Hello everyone and welcome to the Nerdy Up North podcast, the Nerdy podcast water bike to northern north and one of your hosts Sam. I'm the other host Paul. And we are joined today by a very very special guest. My buddy Carolyn.
Hello there. My my Rami to my Michelle. If you listen to the podcast you've probably heard Sam talk about Carolyn a number of times. I haven't mentioned his audience.
So she actually feels like she's part of the podcast now. It's a two girls reunion. So today's top five is again horror themed. And we'll get into that in a minute but firstly as I mentioned last week I was doing a new segment where I was going to be promoting local businesses and sellers and it just sort of happens.
The Carolyn is a local seller. So Carolyn tell us a little bit about what you sell and what you do. Well I do. I paint and draw things.
I'm an artist and so if anybody's not following me on social media or you don't know me. Primarily over the last few years I've been drawing sketch cards for licensed products like Star Wars and The Welcome Dead, Alien Franchari, Stranger Things and all sorts of things that are similar to that. So if you've got my social media Instagram which is cjc on Discord Artist and you'll see quite a lot of the work that I do is posted on there. So you have a flick through if there's anything that would interest you.
Then you can contact me and let me know what you're after. And I do also do Comic Cons which for everybody who's a convention of Tender will know that the last 12 months especially have been a complete wipeout because of coronavirus. So I do have to start that up again very shortly. I'm doing my first convention in Hotley Spring on the 4th of July.
And I will be there and some over there with me will be there at the table. I'll have prints and original art and all sorts of stickers and different bits and pieces. Yeah there's lots of things because I've been obviously getting my thinking cap on during this few lockdowns that we've had so we're just going to up the ante a little bit with the variation of things that we've got available. So that is pretty much it.
It's nerd stuff that I do primarily but it's part of it that I do. It's my first love but if you can see it I can draw it. Oh very good. I know I don't like to say I think we'll talk about it before you came on.
The one that you've done the Beetlejuice that was absolutely brilliant. I was like wow that's completely blown blue and blue and I saw. The Beanie Divas. Yeah I think you posted it in a few weeks before that you got something coming forward that the Alien franchise.
Yeah there's an out boot coming out to celebrate the 35th anniversary of Aliens. I was in the first book that they released. Blitly I think last year which was for Alien called 40 Years, 40 Artists through Titan books and this time Titan have teamed up with Pritt as in Blood who are fantastic. If anybody's a fan of coffee table art books you've probably seen that they've done the thing.
Ghostbusters, Stranger Things, I was in and come September this year I believe is Aliens and I'm going to be in that book too so I'll be able to show my power loader off. Oh good. You came out for that definitely. Yeah that's so good.
So that is our seller of the week. I don't know what the better term to call it but seller and also me best word so there you go. So it's top five time. We want to get cracking on with it because it's going to be a long one.
There's three of us in this and it was my pick and I wanted to go down to the horror route again and I originally said horror movies from 1990 to 1995. That is pretty hard. It's pretty specific as well. And as many as when I always take the slasher from the mouth because I think with slashes you're going to pick them because they're really good genres.
So when you take that out really hard to pick between that, yeah it's over going from just the 90s horror and who wants to go first? Let us guess what first. Right. It's a multi-topic.
So are we doing one to five as in? Anything you want to do? I think it would be very hard to do like a favorite one somewhere. I know I want to do a favorite because that might be too difficult but immediately the first one that I picked which people would say is that a horror or is that a thriller?
Well I've got used for you because it's a horror thriller so it's... Oh you've got an idea. No there we go. It's a misery.
It's been came to literally. Which just creep saying because it was a 1990 release for those who don't know it was written by Stephen King. I think the book was released in the late 80s I think. It's directed by Rob Rayner.
The lead director of the moment. He is the director of such legendary titles as the Princess Bride which has obviously a huge following. Stand by me, you know the Stephen King and favorite when Harry Met Sally. And a few good men if you haven't seen that then I don't want to tell you.
He's also in the World of Watery. He is and he's in Sleep with the Seattle I think as well. He's also in After as well as a really good director. Misery is a good choice.
It is an uncomfortable film as well. I think it's scary but I can see this bit. I know there's this scene that everyone always carves back. It's a troubling problem.
