Nerdy Up North Podcast - The Mummy

So, hey nerds and everyone, it's weird what me doing this instead of something. So, hey everyone, welcome to the Nerdy Up North podcast, the Nerdy podcast hosted by Northern Earth. I'm one of your horse Paul and the other horse is busy working to the Earth, so we are joined by three other nerds that are well known and well versed in the Nerdy Up North community. We have a podcast and regular shall we say now, like a part of the team, the lovely Jessica, and we have Daddy Discord himself, the deviant, the rogue icon who busy melts the hearts of many nerd boys out there and like say men want to be and women want to have them, especially if you're called a little Jess.

There's a look there. And we have the number one fan, she's got it there so far, I can't take it away from her just yet. Beth who was basically watched every single stream, everything that we've done for the last year, we can't get fucking rid of her. So yes.

So say hi guys. Hi everyone. Yes. So, this episode today is a bit of a mid-year special.

We thought we would throw it in just with like me having a lot of spare time and basically wanting to get a few extra bits of content out there. Now we've for the last two weeks, we did have a few vaults. Last week's vort one and it was Lee's Choice of Demolition Man. This week we did have another vort and the mummy won by a fucking landslide.

I don't think any other films got close to it. I can't even remember. I wanted the turtles which we're doing on Friday. I think that was the closest second but like say it wasn't even in the ballpark there.

And I think when we put the advertisement out that we were going to do an episode on the mummy, I'd never seen anyone hit my DM so quickly as Jessica. And she was in there like say I need to be on this episode. It wasn't just saying can I be on this episode. It was like I need to be on this episode.

It was to the point where I was like I can't say no to this. I would be this little bit bad guy in the world if I did. But no. So yes Jessica is joining us to do that.

And like say Beth put a request to be on this one last week as well because she wanted to be on the X-Men because she is an X-Men fan but unfortunately our card was filled for that episode. And it was a good episode. So go back and watch it if you haven't. Jessica wasn't that one.

You might not risk the recognizer in that episode. She was dressed up, she'll put this all the shame as Rogue. But yes. So before we start and get into like the nitty gritty of the movie as well, I'll do a semi-shally.

How are you guys? How are you today? I'm OK. So it's all about a semi-dessert as well.

So it's not just a semi-sour. It's the question, semi-not us. Right. So I'll get the disclaimer out the way because a semi keeps popping up on this on the Sunday night episode.

I don't know why. She wrote this and she memorized it for so long. Basically she can't get the words out for some reason. So everything discussed today and tonight's episode, well today's episode, our opinions and our opinions alone.

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Yes, the deviance. What's the sex talks just to me and good will to be fair? It is getting comfortable at times. I'm not going to lie.

It's like, how far are these guys going to take it until they actually get a room? And we know when you get good will in a room, you can be quite frisky as well. So, it's always to be wary of, I think Sam will be offended if you get on the necklace before him. Because I know he's got him before her, sorry.

Because he's got me and Jake on there. There's always for another punch, yes. So, the mummy. So, why did you guys want to come on this episode for the mummy?

So, we'll start with Jessica first. One of the all-time greatest movies. Right. It's not a thing.

One moment in this film is just perfect from start to finish. It gives you everything. I think it makes everyone a question, especially like every character. You probably would.

And many people's dreams probably have as well. I do agree there. I always build this as a sexiest movie from the 90s that has a PG written. The one before this was probably cruel intentions, but I think that was a 15, not a PG.

I don't know. I could be wrong there. But cruel intentions has got different for different reasons and all the right reasons as well. But yes, I agree with the mummy.

It was a bit of a landmark, shall we see it when it first came out? It wasn't expected what we got. Like a lot of at the time, unknown actors, shall we see it? Shall we see it when this?

And after this movie came out, they became very well known after this. It was kind of the making of a lot of people's careers. What about you, Lee? What drew you towards the mummy and it wasn't Brendan Fraser been all Indiana Jones-esque?

I mean Brendan Fraser is amazing. But this is a perfect film. It's just got everything. It's got action, adventure.

It has no stupid 3D scorpion versions of the rock. It's got comedy. It's got horror. And most importantly, it's got no 3D CGI stupid versions of the scorpion rock.

So you've got problems with the rock in this. Well, the rock was in the same. We'll talk about it a little bit later on there. The first film was perfect.

So that's two people now described it as the perfect movie. So that's interesting as well. Let's be honest, there wasn't all perfect movies in the 90s. The only perfect movies that was ever made was the Goonies and Used It All Wrong.

So Beth, what drew you towards this movie? Again, I love it. Like Justin's, Lee was saying it's a perfect movie. But I love mythology and Egyptian mythology was at the stage of my life.

Where I was a hobby, I was obsessed with it. I still am. So when it comes to the mythology part of it, I'll be honest, the post-my mythology stops and ends at Agatha Christie. Or was it at least Pearl Row?

