So bye. Hi everyone and welcome to the Nadiio Knoll podcast. Isn't Nadi podcast and it's hosted by Northern Durds. I am your host, Paul.
I'm the host Paul and we are joined this evening by the lovely Grant. We were meant to have lovely, another member of lovely Charlotte, but unfortunately she's a bit under the weather. So hopefully you get well soon, Charlotte, and we'll be sending people up as compensation pictures of your feet here and there. So don't worry.
That's a tough one. That's a dependence for Miss and the other. Go to the host. I love my feet.
There you go. Good will. I'm going to hold this off of that. Donna, quick, quick, quick, take a picture, Donna.
Screenshot it. Yes. Before we start, I might as well get this out of the way for some twats birthday. I don't even touch up to celebrate Ginger's birthday as it should be banned.
But happy birthday, good will. You look good for 49. You're doing well there, sir. Oh, happy birthday, good will.
We do love you. Don't listen to what you've got to see. I'm going to pass the sperm, mate. Oh, gosh.
It's not going to be like, come on. It's not going to be like, come on. No, no, no. The sticky banders are back.
No. So before we get into this week's episode, I'm going to have to ask you the question. It's got to be done. I am going to be persistent with this.
So how are you doing? How's your week being? What are you being watching? I'll let go.
I'm not thinking. If not consistent. I'll let go and take a charge. With the exception of the new episode of Criminal Rights, I'm pretty much watching binge watching document, reason stuff.
I've watched World War II stuff. I've watched a lot of Netflix explain documentaries and history 101. I've definitely been on more of a knowledge kick than an entertainment kick. I think I've just been kind of going through, I've got loads of them.
Whether or not they're ancient Greece, I've just had a documentary on the background. Learning. Oh, but they're knowledgeable friends. I love that.
I do like that stuff. There's quite interesting shows on the history channel and discovery. I've been watching every song and we're way left last night. We'll go to and turn the TV and the first thing I'll start seeing is good.
Yes. So hit the head of a secret army. This is Christmas. We're talking about Hitler.
Not today. Not today. Not today. Yeah.
It's like all Kanye West guys. I'm still obsessed with the worst you'll have ever seen in your life. The Trampters. It's like Cringe Bad TV.
It's not as bad as Love Island or anything like that. It's basically like imagine being 12, I think it's like 14 people. Three people get chosen to be trampters. But they're just not celebrities, but one of the people.
Like someone says, I want to be a presenter. Someone was like an extra on a TV show and stuff. And it's the win 120,000. But if you can find all the traders out and at the end, you share the money.
But each night you've got to vote someone out. But you don't know who's the trader and who's not a trader. And if you don't get the trader at the end of the night, they get a murder. So once they get sent home, but it's like the going on, I can't play assholes like the crying and stuff like they're being best friends for years.
But they've only been in the house with each other for seven days. It's so awfully bad. And like see this as well. And just like a late 40s, but it's just so conniving and stuff like that.
It's what I didn't watch, but I wish I didn't like it because it's fucking awful. Oh, I told you to stand out in the summer. I unfortunately watched Love Island. I'll never ever do it again.
I did it because my best friend said, I'll watch down if you watch a series of Love Island. And I stupidly agreed. And I never kept my end of the bargain until this year. And only did I get addicted to it.
He got addicted to it. Every 99 o'clock we would sit down and watch Love Island. Honestly, 10 weeks of my life gone. So I will not be doing that again for how totally understand it.
Sorry. The only other thing I've been obsessed with. I watch it every season that comes out and it's just start again. So I'm over the moon again.
It's an American. It's American show this time, but it's kind of like reality cross-train real. But it's on the Discovery China channel. It's called moon shiners.
It's where these yortles in that would cut things in America, like a brewing on like liquor and stuff like that. And like sounds amiss and what to do. But doing it like the woods where it's illegal and stuff. But the God master fucking film through building around and other hide in the day.
And so it's the police coming and you've got like a film crew with them. And you're like fuck off mine. Oh, and they went and sold about their shit. But it is entertaining.
But it's like one of those reality documentary things where it's actual people doing it. It's like on a facade of a reality show. So it's just like say these people in it though. They're just back with in that area.
