Hey everyone it's Rachel Roberts and I'm Grace Rosen and this is the Daily Dish Bravo's official podcast. This isn't really a news and news episode. Wow you can't. I feel nothing but love and support in this podcast studio.
This is a regular news and news episode though. So where's the judge? Yeah and that's because we are recording this ahead of time because once again we're traveling like all week but we had to interrupt our travels because this was like the craziest week on Bravo Ever. Right I mean like everything is coming back.
Everything's finality. It's just like we have the season finale of R.H.A.W.A. It's just been like a crazy time. We've got Potomac, we've got New York, we've got a pop-ers all this week and we're gonna be covering them.
Yes so first up because it's Tuesday and the Real House of New York hasn't happened yet but I've watched it. Oh keep that to yourself. It's real good guys. We're gonna be talking about Potomac it's back season three.
Yes this has been your show since the beginning. From the get this is my first housewife show. Oh my god. Yeah it's a special place in my heart.
I love Potomac. And then later in the episode we're also gonna talk to or you talk to. I wasn't here. Ava Marcel from the Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Yes you guys she's so shady and so beautiful. She's like a tree. Oh yeah. Okay but let's talk about Potomac.
Can I just say I love I think with like the Mary to Medicine Curtis Dr. Jackie cheating treatment where it was like this thing happened and then like news news news news. One of the grand stars off the Real Housewives of Potomac sadly has a huge problem. However I will say this this money problem did not start yesterday.
I was like oh my god Kara's gonna have some thoughts. Yeah it was like a Kenburn style documentary treatment of Karen and Ray Hugers financial woes. It really was and then we had the Flash of the Reunion. It was so serious and so amazing and then I also love the quotes of like does she even live here?
What's going on? Seep your tone everybody. Yes! The streets have a tone of a sign.
I care no longer lives in Potomac. You're not gonna be the Green Island of Potomac anymore darling. Is this a front for something? And then you just see Karen quietly watering his plans.
Yeah so yeah we find out. According to the Washington Post software executive Ray Huger owes nearly $1.5 million in back due federal taxes. Ray Huger his business. Not Karen Huger because they file separately as we have learned.
Yeah. Which my friends dad always said to do. Oh interest is dot tip because like you never know. You never know.
I think the crux of this episode and the question is did Karen know and honestly I think based on how she's interact with the other women I get why they think she didn't know. But that interview chair when she's like I found out two hours before we watch she goes. She's just so sincere. The way I received the information about raising business taxes was through a third party.
They call me with the news. Two hours before it hit because I did not know about the situation that was facing my husband. I just I really think she didn't know and then it reminded me of Jo and Theresa because Jo and Theresa talked about in her book on the show how anger she is because she she had no idea what was going on. She was signing things she didn't know.
I also that moment like they're still together. I'm sure their marriage is great but when they're at the breakfast table or something and Ray is like oh I mentioned it to you like a couple months ago. Like you're fine but I definitely mentioned it. I did mention it to you that happened several years ago after I purchased the other company.
I did mention it. I didn't know that some of the tax matters were accumulating like they did. I was like right I also wanted to know I had two things. Everyone had also reminded me on that episode of Rojas is Orange County throwing it way back with Lynn when she found out that their house is in foreclosure.
That and her husband never told her. Brutal. What is up with all these husbands not telling their wives about their financial like situations. These women on all our shows are like so strong in so ways.
They're often business owners like they're doing their own stuff but then in every city always feels like there's that one who just has like a soft spot for her man in a way that that lines I mean she and when she cleaned out her bank account like shared finances are always a nexus of trouble on Bravo. Yeah my other note was you said that they're clearly still together and they have a good marriage. We see in the supertease though. Oh the way saying the divorce thing.
I know something like maybe is this cracking them? Oh you mentioned that may ask you for divorce. Yes. I mean I know.
I mean we saw Ashley and Michael businesses quote unquote crack under pressure. Right. But yeah I mean that's obviously like the biggest thing happening this episode. I want to quickly go to Ashley and Michael before we get to the end with Robin.
Okay and Karen and one of my favorite Potomac arguments ever. Ashley not living with her husband. This episode she decides to move back in. I was torn about that.
As was I think her friend when she's like packing like I think that friend she knew what was what. Because it's like her reasons for going back are just like oh well the lease was ending and like it didn't make sense. It feels like a weird in between step. Well this lease was ending in August.
That was the critical period to decide if I was going to move into my own apartment and be completely done with the marriage or whether I was going we were gonna get back together reconcile. Oh my god I'm so scared. But it did remind me of course of Sex and the City because she was like I can't just go to this apartment when I'm like need a break or like whatever and that's what Carrie always had her apartment for. I mean if we get into an argument I can't just get in my car and drive here.