Sorry. He's investigating the death on the Nile and stuff like that. But was the mythology on point or was it close or did it straight too far away from the myths and legends that were of the theros? I think a bit of both.

I think it needed a bit more of mythology in it. Right. Are we still good? Right.

I think it's been the actual facts and the legends and just brought give us a bit of tits and ass as well at the same time. I missed quite a lot of facts from Egyptian history. Yes. There's not one Book of the Dead.

Books didn't exist until the Roman Empire. Right. It was all just the Pyros scrolls. And rich people used to buy something called the Book of the Dead, which had spells.

It basically just guide on a journey into the afterlife. Right. And gives you names of people you're going to meet and tell to get past them. Like the Wean of the Heart and People of the Garden doors.

There's hundreds of books of the dead. There's one in the London, uh, British Museum. Have you been trying to resurrect some of these now, Lee? That's why you're like, say the comic book.

No, no. On the Book of the Dead. But, um, what kind of any class that has a book? So I know what, like, say it's what happened to the pages and stuff, but it wasn't made appear.

In the movie, it was more, I don't know what, what kind of, what you're saying? It was a different type of material. It's kind of like, it's in the film. I think it's meant to be like a form of like slate.

Definitely school. I mean, obviously the old parody is a little bit strange because it would have weighed an absolute pun. And by the way, that is not. I guess we're going to bring something from it.

Made up goals. Yes. That's always not where they could have been running with that. I don't know.

Brendan Fraser was quite an anti-op there. He could have lifted anything at that time. Oh, yes. The look and the feel of this movie was head and shoulders, anything that we had at the time.

I know this was late 1990s, was 1999, I believe this got released. When it first released, I'll be honest, I didn't see it at the pictures. I went, I think I saw it on like DVD or even like, like a skive release for the movie to come out. Because I, when I think when the trailers hit, I wasn't that excited about it.

Because there'd been a lot of like field action movies where action stars have tried to come in and do certain things. And it wasn't billed as the classic Universal Horrors one as well. That always surprised me. Because when you look at like all the ones that are trying to remake now and the amirs and effort they tried with Tom Cruise.

I can't get to the same place. The Tom Cruise effort, they tried to reboot the money, the mega dark universe that we got that we almost got. I'm surprised they didn't do more with the Universal Horrors side of this. When it first came out, it just steered as the money and they didn't really go off track too much with it.

It nearly happened from Steven Summers. I think when he did the first one, this was the aspect he was going to go on to do the dark universe. First thing he did was a huge success. Because we don't have anything else.

We want to see calls. Give us more. Re-creatable. He did the first movie.

I mean, later on he did go on and do run housing. That's a Steven Summers as well. So it's clearly received some of the huge love of trying to reunite Universal Monsters. I think not the right time.

I don't think any of that's when people watch for the movie. I don't think anybody would say, I want to see Frankly next. I'd say more Brendan Fraser. I would see more of the cast.

Back to doing this again. I could see Brendan Fraser being the football point almost like the Van Helsing type role in the universe. If they wanted to go down that route. The single wasn't bad.

It just wasn't the money. It was pretty much the exact same film. It just doled in a slightly different way. The relationships moved on.

But it was basically the retelling of the same movie again. Just with Naxim and I hope I said it right. But I would have probably preferred to see the aspects again personally. It would have been maybe not go to like the big ones like state like the mummy.

As a kid wasn't one of the big horror ones that you would always grab it towards towards or it would be front and sign Dracula Wolfman. So if they've done almost like the Avengers, I know we're talking about the Avengers again on last episode on the X-Men like a pro or two. So start with the mummy moving on to say maybe Brendan Fraser is on a boat going down the Amazon and comes across this fish like person that again could have been quite interesting where he is getting. He's conducted installing by the creature of the black lagoon and writes itself.

It's it makes that universe and makes you want to see it a little bit more and make sure that we didn't get that aspect to it as well. But we've got what we got. We got three sequels and a prequel. The Mummy 3 was a choice.

Having Jet League as a mummy. I didn't quite like that. I did like the Mummy 2 with the kids aspect. I thought that was quite fun.

Normally I don't like kids and movies. The Scorpion King, well it's set us on the path with the rock show, we say it was a starting point. That's probably the best I can see it with that movie. with that movie.

But this one is close to perfect as you could get as entertainment, but wise, it did have all the different elements and aspects that you've kind of won from an action movie with elements of horror in there. I know we had a little bit of a debate where Lee just went, no, this is not a horror movie. It is in which it is. But if you look at the scary thought, like Imhotep itself when he's gone through the transformation and he's taken all the parts of the Americans, like the eyes, the tongue, and then just leaving the shell of the body and stuff, that is fucking nightmare for all of the people who are in the world.

