Yeah, so you're live. Well, live. Hey everyone and welcome to the Nerdy of North Sidecast. It's a Nerdy podcast and it's hosted by Northern Nerds.
I am one of your host Sam. And I'm the host Paul and we are joined this evening by the lovely Michaela and Elisor Lovely Grant where we are going to be doing a special episode. We're going back to the top 5 which we haven't touched on in a minute. How was England that to do?
How long was it since we did a top 5? It's been a while actually, yes. It's not been a lot more than a month I would say. Because we didn't do any in October.
I generally can't remember now. As we learned on the 100th of the Sores, they're all just rolling into one now. That's getting that bad. But I thought everyone's okay.
I know I've been now shopping in Newcastle today so it's been an adventure, shall we see it? I've never thought it was going to be quite a touch. It's definitely not being quite a today. So, Christmas shopping!
Well, I've got a question before we kick off. Right. You ready for this? How are you doing?
And what you've been watching? How's the week being watching? I'm really trying to think of new ways of mixing this in. Why did you go Irish there?
Sounds like I'm on a new persona. So Irish Sam today, yes. Yeah, the hairs gone red. The accents changed.
Well, yes. I know a lot of us have been watching probably Wednesday and we are very excited about it. So, but we can't really talk too much about that because if we get the plans together, we are going to try and do a review of it. Yeah, but that is what I've been watching.
That and Drag Race UK. No, I haven't watched the final so short. Oh, no. I won't tell you.
Yeah, Drag Race, Wednesday and I'm as a live. Yeah. That's my week. Wednesday, I've had a lot of time for TV.
This week, but I've got to put on the first two episodes of Critical Lines that I've just released. Ah, I've had to do all Critical Lines. It's just a new one. We're like, they've all been together.
Some of them have some of them haven't, but it's interestingly done. It's very differently shot and definitely like different screenwriters or a different screenwriting style. It's not the same as the previous series. And there's definitely a darkness to it that it didn't happen for.
It was pretty dark show already, but it's like maybe 10-7 in there. I suppose it's the best way that I can describe it. It's looking like it's going to be in total. But yeah, Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday.
Yes. It's going to be a Rechee. Yes. Even Gwen just ran up there down and played like, I know what to say playing it down, but she's just like, any look that she called she just looks so beautiful and cut like, but yeah, she doesn't know.
The chair looks so good and Gwen and Christie's amazing. Yeah, I've read something to do as well that was like made us happy but also a little sad that she said filming Wednesday was one of the best experiences because the first time that she's ever felt beautiful in one film. Oh, no. Oh, no.
She's beautiful in anything she does. Yeah. She's freaking gorgeous as Brianna Tarth. Mm-hmm.
I think they're rather than being like, because Wednesday, she's very feminine. Yeah. And most of the roles and everything that she plays, that's a lot more and stuff like that. Yeah, she's a lot more masculine in some of the other stuff that she's all blessed.
I love that. She is my absolute queen. I love that woman. Have you been watching out with Taylor?
I didn't even know what it came out with. So I'm about 20 years old and I've never seen it many, many times because I'm rewatching Buffy again. Oh, right. Well, you're too.
So this is like the fifth, sixth time I've watched it and I've just started seeing it. Bye. All right. So yeah, those are crack collages.
I love that. I see that. I love it. I think it's funny and I just I really like it.
And it's before dawn comes in. Yeah. It's always a weird when it comes to the, because I've never gone on well with, I think I've told it before that the collages of Buffy didn't quite sit well, but there was a few standalone stand out episodes in that that kind of made it worth watching. But for me, the high school and I see when she comes a bit of an adult, when the sea episodes have come a bit darker as well, that was always like my time.
But I'll have 30 inches of the other, so that's me just being awkward. We won't go down that route. That's an argument for another day. Well, that's the top five.
I'll get the disclaimer out the way with and we'll get cracking because it's a lot to get through. So everything just goes to cheers up, sort of our opinions and our opinions a lot. If you would like to discuss anything from today's episode, please come and join us in the Facebook group where we can have an open discussion. What we want to have is anyone coming for us and tell us our opinions are wrong.
We can all agree to disagree in fandom and so let's give it fun, give it kind and keep the toxic behaviour out of netism. Yeah, it's very well done, very well done. And if anyone's watching us on YouTube as well, I hope you have noticed a little Easter egg I've put in, instead of a little runt in villain's thing, like our very own goodwill who is the nastiest piece of work you'll ever meet. So, You're the lovable person you'll ever meet, but you have to just look me dead in the eye.
