Hey everyone and welcome to the Nerdy of North Podcast. It's a Nerdy podcast hosted by two Northern nerds. I'm one of your host Sam. And I'm the host Paul.
And today we're joined by two special vampire guests. One of the guests we've seen before. And we have a new member to the coven shower this week. So Donna, a former, sorry, a former Nerdy of the month.
Because the title's been taken away now. And her lovely sister Sam. So we've got two Sams on the podcast, which is not going to get confused at all. So hopefully you can tell the difference between the two.
So how are you two today? We're good. We're a little unprepared. Sounds like us.
So that's fine. This is the title of this week's podcast. Fun prepared. The vampire, sorry.
Yes. The vampire chronicles. The vampire chronicles. Oh dear.
Never seen the show. So I can't really comment too much. Nope, either man. No.
Good stuff. So yes, this week's Halloween themed podcast is all about vampires, how it's been shown in movies and TV shows. And even literature and comics on my touch on as well at some points, because they all have played a part in some things. And I think it's probably one of the oldest type of movie monsters out there.
And one of the most interesting, I think, and has the most lore. And have so many variations, but similar in the same way as well. It always kind of interested me as well. When I was a kid, which is a little bit bizarre, but it's been scary.
It's been romanticized. There's a lot of different elements to vampires. And the stories are all behind it. So before we get started as well, as Sam always like to do, I'll get wrong before I forget.
We'll get a little disclaimer out the way. Yeah, it's just a disclaimer to say that everything that we talk about today is our opinions and our opinions alone. And if you don't like them, then that's fine. From another conversation with the designers on Facebook and comment in the comments in YouTube.
And we just want to keep the toxicity out of fandoms. There we go. Now we did vampires. Whoa.
That was the voice I was going to try and do at the beginning and bold it. I've got plenty of opportunities to show ourselves up through this. So I think I'll be fun. So before we get started as well, we always do the guests to introduce themselves a little bit.
I know if Jeez, I just think down his eyes, that's as quick as ever. Yeah, you're looking like a kid more. No, because I can say the bright light is showing the thing about Jeez and Spock. I've created a little bit, I'm not going to lie.
But that's fine. So we'd like to have our guests introduce themselves. So if you want to tell us a little bit about yourselves, we know a little bit about Donna, if you want to tell us a little bit more. And Sam, tell us if your nerdy credentials are obviously it.
Of course. OK, I'll see you first. I don't really know what else to say about myself. I'm glad you know that I was on the sun, and I was known as the month.
Was it last month? Yeah. Was it on the basis? Because I've been two nerds in the month so far.
But you've been three times a month. And say that you've recently launched your edC gauge again. I remember saying that. Let's back up and let's talk luminous and covering.
And yeah, I have more loads of stuff coming tomorrow. Well, actually not so. Saturday, whatever the date is tomorrow. Everybody wants to know when you stuff coming up somewhere.
But yeah, here you go. I'm Sam. I'm a nursing student and a huge Buffy fan. So I think that's why I'm here.
I also like a very nice stuff and I helped on everyone. So I'm sitting on. Cool. So sister's up there together as well.
So cool. Oh, I didn't know the sister group. I'm not the only one who's had just thought of that. Yes.
This has been on twice. Yes. And she'll always be on again and again and again and again. And again and again.
But yeah, so this week we thought we'd change it up a little bit from our top fives. And so it would be a little bit mean. And just have done it to us her top fives. And then have a discussion from that.
But what I wanted to ask you guys as well, to give a little bit of information about vampires and what your, like, say, a fragrance towards them. So I know there's been that many changes and that many laws. What is your kind of favorite type of aspects towards vampires or the history towards vampires? What was your job enough point for them?
Do you want me to go first? Go with your boss, Eddie. Go with me. And I don't know what draws it at.
It's probably the same answer for everyone. You don't understand what draws you into it. It's probably is the sexy side and the romantic side of vampires that does attach you into it. But that isn't how I got into vampires.
Because I think my first, I don't know why my hand is doing this whole, but I think my first view and fall in love with vampires is probably through a lost voice. And that's not very sexy and it's not very romantic. But it is very much my time. I think a lot of people would argue against the sexiness of lost voice.
