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Nerdy Up North Podcast - Tombstone

from Nerdy Up North Podcast · host Paul Watson & Sammie Bryce

Welcome to The Nerdy Podcast ran by Northern Nerds!! In this episode of "Nerdy Up North," we saddle up and ride into the dusty streets of Tombstone, Arizona, as we review the iconic 1993 film "Tombstone," directed by George P. Cosmatos. Join us as we explore the legendary tale of lawman Wyatt Earp, played by Kurt Russell, and his infamous showdown with the Clanton gang, featuring a star-studded cast that includes Val Kilmer as the unforgettable Doc Holliday. We'll dive deep into the film's portrayal of the Wild West, discussing its historical accuracy, memorable quotes, and the dynamic performances that have made "Tombstone" a beloved classic among Western aficionados. From the tension-filled gunfights to the camaraderie between Earp and Holliday, we’ll analyze what makes this film stand out in the genre. Expect lively discussions on the film's cinematography, score, and the cultural impact it has had over the years. We'll also share our favorite moments and characters, and debate whether "Tombstone" holds up against other Westerns like "Unforgiven" and "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly." Whether you're a die-hard fan of the genre or a newcomer to the world of Westerns, this episode promises to be a thrilling ride through one of cinema's most iconic tales of justice, friendship, and the relentless pursuit of honor. So grab your cowboy hat and join us for a journey back to the frontier! Tune in now and let’s ride into the sunset together!

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So we're live. We're live. Hi everyone and welcome to the Nelly Up North podcast. It's a naughty podcast supposed to buy all the nerds.

I am one your whole son. And I am. No, not the child snatcher. I am the other horse Paul from the Revertoll podcast, Nelly Up North, where I don't offer sweets to kids and say I know where the puppies are.

So definitely not. No. So yes, we are joined by the top grumps himself, Lee, who actually looks quite good as a cowboy. You won the first day of white Steve Harvey.

LAUGHTER Where's Chris? Where's Chris? Where's Chris? I'm sure he'll reveal myself.

I think so. The masses need to see you, Chris. LAUGHTER How are we? How are we, partner?

Oh my God. Babies comment when it's coming up and like, no, we just saw this. Because Chris is supposed to see it. Oh, yes.

We are in a... I kind of get the words of Chris's dash. Oh, my God. So how are you judging the Tashoff?

Are we going off realistic? Or... Chris has the most... I think the good.

That's what she said. No, it's time for family views. LAUGHTER I can't not say it now, can you not? No.

That said, she's found all five, so she's getting all excited. Well, you know what to do? We'll see who wins in the discord. So, yes.

So it's already off to me already. Professionalism, let's go. So how are you, Lee? You're up beautiful.

You say with that Tash. I'm done in. Oh, no, I do not. Like, nobody suits on the stash.

It's just my Chris, obviously. It's all weird because that's all you were at the day. You did not look like that. I literally just shaved it like five minutes before coming out of cover to use because there was no way I was having it for any longer than I did.

I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm crazy how long did it take you to crawl your bikes? About five minutes. It's easy for me. Yeah.

Just sticking on with some stickle tape. This is a real tush, Paul. Don't rip your illusion. I can't wait to see him move on.

He'll be using the string on the side of his face. That's to be hair late. It's like a problem. What was that guy at Looney Tunes?

Why are you all so? You're so too. You're turning varmints. I'm sorry.

Before we start, you want to see the gunspin and skills that I've been practicing? Yeah, it's really good. Ready? Ready?

For all your... For all your... For anyone who's listening on audio, I really highly suggest that you skip the audio on this one and just go straight to YouTube because you are missing an absolute treat. So just before we get started, because we've all had a bit of a shit week, let's be honest.

It's been a crap week for everyone. So I've got something to put us in a little perspective. Let's tuck on those heartstrings as well. Because...

Make me cry. Possibly. Because again, I'm not going to name the person. Because this person sent us an article today and I cried.

So I'm going to read the article through. It's going to go on the website tomorrow. But I think it's such... Just to give you a little bit of context, not context.

Like, understand what we try and do at New York North. And why we keep doing what we do. I think it's important message to give across. So just to read it to everyone.

I'll do my best. Mm-mm, boys. No, I won't. Show of colours.