I don't think it actually shows you the process in the first world, does it? I think the first time you see them draining someone's life out of them is in the second one in the dream card? That's the thing going... Yeah, you're going to see the first one is the after effects.

You see one guy in a shadow, but on the wall is he's raised him up, but the rest of them it is just after he's done it. You'll see what exactly he did, these little scribble bodies left over. But isn't that... It still works without seeing it.

It's like, oh my shit. But isn't it the Michael Myers effect as well? It's the stuff that you don't see or the thing that you can imagine that makes things worse. If you don't tell us why Michael Myers is evil, your thought process is trying to work out why he's evil and why he does the things he does, and that's more scary than actually seeing the fact that...

I don't think he's that evil. What, Mike Myers? No, no, no, in my attempt. In my attempt, just Tony.

You kind of came in. On the first of the day, you've told a post on about who's the most misunderstood film. Right? And I can't remember who I commented, but after watching this again, it tips my tricks for the most misunderstood film.

If you see it from his point of view, it's just a romance story, really. It's trying to get your girlfriend back. The weirdest bit of... Let's have a look at people's theories and trivia to do the film.

And the weirdest one of all the theorizations I've seen in the sense of image actors being horny, never comes into this sort of thing. You know he goes to kiss Adele in the bed and his face starts to like come apart and it's the only time you really see it happen. And someone's theory wants to say it's not fully recreated yet. He has a limited amount of skin to cover himself.

I know I was just going here. Where was he calling the skin from? What area of his body was growing to need skin? I can swim.

Lee, do you want to answer this question? Hell, that's... Oh yeah, just because I got this one. To be fair though, if you lost that much of skin, you must have had a decent size.

So we'll give him these shoes. And he would, like I said, knock some of them and went to the dark side for him sort. But I guess not like, oh we're through this minute, like the looks and the actual feel of the movie is amazing. Like the start where they're in the temple and Naximamoon walks in and it's just absolutely beautiful and she's just like literally perfection walking through that door.

And how to tell the story, like the voice of a narrative I've seen, like no one's about the toucher and the way they find out she's being touched because her pants and arms being smudged and stuff. I didn't quite get to the Golden Gods things. I always thought that was a bit bizarre. Like why would you paint yourself gold for a human being, to worship just didn't always appeal to her?

But I didn't even like the instance in that, in the sentence of Naximamoon that it was a celibacy thing. Again, for them to paint the smudge it to show that he had done. But wasn't like if he was celibate as a man named his, then the dista castrate you typing, the dista chop off the bits. So you, you.

I've had to work out the very own solid in the way. Yes. So who would you fear? Like I know we're going to get the copies of a lot of the amount to say, but who would you fear of a character is in the movie?

Well, that's what else goes first. Come on Beth. I feel like I feel like every other. We all know your mama's fear because she said Ben and Fraser's very shaggy about just before we went online.

So hi, guys, ma'am. So yes. Watching in as well. But yes.

So Beth, who was your favourite? Evelyn. Evelyn. Okay.

Yeah. Sexily and why? I've got reasons why I like Evelyn, but probably different from yours. I might get to see him.

I think it's because for me she was like an original nerd girl. Right. Yeah. She didn't get that much attention because she knew her stuff and with having a woman, she got bombed off.

Our woman should know this. Yeah. Like Steve, stay in the library. Don't leave the library.

You're not allowed to go on excursions and stuff like that. Or you're wrong and stuff like that. Yeah. Interesting.

Take that Ben Bridge dollars. I've seen Evelyn pissed. Was one of the funniest thing in the scene. I'd seen her getting all artsy and like defensive and stuff.

Then I'm going to kiss you. Then form like, I thought like that point she was going to throw up. That would have been my say type of humor. I would have probably stuck it too.

But the fact that she just passed out was quite sweet and Brendan Fraser looked after it. That little buttoned romance did blossom. It was one of those on-screen romances as well, where you wish it was real and you wanted to go on after the screen. Because you could see them too.

I ended up being happy and living happily out of after as well. What about you? Lee? What was your favourite character?

Probably R'da B. What was there? He's probably the greatest hero of this movie. I mean I know Rick does finish the job but he doesn't really put much effort into it.

The final fight that takes you to the end. It's just, oops, it's over. But R'da sacrifices himself basically. And he was originally supposed to die.

Alright. But I don't know if it was a director or something. I was like, we can't kill him. He's like, what did he roll?

It was. I was like, I just can't kill you off. I like it. You got to survive this.

He always seems to survive the movies. He's in it as well. I wonder if it is a like a biltly fact because I can resume evil and stuff as well. He doesn't get killed off in their movies as well.

He's six. He does die when the third film. Alright. Is there a Carlos?

I think the movie is. He's Carlos. He's killed me by the kill. He might not have been thinking about it.

But this is his first film as well. He was only in like two TV special or something as well before this. Oh my. So wow, like he really pulled this off.