Because yes, as an adult, yes, I agree with that. But as a child, not so much. Like I was looking at how badass and how cool the looked and the lifestyle that the lead, because I was all about one in that American lifestyle. And that was just the epitome of it with vampires.
But then as my gothness grew, I got heavily attached to it and right. And it was not just interviewing the vampire, the film, but the whole vampire chronicle she did. It's the first fictional book I can hand on, and I can't see how red without physically putting it down. If I was vampire, I could not put that down.
It was just fantastic. And the fact that the film and the boob are very similar. There's not a lot of difference in there. There's one element in the boob to the film that I think, if you put it in, would have just been spectacular.
And it would have been like a very moment, but it never did. And it would have been in room for us. And then obviously, the Queen of the Damned, which is a spectacular. I can't tell you how fantastic that boob is.
I'm not going to say that way. Oh, no! The film is atrocious, not just even looking back now and thinking, oh, god, that does not age well. When it first came out, it's not the Queen of the Damned story.
And I was like, it just doesn't make much sense. And what's my other favorite one, Pandora's Box, and the vampire Amanda? I just love that. And I also wanted to live in Louisiana.
I still want to live in Louisiana. But then as I grew older, I go back to Valle de Gossi and Christopher Lee and look at them, but how they did like Dracula. And I absolutely love the Dracula story now. I never appreciated it as a child.
But I love about it, even before in case. I absolutely love the boob. I love the, I believe Gossi's just perfect. After the perfect, as I'm personally was a phenomenon.
Certainly. So the lovely ladies below, will you give us your jumping off points? I think for me, I think the last one of the first films I watched all that I was in, it's really hard to talk with you. LAUGHTER Yeah, I think it's a bit of a bit of a slow down as well.
LAUGHTER Yeah, I think that's when I was younger, because when we got to the top set, I was just going to see that. I fell in love with that. I think that we teenage years, I just had a love for vampires. My email was vampiricaddiction.
I taught me how to put it in here. LAUGHTER It's hard for them to like that. But yeah, I've just always had them. They just cool the bad ass.
And there's also the sexy side to it as well. So yeah. Yeah. So I mean.
Well, for me, I grew up with my dad watching things like Blade, The Lost Boys, and kind of got it from a young age. But the first proper show I like movies and I say was both of you you that I watched. And that's where my obsession with my playsgroup. Yes, the babies of the group.
So I was in like, well, in the teenage years when Buffy came out. So. Is this Buffy the film, not the series? I've watched both, but I mean the series.
I've seen this came out the year I was born. The movie was before I was born. More than a suppressant, man. Why do you people come on here and depress me with your images?
At least I'll be moving this one then. A couple of less people come on. My side was a... Because I was always into like, I'm not going to say my exchange with Sherlock Holmes.
So I love that all Sherlock Holmes, I got black and white ones. And I think I was watching one on a Sunday or night and then the Hammer Horror came on after with the whole Christopher Lee and stuff. And it just felt like a Sherlock Holmes, but done like scarier, if that sense. Because I don't think the Hammer Horror's now are scary at all.
It's just fun watching. And it's all like looks and standing in the shadows. And Christopher Lee's performance is perfect. But that's where I got my interest from it.
It was like, oh, yeah, it's kind of like this type of thing, but done differently. And the more you read and the more you watched about them, there was quite an interesting character. Because it's not just a straight monster. There's things like there's rules behind it as well.
Like sunlight, like the reflections. I was always interested in how that worked, why that worked and stuff like that. And I said, garlic, why? I never really found out why garlic kind of stops garlic with that.
I don't think it was lovely and they don't think it was very weird. But that's my job enough point. And then, as we've got all the like being an 80s kid lost boys, I think everyone's going to say be touching on that point at some point. To me, what I liked about Lost Boys wasn't actual about my aspect.
It was the Frog Brothers. I thought they were absolutely hilarious. And the under comic books, to me, that was me wanting to be one of the Frog Brothers. So that's why I got involved with Lost Boys and stuff.
And the law grew from like, say, the different films. And I think everything changes kind of thing. So the other two big ones for me was Fright Night as well. So I remember watching Fright Night and thinking it was one of the most stupid but hilarious and also quite scary horror film.
