Well, hi everyone and welcome to the Nelly of North podcast. It's a nerdy podcast hosted by Northern nerds. I am losing my voice, but I am so. Oh, bless.
She's alive. She didn't die. It's always a big part of my business. I've been went back in time and spooky times.
Am I a ghost? So, yes, I am the ghost Paul. And my throat is a lot better. I can swallow again.
So good times all around. Good to know. That's why I'm here. And yes, but that's sure.
Immediately lowering the tone. Yes. We have Joey Marx with us today. Who has the best cash?
I did put an effort in what George's cash is remarkable. I was going to put a brew potion in my eyebrows, but I thought. Where would that stop? Where would it go?
Yeah, that's not a start. So, yes. So a little bit out of the thoughts, because Sammy has returned. I'm here.
Dropping out last week and I have the dying. And so, to be fair, we've got the two dropouts for last week. Because both of you are trending out of the stars. Both of you are trending out of the stars.
Both of you are trending out of the stars. Oh, that's fine. I thought about that. I really couldn't make last week.
I was so poorly. Becker and Sarah will contest it as they saw me on Saturday night. And I was just dying. So, yes.
I'm back. I'm alive. It was all alive. Paul, he gave bullshit.
And who would you always tie up in some kind of basement? Because Nicole went up to say him. So, he has managed to escape and untie them bonds. So, glad you came with this.
No, it's a difficult part as getting the doctors to reattach my hands afterwards. So, thank you for the risks. No. It's quite a special guest today, though.
That's the thing. Because this is our guest on the podcast before. So, it's not anything to have a guest. But this is our first guest on the classic episode.
So, we are team of level. What about the classic side of my friend? Classic section now. Classic section.
I feel like I should have a cigar like that. Yeah. Thanks for having me, John. Yes.
Do you want to put up a fight more than three ever did? Yeah. I totally got to that line. Yes.
Welcome to the classic side of my friend. Oh, yes. This is where we get all classic. Yes.
So, Sami, would you like to give us the disclaimer? Yes. If I can see it without losing my voice. Oh, so everything discussing today's episode is our opinions and our opinions alone.
If you'd like to discuss anything from today's episode of Alia's Come and Join us on the Facebook page, you could join us in the Discord or the comments section where we can have an open discussion. Or we won't have this. Anyone coming for us and tell us our opinions are wrong. We can all agree to disagree in fandom.
So, let's keep it fun, keep it kind and keep the toxic behaviour out of nerdism. Very well said. Thank you. And also, can I just say a massive thank you to Jake for doing it amazingly last week.
I did stick around at the beginning to just a mixture with that. That was done. That's something you were doing. You were popping in the chat and when you got to say the disclaimer.
Is that a disclaimer going to be said yet? You went to run with them saying that this year. I know what I was trying to do in the chat was convince people I'd not died. No.
To be fair, if you did die, we'll put like a memorial sign or like a like with the Christopher of Reid. And the you. Oh, can I do that? I was like, the word black and white because you're still so pale.
You are there, which is we can't avoid being. Yes. I've been remotely controlled by the people who are doing a piss-poo with John Lewis. They are passing in stuff like that.
Oh, damn. So many plans and so many things. I know it's something that's going to do with the tag lines and yes, this movie does have tag lines, which is quite exciting. But just to kind of give like a little bit of because when it comes to like the classic section of the podcast for the next 12 months, shall we say, we're going to do like a month by month choice.
So this was my choice. And I think me and Joe share kind of like a similarity why we kind of love these movies. I was talking off screen and talking before. This is why basically as soon as we said, we're going to do the Mark Brothers.
I think I sent you a message and I know you can't do Star Wars, but we're doing Mark Brothers next week. You told us you love it. Would you be offered it? We kind of grew up, but like our parents and our grandpa, my dad and grandfather was the ones who got me into the Mark Brothers.
They showed us like films like Clash of the Titans, other like say, it's a wonder of life. Why Christmas? Those type of movies that like say were had to watch like things like John Wayne, clampy Jane, stuff like that was things that was just on my house all the time as I was kid. So black and white movies was not something that I was ever like kind of like, oh, we're going to stay away from because it's strange.
It was kind of like the norm. And I know like I'm not going to skip away next month but the month after I'm thinking probably about like maybe go down the lines of like Laurel and Hardy and stuff like that. Just just for fun. The next month one is quite serious one.