So moon discovery channel. But there's about 70, 70 eight seasons of it. But basically everyone just wears dungarees and raccoon penises on the hats. You've watched some random shit, man.
I'm just looking at the set of a collecting dick. I'm going to watch that. I'm going to build all the dicks. No, it's an old fashioned triit where you know when the moonshan comes out there, I got to it's being filtered and everything starts coming out.
You've got to put a raccoon's penis in there to help the floor. Look at all this. It's genuinely a genuine attention. I totally believe it.
I totally believe it. I'm not having that on the Google search. I'll find it for you. I'll set you some stuff.
Well, I'll watch that probably is now my most favorite Christmas film. I absolutely adore it. Me and Antwatch Krampus on Wednesday. And I had such a fucking ride through that film.
It was so much fun. I've never laughed so much at Andridinjibis. The dolls at the end, the presents that opened up, I could not stop laughing. I was doubled over in playing at laughing at them.
I honestly thought it was the funnest thing I'd seen in a long time. I really enjoyed it. So that was my favorite Christmas film. No, I absolutely loved the Krampus as one way.
Watch it the other week as well. I know D.F. Denney is a member in the group. He goes to all the cons in America.
He's actually got the life size models. They got to be first. Am I a Spooky Empire or something like that? Oh, yeah.
He got the actual life size things. He's posted pictures on the other day. I was like, do you like it? Honestly, I've never ever been interested in it at all.
And I don't know why. I just, I didn't expect it to be funny. The minute I saw like, what is his name from Parks and Rec? And I was like, I don't see him as a horror actor.
Tony Klette, absolutely. And then Packer from the office, if you're any office fans out there, the guy from Antaman who plays the sports guy. Then he's on it. And I'm like, oh, okay.
This is not what I was expecting at all. And it was just, it was just so much fun. I really enjoyed it. It was a very nice midweek pick me up.
It is very much just a horror version of National Opunes Christmas Vacation. I've never seen that film. Oh, fucking hell. Another film to add to the list there.
Yeah, I have never seen National Opunes Christmas Vacation. I don't like Chibi Chis. I've never been a fan of them. Not even like after like people had like, you became problematic and everything.
I just was not a fan. Even in like the Three Amigos, even it was not my favorite of me goal. It was not my favorite of me goal. It's enough to be a favorite.
But again, that's another podcast for another day. Yeah, let's do this week's podcast. So I'll do the disclaimer and then we'll get into it. So everything discussing today's episode is our opinions and our opinions along and if you'd like to discuss anything from today's episode, putting these comments on the Facebook group or where we can have an open discussion.
What we want to have is anyone coming up for us and tell us our opinions around. We can all agree to the screen and find them. So it's kind of fun to kind and keep the toxic behavior out of notism. I heard it there.
I heard the poshness getting more and more as I went on. I kind of liked it though. Sorry to open it. Next week Sam was going to be doing it in an Irish accent.
accent. It's my accent according to someone at work. So, since it's even last time you should do it with a whip in your hand. You can see if I've got one in the round.
Keep it kind. It sounds like your name is Miss Whittlash for Christmas. Oh, my gosh. So, before we move on to that life, we'll add it.
Yes, this week's episode we are talking about the Christmas Halloween map. That is a nightmare before Christmas. I know it's a weird one because this one has kind of exploded, I would say, over the last 15, 20 years. 20 years.
It's not just a movie. It's a fucking lifestyle. It's the only, I was trying to think the day that it's not a movie of a generation. It's an absolute lifestyle.
Like people build their whole aesthetic around this movie. That was the best way I could. Honestly, I've thought all day about how to describe this film and that was the only thing I could come up with. And probably just like in a previous episode we did.
It should have been the number one picks up. It is, in essence, one of the biggest cult classics that has and maybe come for a long time for how it started out. Yeah. I remember the advertising campaign confused me a lot when I was a kid because you saw the posters and everything.
And as we found out, I forgot all about this, but watching the movies I made was to do that. It was made by Disney, but Disney didn't know how to produce it. So, they moved it to the company Touchstone because I thought it was too adult for kids, which in a way it is. Yeah.