I've been told, I've not been told the book I'll be told the book is maybe a lot worse than the actual film scene books. Oh yeah. It was James Khan who as well wasn't James Khan. Yeah so it's James Khan and Kathy Bates who were the two primary with the leading actors.
Lauren McCall's in it as well. Is she? Yeah she is supporting. I've not watched it as well.
She's at the very end of the film when he's, well I'm not sorry I haven't seen it but she's at the very end of the film. A lot of other stories. Four of the stories. If you haven't seen it, the not nor.
This is the 90s. You've had a lot of time. Bad time. All right then.
Well at the end because he's because he's alive. She is his agent. So he in the film is this famous writer and his car comes off everyone and a blizzard he's taken in by super fan, psycho, Kathy Bates and then it all kicks off. Because she doesn't want to let him go and things happen.
Yeah which I know is kind of a favorite character as well. That's not misery. That's it yeah. It's hell on.
It's absolute hell on. Me and Aunt Washington, we went camping in the lakes. It was William and Kate's when we ended up having that long weekend off. We went camping in the lakes and we took a port.
We'll tell you what it's an end to watch in misery. In the pitlock. Like stars outside. It was brilliant.
And we went with Aunt's parents and just like all the way through the film like proper intense we actually got um what's that? Yeah. We actually got um attached by cockroaches that night. So they were these flying cockroaches on and watching misery.
Complete dead silence and right at the end Aunt's mum just pounced up and went how did it end again? I mean shit myself. I never levitated. Right.
I totally forgot for a second she was actually there. Yeah. That like more proberant with it like we've never seen it before. So good.
It's a very engrossing film like it kind of invites you in and when you're there you it's it's just not a nice film I think if that's the way I'll describe it. It's just everything about what it just creeps your out and and makes you kind of go as well as just makes it just sweet and super nice as well. And you can see there's not quite right in the head of that. But evil.
Yeah. I think it's I think with a lot of horror films the ones that I tend to like the best the ones where you might think you know what this could actually happen. This could happen to somebody who you know. I think it's strange as well as a similar type of fail because you think this could happen to just random people going to Facebook and stuff.
I think at the end of that as well I want to say that um why are you doing this event because you answered the door? Well that line just chills us. I'm sure that's based on a story as well. I'll keep saying that though but I can say I didn't think.
Yeah. You could have been saying I've heard it happen for years and years. It won't be a sort of truth. Sorry.
That's your topic. Oh one of your one of your. That's one of my top picks. You want to be a topic.
Go on and follow you go next. So again I would class this as a horror film but I think when it was originally released it was a p.g. Okay. But it still absolutely terrifies us to this year.
A magnifobia from Nike. Um like John Goodman, Jeff Daniels as well like say I've never been scared of spiders or that type of fear but when I watched that film and I was a kid even the little garden spiders I would not go near because they looked like the ones on the film and again this was a film that was shown probably on a Saturday afternoon uh viewing because they say it's not very violent. It's not like say there's no really much bad language and stuff. It's just like say a real fear and again I know it probably couldn't happen but like say if spiders got out it is quite scary.
Yeah it could happen. Especially in my house we've got a guarantee every night greeted by a house spider who I end up having a conversation with. We've given them the option to either go and hide or be eaten by my cats. You take the pig.
You take the pig. We're in all fields on in this house. Good. I can't stop my cat's room doing what's in the nature but I'm not particularly a fond of spiders but I'm not absolutely terrified of them either.
But I've only ever seen a record of your wants. So I have seen a camera then. I actually can't believe. No I've seen this number one.
I think it's been a couple times but it's a film I haven't seen for a long time easily. Easily a long time. It was one of the films when you originally said the night and night exactly you looked up the films of the night and night and night and so on. So yeah I got shutters when I had this thing.
I thought when I saw the picture as well because it brought us back to that memory where Japan was a family that gets out of the house and he's trying to get out of the spiders coming down and it's like she's just all over the world. It's just makes us feel itchy just now. It's all over the world as well. It's relatable on some level.
It's relatable to you. You're visiting things that you know sort of think like we said there was a siren house and it's not being a poison. It's not for one of my kitchen sink and it's living there. Every time I open the tube to get like anything out from the kitchen sink.
It just like comically just hangs down on its little web. Just saw you. It's all over the big. They get rid of everything.