Two years ago, I joined a Discord server that changed my life. But first, I need to rewind and tell you how I end up joining around. I'm a random Discord server. I didn't grow up in the North East.

I moved here after a relationship ended. Leave me with a job I loved and a very young child. I've always felt different. I obsess over fandoms to the point where I've created entire universes just to write within those obsessions.

But I never felt comfortable sharing them with people in real life. I must, uh, to a fault. So much so that I mainly stood there and how do I... That little gem inside me.

A nerdy girl with a little bit of A.D. here today's spice. Then, one random day, or how or why is Lost to my memory, I joined a Facebook group. And from there, I somewhere ended up in a Discord server.

What I found was something I never expected. I found my people. The kind of people, only the internet, fandoms, and the North East seem to create. Unapologetic, nerdy people.

People who share their fandoms, passions, and the world through their eyes. People who are built up in the North, both online and real life, without gear keeping. Unapologetic, kind people. People I would be a kooky sport, just because I enjoy their company and want to make sure their welfare the cons.

People who cheer you on and generally want the best for you. People who you can hang out with, wander around shops with, do nothing with, and yet it means everything. People who remind you that you are all right, even with EIDHD, makes you feel like you want. And who help you become a better version of yourself?

So yes, one day, two years ago, I stumbled into a random little Discord server and had changed my life. I have never been so blessed. Hashtag, it might be a cult, but it's not that kind of cult. Damn, those one good girls are probably kisses, aren't they?

You dickheads. Took the wrong story, I'm sorry. Oh my god, that was beautiful. Yes, so when anyone thinks about what we're doing and why we're doing it, that is the simplest justification.

I can say it makes the three years and everything that we've done, even for that one person worth every fucking thing we've done. So thank you. Can I actually say three, four, we're coming up before? Yeah, sorry for ruining the moment.

I don't know what I'm kind of glad you did because I think I might have just like bald out crying and I love that girl so much. Words can't even be put together properly to explain how much I love that girl. And to watch her just, I don't want to say flourish because that's such a... You know what I mean though?

Like just to watch her grow recently and especially like from the first time we did Women of Nerd Culture together to like, she runs it now like she does everything. I love her, I love you Becca. I just wanted to share that moment with you because it affected me to do it. I think at times that message can be lost and it should never be.

Yes. Yeah, I think we all needed here and I'll need to remember it. So tell you what, before we start, for I lose it, I'm going to do the disclaimer. Oh, actually, yeah, I'm going to do the disclaimer because if we're going to do a mustache competition, I think that should be better this right away.

What? I was going to say like, well, we're talking about having a good week. I did have a really good week until today. Right.

Unfortunately, Jake decided the third wheel on mine and Sammy's Valentine's weekend date. All right. Except any action whatsoever. So who did this next to in the semally?

That's actually in the middle of the book. All right. So next to Miss Wandryhans. All right.

Did you try that? Did you try the pop contract on your did you? Yeah. It's getting a break on.

I'm brave now that I'm not sitting next to her. Right. Oh yeah. Because I'd knock you.

I did buy you my donut though. Thank you. Was it one with a hole in the middle or not? No.

No. I had a hole in the middle. I got a hole in the middle. We.

Right. It's going to just come out the way before I pop up. Yeah. I'm going to do it.

Before I can't. Are you all right? Yeah. It's got your consumption.

Yeah. Anyways. I'm sorry. Everything that's in today's episode is our opinions and our opinions alone.

If you'd like to discuss anything from today's episode, please come and join us on the Facebook group, join us on the amazing Discord or the comments section where we can have an open discussion. But what we won't have is anyone coming for us and telling us our opinions are wrong. Because we can all agree to disagree and fandom. So let's keep it fun.

Keep it kind and keep the toxic behavior. Out of notism. We'll do our best. Yes.

Oh. You do. Yeah. Yeah.

And do you want to get the mustache thing out of the way? Do you want to do we get everyone to vote? Well, how are we doing this? So everyone in the chat, I want you to put if just the name of the person who's got the best touch and just for record, Sami is a bit of bitch.

So if anyone puts Sami's name in, she will cut you. I will. As the lady still gets shit for the last time he said he had the best beard. Yeah.