But, like I said, that's my first time. Because I was thought was a lot older than it is, but it was 1994, I believe. Yeah. And that's without me checking, 9485.
Oh, hang on, I thought we could pick her up. It was 93. It was actually on the, we think on the day we've got 93. Yeah, 93.
94 was the era when the comp, the end date. No, because I was remembering, like, it's one of them films that you think I think were the style and stop-motion. Because since that, and we've had a few, but not as many, but like, stop-motion was quite big in the eighties, and we could see with the clash of the Titans and Simbad and similar type of effects. Well, this, like, when they made the full movie that same way, I was intrigued.
I didn't actually see other pictures because I think the cinema run it got. It was very short. It was only out for like a couple of weeks because it bombed big styles. Like, I made it money back in the US, I think, over here, it didn't do well at all.
I can't imagine it landing here, and people getting it. I generally cannot remember how the name ever came, like, a part of our lives. Because for me and my family, it's, it was everything. We named our dogs after characters from the films we had Jack and Sally.
I just can't remember when I was, when I was gripped with it, but I know that I was, and I passed it on to my sister, and I will be remiss if I didn't see it. Michaela is probably a bigger fan than I am. Mm-hmm. She's younger than you, so would have been definitely in her childhood.
So this would have been one of like the first things I could pick up on VHS, or if it was a little bit like the TV copies. It's one of their movies I've had from VHS, DVD, Blu-ray, and I think I've got him 4K. I don't think I've got 4K ever at least now, but actually I'm not going to do it. Oh, I just, I just, I just, I couldn't, I always used to pick one.
I was like, I found it first. But Michaela has such a, it's only recently she's given that collection up because she lives in a very small house and it was taken up a lot of space. And I said, just bring it to mind. You can't, like, you can't get rid of stuff like that.
These are pieces that you'll not find. Or if you do, they're being updated to now and it's kind of like lost a little bit. So, yeah. What about your grand, when did you make the discovery?
I think I discovered quite late in life, like on person. I wasn't really aware of that before Christmas when I was a kid. I think the first time I watched it was probably in my early twenties. When, you know, you're talking about the aesthetic and that kind of stuff.
I think a hell of a lot of kind of the rock and goth community in the early 2000s were the ones that ended up given this exposure and the first generation to build the aesthetic out of it. You know, the transition from new metal to the trendy rock. Yeah. That was totally amazing.
Look at the imagery in it. You know, there's a lot of stripes. There's a lot of two torn. You know, it's very, very indicative of the way that the emails used to dress.
Yeah. I'm sure you were one back in the first one. I went from the new metal pears of like baggy jeans and limpest skitt hoodies to then the gothlock and the burnt nest and then I went into this transition into. I'm like looking at some of my belts because I have a lot of belts from when I was back in them days and I can see me more belts all night.
I can see the transition in my belts. It's one of them things. With this type of movie as well, it resonates because it is a bit like a bit like a feeling like an outsider as well, which is a lot of like, like a common trait. Like a lot of the movies we do kind of like a lot of reasons because it's not having something missing or like looking for something.
That's like, that is pretty much Jack's story that like in this, like he's got like a potentially, he's perfect life and he should be happy, but it's like, doesn't always work like that. And it's like looking for that long and fine. But that's like the deepness. I'll see a sex joke and a bit guys don't worry.
Yeah. You'll leave people uncomfortable. Yes. But next thing from doing, because this is one one that I didn't want to look stupid on as well.
So I did a little bit research. I watched the movie again. And I watched as I said the episode, the movie is that I watched that when I first came out thinking about not last year before. It was quite an eye on it.
When you think about how like what this film went when they were getting made and how nobody had any confidence in the movie as well. Like I said, Disney produced a Disney because Tim Burton was an artist working for Disney originally, but he was too weird and too out there. So the kind of shit kind of moved him on and actually put he found connections and stuff like that. This one was after Edward Cesarhand.
I think this came out after Edward Cesarhand. I believe so. Again, I actually try and go on a knowledge here so it might be made myself look like a fool. I don't think you will be.
You absolutely right. It came out in 1990. Yes. So this was like his idea because he always kept this idea around but Disney actually owned his idea with him, weren't it?
