Now what's recording? Hi everyone and welcome to the Nodie of North Podcast. Nodie Podcast was invited to know the nurse and one of your host Sam. Now I'm the host ball, it was a little bit stressed.
No, it was a little bit! You're juggling like spinning so many players at once. Yes, so yes, this is the Whitney Nodie podcast and hosted by myself and myself and myself. Myself and myself and myself and we've got two really good to see.
I would have called them lovely but they've been absolutely balanced to start with the next. So, like... Yes, so I've got friends of the podcast back on tonight. Martin and Jake.
It's me, it's me, it's M-R-D. Oh my god. Oh wow! So yeah, this week with Brojic and Martin on because we wanted to do a top-eyed wrestling list.
Which I am so excited for. We've been practicing the match all man, we hold corgons. Ah! Oh dear.
So, before I start though, I've got a question for you all. Go on. Are you ready? No, no, I said R-U!
Ready. No. For the four of us in attendance and the three thousand four hundred and nearly up and off is watching at home. Oh, let's get ready to podcast!
Yes! Wow! One before the end. Oh, that's all.
So yes, if you can't tell, this week's podcast is all about our favorite wrestling. So yes, we'll be talking about what got us into wrestling, what we love about wrestling and also our top five wrestlers of all time. So it's, it's going to get emotional, it's going to get quite graphic at times, I believe. And but with these two on as well, it's going to be definitely not boring.
I'll tell you that. It isn't. So, just before we get started, as always, just to say that everything that we talk about a day is just our opinions and our opinions alone. If you don't like it, then come and join us on the live feed and get in the comments and tell us.
And oh, join us on the Facebook group. But other than that, we just want to keep the toxicity out of notism. And I have just looked down at my phone and I can see the live feed and we are pretty crystal clear. The picture is really close to me.
Hello, Donna! Hello, Donna! A friend of the past. Hello, Donna!
Oh, bless her. Shall we have the other move? We love you Donna! We love you Donna!
And Charlotte and Kev. We love you Donna! We love you Donna! I don't know any other.
I don't know any other. I don't know any other. I don't know any other. And Kelly!
We're going to come on too. We wanted to come on too. Oh, sorry, Grant. So, are we going to get this short kick off?
Yes. So, before we start with the top 5s, just a few questions I want to ask before we start getting into the nitty-gritty things. I'd love to know how you start interested and what was your first experience with it. I know Sam's talked about hers previously, but I would like, because I know she's been looking forward to telling me a story.
So, start off with me and really Sam, shall we? Oh, me! Mine started with my as a well-known, because I mentioned it before with my grandfather. And we used to watch English.
It was it with me, we watched English wrestling, you know, with Big Daddy, Dynamic Kid. And it was a name that I saw today and I hadn't heard of for a long time and I have wrote it down. And Kendall and I was like, holy shit! It's like, oh, coming back to us.
Yeah, I used to watch it with me, Grandad. And then just totally fell off the day to just fell off it. And then in the early, the late 1990s, through to the early 2000s and just a little bit beyond. And still the day really, I still came on top of it.
I was hardcore into wrestling. Like, it was my life. And I'll talk about that throughout me pics. But yeah, I just saw it ridiculously into it.
Like, that's all I thought about. But yeah, so you think that started with me, Grandad? Oh, of course. Well, my story is actually pretty much exactly the same as that.
I guess my grandad must have been like a big World of Sport fan or probably just saw some random live stuff up in the North, because it really only started when like, WDRF was kicking off in like the sort of 99-2000s at a 2D era. And yeah, it was just like having him sit with us and watch it. And it was one of those things where it's kind of like the first thing where an adult had gotten into the same thing as me, if you know what I mean? So it was like, I could have had conversations about stupid wrestling.
Because nobody really cared about video games that much in my households and stuff like that. But for wrestling, it was like, well, I've been equal now with my grandad. Like, we can talk about the thing together. Oh, I totally get that.
Because we were the same. Like, I've always said this, I was trying to be mounted in a trip. She confirmed it. She says, like, if my grandad was live a day, it would be a complete and utter note.
Like, the reason I am in the majority of the stuff that I am is because of him. And wrestling was like a massive one. Like, we used to get around the telly. Like, we've watched the English one.
And when he was the first one in our family to get Sky, we used to watch the Pokemon. We were not allowed to participate in cheering for anyone else in the British World, though. That was a given. Had to be a media device, could not be, couldn't she get anyone else.
But I told you guys, actually, I was the same. And it was kind of like, you never told us it wasn't real or anything. If you know what I mean? Yes, yes.