But somebody created a poll. And then somebody voted on said Paul. And I was tied with Jake. So yeah, so I've got one vote for Lee.

That's vote for Lee so far. Come on. There is at least 12 people in there. So Jill said Lee.

I'm sorry. Is the child catch a tash not catching anyone's eye? Without concourse of here. Look at the tash.

Look at the fact that before we started recording, Paul didn't actually look up for a while. He's like, he couldn't look at him. Step up. To go.

Paul looks like a killer. Paul looks like a killer. Paul goes. And then she votes for Lee.

Oh, well, you voted for Lee. So Lee's got five votes. Cheers, Molly. All that effort you put into this man.

I know. Oh, so I think it's fair to say Lee's winning the best task. Yeah. So well done.

So we'll sort out a prize in a bit. Apparently you do, Paul. Everyone's agreeing you look like a killer from the lovely boys. It's fine.

He was a nonsense as well, so it's fine. I can also tell I put this in the chat the other day. But all of me out of it came the other day. And I tried it on.

But I'd also ordered a takeaway like about half an hour before this. Before trying all of it on. And the takeaway lady came to the door. I had everything on everything.

One calls in and everything. And Bex was like, I'm not answering the door. You have to do it. So I just opened the door and you can now start going rich for the skies.

Obviously, really. Oh, Bex, she never comes back. Oh, she was holding up. Yes.

Oh, my god, Lee. This is what happens when we do a cowboy movie. So I think when it's scrap all the ideas from the next year and just do every week doing a cowboy movie. No.

And I'm just going to ask you a question. Lee, do you have a box at home with all the shit that you buy to do your episodes? Like they're just random box of costumes. I do now.

I didn't want to order any of them. Also, it just keeps piling up. Some of it does get a chance to come back. Like, especially with the women of nerd cultures podcasts when they're saying like, oh, can we have videos on what you think of everything?

And I just pull the costume off and be like, yeah, don't know. I'll pick yourself green. Oh, is it when Becca, not Becca. It's not the Becca.

That's what I love the piece of the story. Is it Bex? Does he ask you to dress up? I'll give all that cowboy outfit for a few times now.

I'm here. I've only been this is the second time I put this on. Yeah, and he didn't take it off. No, no, I did it.

Um, I was asking this to let me top going out for it at one point. But I haven't put it back on since the stream. Wow. And the Spider-Man outfit, is that being retired?

Yeah, I'll probably show anyone. Did it just shrink when he went in the show? Yeah, I think I was not a trucker. I'll have to go after that.

It was a bit round. I've been in there. And so, yeah, at least I've done a lot of costumes. The costumes on the area of the North podcast.

And I'll tell you what, because I want to get into this episode, because I've got useless information just piling up in my head. I'm going to give you the tag lines for this movie. Um, right, first one, justice is coming. Right.

Every town has a story. Two stone has a legend. And the last one is only three, by the way. And the last one is, I'm your huckleberry.

Oh, I'm your huckleberry. Oh, I could actually watch people's reactions to the scene at the end. And at the amount of times I heard, I'm your huckleberry. I was like, I could listen to this all night.

Oh, yes. We need to change Chris's name now as well. He's just had a share of his now-christicate. It was getting hard to drink me one step.

Trying to drink or eat with this fucking thing. I'll be top lip has been a nightmare for the last week. I think I've been sending messages to randomly increasing. Right.

Now he looks like Indiana Jones. The Tom's epic version. I had a window call on and a scarf. I'm sorry.

Yes. But yeah. Yeah, do the stone. Water film.

Water film. Yeah. Nice. Cut it on.

Yeah. Good. Okay. Okay.

I'll just play around. Five stars. Five stars. Um, just before we get into the film, can we talk about the cast?

Like less. Like when you go through just look at the cast list. Like even when you're watching, there's so many people that pop up. I don't know if it's by accident or it was just basically anyone that, and everyone not wanted to be involved in this movie.

Because this was 1993. It doesn't feel like a 1993 movie. It feels very modern. It feels like the techniques I know of, like it's at Western.

So you're not really going to get too many special effects. But everything is done so well. This would be a modern day of blockbuster even now. Yeah.