Because Disney being the corporate Goliath's. If you're working for Disney and you have an idea, they own the idea. So it was kind of like he had to go back and hand to basically try and get this idea and they didn't know what I was doing. So they let him basically call.
But I was so as I said, when this got Martin and got released, even on the via chest, nothing gets said Tim Burton's a nightmare before Christmas. I see a Tim Burton film, Tim Burton directed Tim Burton wrote and wrote. No, he didn't have that much to do with it actually. He basically created the characters.
Like everything that put everything in the movie, the songs, the storyboards, the direction. He had zero input because he was working on Batman Returns at the time. So his vision was passed over so I was the director. Now I get the name right.
So it was Henry Selleck. Selleck. No. Henry Selleck.
Selleck. So Tim and Bessie Dani Elfman and Dani Elfman's girlfriend at the time, I can't remember her name with the three people that basically formed the story because Dani Elfman just got to run on the demon. Right. And the music will be basically never wrote a musical before.
So he's kind of like, let's just have fun. And there's a lot of shit that went afterwards because he wanted to voice Jack throughout, but it said he didn't have the right voice. So I couldn't act. I think that was it.
So it was kind of like that kind of fallen out. But it was basically Henry Selleck and Dani Elfman's girlfriend at the time. It's a Caroline Thompson. That's right.
She basically caught everything about Sally was based on her. So that's she was basically flushed out and gave Sally like, is like, Sally at the original point was didn't have any part. Well, I had a part, but not as big a part or role. Because you're honest, that's the hard part in the film.
Like say, it's the whole Sally and I said, that's why I go, but watching that was so enlightening as well. And again, it didn't make as angry with Tim Burton, but I've made this feel he got a lot of credit that he didn't quite deserve as much as well. Yeah, a little bit cheap. And doesn't know this.
I don't know. You feel that when I learned that fact, and I think I kind of knew it was a Burton film, but he put somebody else directed it. But he did. I always assumed he had something more to do with it because to me, it looks very similar to Vincent and I know he did that Vincent is his.
And when I watched the movies, I was like, shook, really shook, especially like Danny Elton as well. That man is just super forgiven. I super forgiven. He's such a love.
I would have been somewhere. Yeah, such a talent that Bloque as well. Like for everything he did. And like imagine being thrown in the deep end as well and not having any knowledge or like I don't have any musical knowledge.
He was a singer for what was it called band called? I can't remember that. Ango Bongo, wasn't it? Yes.
So that was like the band he was like a lead singer for, but he had no like, because I think the first time he got asked to do was again, it was his hand to write the score for. So he just started to pay and it was what's it ever says and I don't know. Again, I'm going off track there. Sorry.
But yeah, like I said, to basically have the balls in the conference to go right. I'm going to create this musical and the music and it's so catchy. There's like, there's not a bad track in the movie. So everything always keeps you entertained.
And I'm going to head before we start with a little bit of a metal version of one of the tracks as well. And it's there's been so many covers or so many different changes and so much different variations to them all work. And because they are like actually one of them jingles, one of them they head as well. They'll fucking stay there.
We'll be home. We'll be home for the next fortnight constantly. But this asks a question before we do start talking about like the film as a whole. What's your favorite song in the film?
I'll just roll straight off the choice. I love it. It's all dirty and grittian stuff. I was singing it earlier.
And if you actually talk it though, it's so fucking sinister. Like really, no, I'm not doing it now. You've let it now. You've opened yourself up now.
Nobody needs to be put through that torture. But it is very sinister song. And the guy who sings it, I can't remember his name, but it's just that he's fucking velvet. It just rolls off.
I love that song. And then close second with here comes Mr. Sandy Claus. I just love that song.
That's it. Yes. Your grand. I'm going to tell you the opportunity to show off one of me.
I'll just give you guys a little bit of your time. Look at this. My boy right here. How pretty is this?
You're going to describe it, Granda. People who listen to this. Oh, that is beautiful. It's the orange vinyl of the soundtrack.
Indeed, it is. And it's an absolutely wonderful piece of plastic. A brand favorite piece of plastic in the house. I know you're a collector of vinyl as well.
I know you're like saying no a lot. Because we're the different colours and stuff. I'm not a little too much. I know there's only certain numbers available for them.