Lee dropped this. I was like, son of a snot. My god, what here? It's here, it's magnificent.

As a man, that is very full of the challenge. Actually, a lot of the hair in this film is very jealous. I love it when you see you're getting to juice the Brendan Fizzes character when he's in jail. And he's got like the wild man, like, almost like George of the jungle, jungle type look coming out with the cage.

And then like, see, you're meant to think he's this type of uncouth monster and stuff like that. But then when you see him, when the Lord up to go towards and you got, I can't remember the thumbnail, the little chubby guys. Or medullae. Or medullae, that's the one.

Yeah. It's hidden like this track in here for a little bit. And then you just see this god in clothing, walking towards the screen. And actually everyone, I think as well as Evie just instantly falls in love with Brendan Fraser.

And just thinks that that is the man that actually could save you in any situation in any which way you want as well. And as Jessica said, yes, he probably would show up a little bit as well. Well, no, mine was not even like the main character in it was Benny. I actually just found him every scene he was in.

He was absolutely hilarious. And he kind of lit up the screen as well. He brought that element of just comedy and like, like, what every little like piece type of film needs. But he does it in a way that just brought absolute joy.

Like that scene when he's going through all the different religious symbols to try and save himself is absolutely hilarious. And it just shows you like the intelligence, even though he's like a straight rat scumbag. He's just as clever as O'Connor to basically get the track and get that there. But how hilarious he was, like in certain things and like some of the best lines in it as well as between Benny and O'Connor, like that whole thing.

Say, O'Connor, we've got all the horses and then O' O'Connor's with replies, well Benny, you're on the wrong side of the river. And then just to say his fearsome reaction to when he kicks off and he knows he's got a busy, it's got like even though he's got the horses, it's going to put him back to try and get back across the river. And he got his come up and say, even though like, say he wasn't the nice guy or like the good guy, he was just the regular guy who was just trying to get by. But he got his come up and because he couldn't leave the goals behind and he got trapped in there as well.

So that was always a little bit sad. But what would you say? Is that really easier for the life because of that? Because he ended up on that camel with all that gold.

See, it wasn't that stupid that he got that he made out as well. And what, like, going back to the horror element to this movie as well, what would you say is the scariest moment in this movie? Because it does have like a little bit quite freaky parts. I'll give you a little bit of a jump.

Because there's one bit that does give me, like it can probably make us uncomfortable. Is how much jalebi, when the scariob goes on these skin and you see it going through his chest and he's trying to get it out and it's just, it makes us itchy just thinking about it. I have an amazing footage right here about this. Right.

And where in the film? You're in that scene. He exposes himself in the movie. All right.

And once I've seen it, you cannot see it that it happens. Right. So it's sort of adamant that it would be true to the costume and he's not wearing anything into his trousers. It wouldn't happen.

So it's just going to work in this moment where he's pulling the toe off and he's trying to catch it. When he goes down his leg, it's not pops out of his trousers like it pops back in. But it apparently kept happening on every tear. He had to keep telling him like, you're exporting yourself.

He's like, it's true to the costume. No, I found that up to the beard. Listen to me, like Jonathan's when he's gone at the arm and he's screaming. It's like, when's they're going to get there in time to get it out?

Because you've seen what happens. Yeah. That one was quite intense. When you're not going to make it out with the ends, when he goes all the way.

Yeah. And you kind of wait for Jonathan to die as well. Because his character in like all type of movies, like the comedy sidekick, the lovable robe type thing, you know, he's like, if they've got to kill one of them off, he is the one that they would kill off. So you think that is going to be like, say, the death nail.

So you, but I think why I didn't fall for like the like the, the switching beat with it is because we've already seen that death. So if it was a different death, yes, I could have seen Jonathan being killed. But the fact that we've already seen someone die that way, it was always going to be, like, especially with like, say, economy and they're being the macho superhero ears and just pulled out the knife and whips it out and just chops off. But what we want to say there, Lee, as well, you would, like, just admit thought.

Sorry, I was just saying that that Omejullale scene, I found out that the other day as well. And afterwards, I did have to say it bicks, if you go on the computer, just ignore me search history. You can imagine the weird thing that I have to type into Google to see that scene. Omejullale's dick pick from The Mummy.

Basically, yeah. I'd say it goes back. There's probably, well, there is a website that tells you every single negative flash in the movie history as well. So I have to check to make sure that's on there.

Like, if not, we'll get you to write in with your report. You can be the nerd correspondent to that website. But yeah, so what about you guys? Like, I don't mean, Jess has mentioned I was scariest little moments there.

What about moments did you find quite like, are you scary in the Mummy? I've never been scared of it, but the bit that gives me the egg is discover beetle. Not just can't bugs to begin with. I just didn't like it.