It had a, it had a moment at the beginning on my, I watched it on Disney Plus where I wasn't a little bit grainy. But I don't know why halfway through it kind of cleaned up. All right. And it was quite sharp.

I was like, I wonder if that's my telly or that's just how it's being put together. But yeah, it looked like, because even Anthony walked past my head, all this, this was like a 1993. Oh, really? Really?

The start with, but it did clean up later on and was a bit more sharper. Right. Oh, but not because it wasn't meant to be projected on like a 120 inch screen. Possibly that.

Shot by Billy, the kid there in the corner. Shot's on jealousy. Who's normal? Yeah.

Like if you look at the cast, like I know, like, like say we'll talk about him in length today, like Doc Holiday of Val Kilnup was just out here. Just Kurt Russell was brilliant. Best role ever. Then the day Val Kiln was done like, oh, good.

Like Sam Elliott, Michael Bean, Bill Paxman, Billy Zinn, a state's, uh, Stefan Long, powers both Billy Bob Thorne and Michael Rucker, Thomas Hayden Church, and Robert Mitchman as the good thing. And also Charlton Heston and why it's unrecognizable. And why it was actually in this. He was he was.

Um, I, so I, I, I, I, I, I, I found this maybe a little bit more on the start with butch, when it kicked in, it really, really kicked in. But what I found more interesting was the history about the Orchia Corral and the family, because wow, okay, really interesting. And I probably will dip it in and out as we go along, but Wyatt, that in 1925, and he was a consultant for early Western movies. And at least few in a row, two of the biggest Western stars were actually his Paul Bearers.

And who's that guy? Um, the really big one, really big, um, John Ryan, does build his whole look and style off. So he's like, even like, not just like has a historical, like, plays in history. He also has a plays in pop culture as well.

I'm going to say it's crazy. So Chris, I'm interested, like, not just in you, because you're a specimen of a human being. Um, she has you and Molly sat down and watched this the other night as well. This is the first time Molly had watched it, isn't it?

And yeah, um, I think she was quite bored at the start and then just started getting into it. And she said that she really enjoyed it at the end of it. I think it once they got past the talk and shooting, she was the second one. Goodness.

Good action. Came on. Yeah. I came on.

She was like, mm. There was just a lot of, um, a lot of nothing leading up to something. And then when that something happened, that's when it started to get more interesting. I'm kind of explaining the difference between what jobs they did and what jobs they do now and the money that they were trying to make again.

It just was like, I'm just sort of fascinated when I was watching, like, interactions between the different fork in the town. And like, and when they realized and who like white was like Kurt Russell's character. Um, like, like the reactions changed and how, like, just the name, commanded respect as well. It was just always so well done.

Well, you laid like, I know, like when we said we were doing this, you got very excited. I take you for a, I love this movie. Well, me man kind of brought us one of the bits. I hear western movies, but this is the only like western movie that I can sit through.

Um, my mom's been obsessed with it as long as I can remember. She's been to, to his own. I think like, okay, Carl, she's like rubbed the saddle that Kurt Russell sat on and all sorts of stuff. Amazing.

Yeah. But, um, I don't think I found it boring at any point, even the opening scene. It's like, well, the Cowboys showed up and absolutely wiped it out that wedding. And then just sitting down and just casually eating the wedding food.

Again. Yeah. So it's in, oh, you've killed two Cowboys. So they're trying to, because it was the Mexican police, wasn't it?

Um, so they stopped the wedding, um, like just afterwards. And again, all the Westiles, the shores of how brutal they were, they killed everyone. And then some of the Cowboys dragging the bride back into the church. You know, on what her feet was going to be.

I was like, oh well, again, that's not saying that. I like the fact that they, they showed how brutal they were. But they didn't have to show you the act. Like a lot of movies do or a lot of things like if you feel uncomfortable, like, if you watch the remiacal Ales, uh, Hills of Eyes, it's to that point, it gets so uncomfortable you can't watch.

It's kind of like scaring your kind of leaving your impression that these are really horrible, nasty human beings for the Raxle getting carried. But again, and like showcasing certain characters or things that's going to happen, they're on like Michael Rucker's character. You don't see much of them in this movie. But at the start, you kind of get an impression that he's not all here with what's going on or how they are acting.