This is why we don't particularly like removing them because they kill all other little bugs and that the house spiders are really handy to have around. And if they go outside they'll die and you know there's plenty of places to hide in my house you can just hide. Just don't bother us or come into my bedroom on me bed like that one night where I had to be a kid in the bedroom. And Beatrice and Bax did it absolutely nothing to get rid of it.
So I was like oh I guess you're living here. And I'm going in the living room. Ruby just kind of stares out and picks her used to be the spider killer but Ruby she just kind of if she's in a playful mood she'll play with them but she'll not really do much. But another thing about the film I actually loved and I again mentioned it was John Goodman as the pest, maybe I can't think of the word now.
I can say the killer pest. The pest is a real one. You had a brain father there. Yeah.
You could say you're a typical John Goodman but don't know if it's like saying sort of a quirky kind of character. Like when he couldn't even kill the bogey who walks over in the stands and says yeah don't me job. Actually there's only the last sex like saying the doctor in the jungle as well. It was quite creepy and makes it not in a sinister way but I think it was Dr.
James. He was played by Julian Sands. Probably not a big name but you exactly have a good partner film. Awesome means.
I've only ever seen it once but John Goodman and that guy's just big the big the basket. You kind of fold that role at all. He was absolutely hilarious. It's one of the most portable characters ever.
He's so great. She's always going to be done from Roseanne as well though. Oh man. Yeah, it's very done.
Yeah, definitely. So ready to move on to mine. Cool. Right.
So I'm going with my first one as basically this film for girls of my age who were in the stuff like the dark side of life. This was this was their Bible. It's 1986. It's directed by Andrew Flemen and it's the craft.
This is the kind I'm talking about. I knew you would have picked it. Because it is fantastic but I am going to go on a slight bit of a rant. So the cast is brilliant.
Absolutely phenomenal. Apart from one actress who I could quite easily replace with somebody else and be fine with it. Robert Tony. Robert Tony.
Oh my god. I watched it last night. That woman cannot act. Not in this film.
She's brilliant at Empire Records. But she is so stiff in the way she says mother and birth. It does me head in. Oh, and the fact that you can see her hair is well because she did Empire Records just before she did the crafting.
Obviously in Empire Records. She has all her hair off. So she has no hair. So what she's wearing is a wig.
But you can see her lace front all the way through the film. And that's all I'm staring at. But I acted in mine. It's so stiff.
So I watched it last night in preparation for today. But what I also watched straight afterwards was the craft the legacy. Oh fuck that was terrible. I actually did.
Oh my god. I'm sorry I'm going to call you that. We watched it. I was like no this is absolutely shy.
Oh I actually know. I do get what you're saying because oh my god. This is all on the legacy. Yeah.
But you know what the mist and absolute trick with it because the code really focused on the David and the company side of the story and had the which part as as they actually did. Which is a secondary fiddle in this film. Like it wasn't the main focus but the didn't hold on the David and the company side. Better.
And if I hadn't gone on IMDB I wouldn't have I would have gotten a bit of a shot at the end. But I did. And I thought who was in it and I was like god damn it. So how was your legacy?
That's all there. But since I mentioned shows adopted I went right. I know I didn't do about I called it. The worst thing about it was while I got the craft it was a bit unpredictable.
It was fun. This one you knew literally the single was everything you could clean by numbers everything that was going to happen in it. You knew it was going to be bad. You knew the sun's but no I said going back to the original papers while the craft.
To me I actually like say again I'm not a teenage girl but I did love that film at the time because there was there was not many films like that at the time as well because it wasn't shiny. It wasn't pretty it was quite dark and dirty as well. Yeah it ticked those boxes for you know like those teen films. Yeah.
That were so easy to watch but like you see at the same time I had a gritty side to it. I was so relatable on just like a high school level in for all. So when that came out we were halfway through secondary school. I'm a primary school.
It's gone. So you know all of that you know the pig pressure and the bullion theme that you know came into the film and you know girls want to be popular girls having problems that all was very relatable. I think especially you know if you were at school maybe you know in a camp that wasn't the desirable camp maybe you kind of got a bit of a kick out with that. I definitely was.
This was like like I said it was any girl who was in the darker side of life at that time which I was just starting to. This just became a bible like this was you kept this course to your heart and you got it like you learned like the different sides of the thing like in the wiggenside as well and but um. What a soundtrack as well. Oh what a soundtrack absolutely amazing.