Yeah, made you feel uncomfortable. I couldn't sit down for a little bit afterwards, thinking that something like, on your leg, maybe something like already. Scariops, yeah, that seems like you guys are terrifying. What about the start as well when Inwood chap gets put into the casket when you see him in the full Mummy garden, you think, oh, that looks great.

And then the pole, the CGI scariops. And again, watching it back now, it gives us a lot of questions to think of like, why didn't the scariops without climbing over and around? Why didn't I just crawl out the pots, like, with that, violent and stuff like that. And then they got pulled into the casket and just stayed in there, just running over it, was it the fewer hunger?

I've eaten the flesh of him, I've had stuff like that. Not included in the movie. There's only a couple of them actually in the casket. It's not like when the casket opens, like, this big, like, mound of them falls out.

So they must have gone in out since they're filming the pyramid. Or when they're dating to death. So what was it? It's called the Hondai or something like that?

Yeah, it's like the punishment. Yeah, so he's not dead the whole time while he's in that casket. That part of that is he is living forever by living off those scarops. They also regenerate and eat him, so they live forever and it's all part of some spell.

All right. So it's just a circle of life things. We just, for all eternity, eaten and being eaten. And again, I'm going to break your heart here as well, because I think I just don't get an understanding for this movie as well.

Because when you think about it, it makes no sense at all. I know we tried about the movie, movie, I got to come back to the dead and make it. But this guy, Yemo-Tep, caused a great, done the worst eating worst and created the worst thing that could happen at that time, like the Trades Emperor. So what they did, they gave him this curse, but it's part of the curse.

If he was alive, it'd become the most strongest being ever known to man. Why would you do that to someone who's done something so wrong? Why would you give him that power? Because we needed a thought device to have the lead.

Exactly. That does. But when you think about it as a sensible human being, like this guy is a bad guy. Like we wouldn't do it to do it to like, like, like say, that's all that.

We wouldn't do it with Hitler. We wouldn't say Hitler is the worst, I trust he's the man. Let's put him in, give him a punishment, but part of the punishment is he's a curse, and if he's revived, he'll come back and be the most powerful monster, like, part two. So we're in the tip, doing the same thing.

That to me, just, I fry the brain. As a young kid, I didn't think about it now. As an adult, I'm watching it back and saying, why would you make such a stupid mistake? That's why I just didn't write the alphabet.

Why would you send both of us for each other? Like, we go, put two more sentences. It's because it makes good storytelling and good violence and good cinema, I guess. As Sammy always keeps telling us, movie magic as well.

And all we talked about, like, said elements of, the bigger universe that we could have had and stuff like that. Other, like, big vibes I got from this movie as well. And again, just watching it back recently, I didn't realize it back in the time. I've got big King Kong vibes for some reason.

Like, the whole, like, say, going on the paddleboards and, like, taking something away from, like, a sacred zone and taking it back to, like, one, like, humanity and stuff and, like, the punishment and the reactions for it. And I didn't realize, like, like, say, like, probably all the hot big monster movies or big things have these, like, like, innovations where I got a lot of King Kong vibes from this movie, but I wasn't expecting them. Don't know if anyone else thought that. I think it was something that was set in a very similar time as well.

You weren't going to be the first one to be on the other in the early 1920s. So you're hitting the same sort of era, how do you reckon King Kong was going to see quite a lot of similarities and to how people would travel this quest for unearthing, the new greatest thing. It just kind of happened, yeah, there's actually no flopboards together. I'm going to be trying to protect, like, climbing the, um, I'm based it, building up.

That would have been interesting. I was saying, MSEP going full, but saying that, that could have been like the Mummy Five bringing back Imhotep to take on Manhattan. I was going to be like Jason, Jason for always style, having some kick punk, like in a fist fight, limits happening. Then MSEP taking that off and falling in a garbage pan, not doing an interesting take.

We'll say that though, Jason takes Manhattan as one of the better party in the third-end movies, going watch our guys. I didn't think I'll be talking about Friday the 13th on a Mummy episode though, but yeah. So what elements, like, as you said, because I think one of the big factors to this is the like ability of the characters, but the rewatchability of this movie as well, it doesn't seem to get boring because a lot of the movies, like if you're watching, went back over, is that down to the cast or is it just down to the subject? What do you think?

Pussy bit of both. Right. Because there are still people who love the mythology side to it and they will do to watch it. Hello, no.

What about you guys? It has sort of, you know, not only do you two of the same feelings watching Lord and Rings, it's this comfort. But the movie's not about walking. It's a second to it.

It's a bit of walking there. She's a lovely sort of cosy feeling when you settle into it. It's again why it's the perfect movie. The heroes win.

The monster that's taken out. The finding is really for me, the relationship built between Rick and Eevee. It's one of the best on-screen relationships. Yeah, that chemistry is magic.

He's never actually a damseling distress at any point. He knows exactly what he's doing. He knows when the time is to accept all along with and trust that Rick knows enough together in time. It's the same thing.