It's terrifying. It is terrifying. I watched the original Fright Night not long ago. Because my first time watching Fright Night was the remake, which I didn't have to remind it.
But I knew the original, you know, there was something special there. So I went and watched it and it was really good. But just to jump back to the Frog Brothers, I met not obviously what you call them, Corey Feldman. And the other one, right?
The other horror. A couple of years ago, he is such a lovely guy. He had so much time for us. Like he was so nice.
And I'm there tomorrow. And Tim Capello is going to be there tomorrow. I'm so excited. He's so cool.
I think, like, say, we're going to get a lot of uploads into this episode but it's not going on a lot of adventure tomorrow to the Love and Hother. And then Manchester, not that Angel has been at work as well. So, yes. It's all interesting to see, because even though we've got different age ranges, like, it's quite similar where we did that into the Vampire's part.
Because I think there was a lot of bigger Vampire films, like a resurgence over in the 90s and maybe the late, like, say after that. But I love all the different takes and different versions of them as well. Because they're never exactly the same compared to what where it started out. Because I know originally, like, one of the first versions was Nostoratu, which was a bold, weird freak, which is quite, probably something like me to be fair when I see a little bit of a little bit of a skinnier.
It's just like, say, it's all these different interests and dicks. It's funny how a genre can be sort, be very the same, but in any time that it has a relaunch or a redo, it can kind of change. You've got the changes with the times. Like, look at, you know, Nostoratu, you've got Bellagorsi, then you've got moving to Hammer Horror, and then jumping into the 70s.
Was it right now? 70s or was that the 80s? 80s or was that the 80s? 80s.
And then you've got Lost Boys. And then you've got your blade and then you've got your smooth start to come out. And then you've got your trilate. It kind of just follows the times, doesn't it?
I don't think we've had that. That hour now, vampire, did that make sense? Like, we haven't gotten now as vampire franchise in place. I think there's been a few interesting, like foreign, vampire films that came out.
Like, let me in. And what's interesting to you? I just don't get that film at all. And it's blasphemy to say, I just don't get it.
I don't know, particularly a big fan of it. I think it's more, it's more than the horror, it's more of the innocence in it, because you never think of vampires as an aspect and a friendship, and what she does for him and the reason for it is quite selfish, you know, we're able to act quite like that one. And again, when I watched recently Blood Red Sky, it was kind of like a German cross between English, where it's basically this plane that's getting hijacked, which there's a mother that's trying to look after a son, who's turning into a vampire. And it's kind of like die-hard meets 30 days a night, which is just bizarre but done in such a good way.
We could never put them two films together, but okay. But it works, it really does work. It was on Netflix, I don't know if you guys watched that one, The first guy. And it's on my list, but I haven't got that one, I don't know what they've got.
So with it saying that, that's a good little turning point. If you mention the word list, so we'll go with your top, we'll see what your top five list of on iPhones is. So we'll go with the number one pick, just which one would you... Right, so the random one.
So the first one I'm going to go with is from 1992, is my know what it is, and it is Ram Stoker's Dracula. Wow, another hot take. I really don't like this film either. And a lot of people don't like this.
With Keanu Reeves in it as well. Well, Keanu Reeves acts since, according to the side, I still think it stands up as a good film, because as bad as Keanu Reeves was, Gary Wollman was fucking amazing in that film. This is where I fell in love with Gary Oldman. Actually, it wasn't that's a lie.
I watched the V, I watched the Nancey when I was younger, and that's when I fell in love with him. So this just amended my love for him, because I always said when I was younger, that I was going to marry Gary Oldman. Like, I still do an Audi fan. I still would.
And I knew to love him in this film, but I honestly find this movie so fucking boring. Like, I literally can fall asleep in the best few minutes of it. I'm really sorry. It should be, I can't show you my life.
I got shot at my life. I had no idea that the city for us, that the city for us. Oh, that's I, Ian. She was married to Jude Law.
All right. I know you're leaving. Don't know, I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to be there to shut the shop up, but, uh, so.
She played, Ian. She played, what's up here? I'm not going to go home. Yeah, the city for us.
She played, Lucy. I have no idea that that was her until a couple of weeks ago. Cool. Don't know, why is it one of your favorites?