Unless you're fluffy and like a cat. Oh yes. Let's get on with the villain shall we? So let's start.
So who wants to make us start? Um, well let me kill it because she's not been on for a while. So I'm starting on. You can start us off.
Oh, right. I've been talking, I was very excited to do this and I've been trying to stop. And I have gone, but not my favourite villain or favourite films. I have gone for people, characters that I would not want to meet and like would just be somebody very toxic in my life.
So I've gone down that kind of route because I would have just picked co-star and things like that. So I have a very non-movie, it's not obscure at all. So I'll go with me more snowing. I'll be honest, I did have money on that.
I thought you would just pick all Disney villains. So that's my bet going out the window now. I probably would have it like that. I was thinking a little bit, a little bit differently.
But when you were between first one, which someone might have picked because he's a very known character is Biff Tanning from Bad Future. And I know you've just had a bit horn-pond cast on him. And as you just said Donald Trump, I was like, this would be the best. And I picked Bad The Future 2 because you do get the Donald Trump and the F-5.
But he's just a horrible person. He's just nasty. And there's no, you're never like, you know, like a lot of villains. You can feel so for them and you get like this.
Rooting for them. You do have a rape for him. You all want it to fail. He's a fun to watch.
I think the actor is brilliant. What's his name? Thomas Ed Wilson. And to know that he's an absolute sweetheart in real life.
It's kind of like makes him more like fun to watch. And he's a fun to watch. You want to watch a villain who just doesn't care and there's no more out to him. That whole film is perfectly cast.
And I think he is probably one of the best. I was, I told the story last week on the podcast about The Back of the Future Ride. And how the reason we go on it as much as what we did was because of him. And the way that he is in that ride and some of the things that he sees and the fact that he shall put it through like an echoed room is just magical.
Since last week's podcast, that's all I've been doing is calling people but it's but he is a quintessential bully. That's thing that stands out. Everyone kind of knows a bit from growing up. Like anyone that's why he's so relatable.
And you kind of, as you said, there's no redeeming call. Even when he gets his comeuppance, he's still a bellender and you're still thinking, he's just more of a kiss asked than anything else. So you kind of like happy that he gets what happens to him. But then it's like, you can never root from him.
You never get a lot of villains when you watch. They get the redeeming feature or you can see their point of view. And they've got all types of interests and villains. I can say he used this to complete dick.
And if they played him any other way, it wouldn't have worked as well as it did. Yeah. And I think in like every alter of the universe in that film, you can know. Yeah.
You can not have any of them. No. It just continues on in any dimension. Biftan is an over.
Yeah. No more worse. Yeah, more worse. No more worse.
He breaks the rule of multiverse. To be focused, I know the multiverse has been in comics for a lot longer this, but this is probably the first integration of multiverse and cinema. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
And I'm sure Sam's mentioned this many times. It's a huge film trilogy in our house. I actually love it. I watch it all the time and never, it's never aged badly.
And I just absolutely adore Back the Future. And I know this whole thing of remakes and reboots. And I know everyone said it, but like, you could just never do it. We did have a little discussion last week on the Back the Future episode.
There is ways and means that I think it can work. Just not seeing the same being or the same movie, I think, but like last week's podcast was probably one of the most fun ones I've had in a long time talking about this movie, just for the simple reasons, because even though just mentioned the villain, I'm smiling because of it. Yeah. That's what it brings to you.
That's what it does. I think it's the one film, one film that we'll sit and watch when they fall asleep. That's a testament. And I do like the second one.
I don't know about one of the best ones, but I look at when we got to choose one, two and three, they put them in order. And I went to one, three, because I absolutely love the second one. I just think it's so much fun. I don't get as wrong the first one is fantastic, but the second one is just funner and for a sequel to be funner.
Yeah, it's just one continuous story for me though, that's the thing. So that's why I slow other rings with me. It just keeps going. Oh yeah, why do we want that end?
Well yes, the first one is not on my dick, so I'm going to be sorry. Grandpa, are you not in yours? Oh cool, we've got, we've got a... Oh, Grandf.
Grandf's feet. No, you come back up. Come back up. Speak, Grandf.