But like, you know, like, we both sort of had an understanding. But it wasn't as if he was like, going, oh, then stupid wrestlers on the TV, look at that. They're not really going to let stuff. Just going to get like invested in something.
But yeah. Yeah. No, I quite like that as well. I'm relaxing now because I put the ear to it on the YouTube, like, hopefully the one table's down.
So that was what I was stressing about. Sorry, Keith. We can talk about hardcore matches. Yes.
Yeah. And what about you Martin? How did you get the wrestling? The same.
And all the way. Yeah. Yeah, I was the same. My granddad got wrestling.
So I used to watch ITV Sport, World of Sport, on a Saturday afternoon, you know. I used to watch kind of, like you say, big daddy Shirley Crabs 3, giant is. Stacks, the British Bulldog, Stylomike Kid, and Kendall Nagasaki and guys like that. And then gradually, as we got cable, eventually Sky, we just watched WWF Superstars.
I became a Big Hulk and maniac. I'm always there to conclude Shane the 80s, but I was a Big Hulk and maniac. And then just as a kid, you know, I've got all the video games. Kind of had every WWE and WWF video games from the first WrestleMania up to battle grounds last year.
I used to get the cereal, the ultimate warrior cereal. I don't know if anybody remembers it. I remember the same. I remember the same.
I found interest in that. The last on the back of the box. Yeah. Had the figures and the LGN figures used to get the catalogue every month or whatever the WWF magazine, you should watch Superstars watching the pay up of views.
Yeah, just loving kind of walking brain, maybe like Hulk, and an ultimate warrior teacher. So we're kind of like the rockins film called of the day and we have like rival t-shirts and I'd say the wrestling ring and the form belts as well. Yeah, so it was kind of gradually rewising the and then Sky and yeah, usually watching like BJ Kat, if you remember him on Sky, WWE vs. Stairs on a Saturday morning and then the pay up of views.
One of my favourite favourite views was wrestling in the nine of Caesar's heartless. Looking back though, it was an awful pair of views. No. I remember that was the only take a message.
Yeah, Jack Gonzalez. Yeah. But now I have to go to half thought you were going to come on with a Hulk, Hulk and T-shirt and do the whole tear it off. I was expecting all of you to see that place you want for you.
I mean, I can slightly prepare. All right. Oh, look at him. Careful, make fully be coming to pin you for it next to us.
Don't worry. No, it's the only speed one. It's not the 24-7. That's nice.
I'm not going to rock that the best. That and then the Undertaker rock that two-pows in it. So you're going to sight all the best. Yeah.
We'll bug a red Undertaker though. Anyway. Mine was a little bit kind of similar, but definitely wasn't the grand for the parents or grandfather or dad. It was me, Mom.
Really? Yeah, so we didn't have Sky. So me grand parents used to tear things for us. And I was keeping an episode of The Simpsons.
Like the Simpsons just began every Sunday on Sky 1. He thought he came on dressed and he was the teal of us. And we granddad left the video on record for too long. And brought him brought the tip and afterwards.
I think it was like a repeat of Saturday night. And I've come out of this main event. And me mom was watching it with us. And I wasn't really that bothered.
But then all we heard is the thing tune. And this crazy, crazy guy with F.E.S.P. And sprint into the ring and just going, oh, I'm on the ropes. I was like, what is this magical shit?
And I'd say the physicality part didn't really come. Comprasal Leeron, it was more like the characters that drew to us. I was, because back in the day, it was very card-on-ish. I know that they made card-on-ons about it at some point for Saturday morning TV.
Like, say the old bit warrior, like, totally opened the eyes to what was out there. Like, say what was it, very, very Piper? And we had Scott Shacham, like, said the British Bulldog. Like, say, I was devastated when he never won a title.
Like, say, when you look at all the different wrestlers for the times. And he was one of the ones I think at my age before a certain event. He hadn't won anything. He won a battle royal, I think, like, in the 80s.
Things actually came to fame. And for a wrestler, as good as he was, I always expected better and stuff like that. And then, like, say, as I grew, more, like, say, you're getting a bit more on it. But back then, it was purely down to the card-on-ish, crazy characters.
Like, cocoa, but what-be-wearing stuff. And, like, say, I'm out of the energy. We all win that. Yeah.
Yeah. Exactly. I was always a WWW, well, F fanboy. But then I used to, like, hit WCW with a passion and stuff like that.
So, till I got older and experienced all the type of styles, I was always, like, like, say, the one of the ultimate WWW, WWW, the WWW, the WWW, the F fanboys. So, that was my entrance into the world of, so we see, like, Kreslin and wrestling. Yeah. It's funny to talk about, like, paper views and, like, tapes and stuff.