So is that one of the ones where there's only a certain amount of me? I believe this was one of 500. I would need to double check the website. I'm going to go and put it somewhere safe.
Absolutely. I'm going to do this giant fucking moron of a dog. I'm glad you thought that was. I'm glad you thought that was because that is not something that I would think of.
You might miss them when I got up as well. I'm talking about yesterday. I'm going to do a little bit of the bookie shot. What do you like?
The dressing gowns back. I get down right it is. It's a good job. It's a good job.
It's not on tonight as well. She would have sort of a new box of tricks that you can't miss. You can't miss. You can't miss.
You're looking at them get on here. Sorry, can't we get on here? We'll be here soon. One episode.
I think we'll probably be Jackson and I'm always a fan of like, Satsong's musicals. Because they might be a surprise for some people that actually love musical theatre. And I think that's a sad song and musical has to really, really kind of get in the art. You know what I mean?
I think that comment really does that. And it's done quite early as well. I think it's what the second, maybe the third song that gets sung. I think it's a beautifully set to the tone visually as well.
But yeah, as far as just as long as it's concerned. Definitely Jackson. I think it's funny that people who listen to hard music love musical theatre as well. Like a fucking love musical theatre.
But then I can like listen to some of the hardest of going. And I don't know if it's just really like a fucking storytelling. Like I don't know the explanation for it. I think it's very, very appreciate music.
That's more than anything else. It's not like if you can get the aesthetics and like what it takes to produce this type of stuff. You can kind of appreciate it more. Because musical theatre is so much different to recording an album type thing.
There's a lot of things you can think of, like a non-ciation and stuff like that. We'll be fucked with. I don't know if they've ever done a Northern Day or a live version of something before. Well, I feel like I've had to do some metal versions of some of the night now before Christmas songs.
I'm really sure you haven't already to be fair. One of our newer tracks. Because another thing with just in relation to the music is a huge influence on Adam, who's the guitarist in the band. And one of the new tracks is on the massive album album, The Work and Fight.
The Nightmare Before Shredmus. Wow. The music is just wonderful and is a goddamn genius. All hail Danny Ellsman.
Oh, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's the simplest one. This is Halloween at the start. Just because I love how like a teacher on the journey, as he said, it's probably the most musical theatre song in that other than, what's this, what's this, but that's more just Jack what you get. Like a full tour of all the characters and stuff.
But we are like it as well, because we're not being kind of find like things to put on like the pre-lord and stuff to do. The amount of colours and variations of this is Halloween on the internet is just crazy. There's like, couldn't be Western versions, metal versions, love song versions. Like literally everything like a version, like acoustic, I'll appear like I can see it.
I believe I was trying to say a couple of that stuff. Oh, yeah. It's one of them. It's universally a works in any different format you put it in.
Because there's some songs where you listen to a button and go, oh, that sounds shit. Go back to the original type thing. But it's always nice to discover a new version. Like, other than that, like I said, the O.G.
Boggie song is amazing. I love the, like the soul, like the soul and the blues riffs in it as well. It is very like, it sounds like a glass of weight, like dirty whiskey with a cigar, small broom and stuff. It's that open line.
It's that well, well, well, it's just a little bit. If you can continue singing it in that style, it sounds sinister as fuck. It really does. But I do love the opening song.
And this is Halloween. And I hate to admit this, but I really do like Marl the Manson version of it. And I do really don't like to admit that. But I, yeah, I just, I don't know.
There's something sort of theatrical about his version that I just, I really, really enjoy. Yeah, like the music, you just don't like the person that's fine. Yes, I've learned the music very far. That's fine.
It's not a problem. But I don't know. I would be scared to wonder how many times I've seen this movie. I know there's so many different versions of it that's been out as well.
I know that it was Danny Elfman. I've done an acoustic run, not too long ago where they performed the music, but like on the big screen. I've been told that I have to make this point. I went to see that show in 2019 in Glasgow.
And it was a full orchestra. It was Danny Elfman, Catherine O'Hara. Great. What's his face from Whose Line is it anyway?
He's actually one of his back-and-singers. And he was part of the Lockstalk and Barrel. It totally blew me mind. I was a guy who originally sang a movie and I was there.