I'm not still here. Yeah, he's still here. Yeah, all right. Before we lose you, Gantal, go with yours.
Okay, so... Just let everyone know as well. Like we can have a few people call it here, so Grandf had it fill in and like say, we are very thankful for Grandpa jumping in. It had very little notice to do this, so...
It's a three hours' prep time. I've been looking at my list following Mikaela's there and thinking, oh, maybe you've got a little bit too extreme with this, Grandf. It's not talking about the future where I think you guys are going to go, why is this my bus? It's not going to go back there.
Move it all. Okay, so I'm going to go with a villain from a movie that I've already talked about once before. I've brought up on the cult films, one of the main villains from Tony Smuts True Romance. And it's only a bit part.
The way that I've gone with my choices is very much around the writing and the introduction of your villains as much as it's character itself. I'm kind of basing it on the movie as opposed to the role. So I'm going to direct some from True Romance. It's only a tiny little part of the D.I.
He's been live for all of about five minutes in there. But from the moment the camera goes out, the drexel, you despise him. You absolutely want him to just be brutalized immediately because he's such a horrible, despicable person. And I think that is exactly what you want from a villain in a lot of senses.
And it was so well and so quickly. That's why I would put him in the top five because he don't need to establish his character. You've just got Gary Oldman in there being what I'm doing. I genuinely think Drexel is a Gary Oldman festival in a movie because he just owns the story for that five minutes and makes you want nothing more than to watch him die.
And he makes Lebbert print look good. Like that outfit, just that outfit is just horrendous and how he thinks he can get away with him bloody teeth. But it works for him. Like it really works for him.
You know what? I'm going to tell you guys because I'm on Bluetix, but I'm going to go and get a little bit of a dress and go just because that's funny. No, True Romance has won only white favorite films as well. So she would probably agree to be honest.
Gary Oldman, anything he does, like good but or indifferent. He can't say he's done anything really hard. No, no, I wouldn't even say Dracula. I don't like for many reasons and he is not one of them.
But you think they'll chop rock in there when Gran's done? Oh, dear. Wow. There we go.
Wow, Gran. Two people that make Lebbert print look good. Gran, I have Lebbert prints that was on. You could have them and he made an absolute piece out of this.
I thought she was going to say go well. I'm sorry, but we'll believe that. No, no. I actually do have someone to do.
Yes. Funny enough saying that about Gary Oldman, because I think he's just announced he's retiring. He's retiring from Akhys as well. Yeah, so I don't know what his last role was or if it's going to be anything like soon, but he says he's hanging up.
He doesn't need to do it anymore. So yeah, so go on him. So, like, say he's not one of these that's going to be making movies long after he should have or I'm going to get a little bit desperate type thing. But no, he's one of my favourite actors as well.
I always used to tell the mother that I would end up marrying him one day. Still being too old for him now. Oh, look at that. That was a comment on the man that got a little bit guilty.
I didn't have him. Yes, I'll go for it. I think with a lot of actors in Villanroll 2, a Gary Oldman, the perfect example of it, is you've got to be a bit hammy. You've got to have that bit of ham about your performance.
And I know one of them was Hamletic, which will be for a lot. It's probably the most pure Hammy as a performance going as a villain. So I think Gary Oldman does ham up well and know what he's doing. Yeah, I love these Camille and friends with Joey.
And he's teaching Joey how to be a professional actor by spitting on each other. They were like doing stick takes and then he got Hamlet on the next episode. It was just absolutely, he could tell he was having so much fun and doing what he does. But he is, when it comes to Villains, he is the best and you'll be sharp killer.
He's not on my list. It's not on my list. My list is good of all my names. We are just saying the chat as well.
Sorry, got subject just because good will have said it to his mum's birthday. So it's a happy birthday of Goodwill's mum. He tells us to listen to the podcast. So happy birthday of Goodwill's mum there.
Happy birthday, Miss Goodwill. I don't know. Good will can you post a picture of your mum just coming on the hardness? Yes, it's the news.
Sorry, I'm a little bit of a little bit of stuff like that. Yeah, it does. I don't know if I'm up, I'm up, Sam's mum because you're only watching today with Mickey and the Bean on. So, hi, I'm a mum.
I think, yeah, you've clearly not been watching any of these podcasts. Because if you did, you know that was common. John has actually said in the comments earlier, I wonder if Paul mentioned Sam's mum given that Mickey and the other is gone. Don't you?