I used to have to, like, me grandad had to, like, get somebody work with Sun to, like, tape the paper views for us. Because, like, we couldn't afford, like, what was it, like, 15 quid every month? Like, for, like, a paper view. And then, remember the similar vision videos.
Yeah. I had a couple of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.
My uncle's a massive, was a massive, my uncle's, like, an enigma. He's, like, ex-metler, like, love to wrestling. And he used to have a massive collection. I just imagined, just this booth case, just came up on tapes, on tape, on tape.
You were, like, spoilt your choice of how much that he had. I would, honestly, I would love to think that he would have them now, because I have a busy ugly, but I definitely do. I definitely go, oh, gosh, should we kick off the list? Because I'm really, really, like, I'm, I'm, like, like, starting the list.
Oh. Speaking of old dog, winning a title as well. Remember, it's just on a Sunday. So, it wasn't really a arena.
When he beat Brett Hart. Wow. That was an amazing moment. Yeah.
When he beat Brett Hart. Yeah. That was, I would say, I want to, like, say, what was going to plan on do, do a few picks to start with, then talk about, like, a few of our favourite, like, I would pay reviews of matches and stuff, just do, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I'd be very interested as well. But yeah, so yes. So, some, as you said, kicking and screaming, you want to go first this week.
I'm just not having a repeat of what happened last time when Jake was on, and I didn't get a chance to pick any, because it all come up and I said, it's probably the day. I'm going first. I just want the one. And then I'm happy.
That's what I'll be fine. And my first one is, if anyone knew me around the time, like, around the time of when I started watching wrestling again, they would be angry if I didn't have this as my top pick. There's my all time favourite, favourite just a favourite wrestlers. He is the man who can sell the stunner, like, nobody else can.
He is the most electrifying man in sports entertainment. He is my rock. Dwayne. Dwayne, the rock Johnson.
That's on the rock. I was the rock. I mean, too, I was obsessed. When I say obsessed, I had a six-foot poster of this man on the back of my door.
And I was just literally, like, it wasn't even the rock, the sauna, that really got us like the one that we know and love today. It was the, the, the nation of domination when he was in that, he was just such a power and force. And the match between him and Big Show at the Royal Rumble, where he was put together to touch the festival. And that was, that kept, yeah, that kept me gripped.
Like, and then you go into one of my favourite, just the second, it was like a time between another one. And a paper views, which was backlash. I wrote the date, I made sure I got it right. backlash 2000.
And him versus Triple H. The rock versus Triple H. One of the best, in my opinion, stories and rivalries that is ever graced the WWE. Because the chemistry between them two is just absolutely electric.
And leading up to that, you had like stone cold with chucked in the mix, you had the DX Express getting blown up and it was just that night, it was so magical for us. I stayed up, I stayed up, it was on channel four. Yeah, I still have watching on channel four. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I stayed up on channel, I fell asleep just after Tristratis got put into it, put through the table by the Dully boys. And then I woke up just as it was about the kickoff, just as the promo had started, like everything that was leading up to this night. And I was screaming my head off the four o'clock in the morning when he finally won the belt back from them after the shit show that happened at WrestleMania, where I was like four big ones and a quarter. I'm never gonna go his way.
But yeah, I just love the man so much. You can't deny he has some of the best Mike skills that the business has ever seen. Like he's wrestling isn't that brilliant. Like he's not.
John Cena asking some of the moves. Yes, yes, but at least he's not a match or man who didn't really have any moves. He just gave it flailed about. He's not a great wrestler.
I'm sorry. I mean, he's better. He is better than Google. But he's fine and spider.
Oh my God, I didn't mean that show. I didn't mean that show. Yes. Oh, the more you don't know.
Oh, school girl, I was gonna say a match or man. Good wrestle. That was it. Oh my God, I love my show.
Why would I say that? I've never seen no single match. I'm getting it now. I made a mistake.
So yeah, anyways, he's just perfect. And I get to buy all of your silences. Nobody had him on the list. No.
I was gonna ask was that not was that much you love before? Like the Iron Man match. Yeah, I mean, was that you? Yeah, I did not like that match at all.
I mean, the only part I liked about it was when Tika came out and then I was like, Oh, the cross. Yeah. Is it because of Kina was like, the takers coming back and up for like, yeah, like I do remember sort of like that match, but it was probably just starting to take a bumble. Yeah, I mean, matches can bore me.