Yeah. Maybe a light hearted one might be the next one afterwards. Like a part plan, sir. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I didn't actually grow up with the Mark Brothers. This isn't and for someone who loves old black and white movies, it has kind of passed us by.
And you know what I kind of pleased I found them when I did like this last week being, you know, in my deathbed. It's been nice having these guys with us like to like make me laugh and learn about them as well. Like that's been the most interesting part. I did the film like a site like the film is brilliant.
And you could easily put this on today and it's still get like someone who's only watched it for the first time. I still got a genuine laugh out of it. Like and I mean proper bell laughs or aha. But the interesting side is the brothers themselves.
And it's so refreshing to not have scandal after scandal after scandal and it comes to them. They don't get as wrong. They're not angels but. No, they work fucking hard.
They have busted their asses like that. Yeah. Like you don't come from vaudeville and not work like how they did. If you're in vaudeville, you've got you've got a mission and an aim and they certainly had that.
But I do have for all this movie was watched in 1932. I do actually have. Wait for Chris to make the jokes in. Oh Paul was 15 when he watched these.
Yeah. Actually. Oh yeah. It was just it was 30.
Yeah. Hi to everyone in the chat tonight. Thank you for joining us. But yes, I have the taglines for this movie now.
I was explaining to these guys for all the not like taglines of what we would find nowadays. These are like more most advertisement taglines. Come and see the amazing Marx Brothers and Death playing trapeze. You are really not that far off on one of them.
And the wildest picture panicking screen comedy history. That's one of them. That was on a figure there in 1938 in all caps. Broke back again to the laughs.
In all caps. That was another figure there. They go back to the action. I'm going to be able to say this.
They go college of games and change rah-rah into ha-ha-ha. Rah-rah. We need to get Phoebe to serve in the chapters of Southern Ashish. She does a sound bite for that.
Rah-rah would sound so much better than us. Rah-rah. Rah-rah. Rah-rah.
Rah-rah. Ha-ha. And Knight-Mate and Brindled among the horse of Aryans. Oh, the shame of it.
That was on a... That was in Mount Vernon on the 30th September 1932 in one of their newspapers. Okay, I don't get this one. We're next to you.
Again, that was from 1932. Oh, Mertz for Horseman. Run wild through a college of love, thirsty co-eds. Yeah.
Well, yep. That was from 1932. Loonasie becomes a pleasure as these nuts go into college games. They turn Deol Darwin into a monkey asylum at twist.
Rah-rah. Rah-rah. Inter-ha-ha. Ha-ha.
And have a swell time while the school burns to the ground. Oh, swell all time. That was... Did he watch the movie?
Because that doesn't happen. That was from 19th October. There's a lot of weird things like we'll get into this movie as well. Because it's called Horse-Fudders, but there's no horses actually in the movie as well.
Well, absolutely. They turn a college into a madhouse just if Alma didn't matter. Yep. And a few more.
The scandalous record of Lawmarks at college or Life Among Love, Thirsty Coeds. These are all from 1932, by the way. These are all newspaper little printouts. And for the 1932, some of the comedy and some of the comments and jokes were very close to the...
On the last one. Yeah. And the last one is the madness comics of the screen. That one's not bad.
I mean, in comparison to Loonasie becomes a pleasure. Yeah. Yeah. This is one...
Well, I will hold me hands up. I did make a fuck up when I chose this movie. Because even though I love this movie, it's not the best Marx Brothers movie. There's two.
I was curious about that. It's probably the third. I would say the third. Yeah.
I would say third. I think I'm part of the night of the opera. Duxu is actually a masterpiece. I can't see comedy masterpiece.
It is brilliant. And that's the one I got mixed up with. And the other one, I mean, the mix up. I remember the whole series was like, that was hilarious.
Was it like the race? It wasn't it. The other race. The other race is sorry.
That one is just Groucho Marx on brilliant. Duxu sure is all and but the other race is Groucho Marx just at his best. So I did make a mess up. Even though this is still probably the third best Mark Brothers film, it's still brilliant.
And it showcases each and every single one of them. Like, it's just yeah, I feel like I got good quality time with each one of them. I got to know especially for a first film. I got to know who they were.
Like, I got no gradual. It's absolutely fucking hilarious. Like, he's just one after the other after the other. Comedy line is brilliant.