Because she is, too. She's a very attractive woman. What can I say? Well, an agreement.
So we need to get Sam's mum on the podcast so that would be an uncomfortable conversation for me. So, if they do a Sam mum too, and we review it, my mum will come on for that episode. I promise you. I'm from the...
You're ear off about this. I think the audio announced that season too has been made. So, yeah. It is, yeah.
It's been made now. And she's just bought the second part of the audio. Because I think it's just, I'll have a lot of conversations about that for that. But have you got anything else currently you want to add to it?
Gary Orban? Not really. Three hours per hour. I'll let you guys talk.
I'll just go through all the shit in there and watch you just go on it. Like rabbit dogs. You sit there in your leopard print dressing gown. It's gone up before a bit, on us.
Well, that is such a perfect segue. Can I go next? No, because I'm going to leave you to ask for it. Yes, yes, yes.
So, that's a perfect segue. It's segue because what my first pick is Buffalo Bill from the Green Mile. Ah! Thank you.
Bye, Josh. Bye, Josh. I got sh**. Yes.
It is... You might see your face illuminated up because I do have a picture of an X-ray, but it is what you're watching from the Green Mile. And I was watching it clip last night of his encounter with Percy. He just came up on TikTok randomly and I'm like, oh shit.
He is like the quintessential evil. Like, that man is f**king awful. And I was like, he has to go on me list. And I was like, I'm going to really like stir it up because I'm going to see Buffalo Bill.
And people are going to be so little loud. Oh, it's so strong. You've got to stand up. She's done it.
Finally, she's got one. The thing about me list is just it's not me at all. Like, it's not... It is because it's everything that I love in movies.
But it's not something typically like people would expect from us. And Buffalo Bill is just a fantastic villain. You hate him from the second you see him. And you really...
You are happy that Percy gets that gun and shoots him. What's the guy called again? What's he got to jump in here? That's what he's got to be his role in Iron Man 2.
That's kind of never happened. Oh, I generally didn't mind Iron Man 2. If we were talking Iron Man 3, then the 90's his head would be us. But I didn't mind that.
Sam Rockwell is absolutely phenomenal. Whatever he touches, turns to gold. This probably was the best role I saw him in. Was the Green Mile.
I generally can't remember anything of his before that. Good will. Can you get to work, please? The here.
The forming. You can tell the grands on the shore. That's right. But yeah, Buffalo Bill from the Green Mile, who did the Dirty Young John Coffee.
Yes. Without him actually knowing he did the Dirty Young John Coffee. But that's why you hated them more as well. Because of that situation when you find out that little twist that's sobering and they're doing well worked.
Because it is cheesy and scheish, but you don't think it's that evil compared to that little turnaround. And it's horrific and weird. And that's what the Green Mile does. It turns your...
Everything preaches this all. It gets you all the different emotions all at once. But it's just a well done movie. Like with actors that have the colour, but everyone kind of plays off each other as well.
Like no one kind of outshines each other. Absolutely not. The chemistry in that movie from like even interactions with them. Percy, I can't remember the actors name.
Sorry, any play tombs and ex-files. Him and Tom Hanks, everything is just electric and apple. But with him, you know he's done bad because he wouldn't be on death at all. Or on the Green Mile if he hadn't.
But you just think he's a bit... Yeah, because of his antics of his behavior. You can't conceive what he actually did. And when you see it, it turns me stomach.
It really does turn me stomach. And I was like, if you can get that kind of emotion out of this, you won't go in. And it was literally from watching a clip. It just brought everything back to how I felt about him.
And this is why he's made my list. Certainly. That kind of goes with my first pickle as well. Look at the whole thing.
Not the whole thing, but watching a clip. And bringing the floods of memories. Why I despise this bad guy. Because he is a bad guy.
He's a pure villain. And he's one of the worst villains going in many films. And it's an a single, well, the third film of the series. Which I think it's fast, shitty classes.
The final film was the one that came after it wasn't up to par. But I've got the character with his hair, so I'll get him out. And we all know how much of a bad bear he is. This is a very bad bear.
And when Lott's all comes into Toy Story 3, you think, oh, he's this nice, cuddly bear. Smells of strawberries. The smell's gone now. But yeah, I've never hated a teddy bear so much in my life.