It's that Rick never all accepts him. You don't find him once learning. Awkwardly like stepping over and falling on through or anything like that. He has this full adoration and respected.

He knows way more than he'll ever know. Being happy to stand behind her, I've hosted a lot of point in him. And that bill of that relationship is quite ahead of its time for night, night, night. Like we're still not even getting these relationships now.

And it is like that's the fondness you get. It's like there's that perfect relationship that everyone would want the quality of two people or the accept each other from what they are and what we see them all from each other and be like each other. Yeah, 100% agree with you there as well because a lot of people when you look back at them on me they think Brendan Fraser and that is like the Sando part. But Rockwell White's, I'll never see any right.

She calls it all in this movie and she is like the movie wouldn't be the same if Evie wasn't like the Evie that we got in this movie as well. The Sando part as well is when like the cornered up against like see against the mountain and O'Connor's just got the gun pointing at them. No, it wasn't the mountain. It was outside of the temple or something when it got back to the down.

And Emo tips like what went towards him. He's got his full form back. He's basically killed all the Americans because all the Americans need to die always. But she kind of takes like the lead and says no.

This is what's going to happen for us to get out with this aspect. You know what to do and she puts that trust in that but she kind of like takes charge. And as you said other than a few other standouts like Ripley being won from that time, females was always the damsel in distress especially in these movies, these type of movies, these action movies as well because if you look at them, we had the Indiana Jones movies where we did have a strongish female presence but they were always rescued by India. They were always needed Indiana Jones.

Again going back to like that. So many action movies, they're either the damsel in distress or they could be I need no man. And it's like no, this is lovely one that it's kind of like I would like a man but also I had to have it all my own. It's lovely in that sense.

I think it's a much more relatable character. 100% and it's a thousand different girls called want to be. All of us want to be seen the way that she was seen in that movie. Yeah, it felt natural as well.

I think you know what I was. Oh 100%. I feel like it's quite progressive for like women in action movies as well, just this movie, even though we'll have had people like Ripley. Remember all the other things, Jennifer Lawrence, forgiveness of these female role models, they all stem from her.

Most women, women fights before this that I can even think of. It's always hair pulling, slapping and just a bit of a tussle. But going into the money returns, she has some of the best fight scenes out of any of those movies, expect when she's fighting a nooks on a moon, like in the past and in the future, those are some planet scenes. And she did all that work as well.

Is how come a mod dev did not recognise Evie as a reincarnation of the opportunity in the first film? How? Because I didn't have any of the first film. He might have had bad eyesight because the first person that he took was our car, who was the guy who was like, my glasses?

I can't even hear about that. I can't even hear about that. And then he talks about that. He's just in the very vision.

How many movies? Tommy talked like, whoa, over. I thought that time. Yeah, that sucks though.

Like I said, but yeah, I think that was just basically we need another plot device to get Evie more presence in the money returns. And it was kind of like, yeah, it's just a real clear notion of this person. I was like, oh, you didn't have to do that. But yeah, again, as was sequels that add stuff on that don't make sense if it was in the original.

But as you said, Racco holds on with anyone in these movies. And I don't think anyone else, and again, I know you could get like other actresses or actors in this role. But I don't think anyone else would have been as fun or as natural as Jessica put it. It was like, how a romance or relationship can start.

It said initial attraction by saying each other. So she makes reference to, oh, that kiss wasn't that good. Clearly, it ran some bells there for as well. But again, O'Connor does come across as a bit of a role, but he's never a dick in this as well.

I feel like her not being in the third movie kind of ruined that as well, because of the blossom, that chemistry between Brendan and whoever the other woman was. I can't remember. I haven't seen her for that long. And I'm not going to watch it.

It's your punishment, it's your penance. We're not the one you're going to watch it tonight. Yes. This one character in it that I like because it's not as it's nose explained.

When you get the character of Jonathan, he comes off as just obviously kind of that awkward sidekick to the movie. And it's not a lot of really history given to be Jonathan as other than these kind of once again, himself and shovel brother. But it's a funny one when you realize where the plot time is, Jonathan's being bought. Jonathan's a guy who's come back from all completely disenchanted.

It's why he is quite lackadaisical in everything that he's doing, that he's not too first. He liked to stay alive. But what's the point at this point? Very much like Winston, where he's just waiting for him.

It's an excellent adventure. Yeah, I don't even forgot all about Winston, but he was like, there was no wasted characters in this movie as well. I think each person had played the parts of the time and the place to end would have been that all British pilots or the British things just swung off every time in years in like an Egyptian place like that. So it was quite, I enjoyed Winston in this as well, even though it was a little bit of a sad ending.