And especially when you don't like like, Triple E it's needs someone who can, who can move around a lot more than what the rock and the rock. I do not just think the rock's like very, he has a set amount of moves and Triple E it has a back catalogue that he can go to like, and it just it drew out so much. But I am not just a competition. Yeah, I think going back to the rock, I think it's really a mise and I think it shows like the, like the, I'm trying to think the right word, the intensity, like the want to do well as well as much as the rock is I know, like you can see why he is now in the movies and how much he's pushed himself.
But the gimmicky was originally given like that Robbie Maira, Eric gimmick and then like silly the look was terrible. He's finishing move was a flying crossbody, which is absolutely abysmal. And I know at the time with the whole click behind the scenes and stuff, they were really trying to push him down. So he had a lot of obstacles to get by.
He came to the level was. Yeah. So again, it shows you like the worth of them on he pushed himself, like no one else has helped him. Like say, I know, like say at the time, he got some dodgy gimmicks and I'll get one in the nation, the domination kind of spurred him on a little bit.
But again, he was always a back story to that. He was, but then when he started to become the forefront, he was the shining star out of the three of them. And you had some big names in there and he still managed to overpower them. They were just a nothing in the end.
He was the one who was moving forward and then he comes into the corporation, which I hate the corporation rock, by the way. I hated the corporation rock. That's not that I love him. No, I just became.
Don't get it wrong. I still, I still loved him. There's nothing he can't do that I don't love because it's just something I know. It's so cliche like he is the most electrifying man in sports entertainment.
But he really is. Like he really has that's something that just grabs your hand. And even if he like he's rumored to be coming back because the spaces, they need him. And but I still, I still would go and watch him.
I still, I would be totally. But once we found every film he's in, I've watched like I love Jungle Cruise. He's good enough. He's an entertainment book.
But again, genuine, I think sometimes he comes across as a nice guy in real life. I know sometimes it can be a bit too much. But I think from where he started off to where he's where he is now, it's unbelievable. You wouldn't see a rise in star or anyone go through the last.
I never get anyone like him. I'm not a guy again. No, no. It would be like a five.
I was just going to say he was like a breakout star as well. Like even in it was like wrestling like everyone knew who the rock was, even like people's parents and that's like my honey loved him. Yeah, my dad, my dad's a white cliche on fan. And when he did it does a murder.
I was playing that all the fucking time. Yeah, we would play that song. Like it was the only song I would allow him to play it from his album because it's hard to him. I had his book, like I've read his book a million times.
And I just, everything that I could to do with the rock I had apart from. Action figures. I never collected wrestling action figures. That was only thing I never had was figures.
I had a few of them were good normally. No, they were like, no. No, I got to stiff. Yeah.
Arms like arms were weird and had like a trigger on the back. Like the WCW figures did have better articulation, but then you only had the WCW. What is that? The solids up there, those that really got to talk about the lesson figures.
Yeah. That was good. So yeah, there's my topic. So you can find most yourself about the lyrics.
Cool. So I'll let the guest go first. I'll be polite. I'll let Martin, which one would you like?
Yeah, go for Martin. Yeah. I'll do polite. Fine, yeah, go.
Yeah, one of my first ones here is probably going to be like one of the first guys. I fell in love with. It's got to be Kane. Oh, you were a kid and I were like, well, yeah.
Oh, for sure. So yeah, like I guess my probably first experience watching Wrestling World Rumble 2000, I think a friend just like brought a table over. And I've kind of never seen much before, apart from like whatever bits you would have seen the Superp Culture. So yeah, I got in around the 2000s sort of era sort of tailored to the actual year when Austin wasn't even there.
So it is a bit of a weird time to get interested. But yeah, Kane was just like a real monster, like on screen. I mean, he was obviously going for Michael Myers vibes anyway, because he even did like the head tilt and everything like that before he started talking too much. Michael!
But yeah, like he was just like amazing to like see, like he was just huge. He was bigger than everybody. He was like invincible. He would do like a sit-up thing whenever he was like getting beaten up and stuff like that.
I think we're Kane as well. I think he was only last post of last a few months as well. They didn't have much plans. Yeah, and he stood the steadfast of time.
And I think the only time I didn't like Kane as much as I originally did is when I was on Mastem. I kind of lost the mistake. That was very weird. Against that VD.
Because we all obviously thought he was like really ugly, a scarred or whatever. I mean, he's kind of weird looking. But not totally ugly. That comedy sucks on his face.
Yeah, it was just really confusing. I guess as a kid, like that time I was just like, what's going on? I didn't know. I didn't know.
It's not a bad thing. He's back as well. I think we're going to trial that for a while, having a weird bald spot here just to make him look freaky. But yeah, it was internal scarring.