And obviously Danny Elfman watching Catherine O'Hara sing Sally's song. I pulled my eyes out. Absolutely. She was dressed.
She looked like my Rose. She was dressed very black and white. So to me that wasn't a mess. That was why Rose sang it in front of us.
And she sang Sally's song. And we came to December 2019 to Glasgow. And it was one of the most magical nights ever. It was something I just did off of this.
A bit of a moment. The seats were not great. But I did not give a shit. We could see.
We were literally sitting on top of the stage. And it was just fantastic. We came to that tonight. But Kayla said the one thing I had to mention was that night.
And how amazing Catherine O'Hara was. It was magical. But he did have the film was on in the background. And violinist came out and did the back of the score.
You can continuously hear. And she did this whole piece. She was based around that. And it was just, he was talking fantastic.
Honestly, Danny is actually Danny. Excuse me. I'm telling you that. He's still touring that too.
Obviously Catherine O'Hara is not the guy he goes on to with them. I don't know if this is right. The West Ball. And he's actually one of these guitarists now.
So if you ever get a chance, even if it's a shit seat, it doesn't matter. You need to experience being in a room with him and his music. I think the closest way you've had it in the North East wise, I think, was the stage. I think it was the performance at the stage.
Again, I could be remaking this shit. I'm just trying to go off memory here. But no, that was one of the ones I missed. But I did go on the demand chest a little bit.
I did go to one of the anniversary shorts where they had to sing along. So it was kind of the words on the screen and everyone was kind of singing along. It was fun, but it was too many kids in my life. And so I was like, these kids are really annoying.
I just enjoyed the film now. That was the best part of where we were sitting because we were in the gods. It was actually, and people were moving down. If a seat became available, they were moving down with.
But because they were thinking it was, because we were at the top, we were literally on top of the stage. So we had the perfect view of the August threat of them, of the monitors. It was just perfect. It didn't cost me that much money.
One of the things, I remember getting tickets to work and thinking of front door tickets where we ended up being underneath the stage. You can't even say that. It was like, this is the biggest mistake I've ever made. But yes, like, I remember watching this like so many times.
So many times. It's not one of them films where you kind of find something new or there's a little like hidden things in there. It's just there for pure of wholesome and strange for us to say, just entertaining value. It's a really great feel good movie from, and it is simple storytelling.
There's nothing really too complex going on. But I think the complexity comes with the characters. I think that's the best thing because each of the characters are so well grounded and even have the one that the person has done so well. Even the side characters are thought out perfectly.
I love the me. I think the me as anything in as well. And how like Newrody can do, like the two faces of Happy and Joy. And this kind of thing sets them off and go from the highs and the lows.
Even the mad signers do trap Sally. Like if I've got the thinking sign or think of something left. That's something like that. I'll find out.
I've got some new features. You know that. I didn't know because only like you only do that when you go like salt the dogs. I was like, I realized he brings it there a while.
Keep on granary sort of. Oh, I can't find his name. Oh, no. No.
No. Oh, yeah. Finkles time. Finkles time.
I thought it was like a riff on Frankenstein. But I even like to say, because when you're looking through as well, you're looking for like the villain or the bad guy. I know like Oogie Boogie is meant to be like the villain of the piece, but he's not really too bad. He's just wants to eat Santa Boas, which.
And he's fucking terrified Jack. He's actually scared Jack. This skeleton. He's a skeleton.
He's a big Oogie Boogie. And he's scared of Jack Skellington. I love it. Another question I want to throw at you as well.
Because my favorite characters have changed like probably through the ages and like how I've aged and stuff like that. Who is your favorite character or characters in this? Go on Gran. Take it away.
Sorry. That was sort of. Yeah, absolutely. I mentioned briefly there before about, you know, how effective you've got to be when you're portraying sadness and what have you when it comes to musicals and making sure that you're setting the tone with the characters songs and you can't put anything to randomly out there.
Because you know, the songs are sculpting the, um, the right way that personality is. So, you know, Sally gets a lot of very, very sad numbers, but I like the imagery with Sally as well. You know, the girl that's been, um, stitched together. You can, you can take so many different kind of meanings from that.