The only thing, again, not the movie and I think I know it was 2019-99. I think with the sequels it got progressively worse. Because at the time, the CGI in this was quite revolutionary. It changed a lot of things, some for the good, some for the worst, I'll be honest, because like movies like The Mummy and Sea of Jurassic Park and other type big budget action movies where they used a lot of CGI, it kind of threw companies in the same, we don't need the practical effects anymore.

We can always just use the CGI elements and this one didn't overuse it, but I think it was probably one of the leaders in saying this is what you can do with CGI. It was definitely a landmark, wasn't it? I think it led to things like one of the greatest movies of all time, Lord of the Rings with the motion capture and stuff as well. I'll let you have that one.

Chris will be happy you said that. We've probably talked about the Molly as we speak with the one word. He's not a punch me one of these days. But yeah, the CGI, I think this is the first one I noticed big that was computer-generated effects, especially things like the jawbone when tap screams and you see him stretched out and he freaks out when he sees the cat as well.

That was not the greatest CGI. When you watch a back now, you think of if it used practical effects or used different elements, which probably would have cost more, it probably would stand the test of time a little bit better and a little bit stronger because with CGI, it is always improving, but the certain elements are certain things that you kind of wish the user didn't get too over-carried away with. Was that just me? I think there was some stuff at its time.

Yeah, if it could have been more practical, it would have been an impressive scene time. It would have come across in practical. Was it that thing in that late night and day 2000s, we kind of craved that weird CGI over the top that it didn't have to be still realistic in its way? Possibly keeps the movie slightly lighter as well, I think, the identical practical effects that it did in a much darker movie.

Some people wouldn't be that classic-e-g. Maybe wouldn't be as much of a hit because it is quite a child-friendly movie. There is nothing in it that you have to, like, open up for my kits and stuff, but I think we can get not to notice this scene. All of it is very safe across the board.

The ones who are just scaring enough for kids and struggling with the rattle. It's one of those films that every age range can get something from it. It's almost like the Simpsons in a way. There's jokes for the adults, there's jokes for the kids.

I think the best way I describe it is just a lot of fun. I know when I went to Florida, I don't know if the ride was the right one. The show was always one of the biggest cues to go on. In essence, it was like everything that you go in, it looks amazing and the day you're living to do.

But as a ride, it is basically just a roller coaster in the dark. I'll be honest with you, it is one of the scariest rides you'll ever go on, because literally they do have live fire above you as you go on through one of the tunnels. It feels so hot and a few people actually come off with Cinj Tear. It was that freaky and that scary.

Do they still have, when the cue is too long and people get on so the cue moves forward? Is there still people in the cue going more depth? They would have the sound effects around the cue. They've got people in outfit, stressors, the people who are protecting the mummy, protecting the secret of the mummy.

The cast members, they did the same with Skull Island. I love waiting in the cue for Skull Island, but the ride was over within 30 seconds. It was probably the most disappointing 30 seconds I've had since good will. But the actual ride, waiting in the cue for Skull Island, was amazing because you had all the village people dressed like it's the guests.

It was actually the actual village people. Like the basement, construction worker. That people, that would have been quite intense. That's the correct note there.

From the Blue Oyster come from the Place Academy and stuff's gone through that door. That might be the mistake I made. What's the Blue Oyster wasn't it? Possibly.

I've tried to go out the Place Academy movie, that was it. But the people with bones and the doors and stuff, standing little holes. And if you walk past the hall, they would pop their head out and shout with you and stuff like that. So the detail that they do go on, but the ride was over within 30 seconds.

It was weird to go on, so I was very pissed off at that one. But anyway, sorry back to the mummy. Would you say this? You couldn't re-nate the mummy now.

If you were going to, because Tom Cruise tried to do it and it didn't have the same impact. Well, it's a good new phrase for if the improv don't fix it. Would you do, if you were going to do a follow on or because a lot of the companies are not like the big franchise are not going to do a single TV short type thing. Would you do it in the mummy universe and would you say it would work or how would you feel about that?

They set it up for a sequel anyway, didn't that after the second one? Like, well, I don't think it was like, oh we're going to do a sequel. It was just like a little joke at the end where Jonathan goes to Mexico and he's like, I think there's no mummy here. I mean, like, look, taking up mummy's in some...

Caramel over there. There's always mummy's over there. But as we've talked before, I think if it didn't in the same type of universe, I know Ben and Fraser's on a bit of a comeback trail. I wouldn't mind seeing them come back as an all-door conner, like to say, guides his kid and all the time they were with the mummy three.

But this wouldn't be a franchise I would say is dead and could stay dead and buried. There's a lot of leg work that could go into it or a lot of stuff that, as you said, answers that wouldn't, that would be fun. I think if they were able to go back and revisit that particular series of mummy, it would be... it'd have to be something along the lines of what they've done with all sources.

It would be fanservice to a point, but it has to be fanservice that we actually want. So maybe I'm allowing Arthur Bader to come back and see where he's being, because he didn't sign up to the third film, and the act of the opinion was, if Emetech wasn't in it, why would I be in it? Like, I make your sense in this story now. Those little rebits back, and it would define on having Rich and Wise come back and actually return back for you.

