New Oakland receiver Jordy Nelson, Dallas tackle La'el Collins, and a conversation with Los Angeles Times Rams beat man Gary Klein.

Nelson on how strange it feels to be in the Oakland silver and black, not Packer green and gold, on his good fortune to be able to say he's played for two such historic franchises, on his feeling that the Packers never offered him a competitive contract, and on what he thinks he has left as a 33-year-old wide receiver.Collins on the tragic situation that forced him to go undrafted instead of being a first-round pick three years ago, on how good it's been for him to join the Cowboys and play on one of the best offensive lines in football, and what the moral of his zig-zagging NFL story is.Klein, with me, on the saga of Aaron Donald and whether he thinks the best defensive tackle in football will hold out in the season, on hat the Rams can do for an encore, and on the future of this rising offense and star coach Sean McVay. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.