And part ball has my heart. Like, I never said the word. I just saw so good as the catching retention and charm in the year, isn't he? Oh, 100% Chico.
He's a lovable rogue. That's so funny. And I was wondering where the, because the character stays with him, the Italian accent, stays with him. And I was kind of like, obviously doing a little research.
And I came amongst why that is. And when he was younger, he used to sit and watch all the Italians going backwards and forwards through their lives, just outside of his like kitchen window. And he picked up so many mannerisms and accents. So he kind of just went, I'm going with that.
I can do that. I have studied that. And Zebo, oh, you could, and especially now, know what I know about him. You could sort tell he was, he's not, and that's the reason he's not part of the click.
But he's kind of very distant from them. Like, he's almost like he took that a bit too serious. He was always, he's like, he's a straight man, isn't he? He's not, he doesn't get much comedy.
He's there is, I don't know. He's the pretty face. He's like, he's the one who's, he's got to get the love interest, which also did not happen. No, I'll come back to that later.
But this was also my first time watching this. I had seen a lot of other Marx Brothers films. And I'd never seen all of this when you were like reviewing horsemen. I was like, wow, I get to go and watch a Marx Brothers film.
Yeah. He was a demon's a new one. I had them totally the wrong way around. I thought that in my mind, obviously, I just invented this as a child.
The Dezepo was the youngest and that he had joined them as a fourth member later on. But it's totally backwards. They started that with him when they worked with Paramount. Yeah.
And then when they went MGM, he was like, yeah, it's not really for me. I'm going to do something else. And I think it's my dream. Yeah.
One time to get out when you join MGM. Absolutely get them. The more I read about Louis B. Mayor, the more I just want to punch him in the face, even though he's dead, very, very dead.
He's still put dead people. Because it's semi-statically dead as well. So she just went to that realm and just threw it around. I love what you say.
It's the most London thing you ever see. Give him a crack. It's good. Delic.
I could do a bit of research. But it's normally I would just watch the movie and go think, I've got such a love. I've done research for the years. I've read the books.
I've read the articles all about a biography as well. It's such an interesting read. It's always hilarious because they are super, super, and I've always said before, like how hard the book of their artists and worked. They are very secretive or like they kind of don't want to let too many things in.
It's like when people ask about how they got the names, it's like they tell the story differently each time. Like even the family members tell different stories, so when he's like watched Don't You Men Who's Go? Like Chico was saying, well, I was called this because of that. Groucho got his name because he had a Groucho bag, a Tiedro and then other people saying, always just a Groucho.
And then it was like, oh, because he played the harp. Again, he only started playing the harp when he started doing movies. Was it too? Yeah, just said that was one thing that I saw that it was like, harp all got his name because he played the harp.
That is now being debunked. And I was like, oh, okay. It's crazy. It's just like the mystery side would always keep people asking the questions and then you like, they were that clever then?
People keep asking the questions. We're going to be keeping the public eye. We're going to keep people's interest. Interesting when George said about harp or not speaking, when he read the story about how that happened, it's absolutely brilliant.
And the fact that it's based on a review he got that he said harp was mesmerizing until he opened his mouth and spoke. This is when he was on the planet. So he went from that deer. I am never speaking on a shore again and he used it as a bit.
And that just took over and he never spoke on screen once, from that moment. It's so amazing. I have read a different story. Of course.
Because who knows what version of the truth is out there? I told them the mother mini marks. She actually went to have different surnames. They wouldn't.
She used a different surname when she was managing them. She promised a theatre owner that they had a fresh act just to get them on stage. Because people didn't want to go to the work, they were going to bit stale. And they had to rush a completely new act because they couldn't do the same show that they'd be doing.
And apparently never wrote any lines to Harble. So he didn't say anything. But I'm still like, right, well, I'll rely on whatever else I can do physically. But again, my gopitro.
What that man can do physically is just outstanding. Like the physical comedy, like the theatre. Yeah, the physical, and you know what, when I was watching, I initially came on the screen and I went, oh my god, is this where, you know, Penn and Teller, is this where he gets his act from? Because it's like a lot of, not the physicality side, more the the expression outside is very on par, like, especially the no speaking, having to do a lot with the face.