I don't really know what it is about the movie, though. I just really enjoy it. Like, I wasn't, I got a couple of months ago, and I find it kind of like a comfort movie as well. Obviously, I'm not really, it's quite lavish.
It's like Gothic and, like, say the surroundings. I, like, I said, I mean, it's a meaner. Nina, I was just got some Nina Hana, a partner, and, like, say, and Gary Wollman's character. The, that romantic side is quite sexy.
And the three, and the three maidens as well. Like, when I was a teenage boy, wow. Yeah. Yeah.
If you look at the cast as well, it's not just like, I know Keanu Reeves gets a lot of shit for his accent, which is justified. I'll give him that. But, leave the cast in there, like, say, Anthony Hopkins is in that, as well as Van Heltsen, perfectly cast. And just, I think, as a, if you read Bran's story, it is quite, I can say, quite a true affection for it.
I have got a lot of time. I remember this when it first came out as well, because it was a big, big block, most especially for a horror film as well. Budget on this must have been a shitload, but yes, I quite like that. I know Sam probably doesn't agree with this, but yes.
No, it's not. I just find it a bit tedious. I feel like I'm drawing teeth while I'm trying to watch it. And Keanu is accent.
Why couldn't you just do what Kevin Costen did in Robin Hood, Prince Dave's? Tried the English accent when that actually doesn't work. I'm just going to use my own. And guess what?
I couldn't give a shit. Why couldn't you have just done that? But I guess, if you hear Keanu talk, it's very much like, he's a little bit of a dead character. So that would be interesting.
That would stick around for that. Cool. So what would be your second pick that I don't know? I'll also mention, you've got a comprehensive name, probably about visit.
When I'm going to write. I'm going to write. Yeah, but we're on our idea. I absolutely love her style of meaning in that.
So yeah, so moving on to my second pick is 1998, and it is really the best soundtrack for a comic book I'll ever. Who could not? San Diego Comic Con a few years ago, recreated the opening scene of Blythe's, got a full warehouse out, music going, and did the whole bloodbath, and the pictures that Keanu was absolutely phenomenal. Everybody else in the audience grew together.
And we were at the warehouse and go for it. So let's do it. It's been me, so she hasn't been excited. He's freaking out about that already.
So yeah, as much as I enjoy looking at the pictures of everyone else being dirty, covered in blood, I could not stand that. It just, I love it. I love featuring. I love her.
You want to be there? I think I saw her. I also was amazing that they got Tracy Lorde, sort of crybaby to do the opening scene as well with it. Tracy's awesome.
She's also in them, Zachary. I have to love Tracy Lorde. I think just cool as well. That film was my, my jumping up point of my love for Stephen Dolph.
I went hard core with my love to Stephen Dolph. I used to watch Blade and Judgment Night back to birth. Just once I finished Blade, I'd watch Judgment Night and go back to Blade and honestly, that was my night on once upon end. Or just because of him.
Now, I don't think I've watched it in nearly 20 years. Either of them. I thought, obviously I said that because we're doing a sunny con soon. Why don't you just hire a room and do everyone from sunny con to see if anyone freaks out?
Yes, do that. Just put the soundtrack on and just watch people's reactions and then you're going to know them. Just trick everybody in. And this is going to be a bit, so this is going to be a bit too young for this.
I remember being in Pizzazz, an nightclub in Sundant. Yeah, I know. I know Pizzazz. I'm glad to remember, but the used to play a lot of thirds a night for the student rock night.
And literally it used to go mental. Like literally, and everyone, like all these slightly students and gods and stuff. We used to have a big mosh hit on the dance. He's going to pop it in there.
You know, you'd literally stick to the carpet. Yeah, it was just a same crowd. Probably. It wasn't the nicest place, but it was home for us on a Thursday.
So this is, but does any of you like a blade two and three? Because I actually don't mind them. I like them. I even like electrical issues and one of them.
I really don't give a shit how ridiculous these afternays and I really enjoyed it. That was fun. I think it's the dog. It's because you've got a dog.
That's what makes them a bit weird. To be fair, Lord, as Ryan Reynolds made a bad film? Yes. Greenland.