I'm watching Toy Story 3, how he traps my lovable, like Woody, and all the other characters as well. And how sinister and scary he was. He was terrifying. And Toy Story 3 had loads of memorable moments, like half-brick and moments when they say they're going to furnace and all-sad-whole and hands.
You think they're going to die to Andy finally giving away? But this fucking bear is sinister as fuck. Look at him. He's watching his now.
Who voices the bear? Oh, I'll get that one face, sorry. I don't know why, but I was just thinking as a cosy-gram. But cosy-gram is the sheriff.
No, he was just- He was Pete, I think he peed and the second one. He's thinking he peed. I'm trying to get lots of his voice. Sorry.
I'm just- the video was obviously a delayed on YouTube and I've just seen you hold it lots of- to the- not the bear. So, like, watching Toy Story 3, like for the first time, I don't know what a lot of people do. Like, watch it, like, quaffly. Only you could hear the bear.
Ned- Ned Beatty. Ned Beatty. Ned Beatty. I'm a character.
And he was- I think he's done a few things. Um, Superman- he was in Superman the original. He was- I think he was Lex Luthor's little partner. Oh, right.
Mm-hmm. So, he's been in a few things but not- he's probably not in the end more big, as Tom Hansel and the others. But he stands and he's the one. But, like, I'd say, as a Disney fan.
Has he made an impact on you? As a Disney fan or, like, say a fan of animation and stuff, I thought they made him absolutely sinister as fuck. Like, when he turns. So, you see, like, being all, like, friendly with the toys and stuff, he's gonna give you this good form.
But when he turns and he turns into the fucking bad bear, and then you find out he's like, Harper, he was given away a loss and how he was turned against society. And that- he's sort of a partner in crime. That big beardy was just fucking horrifying. And how at the end would he sort of throw them into the garbage?
And, like, he's got them all, like, you say your cult leader? He's brainwashing all the other toys. Ah, I see. I see it now.
That is such a good choice. Yes. That's my first picket, a lot so the scary fucking bear. Oh, bless that bear.
Right, Makayla. Oh, they're back to me. Right, which one am I gonna say? Right.
Right. I'll go with- There's a- Oh, there's a film? I don't know if anyone would say that. It was called, Promised in Young Women, a woman in a game out in 2020.
And it's directed by Emril Fennell, who's the woman who plays, my comments are named Camilla on the crown. So, she did this amazing film called Promised in Young Women. And that you could pick any of the men in this film. Well, I'll pick the main guy in it, who's basically just called Ryan.
And he's played by Bob Iram. And he is the quintessential nice guy. So, if anyone knows anything about the film, it's a woman who takes revenge on- she potentially drank and takes revenge on men who would take advantage of her. And it's all from a friend who was raped and filmed.
And she's taking revenge on the people who did this thing. And one of the people she goes to school with is Ryan. And he becomes a classic, it's a lovely man and a heavy relationship. And he's very nice.
And then there's a twist that's here. And so I don't ruin the film for anybody. But yeah, I like that film. I've just been on a tale of them talking about these type of men, the nice guys.
And I sure it's a very true open film too, especially like Roberta comedies. And they're a bit creepy too. And I thought like, when I watched that film, I was very much like, yeah, because it's the best time I've seen that again. Kind of the come up and if you see the film, it doesn't exactly work the way she wants it.
But yeah, I went for like the nice guy. And I think Bob, I do not understand his comedy at all. She picked an actor because he is quite, I think he's quite an activist and talks about these things. And very left leaning and very opinionated.
And she picked all these people in it, who were considered nice actors. And then kind of made them all fucking. All right. Sounds interesting.
But I like the idea of the spin on the trope where like all women need like say that, like nice guys, friends and stuff. I like very John Hughes, I pretty am thinking and stuff like that. Like everyone needs like a doggy and stuff. But so the main villain is the person who you think should be the trust in one, but then it just turns out to be an asshole then.
Is that is that pretty much it? It's not a twist. It's just the plot point. I don't want to spoil it for anybody.
There's a few people in the chat who's saying they're going to add a tool list. I don't know if I'm even saying it well, but it's a broad point. It's coming across really, really interesting. It's actually amazing film.
And I think with like what's been happening in the last recent years with me doing movement, people actually like talking about how we talk to each other and how we respect each other. And all these things that maybe 10 years ago, we didn't think we're abusive, how we talked now coming up. But I think they're still perfectly just plants itself. Because I honestly like modern films now, I'm like, haven't seen loads of them.