But the scene in the bar, is it the bar where he's with the coins? Yeah. It got me when he walked up the table with the card and he just whipped the hatchet out. He'd be too happy.
Like, you know, only like that's where you go. That was so funny. And one of the big reasons why I did want to showcase the markers, or even just introduce the markers to like the Nerdio, not podcast, is just how talented these people are. And again, when we go back to classic Hollywood, because if you watch like an actor or an act now, they can, they normally got two skills or like they'll have a pretty face.
Like some, most of them can sing or have a performance like this. Back then, they had to do everything. They had to be like, as I said, if you wanted to be a celebrity, you had to have a presence and perform like musically, these people were so musically sounds like Chico played the piano, like no one has ever played and he self-taught. Oh my God.
And because the story about how he used to get sent, piano lessons, the only use to end up going one, seven, three, four weeks, because he was supposed to work a week, but he used to gamble away and he saw every three weeks, he probably lost, so he didn't go to the piano lesson. That sounds alright. But like I said, Harpo learned how to play the harp himself and he became such an accomplished harpist, they flew him across as part of, like, to build relations with Russia. So he was actually one of the few American performers.
No harp, this is where he comes like an actor, hero for me. And this is the story I was going to tell before. I was going to leave another class, Ecoflorna Russia to perform, like, out of me, like not the hair, like just as Harpo and the harp. Yeah, just Harp.
Once he was there, the US thing strapped government secrets to his legs and flew him back. So he says, he never, because his son was any reason, his father said he never knew what was strapped on his leg, but he said he would do anything for his country. It could have been killed by the Russians, taking secrets from Russia to America during his performance. So he was actually a spy guy as well, for the country.
He's almost sounds like a plot for the film. It sounds like a project, just like, we're going to take these things to your legs and just like, wow. Maybe that's like a really good time to introduce people to the actual brothers themselves. I actually have a list of their real names and obviously their, so I'm so sorry, my knowledge was really run into a college.
That's right. If you can't say it, it's black and white, so the green is in the first place. That's last. And so we, first off, we have Leonard Joseph Chico Marx, who was born on March 22nd, 1887.
Which is weird, because you wouldn't think Chico was the oldest. No, you wouldn't. I would, honestly, if you had to ask his, and I didn't know I was sick, Rachel, definitely, but he's not. It's such a good, he was, obviously, as Paul mentioned, he was a piano, he was the oldest of the Marx brothers, and I actually know where he's buried as well, because this really interested me, because with them being such a close-knit family, I assumed they would have a plot.
They don't. Right. They kind of, it's read all of this. And he's buried for us on Memorial Park in California.
Right. And next one is Arthur, half-horse Marx, who, by the way, was originally born. Adolf. Adolf Marx.
He was changed to Arthur later on, and half-horse is the half-horse, he's the second oldest Marx brother. He was born on November 23rd, 1980. It's literally a year later, and Chico gets his little brother. He died on September 28th, 1964, and he's cremated, and his ashes were scattered, and out of the brothers who were still alive, who was Groucho and Gummel and Zepal, it is this Brooklyn, as a family.
Like his death absolutely broke them. And I watch an interview with Groucho's son, today, who's that he never got over it. Yeah, he said it was the only time he said his dad cry. It was the funeral.
Was that. Uh-huh. And then we come on too, who I would, I'd say like the main man himself, but it's only just because of his presence, like in how like, you know, he's very frontal with when it comes to, especially when I've watched anyway. He's been a love listening, Julius Henry, Groucho and Box.
Did you know, though, he was the most, like I would, because if you've seen any of the marks, it was a no a lot of people want, but he would be the one that you would say is the most confident. They're like, nothing. But he wasn't, it was the most insecure. It was like, terrified.
He never had, he never thought they were going to make it. It was Chico, he was pushing them all along. It was Chico, he was optimistic one. So it was like kind of the big enough, which is- I could see the perfect Gumbel.
Yeah, absolutely. Um, so he was born on October 2nd, 1980, and he died on August 19th, 1977. He, it's all, Groucho did the films, but then Groucho goes up and has a career in television, and does a game show, very successful game show, until it goes to another station, and then it goes to T Gromor, Markz. He was a Vaudevillian performer, and he was the theatrical agent as well.
He's kind of what helps Zebo get into that side of it. And he was born October 23rd. She's got a time, Mrs. Markz.
