Never Not Working w/ Malissa Clark

Malissa Clark is an Associate Professor of Industrial-Organizational Psychology at the University of Georgia and Director of the Healthy Work Lab. She is the author of Never Not Working: Why the Always-On Culture Is Bad for Business—and How to Fix It.  Mentioned on the Show:Never Not Working (book): https://a.co/d/3xGh9q0Malissa’s website: https://www.malissaclark.com/Connect with Malissa on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/malissa-clark-0387991a/________________________Connect with O’Brien McMahon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/obrienmcmahon/Learn more about O’Brien: https://obrienmcmahon.com/O’Brien’s new book—How You Become You—is available now: https://a.co/d/22kZ0sV________________________Timestamps(2:03) - Welcoming Malissa.(2:24) - How did you come to study workaholism?(3:41) - How do you define workaholism?(10:48) - How much of workaholism is about the action work versus how you feel about the work? (13:21) - It’s normal for achievement to take a lot of sacrifice.  Don't we have to be workaholics to succeed?(15:31) - What is "introjected motivation"?(19:43) - How can we determine the difference between interjected and intrinsic motivation?(24:05) - What impact does workaholism have on your health and relationships?(28:46) - How influential are our phones and technology in fostering workaholism?(31:08) - Can you explain what "working light" is?(32:47) - Why is working light bad?(34:47) - How do we break the cycle of responsiveness?(48:05) - How do we let go of the guilt of not being productive?(49:18) - What’s an example of a mastery experience?(54:34) - Can you dispel the myth of needing employees to be workaholics for a company to succeed?(1:00:49) - What one or two things someone struggling with workaholism should do to start?