But then you get to Michael Bain's character, Johnny Ringo. And this, like, he is fascinating in this movie. Like all the way through, like, there's two characters that you are drawn to. Like Doc Haldea is just, perfect thing.

But Michael Bain's character, Johnny Ringo, is interesting because at the start, you think, oh, he's a bad guy, but is he really a bad guy? Because he makes certain comments like when he's asking, oh, would you sell yourself to the devil? He's like, I already did. So he's like, is he in this gang because of not my choice?

He has to be the big thing. But then as you're going through, he becomes more and more unhinged. And the relationship with him and Doc Haldea is just absolutely fascinating to watch. So I could watch really just based on them two characters alone.

Never mind what else was going on in the background. Yeah. What I actually think is bad. I think he's just a sociopath.

Like, he doesn't really see right or wrong. It's just kill or be killed kind of world. And yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Like, like, if Michael sees himself for revenge for being born. And that's that scene where Val Kilming in the bed is amazingly done. Like, he's thinking he's on death store and he's just communicating.

And again, because I know, like, somebody says it took a long time to go, we get going and stuff. I love the relationships between the characters. And it's like Doc Haldea's and White Earps' relationship. Like how nobody quite understands it.

Because Doc Haldea's a twat. He's a horrible human being. But he's got so much charisma. It's hard not to like, and the other people are saying, why do you put up with him?

It's like, because it's just that he's weird. Like, you can talk to him anywhere you want. I won't get offended. Because he's making comments about how he's not innocent or how he's going to, he knows he's going to cheat on his wife.

And or Chris has got opinions on that as well. But he says, it's quite interesting how White Earps' wife dies. And then he's like, oh, yeah. I'm just going to a new wife.

Yeah, everything comes up. Yeah. I might be stealing one of some of these facts here. But do you know what Doc Haldea, what his profession was?

No. He was a dentist. He was a dentist. All right.

He was a dentist by triad. He actually is a really edge, highly. This is, I'm sorry to do the whole historical accuracy. But so you know the relationship between Johnny Ringo and him and when they're speaking of Latin for each other.

Doc Haldea possibly could speak of Latin for him because he was a really highly educated man. And Johnny Ringo couldn't read or write for shit. So the likelihood is them to probably never ever sporked for each other because intellectually, he would never have been on Doc Haldea. This is a weird old whatsoever.

And but he was a dentist by a trade. He blacked his way into that door. His brother was a dentist who started the dentistry school. And he just went, I think I can do that.

That's great. But yeah, I'm glad that they put that element into the movie as well. Because they try to use Johnny Ringo as almost an equal to Doc. On the path.

Like a kind of parker. If we were playing a video game or a comic book, Doc Haldea's power levels were so up there. And he did so under the kind of thing. Because he was the most professional match for Doc Haldea.

It was like, that was an unfair match. Yeah. And you know what? When I was reading, because I started reading about the movie.

And I actually got a little bit bored. Because to be honest, this movie is like, it was great. There's nothing, you know, nothing. Sandler scores on it's a good production.

And Val Kilmer spent months, maybe even a year, just practicing that whip. That's really fast. Like whip out so he could like so he could do it properly. Like he really put his heart and soul into his performance.

And by God does it pee off because the wit, it's fast. It's quick. It's just as quick as he's gunsling. And how's the North, for yeah, this man, for reasoning has no fear of his because he has tuberculosis.

And but yeah, he's got absolutely no fear of dying. Because essentially he's already dying. It wasn't all you just want to know. He was coughing.

I'll put you hand over your fucking mouth. Because people will get this. I would not have been surprised because he was that good at clearing this part. I would not have been surprised if afterwards I went and I am deviant red.

Val Kilmer contracted too. But it's just to get it right. Yeah, he was so good. And I've never seen a dying man like dying of tuberculosis look so beautiful as well.

Like, I honestly, he was chiseled. Like even like the soap and eyes and everything was like, even I was like, I'm straight. I was like, maybe I'm not. I'm not going to falcon.

I was in the club tournament Ben. I'll be your uncle Barry. I'm not going to lie. You wouldn't want to get in that bed.

No, you'd not be coming out of it. That's the damn show. It was cold. It was cold, wasn't it?