And this is the second baby to be born in October 1st, October 23rd, 1892, and he died on April 21st, 1977. He's the fifth Markz brother, and he is actually a four-hour memorial park. And then the final one is Herbert Manfred Zebo Markz. And the Manfred is in honor of the first actual Markz brother.
The eldest Markz who died as an infant. He died as a baby, yeah. And he carries that name with him. It was Manny, that was the name for him, but he was born February 25th, 19 or 1, died in November 30th, 1979.
He is the youngest of them, the last survivor, obviously, until when he did. He actually left him, was it during the MGM? Did you say earlier? I think with the love Paramount.
With the love Paramount. And then he went into agency side of it, just like he's Brother Gromor. Because Paramount, I think with Paramount, they were called the four Markz brothers. And then when they went to MGM, it was the Markz brothers.
The Markz brothers, yeah. He was permitted in his ashes with burial deity. But I generally thought just how, because they do come across by close knit, they've worked together their whole entire lives. And I was like, surely they would be all together?
But not really, because if you spend your whole life with someone, what would I want to do? Do you want to do with them in debt? I get that. That's just where my brain calls to.
We'd have had a Markz and Mosaleum, we could all visit and pay homage. I bet there is one somewhere. I bet there is where they're from. I didn't actually look into that part.
I was in my way, the hometown is or something. I found as well their parents, who were both immigrants who moved to America and New York, also had nicknames. The dad's nickname was Frenchie. He was Dermot.
Wow. Their mother Mini was to German name, I forgot, but it wasn't Mini, but people called her Mini. So I thought that they all had nicknames. Yeah.
And that this was their identity, that the dad was like a tailor, but people just called him Frenchie. Yeah. Well, that's right. Because as you said with the nicknames, but they've all got a look as well.
I couldn't say them, they're unmistakable. You would think when Groutshaw doesn't have his touch, because I know people probably don't want to say it. If you look closely, that's not a real touch on Groutshaw. No, that is.
It's shoe polished. And again, he purposely did that because when he walked around the street, he didn't have a pair on, not many people recognize them. Yeah. And the eyebrows as well, just to break the illusion.
And not real. And I was shoe polished. It was surreal to see him later on in life when he did actually grow when he was on Moustache. And I was like, wow, you are so different.
What really got me about Groutshaw was the walk. That walk. And his face is so undeniably recognizable. The silhouette is so, you know, it's iconic, but that walk.
I was in. So when he walks into that room with film at all, sitting on the chair, and he's just the way he walks in, I'm like, I need to learn how to do that. Because that is just brilliant. It's so chaplain that it's like elevated to like a thousand.
Like, that is, I appreciated that. Yeah. I'll just have one of my last things I picked up before we saw getting in the movie. Because I'm really interested, like, as we talked before, like the he had just like side of like how he got into it.
Like, I know we had a brief little conversation about to learn a bit more about that. But the last thing I'll do on this point, what I thought like, because we're movies are made now. It's so like the process is completely different to what it was then. And what I heard today, just sounds brilliant.
Because one thing you will notice when you're watching these movies and you think it's all time and it's all, like how they're supposed to be just playing off each other and like going off there. But how the timing is so tight and stuff, what they did before these movies came out of the film, the movies, the spent six months going around comedy shows, performing scenes, to see what worked and what didn't work. And the thing that got right for the time as well is when they're doing a joke in the crowd, they would have someone backstage and time, how long they would laugh. So the crowd would laugh.
So when they'd perform the movie, because they didn't have like the people laughing on the movie, like because it's stage and stuff, they would tell the joke and have someone say a time and say that the audience would stop laughing now. And then they would go into the next thing. So that's why a lot of the jokes aren't just like rapid fire on top of each other. It gives time to breathe.
And for that type of dedication, and especially going back to say like say 1932, to have that announced and no while to do that then, fucking hell. That's just and blew my mind. I found that out. It's crazy, but it's very, I think you have to understand vaudeville to because that's like, that is kind of like something vaudeville you can actually do.
Like I'm really impressed by that. I am. I'm very impressed. Part of what I love about how they how they deep movies was just thinking that they were the first people to be doing these things like, you know, what are the movies in 1932 and to put something like this together?