Yeah, Hunter Ru, Hunter Ru in a character in one second just did his mask. Well, the best time with Kane was when he was with China. Like, it is one of my favorite moments is when China leaves DX to go to the corporation and then to end up tag team and clean in WrestleMania on, say, 15. And you've got Triple H versus Kane, which was an amazing, amazing, amazing man.
Yes, that one is so cool. And then China, this is the Kane who goes back with Triple H. He thinks she's back in DX. But no, she's not.
She's both joined the corporation. That's like the weird thing about Kane, right? Like obviously, he's like, very huge, like perfect, restless-sized, scary. But also like the Dulies, we had like emotional arcs with him where he gets like, like, great bi people.
It's like, it's like, the take is like dirty little secret. Like, it's coming back to Hordem and stuff like that. Oh, the Kati Vic storyline. Oh my God, Kati Vic, that was awful.
I was watching then. I wasn't watching then. Just need to hold a record of eliminations. I'm not a Roman Reigns beat.
Oh, fuck off. I hate Roman Reigns. It's coming in the new report. Let's not talk about Roman Reigns, not even the Rockwood Health, that situation.
And that's it. And my favorite part of the Kian thing was Kane held on, or him and Bryan, and- I was just gonna say, Langer Manicman was brilliant. He's got an dispatched tag team partner, is more Kane, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I do have a soft spot for X-pop, even though he's not a minimalist. I have such a- it just the man himself, so I did like it when him and Kian would- But he betrayed him as well. Yeah, that's a sad thing. Yeah, isn't that around the Tory time as well?
Yeah. Who is with him? Do you remember his- Tag team, I love this theme by Uncle Cracker, the X-Factor. Oh, no, that's an X-Factor.
Yeah. I was like, just incredible in my hand. I think he was incredible in the car. Oh, God.
That was a good theme to the phone. It was guilty pleasure. I try to think though, as well, because I'm sure when though I'm masking, it wasn't around the time that he was doing the film St. No Evil for WWE, so that's why I don't mask him.
Yeah. Yeah. I didn't see that. I think I had like all the novelisations for like 99 Pence or something, because that was a big K in Mark, but yeah.
Oh, so I got the mask on it. No one's too expensive. I've got me iron. It's too hot.
It's got to be through it. That's my- If you want a good one, it's like 200 quid. No. I'm thinking about it.
Smokin' a great theme. Yeah, the guy on the master was like, which one? No, it's okay. It was like when he unmasked the game and I'm like new music.
It was just like a cover version, but had singing, you know, like a highly-forceable entry and gave everyone lyrics. So not entry was great, I was- The name sounds great. It was very 2000's, yeah. I thought it was WrestleMania the music 5 or something, where it had the rocks in it.
I- Oh, the pie. Yes! How did we not talk about the pie song? Oh my gosh, that's just brought it all back.
Rocks unfortunate impression of a Chinese lady. Oh, yeah. Two top half. Oh, oh, oh.
I'm not the lyrics. I know that lyrics still got the last we sing it, yeah. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh my goodness.
Gonna say as well, because we can't mention Kean and not mention his previous persona before that, as Isaac Young. Yes, the famous- Who did he use to work for? Was he like Ted Dibiasi's evil dentist? No, no, it was the only- It was the only thing that was the only thing that was the most.
That makes much sense. I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah, yeah, because I read him at heart, had a, like, I said, rivalry with the king. And so was he hit punch the king and knocked the two-vote and that's how Isaac Young was angry, that Brett Hart had messed up Jerry the King Rose tape. I think he was the first- I think he was a Christmas creature as well, which was like- He was- And he was fake- He's all as well.
Yes, he was. He was. That was so- They were last. So, Martin, who are you guys?
Well, I'm gonna- There's three, I had to leave out first, and I'm gutted out to leave, but I will- Ric Fler, and I'll- Forget that dark side of the ring, the guy was amazing. Kurt Angle and AJ Styles, I'm gutted out to leave the note, but I've left them three out. Firstly, yeah, I'm gonna- He's not my number one pick, he's number two, but- My Undertaker! Yeah, he's- He's in the top five, and it's not just because of the presence.
He's reinvented himself, but he can move for a big guy, the guy from this, and he was incredible. Great character, even when he reinvented himself as a badass, you know. And it was great to see him come back for- as that in the Bona, that's last year against the Phenomena Lager Styles. But yeah, great- great mover, you know, like just watching him do his old school move, literally called the old school, and when the ropes, the guy could move, you know, he was phenomenal for a wrestler than his guys.