That was cold. That was ice underneath the bed. Yeah, to kind of keep him chilled. Really?

So yeah, if that face doesn't, that face is kind of like a mixture of makeup and the temperatures that they put him in. Because I looked at him and he's convinced him that he's convinced in the ill. Yeah. He was like, Jesus, he got to just drop dead straight away.

It was amazing how he showed that when he needed to be, he could be strong. But then he could kind of retreat back and just go, okay, I'm really like, die in here. Let's give us a minute. The key topic, like moments in movies, like we'll make a movie, like stand out or live long as long as it can.

With this, every moment he was in, he made the most of it. There's not like one bit, you can say, oh, that's my favorite doc hold of it. Like every bit, like, scene he was in, it was captivating. Like, from his introduction at the poker table, when the guys accusing him of cheating and he's like, oh, we're no longer friends now.

And he could pull grips up his pistols and put some on the tables, got there, we can be friends. And then it just a switch and he's like, the brutality of him when he's stabbing him as well. And it's kind of like the reactions and these little counterparties, little like, he's not, it wasn't his wife, it was almost like his partner in crime. The cold and common law wives, because there's nothing out there to say that they're actually were married.

So they just got in common law wives. Yeah, who was really sad? It's someone famous like, who would it is now? Can you get the bin out your mouth, please?

We don't want to get, we don't want to get to him, YouTube, I don't know what the name is. And I was sorry. Chris is like, he's like, ah, my top-grown partner was about to blow his own brains out. And can we just take a second for how amazing somebody looks in this film?

Oh, God. Just that man was just made for Western movies. Yeah. Yeah.

Like in the film where there's mustnashes, they've got to get him, like, I've heard rumours that there was just a mustnash in his mum's womb and he actually grew around it. Amazing. It looks exactly the same now, as he did. He's a mustnash vampire.

I'm sure he did one of the end prequels to Yellowstone and it just looks no different from that to this, which is really great because there's so many programmes, documentaries about this event. And there's one that actually comes to Netflix very soon. They're going to do a kind of a reenactment. It's kind of like a reenactment of the okay around and everything that happened around it, but it's historians talking all the time.

But Kevin Costner did one, which is weird because Kevin Costner's in Yellowstone and he plays some of the other places, Gregor and Father. Ah, took a long time together. But no, I think all the, like, the Wyatt family, like Kurt Russell, like, it's just, I don't think he's done many bad films. So when he's doing a bad film, so when he's doing like a strong performance and he was strong in this, like, you could tell, like, his eyes were sore, Pearson, and then you go from like Sam Elliott, like his Virgil, who was again, um, cast perfectly and he's looked like, and we've got Bill Paxman, fucking Bill Paxman.

Bill Paxman, oh my gosh. Again, like, say a bit naive, but a bit innocent. The only thing with Bill Paxman, I will say, it did feel his role. He was a little bit too old for the part, just because he was playing the younger brother, like the innocent at times and the different looks, because Bill Paxman has an old man's face.

That's been, even when he was young, he still looked older than he probably was. Oh, I didn't get that. I could easily recognise that he was the younger out of the three. But that was more to the personality not look like.

Potentially, not me potentially, right? And I was telling these guys before we came on, and if any of them actually looked at Morgan, and beforehand, the actual real, it's terrifying how much Bill Paxman looks like him. It really is. I liked Morgan, um, because he, and his death scene actually, were a rock me, but a rock me.

He was like the little kid of the group, basically. And it's funny, it's someone. Yeah, and when he became the lawyer, the piece maker, and he was almost standing behind Virgil, because he was terrified, but then he grew back born, because Virgil was standing next to him, just that transformation of being a bit timid to actually know this is the right thing to do, and then I'm going to step forward and I'm going to own that. I loved that moment, which obviously makes his death heart-breaking.

Because he finally got it. Yeah, it's great. We're not great, but when movies make like action scenes or something, if someone gets shot in the arm, it's like, oh, it's nothing. It doesn't mean anything.

It's like, oh, people can leave like how many times John Wick has been shot, and he's still going to walk forward. You get shot in this movie, you lose the use of your arm, because medical science about the deer, it was either remove the bullet or you die. And that's basically- When they were removing the bullet. Yeah.