Are you trying to tell me Greenland's good film? Ryan Reynolds wasn't bad in Greenland. It was just I think the villain for Greenland didn't work. I still defend that film.
I have to love Blade. Even all the elements. The only thing that was a bit disappointing from the franchise point of view, the really interesting character in the first one was the doctor woman that he gives the key way to, who's just turning around by. You don't hear from her again in any of the franchise.
I thought that was what we're playing this game again. Apparently it was a money dispute, so she wanted more money. So why did they do this? They're doing this all the time.
But we've got Blade's comment, a new carnival issue in Blade's with, God, she's conversing on that right. Wow, yes. That was so good. I'm interested to see how they're going to bring that into the Marvel universe though.
That's going to be... Oh, I don't care. Having a kevin in Scream and I cannot wait for this. It is just going to totally turn the MCU on its head.
We're going to have a dark side. I don't feel that the MCU has a dark side yet. And I think that's what's going to bring it out. I can't wait.
I cannot wait. And I think the guy who's playing him is going to be phenomenal. Yeah, I'm doing the... Sorry.
Music, look here. Have you seen him in the... Oh yeah, what do you say? Oh yeah.
He was such a good villain in that. And this is what I didn't get. And then I didn't care because I was thinking... Cos Marvel has the rule that if you play one character, that's it.
You don't. You just did. You can't play anymore. Well, the bro of the rule twice with Luke Cage, him and his cousin, because she was also in civil war.
Right. But I think... If I can't, I was just listening to him for that. No, no.
Like within the MCU, you can only play a one character. I think the KMM said that it's not coming anymore. They said the dead devil Luke Cage isn't part of the MCU. That's what I was going to say.
The Netflix deal is what's going to probably be there back out to say, well, that's really nothing to do with us. And it's not technically for it, even though their timeline is fitted into Jessica Jones, it doesn't necessarily say that their timeline is fitted in with the MCU. So I don't give a shit. I cannot wait to say him play the lead.
I think it's going to be phenomenal. I think that they actually come out and say that that's the reason that recasting these people is because they don't consider going to be using them in different way, their level of backstory is going to have nothing to do with the TV when it comes into MCU. I think they've done the same with Agents of the Shield as well. They said that's not a long kind of...
They're talking about what it's kind of the kind of... Yeah, they have, because it's gone toward me. They're in human storyline is too much. The MCU hasn't had the inhumans yet.
The TV series didn't do very well, so that's not kind of neat that even though I've actually enjoyed it, I didn't mind it. But the Agents of the Shield in human side isn't... It's too elaborate. It's too much to fit into where the MCU is now.
It needs to be brought in gradually as opposed to how they have done it, so I get that, totally get it. Cool. So two solid picks there, don't I? Are you going to go off in number three?
Yes, I shall go off in number three. And number three is 1996, and it is from Duske Tildon. The sexiest of them by a film there was? Agreed.
Agreed. I do like this one. That's a good choice. It is something I always forget this is generally about my film, because the first half of it is very much not that.
And then, that's the time I'm in the middle, even the middle bit, like when the first get to the bar, I still can't picture the vampires. It's not until Selma Hayak does a body, and you're like, yep, I see where this is going. Brilliant. Cool.
So what's your love of this one then, Donna? It's that whole bar scene. So the actual Selma Hayak, I went to turn into vampires because that was the big thing that totally shocked me. Because as I said, I didn't really see any trailers or any spoilers for this.
So I went into a thing that was going to be like natural-born colors. The titty twist I have and then I thought, did she go down in that bar? Did you see Tom Savini? You then have to think to yourself, what is going to happen here?
Something bizarre is going to happen here. And it was a titty-place sex machine? Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Because all the different characters have had quite a bit of interest in backstories.
Because even the big dudes who was talking about being in Narmen, stabbing people and picking chunks of flesh off his beard, going into that much detail for some side character was so well done. Exhipt using Cheech Marin, it is Cheeching it. But again, I would have thought about being one of the horror films that's being made in the last 10 years, what's probably been all of that now. Is it more than that now?
They're like 15 years? No, not when 2021. I'm familiar too. So 25 years.
So we were born then. Oh my god! You weren't even born when this film was out. Oh my goodness.