It was used to like when he would like go backwards over the ropes and land on his feet as well. Yeah, yeah. That was pretty impressive. So cool.
He has some of the most iconic matches, like the Mike McFolly in Undertaker, you cannot not talk about wrestling and not have that in your conversation, because that is one of- he like, you can tell he really doesn't know what's going on half the time, because he's kind of like, especially when Mick gets thrown off the top of the ring, he's like- He was doing that with the- He was doing that with the broke- Wasn't it? I don't think I had a broken up, but he was doing that much much, yeah. Oh, wait, oh, the amount of injuries that happened within that. Oh, it was- that was just not Mick followed up, was it?
Now it was before he had a broken up going into the match, and he was so pissed off that Mick followed up the ring, that he actually did something around a bit, because he gave him a kind of- Yeah, kind of there. Because the other thing I said, do not go at the top of that top of that and the fact that he went up, and he couldn't not follow him, because what's he gonna do? Yeah. Come back down, come back down.
He's honestly one of the most respected men within the industry. He was so loyal to Vince, and then he's- you know, the whole rough letter, like doing the whole- even though I don't know if you remember this, nobody gave a shit about Undertaker's WrestleMania streak at all. I can never remember watching a WrestleMania, but it wasn't until it got into around like the 18s and 19 mark, the people started to go, oh, come on a minute. Nobody gave a muggy's, and they almost- The comments I never mentioned it, like, no, right.
I don't think- I don't think it was ever planned type thing, and the only thing again, this is not me shitting on the end, because I do like a- he did go on too long, and I did tarnish his legacy a little bit, because some of the later matches, that one match with Goldberg brought my heart. Oh, yeah. That was just uncomfortable, uncomfortable to watch. He's- Yeah, unfortunately.
Like, unfortunately- Unfortunately, he has become a bit of a parody of himself, and he's done some like weird stuff on social media, like been like, pro guns, and like all that crap. Yeah. Wearing like new lives matter to each other, and we'd like antagonistic stuff like that. It's not like to break K-Fate, no.
You know, with the fact that he's really not so much. He's like, we know he's not a zombie, you know? No, he's not. I didn't know.
It's not like a zombie. Oh, is he a wizard? Like, is it a literal wizard? That's a thing, because he can shoot lightning when he feels like it.
Is he an extra massive zombie? Did anyone else get really obsessed with that? I'm not a matter of these- I died to York's- You're a prisoner. And he put me in the- Oh, but you were going to say when Maven eliminated him.
That's all I was doing. I was thinking- Oh, oh, oh, oh. But you were sort of putting the cock in the casket and the dragon mount and then in the teletropop and it came up and looked like he's- The bullet so that he's going to take a spher. It was leaving the casket.
Yes, I remember seeing that. But yeah, like he used to die every once in a while, I guess, for like, injury reasons and then come back. Get back to it. Oh, yeah.
Then he's 20 when he came back. He's incredible. But like, have you noticed as well how like recently is like rest in peace catchphrase? He does like a weird like noise at the end, where he's like, raised in pier.
Or mirror. I don't know why, but he has started doing that every time. And it's silly every time. And then he's like, I don't know what he's doing.
I'm not sorry. Oh, you've got enough. He's like, I don't know why. I'm not going to be like, I'm not exactly.
Yeah. Yeah. I can say it was some of the big matches with the other day. I can say it was- Sean Michaels.
Sean Michaels, the two ones, was absolutely perfection in a wrestling ring. It was the wrestling ring. It was the rest of the year. 25, one of those, the good one.
Oh, I can't remember two of them. It was next year. You thought- Him and- Both of- Sorry what you saying that sound? No, no, no, no, no.
What's what- No, no, no, no, no. Um, like I said, Sean's Michael's match was one year, that was a year after it was just like, say, even better, even had the emotion of, um, being a bit of Sean Michaels retirement as well. And as much as, like say, a, I know he has his up and downs. Like, say, we've used him, Sean Michaels, due to the wrestling, but they're matches.
I don't think they could have had it with anyone else. Because Sean Michaels is, as I said, he is the state, the wrestling ring, the state of the- Mr. WrestleMania. But, um, the Undertaker was absolutely on fire.
That's when I think he should have called the idea. Yeah. Yeah, that would have been perfect. Why you should have ended the streak.
But I think- I think- I think- I think- I think- I think we've- because Undertaker, this is the kind of person he is, like, as Mark Cowaway, he will do anything to push anyone over. The main event situation at Royal Rumble, it would have been his idea to do that. It wouldn't be anyone else's- it'd have to have come from him, because he is the guy who wants to get the other guys all, because he wants to be replaced. He just- he wants to do it on his terms with the people that he wants to do it with.