Interesting. I've never seen right you don't know my god I forget. You get this reference it makes so much sense. I'm sure it does.
I'm sure it does. Really expensive pillows and Samantha to show up with a dog. Okay. Again you don't get it.
I'm in my spirit. Okay okay. Yeah always having a place to go back to after a fight. Right.
It's not so nice but also like you're not dealing with it then. I think. I don't know. But it seems like she's got some real deep seated issues with her and Michael and her mom.
Yes and how do you choose? And it seems like that's gonna keep on going this season if the super tease was any indication. I can't continually be in the situation. So who are you gonna choose?
Your mother or Michael? What did you think of the roses? I want to give you your favorite flowers. Rose is a turkey sandwich.
Good for ain't I? No it's that's right. This is you coming home and there's a car. I flowers are just such a cliche to me that it always seems like the person's done something wrong which like maybe he has but it's just like there's got to be a more sincere way to apologize or a more personal one like everybody gets flowers.
But he did say this is your favorite flower and she seems so touched by it that it like I was like well maybe I don't know and then she's out being so like it really broke my heart you guys were so in love. I was like super good with you. I was like super good with you. I was like saying it.
You guys seem so in love. I have a real problem with my friends too where like once someone has proven themselves like once a relationship has like one wrong and maybe this is why I'm single has like one wrong turn I like have very I have a very hard time forgiving my friends partners when they already have so like since I count Ashley's a friend yes having seen them at the end of last season I'm like so riled up but meanwhile they've had you know six months of conversations but for me it still feels fresh right I feel the same and I told my friend that like I don't think you should get back together with her now husband. Oh see that's yeah for all of my right my dad always told me never talk badly about someone that just broke up with like their person because like he's like every time I've done that you're then the old who doesn't like their girlfriend anymore yeah other boyfriend I was like well great advice that anyway so that's happening it's crazy on the flip side Robin and one back together I love them I know I do too. I love them so much and their kids are cute they're so cute.
I actually wrote I was looking over my notes before coming in here and I just have like Robin one's kids are super cute I love them. Just those kids want to say embrace I love them. Just those kids are super cute too and they were trying on the different he was attacking the Sturm's term. Monique's daughter super cute I love her.
Oh my god she is a cutie petootie oh my god yeah okay but Robin and one yeah Robin and one back together they're even having sex now but like more frequently they sleep in this is all happening last year. I don't believe that they weren't having sex last year. Right right um but she doesn't know that they would have sex and time last year but it seems far less open yeah yes and we are far less of a secret yes but yeah they're on track and I'm happy I mean I will say I'm still have a little not anger but like when we're on taking that producer last year being like that was rough. I'm too old for this.
I'm tired of it. I didn't have. I want some more. That was a hot mic moment we haven't had a hot mic moment in a while we had like four or five in a really tight.
Yes there was a constant because I was just hands it was like that one oh my god a lot of moments okay yeah maybe we'll get some more ones this season hopefully yeah one talking that producer last year was rough yeah something else I thought was fascinating so we're going deep because this is the premiere and we haven't seen this people in a while Chris isn't even talking to his mom because she called Monique a half her last season yeah that was shocking to me because clearly they were really close yeah I don't know I don't know how I feel like we're about to see it with Ashley Michael this sort of like mom versus romantic partner thing always like there are no good winners like I thought it was so like I had someone's respect for Monique when she said like I as a mom like want them to be together because I could not imagine that being my relationship with my kid and I was like that's so great that you have that point of view because I'd be like you see what does it happen that was crazy and I love that she had no idea that I haven't to like watch the episode and Monique moved again so now she's in Potomac proper we saw like kind of a bit last year but she's in she's there I'm really good learning a lot about Maryland geography which like Hanover where is that right falls we don't know but this is I'm from Central New Jersey shout out and like I'm from Princeton and it's snobby but when I meet someone and they say they're from Princeton I say where where exactly because if you're from Montgomery you're lying but like also if I'm abroad or something say that I'm from New York like that I grew up in New York and I didn't say an hour away but are you from Santa Fe Santa Fe or no not San Jose are you from San Jose proper yeah I mean like San Jose has a bunch of like little cities in it okay and like being from San Jose San Jose is worse than being from the little cities okay like I was from South San Jose not super nice part of town okay not the worst part of town East San Jose is like even worse but like I was not like the nice part like I was definitely had the like all my friends lived in like Cupertino or they lived in Saratoga or Los Gatos and it's like rich richy places and the big difference between a lot of these little towns at least in New Jersey is property tax so like if you're from one town even if it like shares a border sometimes it'll share a school with another town but like people in the know