That thing was pouring the whiskey down our leg and it was my mouth. And then from here, it was amazing. I caught every time. Money looked like the penis.
There was so many interesting deaths in that film as well. Things went big. We're not using the table as spikes. Like, one fun good idea.
I wouldn't even think of it doing that type of horror film. You get the shock factors of Harvey Keitel's character turning and then he's playing with Sun, getting ripped apart, which was done in such a horrific way. You forget about Harvey Keitel in Julia Lewis. Julia Lewis is a fucking child.
She's like a middle-aged woman now. It's crazy. I know he pretty much plays the same character in any of these parties. There's what Quentin Tarantino was folk and sinister in that film.
He's awful. It's all bad, but yes. Makes his skin crawl bad, I think. That's how well he did that.
I'm just hoping it's not close to what he's actually like in real life. I hope not because I know Quentin couldn't get a bad rap from people, but I generally have a lot of time. I know a lot of time for the movies as well. I think that he was completely ugly evil in that movie.
And the only time I've ever seen it, him do something similar was in Planet Terror. His character in Planet Terror terrified the life. He was just awful. So before moving on to Donna's next picks, I'm going to pick on the other sister now.
So we'll go to Sam. So I know vampires and TV shows have been going together for quite a long time, but I don't think anyone has done it as well, or for the target audience that it was, as your favorite show. So do you want to give us a little bit of info and tell us why you love this show? That is all about the slip.
Honestly, as a young girl lady, I would say, saying Buffy in Power at the time was just a great thing to look up to. And I just felt like inspirational. And the story was so great and the character growth. And honestly, like, Angel's actually my favorite one out of the two.
But not many people talk about that show, though I feel like a lot of Buffy fans just stick to Buffy and don't bother watching Angel and it really confused me. I agree with you, Tony. Out of the two, I enjoyed the late Angel series a lot more than the Buffy one. I know I've got these, I think I've talked to Sam about before I've had issues with the season when Buffy goes to college.
I got bored through that, but it did still get better. That's where I joined. But that's where I joined is when she went to college and asked what I loved it from that point. The school part, the high school part, just I loved the monster of the week aspect.
But outside of that, I really wasn't that awesome. I thought the story wasn't that what you got to college. I thought the humor and it started to ambooping. That's what got me.
Sorry. I didn't mean the rubia. No, no, it's fine. But I liked the kind of topics.
I know you're talking about supernatural vampire film, but some of the topics were quite heroin and well written as well. I don't want to give him his credit as he probably will get because we're not mentioning his name. But the season and episode where Buffy's mom dies, that was absolutely heartbreaking. And it wasn't down to anything but, like I say, general, and illness and seeing Buffy's reaction that she couldn't fix this situation was just so heartbreaking.
But again, I don't think Sarah Michelle gets just as the credit that she deserves because she was absolutely brilliant in that episode. Well, you know the best part about that episode, the played no music. There was no background music played whatsoever and that gets you on edge. I don't know if you've ever watched a movie that has no music in it or a country for no men has absolutely zero score run in there and it's one of the most intense watches because you've got nothing to help you to know where the terrapoints are going to come at because the score in a film takes you know builds you tension and then it gives you the chance to release.
You've got none of that and you had none of that in this episode either so when she walks through that door and she's talking to my mom and we know we can see that. And you've got nothing to help. There's nothing building your up with her. You've got nothing to distract you.
And then when she says, Mommy, like I lit my shit. I lose it because it's a realization that shit. Yeah. I should cry for a week at that.
It was one of the most heartbreaking episodes of the whole show of my opinion. I think I think I was I would agree you'd more for what was when I was girlfriend called Tara Tara when Tara went to Harvard. I went in the morning seriously went in the morning because I thought she was one of the most beautiful and purest characters that they ever created out that show and for a to go the way. And the fact it's how she died as well like just shot by Warren.
No, no, that's not how she should have gone out and it's actually just what I think about something. Oh, no, you've got something on your shirt. Honestly, it broke as there's been two deaths fictional deaths that made me like going to a big depression. There's one of them in Denny from Grey's Anatomy that really caught me in a massive depression.