Um, were you trying to tell us? Sorry, I was just saying about people over at a weird point. Do you ever hear the Caudy Rhodes interview where he was talking about, um, he was in a WrestleMania match, he was only young, who was just out of doubt. Yeah, against the- No, it was a Royal Rumble, Royal Rumble, and he came in and he didn't know what to do, and didn't take it, pulled him one time, but look, you're gonna hit his as hard as you can, and you're gonna drop it, because I'll fall over.
Then we'll do whatever, and he went, the only take his letness hit him and follow up. And nobody, and the only take his day with this for us, that's- like I said, he was putting- because someone not at that time, not on the Undertaker of his fate, was such a big, big deal, and what he won't say. He would never forget that, he said. Now there's people in the WrestleMania business, he loves and hates, but he'll never love them to take it for what you did.
And when he had the match, yeah, and when he endorsed, he had heard he after the latter match from Raw. Yeah, he did. He did. He did.
He was like, he was in like loyal to Vince to a vault, perhaps. Almost to a vault, yeah. Did you ever hear about the backstage courtroom? Yeah, I guess.
And then the ticker was judge and jury basically. He's got a silly little gavel that he keeps in his boot to the stick. He's stuck for the Rock, went for it, and Sean Michaels, which rines the whole of the Rock back, on the ticker basically steps in and was like, no, the Rock's kind of, you know, easy is a future. Yeah, Sean Michaels matches him, we're talking about earlier.
Did you not remember the Triple H matches he used to have? Yes, I just thought that. I know what you mean, they were really good. The Sean Michaels ones were amazing, and it was, it should have been a career stopper.
When the three men walked out. They went and selling this triple H, yeah. Unreal. I'm so glad to see you had with him, we're great.
I've never been a Triple H fan. I know that's a thing. I've never really liked him. I think, as I said, with new sets, he's got, he's one of the most limited new sets I've seen in a while.
Again, that's just my personal opinion on all four things. No, I don't know what you mean. Yeah, no, oh my God, yeah. And me to the fierce clothesline.
When I was comparing him in the Rock earlier, I just think because the Rock really doesn't have a lot of movesets, but I always thought Triple H could sell a lot of things better and move around a lot more than what the Rock could, but that's just my opinion. We're about the same size as well, so like Rock and Triple H, which was a good match because they're kind of like the same size. The Triple H at that Golden Sledge on, did you hear that story about Triple H with video games, WWE video games as well? Screenshots, you're not.
When did I always unveil the latest WWE SmackDown game, SmackDown vs Raw? This is a true Triple H basically sent out a thing to the PR. He said that they will not allow any screenshots of Triple H in a vulnerable state where he's being attacked, where he's down on the mat or anything like that. Any screenshots of the upcoming game, half the short Triple H in control.
All right, that's strange. All I know about Triple H in games is that you can use it as a test to see how good the game is, like how good is Triple H's hair look? Well, SmackDown vs Raw? It's like Soling's like, yeah.
Yeah, it's ridiculous. No, he's cut off, so we can't do that anymore. No. No.
No. He's done a hell of a lot for NXT and probably... Oh, a mum though. I love the mum.
And he's got it. Yeah, he's done a hell of a lot for NXT and especially the Women's Division. I can't. I've never really been the biggest fan of him, but as a person, I think he'll never get the opportunity to do what he really wants to do.
As long as he's alive, he will never be able to fully push forward. But for what he has done, I've always liked him. Yes, he'll make an amazing career source. Oh, yes.
So that was Martin's first pick. I can't believe we just won all first picks. Well, so that was the undertaking. I was going to try and see if I can do the eyes.
Well, no. No. Okay. So this is not the topic, but this is the one that probably I've loved.
It's a technical wrestler. This is the one that got me into the technical side. I thought the craft was brilliant. And even like, we're going to like, in Dixie, we're going to lag, we're going to arm, and he would use the BSM match around that.
And it brought the element a little bit more real, even though he makes, he's went on record and said he's never injured up anyone in the resident business that he's been in the ring with. And it's similarly the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be. He's actually my master. Yeah, he's actually my number one.
So yeah. Excellent execution. Yes. Just for someone to wear pink and be like, you know, in such a manly type of business, he wasn't the biggest guys.
Like, he's went on record and says that he did have to put him in the steroids and stuff at the time and Vince wanted to be bigger. But as an execution, as a storyteller, some of the matches you go back in history and they are the best. The match we're giving stone calls with Ken Shamrock as the referee. That dear, I thought wrestling was real.