I mean, you can see the scenes, you can see the cracks in the process. It's not the best put together movie, but I was like, they nailed a format. That's the store around, you know, that they hit on something so good. Yeah, they said about the one bit in the movie that kind of got me a little bit disjointed was the scene with Elmatog, the edited side of it.
The saw poorly put together. The cuts are poor. But this version is a movie that's been cleaned up. So you do have no idea.
And there's also a part of it that I'm missing. So you have no idea who's done that edit inside of it, because it's very, it's very. It was horrible with the action. Cut.
Because, as I said, this is something's like, kind of first foray into not like, not to hear in the marks, but I kind of learned about them. But I know yours, I experienced a little bit of the same. So I would like just to find out a bit about your background with the marks, but it was a lot. Sure.
So this was actually, I'll tell you about the story. In my parents' bedroom, where I really went because it was, you know, not very much. My dad had a postcard on his wardrobe. It was just like, it was like the decorator.
I don't know what he called it, the first bit on the wardrobe. Whatever. I went to the postcard. For years, it was there.
It never knew what it was. I asked him about once, and he was like, oh, it's a scene from, it's a scene from Night at the Opera. And I was like, what's that? And it was, it's the postcard was the scene where he was piling in the room on the ship.
No. I know what it is. And it was like, the postcard was just all these people crammed into this scene. And I was like, what is it?
And he was like, right, I'm going to show you this movie. Sit down, son. Like, the movies would always be on Christmas time, and he tries best to tape them. And I think we had like, we had on tape, and that could be the opera, and like half of the day at the races.
And he absolutely loved watching that movie. And then when Christmas time came around, they put on TV, like they put on War on Hardy during the daytime viewing. And sometimes I put the marks on, and they'd be like, oh, the go west's coming on, Joel, we're going to watch this. And he gets so excited to watch these movies.
And I watch it, and they were like, they were great. When DVD starts making a thing. And I learned how to buy things in the shop, because I was old enough. I was like, I'm a dad, there's David E for Christmas.
And he could watch it, where we went. I think I bought Animal Crackers. Animal Crackers is a good one. And we watched that.
And he was like, I think he said he'd never seen it. So we watched it together for the first time. And I was like, this was a nice moment. I think we'll have really good things.
My dad's usually a piece of shit, Sammy. So I think it's more of him. I'm not thinking more of him. I'm actually thinking of more of you.
And the jest is your maiden. Oh, no. It was a sweet thing that we shared. I mean, it's starting to appreciate the movies as well.
But I think it was very much, it wasn't those things. It's starting to appreciate them for what they are, technically. Yeah. And, you know, I do remember just like Christmas is just sitting in the room watching movies with me, dad.
He loved Black and White stuff, especially West End, I think you mentioned earlier, Paul. That was my friend. I mean, at some point, this journey. Oh, yeah.
My friend, I was a huge, it loved his Westerns and martial art movies. Oh, right. Yeah. A lot of martial art movies.
And that was fun watching all the dubs by Zorvus. It's interesting, again, watching the back. I know you can't re-career to do anything like the same. I would be a mierz and now to see the Marx Brothers in modern beer movies and how that would have been direct.
I know it would be a completely different concept and stuff, but these guys, as I said before, the talent is so strong. It'd be hard to not see them as some kind of ideas. Probably not on, I'd say, a movie site, but on the stage, I would have just been blown away seeing these guys on stage. I think that's where they would have probably come alive the most.
But 35 and a 10, we haven't really talked about the movie that much. This is kind of experience, which is great. We have not. Because I feel like, especially someone, like someone who's used to guys revisiting this and I'm learning about it, it's going to be difficult to not want to talk about the whole thing.
Yeah, they're such fascinating people. Yes. I think I couldn't tell you what is, I've seen it at the Opera a lot. I couldn't tell you what is characters in the name.
It's like, no, what gradual. Any of them are called in the movie. And that's okay. That's not what's important about this as well.
No, I was totally fine with just knowing that I was looking there. Because I've got that. I've got my notes in one of them as the plot and it's like seeing names in there. And I'm like, who the fuck is that?
I can't go back. Okay, that's Chico. That's Chico's name. Okay, I get that.
You know, for all the so many interesting things about these people, the movie facts not a great deal, but there was one that really caught my eye. Shelly Temple. Little Shelly Temple. The actress came to set.