You know, you know, the way that people kind of changes you go through life and it's almost like you're getting a new bit stitched on you and all that kind of thing. I think she's probably the character with more depth and that's why I enjoy it so much. I love the fact that she's not broken. Exactly.
Not broken. She, because of the fact that she does so herself back together. So kind of me is like, she won't allow herself to be that broken person. She will always stitch herself back up again.
And yeah, I love that aspect of Sally. What are you, Sam? Oh, God, there's so many. And I think he's always been a big one for us.
I've started to find a lot of love for the mayor. And just because of how dramatic he is, I feel like we are. Hundreds of people. Yeah, I love what the drama and I love, love something about.
And I love it even more there. When I found out that Paul Rubens is one of the voices fucking lost my dovers. And Catherine O'Hara as well. I just, there's so many.
But I must say the ones that I really love is steadily to look at is the Van Pagins. Right, yes. They don't do a lot. But I just steadily to look at them and I'm like, oh, you are a goth fantasy.
The very old-scale look as well. Yeah, I love it. No. As I said, probably down in the years of changing watching the film and praising it differently.
I went through a stage when I first saw it, loving their aesthetics, loving their face, my presence. I was obsessed with growing Jack for years. I would always like trying to sketch out Jack's face and different aspects. But I said, then I went on to loving Oge Boogie just because everyone loves the bad guy.
I love the colors. But that's always, that's always a thing. It's always a contentious part because it's a green when it's got the UV light on, when it's not. It's like a brown.
So I confused because all advertising has got Oge Boogie and bright green and stuff like that. When this is all bringing out like figures and toys and the merchandise, it was always kind of in my kind of like a dark ground. So I was like, I don't want the shit colored Oge Boogie. I want the fluorescent green one.
Yeah. It was always so hard to find. But as you said, now I'm like, say, obviously, I'm so locked, it's not going to be around. I just think they're entertaining as fuck.
Like, so they literally just, if I could dress up like them as Halloween gets to other people, I would be sore. I would do it. I would fucking do it in a heartbeat. We got it.
We sold it. And Miss McMeister is, like I said, she's been a huge fan for many, many years and she has gone on a mask collection. And I think it was probably this and Russian dolls were the only two things that she kind of like would, this is what she would buy. And we went America quite a long run up and so she had the opportunity to buy pieces that you wouldn't necessarily get over here.
For about 10, 15 years, she wore a watch that she got from somewhere in America. And it had the face of Jackson. It was literally just a white watch, a jack in the middle and just fucking arms. The amount of batteries that she went through because she and straps because she absolutely refused to break with this watch.
She sleeps with a big massive jack skeleton head still to this year. But I got all about that. I got all about that collection. One of them is a jewelry box and it's the bathtub and it's lock stock and barrel on the top.
Right. So, I'm just as she's had that for about 10, 10, 15 years, possibly a bit longer. I've only just seen it in the Disney store recently. So that's a good little segue as well.
We'll come back to the movie at like the end of it. But one of the things I really want to talk about now, we have touched on elements is the merchandise with this. Because I know a lot of films do have merchandise and stuff, but I've never experienced merchandise. Just this sheer amount of varieties you get from things.
It's not just t-shirts and mugs. It's literally everything that you could get like jewelry boxes, figures. I had like to say a pop of coffin. I saw that years ago, which I didn't, where it was just like a coffin shift and you pressed a button and the doors open and jacks stood up.
I remember getting it from travel man years ago. And as I said, it's literally now. You can't go anywhere, especially when it's Halloween season. Like literally everything is like I said with a night, maybe before Christmas.
But watch our background out sure as well. The toys, the movies that made us. This movie probably would have died and not been as relevant to the year if it wasn't for Japan. Because Japan kept this really big, like for some reason it was massive in Japan, not just for the film wise, but for the merchandise stuff.
If you want to go and like see like if you've never forced Christmas stuff, apparently they've got some of the craziest things you'll ever see, but they're almost unbelievable. Nightmare before Christmas stuff. Oh my gosh, I'm going in like one time, probably three years time. That's unspersed if I'm going in Japan.
