps in real life attack the brain and then take control of the nervous system So their logic would be well, that's where we need to get the vaccine. That's why we need to cut the brain out So I was she desperation.
Yeah, I can I can sort of see that but when you look at the birth. It's like, okay, so Elies not got at least mommy's giving birth and I mean shout out to Ellie's man for dropping a baby while shunking someone in the Last thing I've ever seen but it's like okay So she gives birth she gets caught up bitten So how quick would it have got to the brain through the umbilical card? Because that's what you have to because like she shanks and then she looks and then she's immediately caught in the gut 30 seconds But they always say it goes through the blood though the blood flow can go through And I think they said from the heart beat can make your blood go through from your like to the start to one end your body together within seconds So it's really that fast to me to talk about with on archer Uh, maybe using archer courts in science beach When archer swings shrinks down and they've got to get to the eye duct from because they instead of being injected in the brain They get injected in the vlog and the go through in the bloodstream So the within the bloodstream it can go through like travel through your body within like seconds So potentially the infection can grow that that quickly as well But um, I just want to talk about as well one of the most beautiful scenes that I've seen in a long time And I grant nailed it with early on he said Within using actually practical things you get to see genuine emotion and genuine reactions that giraffe should see Yeah, they couldn't have done any other way Well, they could have used a robot or like a stuffed animal or CGI, but they used an actual giraffe Dude, I did not know that i can't really drop. I can see giraffe.
No, no, it was a real life giraffe Fucking hell Yeah, the kitchen hit me or calling off the zoo. Yeah, we needed your app So yes, when they were actually feeding giraffes that was like bello ramses actually responses went like was taking like from her and stuff like that So they showed the clip of it like after yesterday. I think yesterday To the end stuff like that of them her and her and like stroking the giraffe and stuff But yeah, they used an actual real life fucking giraffe And that element that was just absolutely magical for like tv wise now You see again from somebody who's got nothing going on that whole scene that initial bit was beautiful But when they got up on the balcony and she was looking out over it I thought they were gonna I am legend that shit I just thought giraffes running around that means everything else in the zoo was running around as well It was like are they're gonna be lions covered in mushrooms. You know is that gonna be the fucking boss You know, it's cinematically it there was still that tension built in there for a viewer I'm fucking the door that scene and I love it so much more now that it's an actual giraffe Because when what last was watching to go oh, and I went, you know, it's CGI I was wrong.
Yeah, so you have to go back. I'm sure again. Look at the real one look at that Like I want one and the long look of money giraffe in this I've already got like the zoo there growing with the monster dog and everything But yes, um, so I know that have released a spoiler Like if you didn't spot her in the scene as well Um, I know you won't know this this name is not gonna mean anything to you grant at the moment But abby was actually in the last episode and she is a protagonist in season three I was into sorry. Um, so one of the young girls in the nurses was actually The person who'd have cast as abby in season two.
All right So that was quite an interesting one because that's a big change in the in the eight or something game. I know they have introduced other characters from the second game already in the in the show so far and all Like say the hint of that tells girlfriend in the later episodes in early episodes when I went to the town But to have abby in this early, how do you feel about that good one? I think it's I think it's all right. I think they've it's it It's a jilter.
Yeah, I think it's more sense. Yeah, and it makes it makes the uh, the events of the the what happened in the second game. I think It makes it more poignant. Yeah, it's gonna be more impactful.
I think because of this and and her rage and go and or It made sense in the game. I didn't like it, but it made sense this With it now. That makes sense now would have done it this way. Yeah, I think the the the rage That the second game got I think It's the execute it was the execution of it that people were upset about I think this although they may not change they may do it better for the adaptation.
Yeah, so You know like like we said the game I mean, I don't know if you know grant like the the way that the infection spreads in the game. It's all um Spalls. Yeah, so Throughout the game they have gas masks and the running joke with the first few episodes are like, oh, they've changed the tendrils from spots Because I don't want Pedro Pascal wearing. Oh no, they're nask in another TV show while he's got on the kid Um, but they said no, but you know it was it was a subtle change But it worked because it was more terrifying like I mentioned earlier and there's been other subtle changes throughout where it's not being It's not like changed the trajectory of the overall story.
It's not changed the tone of it It's it's more enhanced it for TV. Yeah, and I think by doing what they did in the last episode I think it boards well for the second season And I know there's going to be that anxiety all the way up to the season to airing and finishing And possibly there's going to be that anxiety. Yeah, but by doing what they did there. It's sort of Easiest people in a lot more better than how it was portrayed in the second game.