I was reading the IMDb on this site in preparation and Holly Marie Coombe was actually auditioned for Sarah the main character played by Robin Tony who would have been better but that's the side of the point and then she goes on and starts in the craft in chant. So she was at a top pick there was a few actresses who asked Scarlett Janssen was one of them. All right but it would have been a very young sort of. But the all of them were pretty young obviously you know campbell was just on new campbell however you can just coming out of party five.
So she was just I think she did this and then she did scream straight afterwards. So she was just starting to get into um into films but Rachel True who is um is it Michelle? Is it Michelle? I think I can't just name Michelle.
She was 30 years old. Right. I'm not too bad. That's what you did back then.
You had you know you had like 30 year old plant teenagers. Yeah. Look at Greece. That was nice.
That was nice. It was always about 40 years wasn't it? Yeah I know. I'm sure um Rachel True is going to be at the La Vara.
I believe she is. Yeah one of the conventions was going to be there. Yeah yeah yeah. Oh it would be a cast of films of craft reunion.
Maybe they will. I'll send you thanks for an answer my guests. Needs to go and out and scream. Is it five?
No. Is it six? Scream five? Twenty twenty twenty two.
I kind of weird. Allowed in these lists is because we would all pick it. We would all pick it. It's simple as right Carolyn.
You don't your next one. Next. Next. Can't you say oh is that really a film?
Yes it is. Yes it is because I was in VVD. I know exactly what it is. It's it because it was the first that was made for TV movie.
That was a two part one. Yeah yeah. So yeah two part. 1990 again just creeps in.
This was just an immediate like yeah top five for me. So I think for a lot of people where do you know what Tim Curry from? For me he's Pennywise. He's the wisest of the darkness on legend.
Oh friend I'm further. Yeah he's Pennywise for me. Yeah so I mean as I was having my bit of research time on this last night I am talking for the Seth Greens in this. Yes you're the best.
Richie. Yeah. Yeah I actually watched the second part of the new ones the other night and I didn't pick this because I knew you were picking this. Because you asked me if it fell into the genre.
And I think yes. But if you want to pick the only one on you and that said yes because it made me a movie and and if you want it on DVD they don't separate it so it just goes straight into the second part. In the version where I was on two sides of the disc you've watched the first part then you'll take it out and watch the other side of the disc. It's like you're also like me that's the one you want yeah.
I think my existence is like that you know I don't know why because it's not really that long film but my existence on DVD you've got to turn it all the halfway up through. I'm currently decided to put on four kids in two discs as well. But John there's so many good characters in this look like John Riddin in this. Oh John Riddin was brilliant as Ben Hanson wasn't it?
Ben yes. Yeah so it's a Brandis rest in peace. Oh he was he mentioned another one of our videos. No that was last week that was the most well-cared part.
But he was like the early 90s half-round was he? He was heading in that direction and that is really what sadly took his life because when he got to a certain age the roles weren't common because he wanted him as he was and oh it's so sad he was such a talent because he is a really good. Oh what's the name? Billy?
Billy? Billy? Billy? Billy?
Billy boy. And who of course Richard Thomas is the older version of Bill from the Waltons? Yes! No!
No! No! No! No!
No! No! I'm like the first half of the age. Rather than the second half I'm not really a big fan of the big giant spider thing that was.
Well we've learnt why. Well we've learnt about Bobby Athena. Yeah yeah yeah. Well then thanks again.
I was thinking about age as well but as you said was to be able to move your mid-for-tv like the way the two parted that's why I left it out as well because like I said that was that was one of the films that you watched as a kid and you went around in your mates and said no I've been saying this yet and I was fucking nine-year-old you speak terrified of that. It really was. Who's your favourite loser though? I am Richie.
Like Seth Green I always say he always makes me laugh. And I like to mean the new one as well that guy who has a strange thing with him as well. And Bill here now who that's just they got the adult adult version like the adults of the children taught at least got on. I think that was one of my big problems with the new eight that it was too long.
You probably could have the second part you probably could have 45 minutes. What's going on you know? And it would be a better film but the red back to the kids too much in the second part. Because you were more interested in those what you've seen that people but then that's a different subject.
Do you want Carolyn who's your favourite loser? I think Ben was my favourite. Ben Hanson. Yeah because he just looked at me wasn't he?