know that one has way higher property taxes and if you even if you have the same house you're way richer if you live in one town than the other maybe that was the great falls I think that that that may be the difference but she's renting right so I don't know I don't know what's going on obviously no one else does either because it's all up in the air but Jazelle is saying this is proof that that's why they moved and that she knew right which based on the final conversation between Karen and Robin this episode Karen will dispute well let's get into that I think I have a potentially controversial point of view okay I get why Karen gets so upset like you Robin was the one that you called out of the whole group to like confide in and talk to you show up with Robin and you find and then Robin's kind of like I do want to express to you I really appreciate it you calling me but when you called me I was there I was listening to you I felt your vulnerability but there was something in the back of my mind to say am I getting the full truth I don't believe you did not know some of the other ladies agree that you knew this all along whoa whoa whoa whoa you went and talked to the ladies who didn't talk to why would you do that you shared my conversation that I have you and I heard you know Robin spent hours with me on the phone and then the first thing she does is take the private information that I've discussed with her and ran back to the girls I feel betrayed I get my parents upset do I think Karen's defense makes sense no but I get the emotion is what I'm saying yes I get the emotion to especially because she has a line that was kind of thoroughly she's like of all the people I'm called Robin was the one who picked up out of who I call Robin pick up the phone we just brutal like that just makes my heart sink to my stomach and my knees go weak like it's just so upsetting but you it does put Robin in a kind of uncomfortable situation right because she's like why me why me and also like if she's closer with other people in the group of course she is gonna share what she learned and to her point if it's in a blog that everybody sees a little blog called the Washington Post blog what is a blog blog you read blogs and you all read it on the same blog it is okay you guys read blogs and then straight from that to like like it's so rocksy heart you know like it doesn't matter what you're in the paper for you're in the paper is publicity yeah and that show biz kid yeah I get to associate Karen saying that she walked off I like your note I think it's a really interesting note about I lost my appetite yes okay so we just saw in Atlanta three weeks ago that Kim and candy are having this big love and then the waiter comes and everything is diffused because I get to order their food yeah but with Robin and Karen they keep kind of getting interrupted as food is coming and Karen at one point is like I've had like I'm just gonna leave which is like why doesn't everybody do that right like I can't eat she says I've lost my appetite yeah I did but you lost my appetite and I'm done I gotta take it back to the car yeah I think that if I was that I wouldn't want to eat either no let alone eat with the person that I've just been yelling at right oh like yeah I'm surprised there's not more food left on the table in housewives that's true I I there were just so many amazing things there was that there was you live in Hanover and you are by yourself by the way in Hanover what is he saying over this all I'm saying we're using what was great for all the day and I don't care about you but you and Hanover by yourself way by yourself yes where's Hanover I have no I don't know do you want should I google it should I google the distance from Hanover to Potomac they're both in Maryland it's a it's one hour in a car that's far yeah it's not super close they're on our way and traffic but there's a lot of traffic right now credit Google Maps should we go should we go try but you know what sometimes it takes me an hour to get to somebody in Queens I was gonna say it's so like I don't think it's that crazy right I would take me out of home from work yeah oh my god totally so TBD whether there's a Hanover the insult will stick but I kind of like just like watch that scene because it's only amazing things get said read my **** I don't owe anybody anything Karen is debt free and loaded **** back the point is you got to make millions to owe million trust and believe trust and believe that I do I can live anywhere and be fabulously Karen here can rob and dick to live anywhere and be fabulously Robert Dick's like I can live fabulously as my as Grace Rosen is gonna be a mantra for a while it doesn't like circumstances don't matter I am still my fabulous self like no matter where I am she also says I have a if you go to Facebook I put up an exclusive video on Potomac Karen was asked like what's better Potomac or for a false and she was like I'll just say the like level in great falls is much higher or something to the fact and you're like interesting I think I've been to great Falls, Maryland what was it like I think I went to the falls I went on like a little nature walk and it was icy but then the falls were beautiful they were they great they were great the next on though yes Karen throws a lunch it appears I I refer to it on the site as a press conference of no press that's great yes I just when she sort of throws her hands on the table and stands up I was like Teresa oh my god I was such a Teresa G moment so many similarities this season I wonder if they talk oh my god I wish they could commiserate that would be a great like Ted a Ted yes Karen and Teresa but yeah I mean that's a bold move throwing a lunch to explain yourself right but when you hear all these people are talking behind your back I don't know I'm like so like yeah Karen but like what else is she to do and she's dramatic she's the grand-domb of course Karen's gonna be throwing a press conference with no press like it's so over the top I did want to shout out though I literally