Netflix’s ‘Cover-Up’ Director Laura Poitras on ICE, ‘Domestic Terrorists’ and US Surveillance

The killing of two US citizens by federal agents in Minneapolis has made January a dark month for many across America. Both Alex Pretti and Renee Good were quickly labeled “domestic terrorists" by the Trump administration, which accused them of endangering the lives of law enforcement. Video evidence soon appeared to contradict government claims, but it’s still a label that filmmaker Laura Poitras says she finds chilling. Poitras has been producing and directing documentaries for more than 20 years, winning both an Oscar and a Pulitzer Prize for her 2014 work “Citizenfour,” which focussed on the whistleblower Edward Snowden and mass surveillance. She too has her own experience of being regarded as a threat by the US government and says she was on a terrorist watch list for years. Her latest film, which this week was nominated for a BAFTA, profiles renowned US investigative journalist Seymour Hersh. “Cover-Up,” on Netflix, traces Hersh’s life from his early days in Chicago through his scoops of the 1960s to his current journalism on Substack. It’s a story of media both past and present. In this conversation with Mishal Husain, Poitras also reflects on the role of citizen journalism in documenting government violence in places like Minneapolis.02:53 - “Legendary investigative journalist” Seymour Hersh05:35 - Poitras and Hersh’s Iraq connection06:40 - US public “failed by our legacy media”09:06 - Cycles of impunity09:50 - Criticism of Hersh’s journalism11:30 - Hersh quits the film15:00 - Hersh’s early life 16:19 - Poitras’ lens on America17:40 - Parallels between Iraq and Venezuela19:30 - “Regime change” in Venezuela 20:20 - Poitras under surveillance23:00 - Leaving the US24:40 - Edward Snowden and NSA secrets28:15 - “I’m very happy he’s not in a US prison”32:00 - “Cover-Up” and the present day33:33 - “Whistleblowers face the consequences”35:00 - “Citizen journalists” 37:00 - Mishal speaks to Poitras for a second time38:00 - Alex Pretti and the violence in Minneapolis39:30 - “Domestic terrorist”40:17 - “Journalists have an obligation”40:50 - A tipping point for ICE?  Watch this podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe4PRejZgr0Ns_wjGlmjlPz0cded0nTYSYou can find the written version of this interview with Mishal’s notes on Bloomberg Weekend: https://www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interviewContact The Mishal Husain Show [email protected] Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.