Happy shot. I feel like one of the most heartbreaking deaths in Buffy to me was Jenny's and Giles's girlfriend because he was like so happy when he walked through the door and there was a thing you ever rose petals going to the bedroom and he walked in obviously Angela said him got to her first or I was just like the look on Giles's face just brought me. Yeah, I think with that there was quite it was quite hard because with Angela's being a part of the team at a certain point in front of do that that that that's made it a little bit more heartbreaking at times. Yeah, I am the puppy did death's mind when they did them.
They did it hard. They were really really hard. And there was something that they get very hard to get over. I just I love when you get dark will all of the back of like the back of Tara's death.
And when Xander and her are at the statue and he brings that down I still will watch that today and all my eyes out. Xander was always the heartbeat of the show as well like he was always not the moral compass but he was kind of like the thing that kept them all together. In my opinion. I got lost towards the end of it.
I know he had his key points but what I was going to ask is as well with being on the Buffy subject. What was the most scary monster for you in Buffy. That's a tough one. Was it the gentleman?
I don't know. Like them ones. And that's the push. Yeah.
This one. The trip to the eventual bookstore in one of the first I think the best series that I don't do dolls and that just put the shit up as major league. Did not want to look out at space at all. Don't know what I mean.
I do not have a clue actually because I am knowing there is much as a Buffy both. I was a fan of it. Well, I grew up with a chant and I was a bit of a fan and I actually got like watch Buffy at the end and I'm actually started rewatching all of it recently. I thought I'm going to do a lot of it.
So, yeah. I was nice. I wish I could do that with series. Just like not just be able to wipe them from me brain and then rewatch it again.
I would love to be able to do that. My sister is a Buffy fan, not me. My sister religiously watched it. I jumped in hitting that one again.
I think that when I hit the college years. I didn't even watch the last series of the Western High School in the middle of the mayor and everything. I didn't watch any of that. I just jumped through it in college.
I thought it was hilarious. The roommate who was tornials grew when they put off. Oh, I mean, I think, decked. She was crazy.
I just made the movie as well. It was so good. We'll come to that in a second. The one character I wanted to talk about with Buffy that absolutely did scare the life out of me and I never thought it was because I love him so much.
Like, say I'll always be a brown court. Nathan Flynn's killer. Yes. I was about to say that.
He was menacing in a way that I've not seen in a TV show in a long time and how he acted and how he was brutal as well. How he took Xander's eye out just for pleasure. And he didn't say this and this is not a nine o'clock TV show. At least six times I got night.
And it was scary. And I just want to give a shout out as well for my home girl, Felicity D and Natalia and Buffy as well. I love Felicity. It was a debut.
She had no idea. She basically went to a casting call for Buffy. I had no idea what it was. Got it.
And I was like, I'm a potential slayer. Like, yes, I love these ideas. She's one of my favorite people. I'll do like that.
And just to go back to the early point as well, Angel was a good show and I know a lot of people more than complain about how Angel ended. But I actually like that in them. How did it end? It basically finished the final fight and then they're in the alleyway and more monsters are coming towards them.
And it's basically like an intimate amount of odds that they're never going to survive. So it just goes off like the Saffanos. So you never know what surely happened. So you don't know if they can't fight.
Did they not continue Angel like they did Buffy in comics? Yes. The day I never read them because to me that was always going to be the true cut-off point. I know fans score that way.
I know it's so funny. It does the same as well with Firefly. But to me, I thought it was just a pure nice ending where Angel didn't deserve. I know it's impossible.
It doesn't deserve a happy ending. He did too much bad. I've never seen Angel. I've never seen any of them.
So I don't know. To me, there was a few pointers of Angel. I really didn't. One of them was with Handel Charisma's pregnancy in the show.
I wasn't too sure I basically killed the character off. I didn't like that. And I wasn't a huge fan of the ending that we've had. That's why I'd say it always was going to be quite controversial because you never got to.
But you got the ending where she doesn't have to have that pressure. Where Angel was kind of like you don't know what happened. A lot of people like the finalizing. But I quite like as I've talked in the previous podcast, I like using me one imagination at times and thinking what could have happened or that brings a little bit more of interest.
And then everyone's viewpoint. But I quite like the way it was ended. I can see both sides of the coin because you can alligator make not be all mine. But when you invest your time into a program as much as what you probably do, you can walk on dead.