like gas-watching when she was in that like platinum blonde wig at the end in interview I was like yeah some looks Robin who is my favorite looks housewives from last season is doing a center part thing with like a red boostier in interview that I'm all about yes everyone looks great yeah this is a real I mean they it's a beautiful cast the topic was a weird we talk a lot about the sort of the season one to glow up and I'm sure they had it I feel like this house has always looked good well like Giselle is one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen up close like she is so beautiful but Karen is really beautiful in person as well that was like season one yeah they're just like very genuinely beautiful people did we go to the season one reunion together I think we did back when I was doing staff oh my god yes throw back throw back that was my first reunion to maybe I had been to maybe southern charm before then because it was before we were going to reunions as digital and I had to like fight for it I was like I promise we're gonna get good stuff yes we have to be there that's why Megan's up every hill right now all right welcome again all right so that's Potomac and we're gonna be the new house back next week which I'm really excited about Candace yes I like her from this next on I like her facial expression anyone with a pageant background yeah amazing I'm only a good friend yeah I feel like she's like a good not that she's not friends with everyone but she clashed so hard with Giselle last season and like in class which is now you're gonna clash with Robin and Ashley yeah you need backup yeah but speaking of new faces a femme Marcel was here yes another insanely gorgeous woman yeah so I wasn't here during this interview but you and Megan talked to her yes she was super pregnant super beautiful and again super shady did she talk about America's next up model she talked about America's next up model she talked about I don't want to spoil it but the moment that she like realize she made it involves Oprah and she also was looking at her well and she was a little bit shady about Miss Lala Ken hey girls I cannot wait for them to come back I know oh my god you watch all of them every single I know every single one even them and I swear that shorts was in my hotel yesterday yeah he is in you and I'm like hi anything I know you and then a party with Jacks I Coachella whoa that's when he was so cool with Katie though oh so he's not cool with Katie right now well I don't know yeah you might know I like Lala's edition though yeah she's great yeah me too I think she's too pocket everything like no he's literally took over my body yeah right right I'm like a little black girl from South LA and you think out of all the people in the world two pucks took over your body isn't she from like Utah right okay hollary well this is quite messy yeah well it was quite messy it was quite messy did you have any idea how messy it was gonna get this season um you know what I did expect there to be like shade thrown I didn't know exactly what direction it would be coming from and what the motive would be however using like an international superstar to give yourself like two minutes of play was not an expectation of mine it was so I was talking to Missy last night after I did watch what happens live and she was like what the heck like you do not think this was I have no idea of all the people I've been liking to over the last 14 15 years of my career like really well I'm sure it's like a compliment for her like she's like I'll take it yeah but she's like she's well her exact words where you handle that very well I don't know if I could have been so gracious about it I just I just felt it's so weird you know she doesn't really have an opportunity to defend herself yeah I'm nor do I think that she really cares to defend herself against her I just thought that it was really kind of low and scummy of Shimi and to like think that it was appropriate to bring up something like that and not that she was asking me about my sexuality I don't think that was the issue I think that was kind of a forward for someone who doesn't even know if like Marcel is my legal name or not right but to then add someone else's name into it that was literally just like a rumor it was like no found it like facts or you know about this so the fact that you just like assume that this is true and you're like putting it out there into the world and like you are a mid 30 year old woman who wants to be a singer like really and that's how you play her okay Missy lives in Atlanta does you know that like she lives in the city dear did Missy know that she was gonna she's gonna become a part of like the R.H.O.A drama this season was she ready for it was just like Sunday night all of a sudden she's like trending on mr. No idea that she was gonna become part of like you know reality television I had no idea I could even for one her I think you can see from my face I was like I can't get my what all the actual tea it was what right right it was so bizarre I was so bizarre and the more bizarre part about it is the fact that she didn't think it was bizarre like it was just so normal for her so like so this is how you move and shake got it doing all that school not my kind of girl it's fine you're cute but we're just gonna leave that there because that's really weird well you handled that really well thank you but in this trip we also see me not handle a rumor or questioning so well like when you brought up Tyrone whoa Candy brought up Tyrone now to me the whole Tyrone situation was just a little bit different only because there was actually history there we're talking about like a rumor from a blog versus like an actual situation that kind of fill you out with a friend right so when she rakes pointed to me because I'm not privy to this like I've known you for years but I don't know like everybody that she's had like a fallout with or like a left-est with or any of that right so that's not my necessary my business so when she rakes pointed out to me I