Yeah, I watched that match and I would argue with my friends here, you called wrestling fake, watch this match and tell me it's fake. Because you could not tell it was brutal, it was absolutely phenomenal. And even though the absolute, you hear each other and end up being the reason why Brett left the WWE effort at the time, the matches were Shawn Michaels and Osam, you mentioned that I am a match has been the most teary as much as there is. I agree completely, but I am a match with Brett and Shawn, whether it went for a whole whole hour without a pinfall, without anything, was done perfect.
And the storyteller in that hour was just magic. And I'd say I love his books as well, I've been reading these books. They're so honest. And I think that's one of the things, like I said, a lot of wrestlers you don't get is like an honesty and he loves wrestling.
You can tell it's in his family, if you go back to his dad's shoe heart and the dungeon, how many wrestlers came from that dungeon as well? Like big names like Chris Jericho. Again, I don't want to mention the name of that. Well, Chris Benoit.
Mentioning a poll. Mentioning a poll. Mention it. He was part of the wrestling industry.
You cannot talk about wrestling sometimes without bringing him up. He was absolutely atrocious, but he was still part of it. Yeah, just going to caveat that he was a big old criminal at the end of this. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. Oh, yeah. Can I just say one thing and we'll get it out the way with now? I don't like it.
Oh, you were the ones who used to boot Brett? Yeah. Well, I totally missed Brett and Tiley because he was like, well gone before I started watching. Boom.
I know he's good. And what you were saying about being honest is interesting because he's been honest the entire time, even when he's been having a bad time and you can tell he's done some really grumpy interviews and cold, everyone awful. Oh, yeah. He's turned around at this point.
And I think he's a lot happier in himself. And he's now being honest about that. Yeah. The honesty train though, sometimes I think needed to be said, especially along the lines of Seth Rollins, when he went down hard on Seth Rollins about how he's a de-interest wrestler.
If you could injure so many people as much as he has, then he'd take him out of the ring and he was dead. I think he's dead on when it comes to stuff like that because he's, he is a very, he's an amazing wrestler, but he can be very sloppy and it's proven to have injuries. I don't, I was never a fan of Brett, but as the man that he is, very rich reminds me of the man who I really love. He's not on me list, but I love the man so much with Brian Danielson.
He, when you talk about honesty, you can't get any more honest than reading Brian's book. He literally said in that book, I don't need to WWE. I've never needed WWE. I could walk into the industry and make just as much money, have more of a life.
I really don't need them. And he was so brutally honest about it. And I think he worked with Brett a lot. And I think it rubs off on people the way Brett is, the way he brings himself into the industry.
It rubs off and you can see that through Brian. Yeah. And like I said, Norm Martin, you said he was your number one pick. So I'd love to get, like say your, like your take on the, as I said, the pick of Black attack.
Well, there, it was, you know, in the Hat Foundation, we're a great tag team. Yeah. You know, yeah. You start as a tag time as well.
Yeah. That's the thing you always get. I had a series as a kid. I would appreciate it.
And yeah, it was great. You know, he could wrestle him up and make him up look like, you know, like the best wrestler on the planet. It was incredible. But, you know, just, yeah, it was a shame it's a WWE career kind of ended the way it did.
But it's so iconic. The whole like, we're still talking about it today. It's 27th anniversary or something on Tuesday. Like we're still talking about this event today.
Like it was shit. What happened? But look at the way you went out. This will be talking about for years, one year, as to coming it has.
It gave us an evilness. It gave us an evilness to McMan as a character. It was a self-tender to 11 as the sixth. The biggest thing was when Alber killed this career or in the VCW with that kick.
I'm the back of the game. But, yeah, didn't he have like a metal plate to like stop Goldberg's spear or something? Like a metal plate? He put a, yeah, actually like a big entry on the thing when he got cleared.
Yeah, that was, as Martin said, that kick, that Goldberg done, that was brutal. I don't know if you've seen the deal. Yeah. When you see his head snap back, it's...
I will never watch anything with Goldberg. That man should never have been allowed to step into a wrestling ring ever. Because he kind of not wrestle. He's dangerous.
Chris Jericho was said so many times how dangerous that man is. He should never have been allowed to be in charge of anyone else's safety because he's fought careless. You know, like, should never have been wrestling. Yeah, loved.
Do you ever say he's... Well, I think it was his first or second match in VCW that got me in the ring with William Regal? And I was in the list as well. And at the time, I think it was called Stephen Regal at WCW.
Yeah, it was. And he was pissed off. Stephen Regal was putting his own with this person that the one was the footballer. So he didn't do it.