I'm invested 10 years. I fucking hate it. But I still can't stop watching it because I'm not so much time in it. I need to know how it ends.
But when you get that, you want to satisfy your ending. So to have it just cut the black. That's not satisfying. That leaves something open for nothing to happen.
And I thought we got told again. It's a strange one. But I know the promise of lots of spin-offs because I know there was a reverse JV that was meant to come out as well. But that never metabolized.
But I can see it doing a revamp. I can believe I made it up on there. But I can see it next five or six years. A Buffy spin-off, a new Buffy continuation could potentially be on the cards.
I'm sure that Disney just bought the rights to be a reboot Buffy. Not 100% sure I have heard it from a few different sources. Well, it's a bit of a fox. Yeah, it's foxes.
The Buffy and the angels are on Disney Plus now. So they don't have everything else now. Disney Meg as well. I would honestly buy you the next 10 years, Disney will own everything.
You'll only have the Disney channel to watch. I'll nail to the altar of our Mickey Mouse. I'll be able to make a mouse. I'm really excited.
I'm really excited. It's one of my favorites. I love it. I think it's fantastic.
What a fucking cast. It's amazing. I think you got Chrissy Swanson. What's he's face from?
I know she won all Luke Perry. You've got a Penguin's Herman himself. I can't think of him right now. Paul Rubens.
Paul Rubens. Yeah, you got David Arquette. David Arquette in this one. Hi, David Swank as well.
This one's in it. This one's in it. Ben Affleck. Affleck's in it.
Got about Affleck. I didn't even notice that. He's one of the basketball players. Affleck was a bomb in front of you.
There's a few people we were doing. I'm not the other one. I'm not the other one. I'm like an all-life person.
I'm sitting googled. What, instead of watching the show, I'm doing research on the person. Yeah, I mean, right side that. Nick does that at the same.
I went to a normal. But yeah, Ben Affleck, he plays the basketball player where the vampire on the basketball team takes the ball off him. He just goes for that. So it's a little cameo on the plays.
It's such a good show. And Ruga Hill as well. Ruga Hill as the fan. The Funky Chicken.
Again, another movie where I wanted to live that lifestyle and I made my friends learn the cheerleading. How funky is your chicken? How loose is your goose? I was trying to laugh.
The vampire lady should do a dance for us. The Funky Chicken for us. You don't like your mother's song? I don't like how the dance.
The funky is your chicken. We're going in now. We're going in now. We're going in now.
That's why. So this was meant to lead on to the TV series for Percy Swanson play and the lead role as Woffee the Vampire Slayer. That obviously goes to it's up but the story is continued on and away on the first episode because it mentions that you have a lead because of a fire that happens in the gymnasium which is what happens in the movie. The script is obviously taking part of the original script with Percy Swanson in it and continuing on.
So it kind of does link together the series in the film. The film was a pure piece. It was almost like a pendant at times. The death scene with what's called the P.E.W.
Herman was Paul Rubens was the most ridiculous death scene I've seen and actually cried laughing at him when he was like. Ooh. Oh, it's one of the more times I can't be dead. That can't be serious.
It's talking to me. I was like, right. Seeing him come back though as that character in what we do in the Shadow was one of the greatest bits and suck by the relentlessness of the world of the United Kingdom. I love Paul Rubens so much.
I don't love P.E.W. Herman. I just love him. He's absolutely phenomenal.
We love the white. What was that guy who got the feeling of the dark? Pike, is it? Pike?
No. I got the long one. What? The giant's coming.
Oh no, that was Eric. No, Eric. Eric. The Donald Sutherland.
He's like, wait. He's like, wait. He just had to do it. Me and Tom think shouted, aren't you?
We're all about the pendant show. But, wait. It was so bad in the movie. But, like, in my opinion, it was terrible.
It was a terribly good thought. It was like, if it wasn't for that movie, we wouldn't have the series. So, we couldn't appreciate it for that. I think at the time, I didn't see that the cinema sort of sky movies.
When it used to be movie premieres on a Saturday night. When he had a weird two years after it was released in the cinema before you could actually see the phone. I think I was around about, I think, 15 or 16. I've got it younger.