He was. I mean my name is Eddie. Eddie spaghetti. I just love him.
I love him more because of the newer version of it. I love about the kid who plays him who was in Chazam and his James Rance Court who plays him as an adult. They were just they were exactly the same person. I absolutely loved it.
I had to bow my eyes out on each version when Eddie goes. So I think he died through it. Didn't he? That's one.
Because he used these inhaler. I guess Colin the deadlikes doesn't know how to think. Yeah. The deadlikes don't know.
Have you ever read the book? Yes it's. It's got some interesting chapters so we say. That's a big bug as well.
The next one is a big bug as well. My copy is not inherent in the other bedroom but it's huge. I think I'm getting halfway through it and I'm exhausted by this. There's so much detail.
Oh so Stephen King. He's trying to just tell me what he's rumbling. I'm just joking. Nice to talk.
Yep. He absolutely goes. We're ready to move on Paul. Interesting comments first to picks up being Stephen King.
Yes. I know he was bigger than 90s. Yep. So I'm going to go for a little bit later.
This one was 1996. Start Michael Gf-Fox. So it was the Frigness directed by Peter Jackson. It was one of the first like horror films I saw well because I was I'm the editor.
I love anything to do with the editor. So I heard Michael Gf-Fox was starting a new film. I was getting really excited. And I remember going to say it and not expecting it.
Not expecting it to be what it was. And I probably didn't like it as much when I was engaged. But when I revisited it when I was older, I loved it a lot more. I kind of got it a bit more I think.
And the ghosts are hilarious and it's with the whole grim rainbow aspect and the sale got a part of it with the numbers. And it was just really done the whole aspect of how we lost his wife and how he was this big success and I kind of lost it all because of what happened to him and becomes the kind of Charlton that he became towards. But he was in the film as well. But it was interesting to say Michael Gf-Fox not well be the hero but not be as heroic as he has been in back to the future.
Team Wolf and so on. But yeah, the Frigness that did have a big impression on us and I loved like the artwork and like say the Marvin campaign as well because I say the David Dakota had like the kind of the face that was coming through it as well. Yeah, I remember such a good film. It's one of those.
Well, that for me is like a proper Sunday afternoon film. Like you've just had your dinner. It's time to chill out. Just put the friends on.
So good. It's got the drill sergeant in as well from Metal Mettlejacket. And the name was the guy of Starship Troopers as well. Yeah, it was.
But you went to Starship Troopers. It's got the Tef. And the D Williams is Patricia? Yeah.
The D Williams? I'm just going to say I've just got the name of the D Williams. If it is D Williams, she is a huge in horror films. I think she's been in quite a few.
And most recently she was in Rob Zumbi's last year. D Williams. D Wallace. D Wallace.
D Wallace. He was. Well, he said he didn't get a totally wrong night game last week. That's a big problem.
My gosh. I'm going to go to the names. But she's in a koojoo and she's. Oh gosh, what the Rob Zumbi film?
She was in that film as recently. Did you see the guy with the Tef? Except it's. Very busy, son.
Yeah. They played the Grim Reaper, the Saviour colour in it as well. He was like, I didn't see many films with twists and all. Like, when it's when it's 5th element, 5th element.
When the 6th time, sorry, came out and then twists come all the day. But this one had a little twist anyway. You thought the girl that Michael J. Fox was trying to protect was really the colour with the ghost as well.
That was quite interesting spin on it. And it's such a set. It's such a Peter Jackson setting as well. Like the town that he uses is very similar to some other films that he's done before.
And I don't want to talk about it because of room in one of mine. But it is very similar in settings. I mean, we know Peter Jackson from The Floor of the Rings because these were films that were still not on the grand scheme of things, were still absolutely spectacular. Like, he knows how to, he knows how to not just crack the effect of CGI.
I imagine it was a lot CGI in it at the floor of Cracked It all, which was sometimes you just kind of get around it. Like the ghost effects were fantastic. Yeah. That time.
I made some feel like he was trying to find out the techniques, to load the rings, just to see what works and what doesn't work. I know it probably wasn't in his mindset for then, but you've got to wonder what was in the planning process as well. Because I know he started off in the horror genre as well. It was a pretty dirty start-up with as well.
So, but when you think of all these big, big name actors, I mean directors now that came from the like the gory horror genres, like, I see it as like a samurai around me as well. Now, going to Dr. Shrinish in the Marvel Universe, starting off from like the able-dead, it's quite interesting. Yeah.