So again Let's clear hollywood producer hollywood director here So with the second season again without giving any spoilers to grant I don't fucking care about spoilers. I've never got Oh, but there may be other people in watching that. Yeah, haven't really played it How would you do the second season would you do it exactly like the game or would you do it a slightly different? So i've got an idea.
I think how you could do it over three seasons and how would how i would do it and how i'd think it would work I I think right we're going to be on the same page for this. I think The second series so that the second season Would be up to a certain point in the second game After that certain point season three starts And then the rest of the second game plays out Ends how it ends and that's it That's that's the way i think they're gonna go. I would do a little bit of a change So I would end the second season exactly well kind of the same point where you were i think we're discussing And all being very cryptic here guys. Sorry But I would split season two if it's a 10 10 season arc a 10 episode after this i'm not nine I would split it in five episodes of jol and ellie's story to that point So never have a mid season finale To get to the point then for the second part of that season I would go back to end of first season and we have abi's story Up until The get to the point where where she needs to do all again shall we see her so so you would have two different stories Play it out in one season, but like so so jol and elspart would end in season five and abi's story would Uh start from season six to season 10.
I mean episode 10 Sorry, but come at conclusion where the ball fell at the same time and then season three Be the revenge that like the way the game played up. I think that would be an interesting take I thought I do I do like that. I if it's executed well, which I have every faith that they could do it if I executed well I will be happy with that And I think you could get a little bit more longevity and it'll give you because if they just play it out The way they've done this season for like for the first game There's gonna be a lot of people piss off after season say episode four Yes That's that's my view so What I know I'm going to call this the master's piece. I would probably say it's not far off a masterpiece It's definitely been one of the best TV shows.
I've seen probably in the last five or six years So I am very excited and I always watch it again if you like as because when your wife comes back I'm much Really if she ever thought and come back We will probably binge watch it again and enjoy it like say that way but um, but yes I think as a whole it's been a massive success and showed what you can do when you get good games Good writers and and the right people involved who don't want to do it quickly or make a quick book Well, it's a the time and actually peer the respected adews to the source material I think Hollywood in in certain elements is starting to realize that if you have People involved in the original source material and you also have people who are passionate about that source material making the show that it's exponentially better and I always contrast it to the The first season of the Witcher where it was let's be honest The only true hardcore fan on the Witcher was Henry Kavil Yeah, everyone else couldn't give a shit And it's been widely documented from people who worked on there where the people have actively hated this source material They don't get it. They can't be asked It's just let's just get this done the Netflix and move on and it's like you look at that and then you look at You look at Static card you look at the last of us you look at other things that have been made by true true fans And you can tell the audience is not stupid and the audience can tell when someone is passionate And they are making something that they are passionate about and I think from this It's I wouldn't say it's a masterpiece. It has its flaws But it is really up there for for some of the best tv I've certainly seen in the last few years and I I appreciate the changes that they've made for tv And and it doesn't take away from the games because a lot of these a lot of these it's like It takes away from the game and you like it makes the game look shit now or this doesn't take away That it's that is a different universe of the last of us And I can appreciate those games and I can also appreciate these show I don't want to you know, I don't want to say oh well, this was this is this and this is why this is shit And it's just like no, I can appreciate it both for standalone pieces of art But it's it's having People who know what they're talking about who love it and having the people who created it or people who are very close to it there It pays off. Yeah, and I'm so glad now that tv is going that way where they're taking on these hardcore fans and these people Actually worked on the games instead of just some random, you know, I would go about the the rest of evil movies and stuff I don't it's like see do you know what I mean?
It's made for a quick book. It's not made with love Yeah That's the way we should like to honest just give us a paycheck. We could do better there That's what they go is getting out of control now. Shall we say?
But you know the mutual respect isn't it? You know, it is I think the danger that you always get when you do an adaptation is that in in order to truly appease the previous fan base There's always been a tendency to try and be faithful sort of speak but Cinema is different from computer and you know, again, it's a different from books You know, I mean if you try to pace Dracula the same way that is paced in the books. It would be a Let's face a terrible cinematic experience You know, I mean the same story with the video games, you know, admittedly the pace is a little bit off in the middle But you always need to do something a little bit different when you change mediums because if you don't do anything different Then you just do in a bad version of what came before it Because it's not definitely the same thing in the medium that it wasn't meant to be released in anyway Yeah, no, I completely agree on like I said that the bill and frank story arc is completely Showcases where that's important and again that you can go off killer like build on different things It doesn't have to be identical. It doesn't have to be thing.