With her parents because she wanted to, you know, she was curious and went to come and said, and she did and Harper Pucks apparently went up to her parents and offered to adopt to the child and offer them $50,000 for the child. I will buy her. I wanted the child. Yep, so Harper was trying to adopt children who probably had more money than they did.
Chico was actually in a car accident and shattered his knee cap. So there's a lot of times you can see him limping through this movie. And the board scene, fell in a todge and and grouch your mark. It's just her fault.
They fell out of the board and she kept crying for help. And he just went, okay, and swam away and not realizing she actually couldn't swim. So the crew members had to come and rescue her. And during the board ride, grouch your does say the lie.
Was that you or the duck? Because if it was you, I'm going to finish this ride with the duck. I can't see it. And if you look carefully after Miss Bailey falls over the board, you can see the grouch your does in fact, finish the ride with the duck.
So that was the only fact that I found and the only last thing I've got is about the female actress in this, but I'll get to that later. Oh yeah, I wouldn't point the story. You know what, it's just, this is a huge like, it's not, I'll get it all later. Yeah, it's a simple one thing that I know Lee's probably, I think he's dead.
He didn't sleep last night. So he's not in the chat. Um, because Lee's famously hates musicals, like he's never a big musical fan. Yeah.
And this isn't and this isn't a musical, well, in the description, it's because of the music comedy, there's music in it, but it's not all the way through. No, when they do sing the songs, Jesus Christ, I hope I'm catching. When you, your message is, and you're like, I'm so interested to hear what you think of the music. And I went, okay.
I didn't know what to expect from that. And then the minute you start singing, I'm against it. I went, oh, okay, I can't wait to make that song has not left me all week. I said, I went, you said I've been singing all week earlier.
And I was like, no, I, I went back in, sorry, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They sing, they each sing a verse of a song through, through, yeah. So I read somewhere that that was apparently a song that they had on one of their stage. So I was like, throw back to that.
But I was, I was new, Harper played the harp, but I can't really remember seeing Chico play the piano. Right. Um, so I was like, I want to know if that was real or if it was like someone else's hands, and he's just kind of looking all that. And like, not only fucking everyone's playing at piano, he was playing at piano.
And there was like, there's a moment where he's sitting next to the tell the thought. Then he's telling the thought, I'm not just touching that. No, no, I said it. And then I was like, no, no, no, I was that.
No, no, no, no, no. And he looks at already smiles, and the smile is like the most genuine, beautiful thing. And I was like, I was like, that's an artist. That is a man.
Like, I can't even describe it. But I was like, I've never seen so much. It looks so happy, so full of joy. And then just beaming out of him.
And I was like, I want to know if that's him playing the piano, I've got that has to be real. That was a magic, but there's an interview actually you did with the BBC. And I think I'm going to ask him all the questions. And at the end of the interview, they got on the piano.
So I think as I said at this time, I was just giving him stuff like that. So he was playing like that. And he just like, there was just a random orange on the side. And he picked up the orange and he was playing the piano with this.
And he'd start rolling the orange along the thing. And he was like, I'm just so nonchalant. And he's like, I'm looking at the present a look at the camera. And he just like, you know, when someone just owns the craft and knows that nobody can touch them.
It was kind of like, as you said there, that's the kind of impression and you get from it. It's just amazing. This is one of the things I talked with straight back because I remember watching that as a kid and being mesmerized with how he played the piano. I was like, you're watching piano players.
I think, oh, it's someone's playing music. But this is the first time someone made an instrument like a piano because he's like, oh guitar, you're also cool. He made the piano look like a cool instrument, if that makes sense. Yeah.
It was cool. It really did. And it's funny you're talking about like, oh, and he's craft because I felt like that when Groucho Fess comes on. And it's so it blows my mind to know that there's a lot of insecurities behind that voice.
But that's not what you see on screen. So that's the presence. The presence is the minute he walks on screen, he owns it all. You are not looking at anyone else, but even if it is his walk, but you are not looking at anyone else but him.
And he's too, he's too quick. Yeah, I would hate to be in the show. I would hate to be in an argument with them because you aren't getting a word in. Can you imagine trying to hattle him?
Oh, well, you watch the game show. Some people trying to contest this, trying to combat it, but I have a bit of a pattern for it. And he reaps them apart. Yeah.