I used to watch the Ace of the A's on it. And we can tell these films, and they only watch it because it was an Oscar film. And she won for the director of Royal History, won the best ring for there. And it's just that 2020, you can feel that in like the universe now, which I don't think a lot of films are on that.
Yeah, because we're still going on, like saying in America, especially in America, like when I think of Cork Hock, here's where they didn't want to send in like the typical white guy who's from Good's background. The swimmer who sent them for a career, it would spoil his life, while I'd spend the life of the person who we attack. Yeah, I read the news article of her account of it, and it's heartbreak, and heartbreak. And I've not seen this film, but I absolutely adore the woman who wrote it when the Oscar for it, she's not only Camilla in the crown, she is also a patsy in Call the Midwife.
And she has the best, best dress, best fashion sense. And that's for sure, I love it. She is fantastic, but not a message. Can I just ask you to say about that, but the Brock Turner person, she wrote a book, she called Chanel Miller, and a book called No My Name, and then one, and it's absolutely amazing.
And I would definitely, I've done some how it ruined her life. It comes from the back of her news article, her news article, she wrote an article for a newspaper, and I was sure that's when it was called. So I booked off the back of that, because I read it in a specific riff. And yeah, so I think that film kind of, that kind of, a big thing about it is that in college, that she's in America, we do have a little video.
And I think a lot of documentaries on it too. College men, getting women so drunk, and gang-reaping them, and then filming them, and having no repushions at all, because they have stars. And it's all that, and it's hard watch, but it's freaking brilliant, and you should definitely watch it. But he's horrible in it, because you don't have that, like, he, you don't have that, you don't have that thing, because you've been playing throughout the whole thing, that you're a good guy.
No, certainly. And it was up for, in, I was in early 1978, he was a kid, so it was called. It was like a American, like, it was set like a documentary, but it was about these American teenagers going out doing drugs and basically having sex and stuff, and what one of them had, and it was basically, didn't know about it until one of the last of three slept with, like, because he called himself the Virgin Virginia D.Taker, wasn't it? Or something like that?
Oh my gosh! And it's a hard watch, it's a hard watch, because, like, one of the girls, who happens to, like, things, like, what she wasn't sleeping around, she wasn't sleeping around, she was the first guy. She, after the sea, she spends the film trying to find this guy to tell him, to the point where she goes to a party at the end, and she gets threw up dope, and someone d aeropter. Oh my god.
That sounds horrific. But it was a ban for a long time, like, say, because it's not easy to watch, stayed with me after I watched it for a while. But yeah, sorry to take that down a tour. No, that whole pick turned a corner.
But I was expecting it, we're talking about villains, you know, there's a reason the fucking here is. So moving on to Grant now. Oh, Grant, so follow that one. Make it a bit more like harder.
Indeed. I don't have any, like, picks up before I go any further, but that's absolutely stunning, Nick. Oh, thanks. Absolutely the dog promise, and what, your woman, I think, is a part of the work of art of a movie.
Anybody in the chat hasn't been thought of it, fucking watches. So, how am I following a movie about rape? The 70 million. Oh, yeah.
I'm not saying a Serbian film, but I am picking the villain from a film that imagery was very, very close to the savagery of a Serbian film. It is possibly the cruelest film I ever watched because of how it's filmed. The character is currently called Latiana, who is the main villain in 2002, is a reversible. Oh, okay.
I remember this one. Yes. Yeah. Anybody that hasn't seen a reversible, it's an experimental movie about the young girl that gets raped, but the entire thing is filmed in reverse.
So, the movie starts out with two unknown characters getting dragged into an ambulance, and all this kind of stuff, and you have no idea what happens, and it works its way backwards from that point. In the next couple of scenes, you find out that these two guys have hunted this guy down for whatever reason and stalked his head in with a fire extinguisher before, but they had obviously got beaten in the process, and it works back a few hours and back a few hours and back. A few hours and two pivot scenes in it. Obviously, I mentioned before that it is a movie about rape, the rape scene in this film is more than one of the most uncomfortable things I ever want.