We're gonna move on to my next one. Oh, well then. Because my next one's Pete Jackson one. All right.
It's from 92. You've just said the name of it is Brindeck, it's Thor. Sorry. They're live.
This is not normally one of my go-to films because of the gore aspect of it. Have you seen it before? Ah, but it's been a minute. It's, it's, it must have been about 20 years since I've lost last watch.
The gore elements in this is absolutely ridiculous. And it's stomach churning because it's, it's the coloration and the texture of it. Like it's vile. But it's sad.
It's just wrong. And it has some of the best courts in there. Like, your mother, it, my dog is one of them. And the praise raised, I kick off in the name of the Lord.
I could not stop laughing at that last night. But this is how gory it got. So, but just the final scene, this is not anything in between Baron and mine. It is a gore fest.
But for the final scene, there was 300 litres of fake blood used. That's just one final scene that does not include the rest of the- I don't remember it. Now, is that the lawnmower? I was at the market.
That's the market. Well, it's just after the lawnmower. It's a lawnmower of to kill because what happens is it's very, it's not almost like exorcistic, you know, the M in the desert and the fine, the pazooza in the desert. Well, in this one, the fine, the air, rat monkey, that is, that's pretty dangerous.
This rat monkey that gets transported over two, is it New Zealand? Peter Jackson's from? I don't want to get that wrong. So, is it New Zealand?
Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, so this rat monkey, this rat monkey is- Well, he gets transported over to a zoo and the hero, which is Lionel, they buy Timothy William, and he falls in love with a- Oh, which I don't know, I heard it probably. I think such was Spanish. Um, called- oh, what's that name?
Oh, god, the wood not stops in it on the film as well. They say it all the time and I can't remember what I mean. But he then they end up having a connection, but Lionel is very much a Norman Bates character. Like, he has a mother who is just absolutely obsessed with him.
And she ends up following him to the zoo and she gets bit by a rat monkey. And with a few turns, it turns into an absolute wretched zombie, which are absolutely disgusting. And then it just goes on a mad trail of the mum gets bit and dies, and then she kills the nurse in the most horrible way of possible. Literally just get the hold of her face and just close her back.
And then you've got the priest who buried her who dies, then a bunch of- a gang member who ends up beating up on Lionel, he gets killed. And Lionel then ends up taking them all back to his house, because that's the normal same thing to do and leaves them in the basement. The nun- no, the nurse and the priest end up having a baby. Yep, that happened.
Lionel ends up taking that baby out for a walk so the public can see it. And then his uncle, who came to his mother's funeral, tries to take his house off him, it has a massive party and it all just shit to sit the fan's face literally. And it is just a goth-ess. I remember being messy, I know Nick, she loves the gory of the better than- I'd say if I told her to court and try to- I'm not a torture- I didn't find this like that.
Apparently the New Zealand government loved it so much because the blood and the- the blood and it and the gore and it was too comical and they didn't find it offensive. So they were more than willing to actually give it a low certificate than what it was intended to get but more people to go and say it was the absolute beloved. They thought it didn't use even proud. They've got a good sense of humor over there.
Oh definitely, definitely. So yeah, Brenda, it's called Dead Alive in other places but I've never known- No, it's not just being brain dead over here. I know what I'm trying to think, because it was a part of the villain- nationalist as well, I was banned for a time. Was it?
I could be wrong. I know there was a lot of films around about that time that I was banned in the UK. Maybe not for the similar release or for the new orb-like form release. Again, that might be just me thinking the wrong way.
I'm sure it was one of the video-anasties. Well, Peter Jackson also likes to reuse some of these casts and Elizabeth Moody was one such after-ass who played Lionel's mum. If you look very closely in the Lord of the Rings, in the Shire when the party is going on, you will see her flopping around. She's a very distinctive looking woman, very harsh features.
Talking about across homes or like funny enough, I'll just be saying that's why I would say that's why you and Nick went to cinema this week. At the first time, New Bolden, it's called the service screen. It's perhaps made it as massive when it sees spiral. Like I said, a bit of a saw, but Chris Rux actually quite good, which was surprising.
I heard. Yeah. It's not like there was a bit I had to put the chat around me head when there was the typical saw route showing all the core. But I would recommend it as well, like I said, it was actually not a bad film.