It just has to be good That's as simple as it is people will accept changes or Even if it doesn't ever fully explain just make it enjoyable And a lot of things aren't if that makes sense of the change of because of this We can't do this. We'll move it this way but no It's as you said if it's done with love and care and with With a reason and I think yes, this will be enjoyable to watch Like who would think thoughts like during it like end of the world zombie thing We would have one the most romantic beautiful love stories that's ever been told and favored And it's just like say they give us that and that's probably gonna be the highlight from the show that we got that and they can never take that away from us Yeah, but any last thoughts, I think I'll be quite a nice place to wrap up there Not for me. No, I'm good. I think we've done a good job there.
Yes. No, it's harder. I put in the words actually when I think I needed to adjust the show a few more times but I really wanted to talk about with it being just being out and I say get how I was feeling that was well that was the thing because that's one thing that I do a lot about the show it made us fail and Again, I'm excited for what we get next and hopefully like say with the next big one That's coming out stranger things that the final season they can live up to the hype as well. Um, we shall see we yes Um, we are thank you for everyone who's watching probably is with a bit of Tuesday night I know we've probably not had many views thanks for Beth and Laura if it's sticking with us Um, but if you do catch up I would love to know what other people feel about the show on how it makes you if you enjoyed it Please put in the comments.
Please have spoilerless reviews on the nadio north community for a few more weeks And then we can follow have a follow-up discussion But uh, we are back again this Friday. Well, I'm not back again I did torment him to see I was going to come on just to just to be annoying but crafting goodwill and admiral grem Will be uh without the american counterparts this week where there will be live That's right live on friday night talking about the new episode of the cart. Um, yes Are you excited for that? You got your i- I end in everything.
Oh, the outfit's always owned. I have uh, as people have probably sick of me sin I've been on an absolute twitted blitz um over the last couple of weeks Um, and I have said to I was speaking to someone who um Actually worked on season two and three per card and I said to him I said it is being so long And I mean I'm talking 20 25 years. It has been so long where I have It's been so long where I have looked forward to a day where I've gone I'm really looking forward to watching the next episode of star trek and I can't wait to find out what happens And I can't wait to experience it and I've not felt that for about 20 25 years And it's it's just going back to what I said at the last of was there The shore is made by people who love it and who respect it and who know the material and That love shines through like it did in the last of those the love shines through and I'm here for it We are going to do a crowd funding event to try and get the blue out blue uniform I'm spotty is so good. We'll sit in dress at the spot one time Uh, it's probably not really something no best Okay, guys come get the picture taken with a nerdy spot.
Um, but but yes, um, we have got like say So it's uh, no we're doing top five sit caught in the US american sitcoms this sundae So that should be interesting and then like in the next few weeks We've got nerd first coming up where we are going to take it on the road and see nerds in people in faces and stuff and not to be awkward And that's not gonna happen. Um, and then we have sunny con. Yes, the return I'm gonna keep mentioning the sunnecon because I'm excited for this one So yes, this was just like a say off the cuff special episode and um, a sami less episode instead of a set of pants The sami with miss sami. I think it's any of the second episode we've done without sami involved Um, so it should be should be uh, enjoy your husband's blender.
Shall we say it? It's these birthday of tomorrow's so happy birthday and hope you enjoyed your surprise. Um But yes, um, so yeah anything you want to plug their grant? No, not really.
Oh, well, that's fine Good will um, start track thing because it's somebody who's not a star track fan at all. I've been blown away by Picard I've never watched a single episode of star trek in every generation. Um, or Really any of the td series for that matter, but the pickard is something truly special and that's from somebody that isn't going. Oh, it's that one.
Oh, it's that one is that all the characters come out You know what? I mean, it's it's fucking beautiful. So yeah, what's happening goodwill? You're a if you've got a red one then doesn't that make it?
I've told you about the pips nest I know Yes, and if you check out his grands as well as now doing little videos of him being mugged off by his cats So yes, check out for more Cinematic episodes coming soon. Shall we say? It would be worth it eventually to be fair the first one that I put up there She's quite subdued. Um, she will literally dive over me and snap through that with my mouth So it's worth subscribing to that because at some point you are going to see me get my face mauled off by that little ginger fucker And that's not good.
Well, but yes Yes, so um, then so we'll see you on Friday. Well, I'll be like say good will and the bold out and roll that is great Uh, so yes, it's the same same back time same by channel Say nerdy everyone. Bye I thought good was going to get in