It truly makes you despise that person after you, you spend a lot of time not sympathizing for him, but because there's a little bit of you don't know what's going on, why this guy got killed and what have you. It's almost like you're maybe wondering whether it was justified or something like that, and then you see this scene, and it absolutely rips your heart out, and then there's more to come after that. It just cements him as the worst person on film. I think I've picked this as probably the biggest villain, for me, absolutely disgraceful character, but that's what makes a villain.
Yeah, it's one of them. Sorry. Is this one, can we spoil a little of that, sir? Nearly 20 odd years old.
Oh wait, we all go for this one, don't worry. Oh yeah, it does that. I think at the end too. It's not him, it's not the villain who gets attacked.
He just takes this person, isn't it? No, it's 20 years old, because it's working its way backwards. Obviously, she gets raped, and then there's the life before, where that was a little bit good, and it's just when socializing, and at the very end of the film, which is the beginning of the timeline, you find out that she's pregnant. So all of that, all of the audio that you've just watched, the final thing is she's pregnant, and there's a quote at the end of it, is on the screen that time destroys itself, or something like that.
I'll have to Google that one. There was a lot of films around about the same time I came up, especially from the French, because I wasn't the same time that Martyr's came out as well, and stuff like that, or around about this. I think Martyr's a little bit later, but don't go on that way. No, just because I know, of course, I'm not one of these people, I'm a proper soft shite when it comes to like, gore and like horror and like stuff like that, got me wifed.
For some reason, loves it, I don't know why. Is it a bit mental? Um, I've seen the film, I can't remember too much about it, I never enjoyed it, I'll be honest with you. It's not something where I think I watched it once and I thought, never again, like kind of experience.
But I can understand why people would like hear these people, or hear it like the villain in it, but it's just, I get it's probably down to a taste, or like what people can, like something put, I can understand why it's on your list, it's just wouldn't, again, I probably went for the family's ransing. Yeah. Don't get me wrong, I'm watching this on multiple games. I think I've watched it twice, you know.
I think it's admirable for the subject matter that it's a film that you don't want to watch again. Yeah, and it's not, yeah. I've seen it twice, and the second time I just, I couldn't watch it, I just don't know. And I was, but you have to watch it, I think, anyway, just my opinion.
Um, as an art piece, something that is, is how it's film that acting in it, and it's got, it looks beautiful, like the phone of it. And I'm sure at the end, that at the beginning, it's somebody else to kill because they get the wrong, they think it's this person because he smashes the guy's head in, and then I'm sure he walks out the club or he walks out where he's coming from, and it's actually got the wrong person this whole time. I'm sure even that's like the kicker of it all, that it's not even that person, he doesn't have to get even though he's come up and I completely wrong. I can't remember the last time I saw that film a few years ago.
But yeah, when you watch the end of it too, it ends just beautifully. Like I can watch moneyability every single minute. I can just look at it because it's all gorgeous. And yeah, it ends and it's, you're like, oh that was happy.
And then you're like, oh no, I just watched all this. I forgot I'm not happy. Yeah. She is one of the most beautiful, like beautiful, stacked, stuck.
She hasn't done as much as probably work as you were expecting. I think she was expecting the blow up after the Matrix. Was this the name too? We loaded that she was in.
I think that was supposed to be going to make her big break, but she never quite got the start of that she probably deserved, I think. I think Hollywood maybe, but in French, Italian's in a marriage is quite a no name. Mm-hmm, not definitely. But I think it's always like I say a different outtake.
I'm not well versed in like say foreign cinema and stuff to see it, to be an expert, if that makes sense. I've watched some stuff. I think it deserves to be on the list just because of how uncomfortable and how it makes your field. I think as a film as well, it's one of the hardest revenge films that you can watch out there.
I remember watching like say, was it the Hills of Eyes and the Rainier version? Oh my god. And actually after one scene, I was like, that film will never be watched again. But it's...
I felt the same when I watched X-Men on your career. Mm-hmm, definitely. Right, so... Ooh, Sam.
Oh my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Great.
I'm going to go with this one because it's kind of following in the fourth easy to stick motherfucker in real years. And I've swapped him a few times because one, I can't pronounce his name. And then I was like, I'm not going to go with the one I was originally, but without cusset, it was an honorable mention. And he was...
When I was thinking of villains, the first one that came into me head was this guy because he has just saw fucking evil. It's Ralph Fiennes in Chindler's List. And I'm going to apologize in advance. His name is Amon Goth.