Yeah. I got it. I felt this. Mm.

Is it any spite? Yeah. It's in his back. Yeah.

It's seven, it's not reasonable. It was on the train again. But it was that conversation between- Chris got excited because he was digging in the nest. It was the conversation between Wyatt and Pini and Morgan when he was like, he was talking about the bright light, and apparently historically, that's what they used to talk about when they would always say, I wonder if there's a light, I wonder if they had an agreement with each other that if one of them went first, they would try and tell them straight away what was on the other side.

And so that line was apparently what he actually said when he died in Wyatt's arms. Where there's nothing there. There's a few lines that they actually were historically correct. Doc Holiday just before the okay corral.

Oh, it was your little okay girl shooting. Where it's reported that someone's trying to shoot Doc Holiday and he's like, I'm going to kill him. He's like, you're a daisy if you do. And also historical accuracy.

Sorry. So the shooting didn't- we all know the shooting of the okay corral. We know what it's saying. Even if you don't know what that means.

It didn't actually take place at the okay corral. It was a little bit down the street at a photo shop. It just happened to end outside of the okay corral. So yeah, so it's originally- you can't really call it whatever that photo shop was because it had like name name.

So it sounded better like it was the shooting of the okay corral. The gunfight just down the road from the okay corral doesn't have the same ring. No, not at all. I've just looked up on IMDB because I'll be head through that guy once I start.

It's Frank Stallone. All right. So it's really- They're steps Frank Stallone in the bar. Right.

Oh cool. As he said, all the different people that's in this, you could throw a shoe and hit someone famous and not really realize it. Like, why aren't you sure, kids, and how much of a badass he is when he walks into the saloon? I've got it's near now where it's like, oh, everyone's right.

It's a beautiful place, but it won't make any money because it's full of deadbeats. And you've got Billy Bob Thornton sitting there being the biggest arsehole. No. And he's a little bitch in it though, wouldn't he?

Yeah. No, went to Lee, find him out. Did he even have his three shots? I think Echris has been dying to recite the lines from this bit.

Oh, which one? Where is that? Skid your piece boy? Isn't that right?

Yeah, skid your piece. It's one of my favourite lines though. But I love after when he finds out and he's like, he's like, duck? No, your wire down is like, put the gun down.

He just goes, thank you. Thanks for making him a little bitch. Oh, I do love it when wire just loses his shit. And it's not a revenge.

What do they call it? It's a, they didn't call it an event. Oh my god. The change in character was just perfect.

Watching him go from, he really is trying his hardest to create a life he, in his head is like, this is why he thinks he should have died. Exactly. But he has a wife who's absolutely addicted to Orbeops, like a common little wife who's addicted to Orbeops. And so he's not really going to get that life, is he?

But he's trying his hardest. And then when Virgil gets shot, Morgan gets shot. And he tries to when he's leaving because they do take Morgan's body back to his Marron Park because his Marron Park is still alive. Like that family is just one wack of doodle crazy, crazy show.

And lots of kids, lots of marriages. But Morgan's wife wasn't actually there when Morgan got shot. He preempted what was going to happen and sent her to Marron Park to be looked after. But watching when Wyatt leaves and he tries to, he's like, this is it, we're done.

And then he gets the confirmation that no, this is not done. And he just, it's a, it's a scream in front of power spoons in the water. I just want no, no, no. And the, what's the thing on the bottom of the cowboy's boot?

The spur. The spur when he lifts these chin up with the top of his boot and then just, Oh, he gets the, I was a nove man. Yeah. It's like such a power move as well.

It's like, I'm in control. Like, I got you, bitch. Or after that, man. And it's like, you would tell them, hell, like hell's coming.

Hell's coming with me. Was it you called for the thunder and I'm bringing it and hell's coming with me. I was like, fuck, yes. This is what I've been wearing for.

But yeah, like, we've got like, almost like a rocky montage. I've been going around killing all the catboys. I like this. Some beautiful shots, like cinematic shots of like the sunrise and then just like, riding towards it.

Where there's nobody like on the other side of the camera just can't rustle shooting. Like, I'm like, oh, we've got some Harlem glow type shooting as well. Like, they were hiding behind the course as well. They were riding and you got Doc Holdy like firing at the back of his head.