We don't expect Chris Rock to be in that role. No. Talk about it. Yeah.
It was a bit of a scary moment at the beginning when he started on enough Chris Rock mode, when he started telling the stories about how marriage works and how the white hole was. That's what I thought was going to be like, but then when it's the film started going, it started actually being quite decent. You don't know how to smell the fart act anymore. Oh, the people who do that.
Matthew from Navi, he does that all the time. And obviously he doesn't want to ruin the room. He's not the fart cause he's just late looking around. Yeah.
Well, nice for real back to the cinema this week though. Oh, nice. Well, that's mine. Frended.
I absolutely love it. It is gory. It is funny and it is. It's just going to do some stories as well.
And it's zombies. There you go. There you go. But Carolyn, what's your next pick?
My third one is Silence of the Lambs. Well, it's on my list as well. So we'll do a joint one from 1991 directed by Jonathan. Jonathan, Jonathan, Jonathan, Jonathan, and Jonathan.
Yeah. And then based on the amazing book by Thomas Harris. So you give me shit the other week. It's about billion being sci-fi.
This is psychological horror. Oh, it's a kind of bill. It's a kind of bill. It's a kind of bill.
This can happen. This can happen. Yes. And he's a kind of bill.
Yeah. Well, kind of all the kind of bill. But it's a tough law bill wasn't a kind of bill. No, he was a serial killer.
And I just love the fact that there's two aspects of this film. Yes. You've got a witch on. Come on.
We'll just be talking about him. But he had a letter. And then you thought the whole bill was a bit. Right.
Yeah. So I mean, with this, I think this was probably, for me, when I started to really take notice of Anthony Hopkins. This, they've realized this is only the third film to win all five Oscars of the main categories, which are a director, actor, actress, best picture, and best adapted screenplay, I think. It's only, I think, or accepted to be the only best picture, which is a horror film.
So the others, which were only nominees, I think, are the exorcists, Jaws, The Sixth Sense, Black Swan, and Get Out, which is my recent issue on. I would have read that. It's a good thing. Like, say Black Swan, that's a good show.
I've never considered that as like a horror book. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, yeah.
It's scary. Yeah. It's the first film. They're absolutely scared of the Jesus.
I was like, generally scared the crap out of us. I've been watching horror since I was about seven years old. Nothing really, like the legs are pretty, and Michael and Jason just do not scare us. Well, this, I was at a sleepover.
And we went downstairs to, and we went downstairs, and we went downstairs, and our dad was watching it. And, and me friends started asking questions, like, oh, what's the kind of, well, I don't know, so we told this, what the kind of was. I have never been so scared in all my life at the point where I got a trap nerve in my leg, because I was that scared. The idea that, you know, Michael and Freddie and Jason, they're not real.
Yeah. He is very much an actual person who can kill people. And still to this day, I still get creeped out by the kind of, like, I can't, if I listen to a podcast, I don't even do a cannibalism. I can't listen to it.
And I haven't, it has a little bit of a, like, a belief factor in that film as well, which always kind of, because you didn't want to like them, but you kind of did as well. And it was a really, really interesting type of. They did it really well in Hannibal to make them more likeable. You felt something horrible in Hannibal.
And the Thomas Harris scene was some of my favorite, because Red Dragon is actually my favorite all the time, and the. But you think, Hannibal, you think Hannibal, kind of a left to don't you? Yes. It's the first thing that I think you can see one thing, like, getting another chance on that scale, will always be kind of like a left beat.
But he's not the first Hannibal left to? No, Brian Cox. Brian Cox is the best Hannibal left to. And he is very good.
But I do not like that film, because it is ripped directly from Red Dragon. And it doesn't do it just as, but he's not a bad Hannibal left to. I also thought of Manhone and all the new Red Dragon film. I thought the two ferry in Manhone, it was so much more sinister than, is it Ralph Fiens, so a real Fiens?
Yeah, it's a real Fiens. Rafe. If you're ever certain wealth level, you just pronounce it Rafe rather than Rafe? Somebody's got an L in it.
It's Ralph. Ralph. It's, I think Red Dragon, I think the book and the film are very much, they can not be, but the film Red Dragon is so good. Like, that is my Will Graham.