I did not know because I think I'm going to Japan because he lost anime. No, I can say it. I'm going because I'm going to go on the 100 Nightmare before Christmas stuff. I've already done loads of like old toy collectives shops there as well.
And it's just filled to the brim with all night, night, Christmas stuff. It was mainly just crazy being marked in the middle over there. But I was going to say he's got the toys as well. I've got like say Jack and Sally behind us.
I've got the diamond figures out the box. The phone goes and stuff like that. But all the different things that kind of came out. I remember when I went to Florida and we went around the Halloween season as well.
So I was expecting it to be literally inundated with Nightmare before Christmas stuff. And it kind of wasn't in a way. Not even like, only in certain areas. Oh, that's so sad.
So if you went to Hollywood Disney, the Tower of Terror, that had literally all had like some of the most amazing Nightmare before Christmas stuff that I've literally never seen before. So literally I was getting credit card out buying things like t-shirts. It was before Van brought out the shoes. So so Nightmare before Christmas, Converse and everything.
But it was just all in this one little place. And not just that, then in Disney, not because I say it's what it's called. It's the Magic Kingdom, the Haunted Mansion. And that's where in their gift shop, they had all the Nightmare before Christmas stuff.
And that's where after you come out of the ride, they had Jack and Sally where you could meet. And Sally was always beautiful. Like literally the one of the most beautiful, like, models you've ever seen. But Jack was always weird.
Yeah, Jack is a weird one to do though. That head, unless someone is willing to walk around with actual porcelain on their head, it's not going to work. It really isn't. I feel really sorry for the dude in the costume because the most lovely, I'll be so uncomfortable.
But there's two things that I did when I noticed when I was there because it's like, we're just being there two weeks, you've kind of done multiple trips. They had one, and it's Jack with a plastic head. So it's kind of like a big bottle there. And one with face pins.
And you kind of didn't get the same aesthetics off the same field as like what I'm passing. Oh, there's Jack. I just look like a guy who got too excited with the face pins. Oh, there's a dude who decided to cosplay.
I do have a very impressive oogie boogie statue in the living room. Honestly, you should have brought them in, but I can't feel this. I know you've showed off the vinyl and stuff. That was impressive.
Whatever that is definitely pride in place. I'm looking around the living room here. We've got a clock on the wall that's like a 12 inch record where it's all being etched in with Jack and Sally on top of the, as well. Yeah.
There's bloody coffee mugs in this house. And most of the ad and famous for my wedding were night, night before Christmas. And so it was a pop watch and everybody in the bible party got an necklace. And I was at what wedding favors were.
You were all got Sally O'Rings and if you were a bloke and you got Jack Coughlinx. Oh, that's all sort started around this house. It's so kind of themed in our decor that you kind of don't notice them until I actually start looking for them. Yeah.
Everywhere. I mean, there's no use in this. You know, Mrs. Got Fucking Jacks out in onesie.
Oh, well, I'll have to get it. Now you've said it. You're gonna have to get to the kettle. Yeah, I'll get Lee.
I'll get Lee. I'll get Lee off. That's class. I just want to say as well, because I know they've been acting themselves in the chat.
We are watching them. We are watching the news. I saw John as saying that the checker out handed. I was like, I have not been reading it.
And I did get my wedding off my team at work. I got a lovely hamper because I got married in Halloween. So I got a very lovely Halloweeny hamper. And I got a beautiful framed picture of Jack and Sally with the lyrics of what they say to each other at the end right at the end of the film, which I kind of say the bit.
I mean, I walk past it every day and end up still sitting and humming along to the song. But it's on me wall just outside. And mugs is a big one because we had Jack and Sally, the dogs. You couldn't just get a Jack mug.
You had to get Sally mug. So I have like, I have two big, like chalkboards. If that's the feeling I get from it, it's like a chalkboard of big ones with the black straight handles with Jack and Sally. And then I've got two of the Jack and Sally ones.
And then I've got just an actual night, maybe four Christmas. I have a lot of mugs. I have a Jack head. I've got a Jack's head.
There's a mug as well. And how was your head? No, not a complete answer. You'll never not catch us out.
Can you hear the view we got with your camera right over there? Say a head bobbin. It's the best angle and I do. I move around a lot.