I think that would be what I would win for to see her and bring Fraser back together again. Yeah. As a much older, seasoned, freaking idiot. Like an adventure, like in the retirement form, almost like Boba Horteft, like Elvis coming back with Avianair, and kind of just like, quite in the retirement form, having the mummy come back and tip.

So we've got the Scabble on the phone. Oh, Bruce Campbell. That's what we need more films with Bruce Campbell in as well. And it's a difficult one as well, because I actually said it is a much love franchise, even though the third one doesn't get talked about.

Like the Scorpion King is said in Hush Torns. That's a lot of the Scabble King. I love the Scorpion King. It's actually not bad, really.

They didn't okay, sorry, what we're going for. Obviously, the issues with Sea Giant did the second one. I don't know why. I don't know why that was the concept design.

Well, it was rushed. The finished CGI, the guy rushed in the only managed to get it eight days before the film was premiered. Wow. You can kind of tell.

I would say I've seen better CGI in actual WWE wrestling games at times as well. Like a rock. But yeah, so with makes of these type of reviews that we do now, we like to do give it a five. Lee started the ball last week.

We're giving Demolition Man 5 out of 5. He did give it 5 out of 5 in years, is that right? Yep. Yep.

Stand by that still. Yeah, definitely. That's good. So we're going back.

What would you give them on the other five? Definitely a five, because I really enjoyed it and I still do. So you can't pick any faults for the movie or anything that you would improve? No.

Maybe just add a bit more of the mythology side. I think we couldn't do that with the first one, but there's been really a more technology side, yes. Cool. Oh, you're Jessica.

What do you say? I think it's a solid five out of five. You get everything you want out of it. There's nothing really in the movie.

I think it's very rare. You get to see that as well about movies as well. There's nothing you would change. I like that though.

Because I think a lot of people go look into hard for things or problems in movies. Forget that movies are meant to be enjoyable and just make sure to take your mind off things and live that little bit of fantasy. But yes, what you really is this going to be across the board? I'm all around.

I'll be awkward and see a four point five because it's not the goonies. That is the only perfect movie shall we see it? Oh, there's a cat in the background. Sorry, I just saw the cat.

She's clearly saying that her son is going to go from one around the room. So she's just protecting him or keeping away from all these mummies that come in attack. Do you know we almost didn't have Brendan Fraser for this? Because he had to be resuscitated during the Hang and Seam.

Right. I think he was dead for like a minute or something. I think he kept asking for a more realistic or more realistic, let's tighten it and tighten it in the next case. It's a bit too far and almost a bit more sophisticated because thought you'd act and be well for the decision on the floor.

It's wild over in a freezer. There's a missed opportunity I think that was with him. It's defined he's going to be one of the biggest acting stars of the time. Unfortunately, the studio's looking for comedy.

Very quickly did doubt of this acting movie. Sensors are really the only proper acting movie you ever did. The rest were all pretty much comedies from him. But he was good as an acting star.

And it was a time when they were crying out for the next big action star as well. Though because they were looking to replace Arnie, they were looking to replace the lawn. That's why they were looking at the rockers and the next thing Jason Stase and Colleen. I think Brendan Fraser would have been a different type of action movie star.

But one that would have worked and one that would have I would have liked to see more. I don't know. There's a lot of backstory and a lot of things that went on. But if you look back to the 90s and the films that Brendan Fraser was in, he didn't make a bad film.

No, he was huge at his time. He really was. He was Hollywood's main guy to come to. He wanted a good movie.

He went to Brendan Fraser. And he has always had solid movies across the board. I think it's always interesting to use that lovely person to get a lot into his work. Definitely.

And a genuine nice guy as well. And you see that there will be actually gets now. And it's lovely to see. And the time he does have for his fans.

So he's one of these people that you want good things for and you're kind of root for. And the time when Hollywood and everything is bad and everything is just basically falling around people and you're here. Stories about heroes being complete assholes or bellends or monsters at the scary side of things. But he kind of is a pillar.

Like there's not many of them out there. Like I think Kim and Keanu Reeves is the two people you've got to protect at all courts. Robin Williams. He always wanted to protect at all costs.

He's also just an absolutely lovely person through. See if I have a mic down to be what I want him to act like Frank. I know he won't ever be that guy. But if he doesn't act like Frank, I'll be good at it.

I don't know why don't you see in the background of a pillow and Frank on the bed. He's making sure he doesn't shit the bed. So yes, any other factoids of things that you want to add? Not a fact, but did anybody else think that that was Billy's name?

Billy's name? I love his joke about people thinking that Billy's name and honestly I'm the same person. And why can't they be like, oh look it's an attempt like it's not a Billy's name. It's not the same guy.