Just going to take you out over there, the Caribbean firing with the feet. The cowboys couldn't shoot for shit. But by the way, it kind of hits anything that kind of moved. Yeah, Doc Holdy has a hell of a shot.

Yes. Yeah. And as much of a like, serious film, it says it is quite comical as well. Like, it's only funny moments.

Even if the shooting scene was going wrong, killing all the cowboys. And that one guy is like in the opium den. And he reaches for the pipe and puts it in his lungs. He's like, oh, shit.

That's when he was demonstrating earlier with the gun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And I'm just waiting for him to photoshop me. Like, oh. No, you just pointed it out. Just don't post on Facebook.

I can't take another band. It's fine. Yeah. We're almost out with the last one.

Let's not just put that back a little bit. Damn, you're getting acroid. Yeah. Doc Holiday is shocked about absolutely brilliant.

When he's sitting when he's going behind his back. And he just the wee swag is just a. Oh, yeah. Oh my god.

Say when? Say when, bitch. I could just go and watch. And I kind of did last night.

Because when I type in, when you type in, like I typed in white just to start there. And then there was like, it took us to a reaction of fans who were being watched and doing this as a watch along on YouTube. But it was just the last part with Doc Holiday. The amount of people who got behind that character, like they loved him, especially when the reveal happens that it's not Wyatt.

It's him. It was crazy because it was like how much people actually got behind him. I think the performance of Michael Beale being in that moment was unreal. Like, I mean, it was just because he was ultimately confident.

Like, everyone's been telling Wyatt, like, since he's going to find that he's going to lose. There's no way he can beat Johnny Ringo. And Johnny Ringo news is like, you turned up and he's like, you see the swag in Johnny Ringo and see the confidence. He's knows he's got his mind.

And that just drains out when he sees Doc and you see the silhouette. And you hear him go, ah, you're huckleberry. And he's got, he's got, he's got, he's got, he's got, trying to talk to his way over. He's saying, I've got an all beef with you.

It's, it's with Wyatt. He's got, ah, Begg to differ there. We said, we started a game where we said we'll play for blood. And he said, I was, I didn't mean it.

So I was serious boy. And you knew that he was like, oh fuck. I was just joking. He's like, ah, wasn't.

The, the, the quick shoot as well in the top of the head. Yeah. And being reaction to it as well. Like that was so good.

Um, but Johnny Ringo, sorry, but Johnny Ringo, nobody knows how Johnny Ringo died. He was just found with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head in the middle of nowhere. And they just put it down as a suicide. Ah, we also found like two miles away from him, but he's been still attached to the loss.

Yeah. So when we went down, we just don't know what, and the lagging head probably wasn't all the day because he really was sick. Ah, yeah. It was doc, it has to be doc, but who cares?

Because that moment was just everything. It was the confidence of, I didn't expect it. Like I really didn't expect you to come and just before you even see him, you hear him? I lost my shit.

I'm not talking. I genuinely lost my shit. Um, but I love the, when Wyatt does end up turning up, he just goes, wasn't as sick as I made out to be. Exactly.

Let's get on. Okay, then let's get on. But um, one of the funniest scenes, and again, I don't know if it was meant to be funny, but again, I hope it wasn't like planned this out. And it just did it off the cuff.

I know it probably wasn't because it was just the perfect moment in cinema. It's when Johnny Ringo was like showing off in front of Dark Holiday at least face and doing all these cowboy moves with the girl. Like going back to this one. And it's like, that's not really impressive.

Just spinning the gun on your finger. And even doctors didn't even blink. Didn't I think the best term I used is about he didn't flinch and he just pulled out the couple of months. It's like spinning the cup round.

It was like, you can do all the shit. It doesn't really matter like wave. Because it's not about spinning. It's how quickly you get out the horse and pull the trigger at the end of the deer.

And Doc's impression just honestly, I was killed over it. It's one of the moments like you hear about the movie history, like you hear about the Indiana Jones scene from, um, when, uh, uh, where there's the last arc where, uh, uh, there's supposed to be this giant fight scene between this, uh, like, Sin Ninja sword fight was doing all the moves. And, uh, India was supposed to fight for ages. But he had the house and phone had the shit stuff there.

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