He's like, the huddle of cuts away to say is cut that out because they couldn't use it, but anyone who tried to riff with them, he was like, oh, okay, let's clear this game. And it's like, oh shit, just shut up now. Stop it, please. And I think we've learned through time and experience that comedians really are the saddest people.
And Groucho, you know, he had his bounce of sadness. So I was watching a documentary today about his depression, but it was, it was, it was, it came from his son. So this is like his son's point of view, but he said he was the best dad. Yeah.
The best dad. He had three kids and two to one woman, one tree's third wife. And he absolutely adored his kids, especially his last little girl. I can't remember what I mean, it's now what he just absolutely adored his children, but his wife is really sent into the present into the bottom.
And Groucho liked these women young, but not, but not. We're not getting the word. Oh God, what's the word I'm looking for? They weren't.
They were legal. And like, they were the age of concept. Yes, that's it. It was a chaplain woman by any stretch.
But you know, it's all for example, he's 65. His third wife is 26. Right. So it's a lean order to cut your.
Yes, there you go. Yes. That's right. Yeah.
That's a good way of looking at it. I don't want to give the impression that Groucho marks is like a Charlie Chaplin. And if you know Charlie Chaplin, then you know what I mean. Yeah.
No, you know what you call what he would. What do you want? What do you want? What do you want?
No, what do you want to just go after his own and then? Step forward. I got the children. I got the children.
Um, it's interesting that you talk about the presents because when you look at Groucho marks, because there's a few, there's very few comedians, I would say, that has the same kind of presence as Groucho marks. And Phoebe's named them in the chat earlier. Eric Mortem is probably John Cleese. Again, I know a different type of comedy.
I can't go. But they have the same type of presence. Well, when they're on screen, they draw the attention. And even like when they're doing the performance, because there's lines and stuff where they're kind of trying not to laugh and trying not to break character and stuff like that.
And that must be in a nightmare on the set with these. Because you can see all these people around just trying not to break. And I think it's like almost like a challenge for like Groucho or Harp or even Chigorh to try and break people's reactions and stuff. Because especially Chigorh is so deadpan with his response.
Like the scene, I think I put the video out on TikTok, I got nearly 10,000 views, which was amazing. With him and Groucho, I got the door and Groucho got the door and it's a password. It's a fish and it's a sturgeon. No.
I can't remember what it is now. I would say go and watch this movie. But all the other Mark's Brothers movies are available to watch on YouTube. Except for this one.
Yeah. So you really have to go and find it. But please, I, you know, employ you go and find this movie. Because that scene was so funny with the password.
That whole thing of the speaking is what I always said a bit with the hatchet when he slums the colour. But him going around when he brings the phone and he tries to like play it like a slot machine. And then he comes come out with it anyway. He's putting his hat and he opens his mouth and you see them all find his mouth and he starts spitting them out goony style.
Like when they're like mouth stealing from the goony. I take when he's the guy who's busy. He's must have spent his week wages putting in the slot machine and he walks up to take the button off and puts it in and he wins as well. And he's just getting like that kind of like looking stupidly.
But I was going to try and say can we describe the plot? Because the plot is very vague. I do have a plot here where I can quickly go over it. Professor Quincy Adams-White-Stuff is a new president of Huxley College and he's convinced by it's all to do with the football game by the way.
And he's convinced by his son Frank student at the college to recruit a professional football player at Helc Huxley. Huxley is losing with the football team. Iceman who is Chico. delivers ice and bootlegger from the local speakers.
Oh, this is just explaining the people. Anyways, yeah, the climax of the film where ESPN lists one of the first of his top 11 scenes in football movie history. Oh my God, I didn't know that. Why is that in my plot novels?
And I'd say that the actual football game is hilarious. Like I didn't even read a literally copied and fazed the plot. So I had like an outline and it actually sees the climax of the film, which ESPN listed as the first in its top 11 scenes in football movie history includes the fourth track and it's winning the football game by successfully performing a version of the hidden ball trip. And then it's far in the window, touched down in a horse drawn.
It's the heart always a dog catcher isn't it? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what game that ref was watching. It's the one I've got the giggles.
But what he touches, he does the ball on the string. Oh, it's like frozen. It's like we've all run over that if I was back to it. He's like, isn't it crazy that like the three of us nearly in tears or a movie that came out in 1932.
Yeah, if it's funny, it's funny. It was real. Because again, it was very head of its time. I think that's a lot of things.