That's how I see him in the book, not from a TV series. No. He hated how the portrayed will in that TV series. That he was just whiny and windy and more beat.
Oh, he didn't tittin'. I do not like him. But I'm not going to try and plan, since he's named, because I'm going to talk to himself, about the guy who played Hannibal in the TV show. Oh, and I think that was my magazine, was it?
It was a NASA one. He was absolutely brilliant. Yeah. He is very good.
He is very good. He's the swalom sophisticated side of it. What we must be sure is to fail. If you're going to play...
Yes. ...is it... He is brilliant. What do you really bring?
What do you have to do is nice styling. I don't like... No, I don't like doing that for as much. No.
That's the thing, like, say, when you put the sans-lamps, there's no weak points in the film. When you think about it, like, say, every actor and even every part, players through, even from going to, say, I'm a company named the guy who is the psychiatrist, who's trying to make money off of Hanoverlack, ASL, Slippery and Snake-like. And how they use Julia Foster to get information, because a new Hanoverl would be drawn to her. It was, like, say, everything, even to the big way that she gets the horrible same when she gets slightly nefarious.
It's all there to make you feel uncomfortable, and you don't ever see anything that he uses. Well, that's what I said. I know I'll give you a shit, but it is a good horror film for the aspect, because there's no aspect where you feel comfortable in that film. No, not at all.
And the wonderful Scott Line, if you dare double fans, please, Luke. He is actually in it. So Jack Crawford, who is played by Harvey Keitel in Red Dragon. And I actually prefer Scott Glenn to Harvey, first, um, Crawford.
Yeah, because you know what I mean? I like Crawford and Harvey Keitel had, like, the other factor in the other ones, where this one is an asshole, he's a twat. Crawford. I thought he was, I was like, he used the starland.
He did use that. We did use that. The scene with the, in the, in the lift, that bit there really, really breaks us out. And especially when I got stuck at work, in the lift one time, and I took a photograph, and somebody said, if you look over, it looks like you're in the lift room.
Silence. Look, look, look, look, look, look. Shut up. Shut up.
All right, just, I mean, look, as long as you're not in there with the body, side lying down, you'll be in order to be fine. It's just that, what really, what really is great as well, is them, when you find out, why, then this, what really, there's one line in screen that really bugs the life out of us. And it's, they always said, did they ever find out why, why Hannibal, Hannibal Lecter did what he did? No, I don't think so.
Well, the fucking did know what he, why he did it for, because he wanted to make the world about a player. He killed people for perfection. That's why he did it. So it's a little bit like texture as well, wasn't he?
He killed bad people, I think. But these were people who couldn't do anything wrong. Like in beginning of Red Dragon, you're watching an orchestra, and you can hear one person in the orchestra just messing it up on. And it's just, and you can see him, Winston, when it's happening.
And then later on, the dinner table, they're talking about how that person is missing. Oh, that's because you're eating them right now. Because he hated imperfection. He loved perfection.
And he just, he rid of the world of what he thought was wrong with it. And that's why he did it for. And I hear that line in spring. It took me teeth on edge.
And he likes styling, doesn't he? And he wants her to be perfect in what she does. That's why he gets really happy with it when he's like, quizzing her about, because obviously she goes to him since she when he's locked in the set. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. And he wants her to be perfect at what she does. So he's saying, wrong, that's wrong. Why do you think?
Why do you think? So it's much as she's been educated by the FBI. She's really been educated by him. But he really thought that insight.
Yeah, it's amazing how it looks. He sees like, you know, right? I'm not going to let it be anything less than what you could be, I think. But I see the guy who has Buffalo Bill as well, I see he's done loads of like things since then, but to me, he'll always be buffalers.
And like when you're here in the song, well, of course, but I'll see. I can say that again, I remember saying that for the first time, not being, not normally like, same transvestite or transvestite or transvestite. Or is that okay? I actually went to the time round, even my wisest penis.
It's been quite good. Yeah. Well, I see that was the whole level of sinister. It's the, it's the screen.
Do you know when he uses the whole, you put the lotion. You get the horse again. And then she starts screaming. And then he starts screaming.
It's sore sinister. It just set us on edge. He is terrifying. And I did what all of my films are now in preparation.
And I purposely left silence of the lambs to the end. Because if I couldn't watch it, I was fine with that. I'd still get freaked out by it. I've been watching the new show, Clarice.