Mm-hmm. I really hope I've said that right. And I apologize, refusefully, if I have not. What's the problem in that?
Yes. What's the problem in that? He's absolutely... Anatic conchosis.
Oh, he's the fucking worst. Like, the worst. You have a Mormon in that film where, you know, how we talk about complex villains. And you can kind of see where...
Where the... A Marvel villain, for example. You can kind of see what... Why they're doing it for it.
They have a purpose. They have a reason. You might not agree with it, but they have something. He had not think.
Absolutely nothing. But there was one Mormon where I was like, Oh, hang on. And it was when he's in bed with his Jewish bit on the side. And you think, Oh, hang on.
He might... There's something... There's something he can get. And it's not.
He's not. He's just absolutely pure evil. Yeah. And a real person.
Because every time I google him, the actual person keeps coming off. And now we are searching for him. Oh, God. After the day, I wouldn't be surprised.
But everything from the film is exactly how his life played out. He worked in a concentration camp. He was the worst of the worst. He just had no regard for anyone's humanity that did not fit what he believed in.
And he was executed at a concentration camp. I've watched a lot of films and like say, in the teens. But not in the teens. I've actually got angry watching this movie.
I could feel myself building Bill and Bill not getting more and more angry. I'd say the character kind of how good like Ralph Fiennes was. Because he's done some different movies since then. But I actually wanted.
Like, you know, when you want someone to get hurt or killed in a movie, you're like waiting for that to happen. But I say that always stands out. It's the same when he's sitting on and thing just with the sniper rifle. Just looking around and saying, oh, this one, I'll show that one.
He's in my casual wear. He's chilling out. He's got their competing extra. Like, it's nothing to turn him.
That he's doing what he's doing. It's just it's sick. It's disgusting. But it doesn't make a good movie villain.
Like he doesn't do the job in that one because it is. I think the same for me. It's the one where the woman because the other, the thought that will work and the thought that were there to build something. And then the woman is like, this will work and like, you can't do this.
And she's a shooter. I was like, okay, I have to shoot her. And it's just like, there's not empathy. There's no nothing.
It's just what is that thing? Just getting the best. And I think with things about Nazi history and that, they did a TV show. I didn't watch it.
So I can't comment if it was good or bad. And it was about Nazi hunting. And I had these scenes where they made, I think I was the first episode. It just couldn't, it just wasn't for me.
And there's a scene where they have all these people as a chess set. And it was quite like the fictional scene. It was like, it was bad enough. We don't have to make up that.
They were worse. They were worse. They were these people. And I think that's what Refined does really well.
It's like, what was saying about how many performances? You can't ham that up. That's what they were like. It's not a cartoon character of a Nazi, but I think a lot of people will make it this, this and this.
And will make it worse. But no, it was bad. We just couldn't, we could just show that it was really bad. It was really bad.
We don't have to start with. We don't have to pay attics to it. I think like as you said, how many acting, if you go from like, Refined's doing this, or Trail in Chinner's List. I like that.
There is. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
That's what I'm saying. Oh, look. Look, two of all the more. The best performance I can be acting in Brooch, where he's that company guy who's sent what he calls Colin Farrell to Brooch, who killed the kid to die.
So he can have a fairytale like memory. And he clears his cockney gangster. And he's got the most ridiculous voice and gone. I don't know.
Everyone's not going to have seen him, Brooch. No, I haven't seen him. Oh, it's hilarious. Colin Farrell crot drops a midget.
Wow. Does the midget stop about having a real swag and whites and blacks? But it's honestly one of the weirdest but most hilarious and darkest film, but Refined is absolutely brilliant in it. I would recommend watching it.
I think it's normally on Netflix. But it's definitely one to watch. If you like, if you like one, that's just a simple story, Dylan. But done because I think the Gleason's in Dominique, it's his name, Gleason.
And he's in it. One of his, my friend. Yeah. Brendan Gleason is it.
Yeah. This isn't Dominique. But he's absolutely brilliant in it. Like, just the conversation.
It's a film about conversations. And it's just like some of the conversations that Colin Farrell's dealing with. He's a hitman that actually killed the kid. And he's kind of turns and dealing with that.
But it's just not one of those. I can watch it anyway. I have heard the new film that they've just done together. And I think we're the same back there and did directly.
Oh, right. I remember what it's called. It's the same. Real thanks.