was like oh okay now I get it so what I took away from all that is Lee Tyrone's name and Eric about his song like just leave it right I don't care about what's going on with Tyrone I don't want to know about what's going on with Tyrone whatever has happened will happen that's happened it doesn't matter to me I don't care about how long he's locked up that's a raise man got it noted I'm actually a fan of Greg and Nina's relationship I love them dearly so if Nina doesn't want to talk about it then next subject like she said something that's more relevant and we're current right got it well she said on Twitter last night a fan said you got really defensive about Tyrone she's like you know what I said how about that yeah let's be clear she's a one-woman show which is absolutely hysterical if you've never seen her you should she's hilarious and what is so amazing about her is that she can poke fun at herself it's like not that deep she doesn't take life that's serious she'll take herself that serious so people are making like a super big deal about you know Tyrone and she's like girl it's not that deep okay fine I gave him a head like whatever and the thing is that so funny is that I didn't realize that Tyrone was a real person I am so out of the loop of everyone's drama so when they would say like Shrei's calling Tyrone I thought it was cold work like for something else yeah okay cool so then when they're like she just talked to Tyrone I was like there's a real Tyrone I was I'm oblivious to it all I had no idea well you are gorgeous and pregnant thank you the reunion is coming up are you at all worried the stress is gonna induce labor you know what let's be clear I have been a part of the Shades watt known as reality television since 2004 this is not new to me this group of women are new to me but the whole dynamic isn't new and so as much as I attempt to incorporate love and light and namaste in my daily movement I can totally help my own so you know I hope that it's cute but if there's you know a little bit more spice than sugar then we're ready for that to all right I'm excited for giving me some tips to oh what was her advice or does that vice wise if it gets to he did just walk away just like if it gets too much you're super pregnant just get up and just go away oh yeah but like I said I'm pretty good at home I know all right yeah I can't wait how would you say this group compares to your time on the infamous Tom model this group hell is in comparison like it's completely completely different than Tom model you have like all of these like bright eyes and bushy tail drop deck or just women that are like trying to become a model and learning all that is necessary to become you know this amazing super model and on housewives you're dealing with like barrels and barrels of drama of dated drama so it's like like really different and then I'm still trying to understand what everyone does for a living was that a ring I'm just saying like when it came to models like all knew what we were trying to do for a living right right I still like don't get like I know what some of them do for a living but what everyone does I am like who are you most confused about well I tell you I do know what they do for a okay I know when you need us for a living right just a sad card she like has insurance because of Zac Atra got it so do I I'm very clear of what candy does for a living right I've co-hosted I've guest hosted in replacement of Portia for this nation so I'm clear about what she does for a living and I actually share a business partner with Cynthia so I'm clear about what she does for a living and the buck stops there we'll let you guys fill in the blanks on that there's an apple outlier isn't that well I don't really understand that I know that King of Things that I'm a TV model which is hilarious because I don't even know what the hell that is I don't know but Donna Karen is not a TV designer so how's that a TV model I don't know but I've made my money since I was 18 and film television and modeling like that's the only job I've ever done and no man has ever paid my bills so we haven't really seen you and Kenya interacts that much yet no there was a small moment of interaction where Nini brought up something that her and I discussed about Cynthia about this guy will right and so Nini brought it up and then decided to like kind of tell the group I guess there had been trepidation in the group about this guy I do nothing about that it was just you know I'm new to it so when Nini brought it up to the girls saying like you know how do we talk to Cynthia about this Kenya's like I'm gonna go tell Cynthia I don't like talking behind her back and I was like okay so who was doing that like they're nine people here like so how do you talk behind someone's back when it's like right here in front of everyone and you're her like best friend like we're like you've been pulled into the conversation so that was kind of like the beginning of it like feeling a little messy and then I haven't I haven't gotten to know her but she enjoys social media and she enjoys like talking about me not so positively on social media which isn't really becoming up a lady of her age but I'm so excited to read it right I'm so excited to watch the reunion you spoke a little about having a set card you run your wrestling oh my god I was on young and I was just for three years that was some of the funnest times of my life oh my god I'm a huge win our family watches that they call it the play like it's like it's like really deep with my family what was that like you know my name was Tyra on young and I'm a man with a hammer and it was everything so I played a long-lost aunt of Brighton and I ended up coming in like kind of stealing nil known as Chris Austin John and like starting a relationship with him right and it was a really good time it was a really good time I was after Victoria while I left the show and so there was like kind of a void for that like super diva sass and I got to know some of the most iconic soap stars ever right in life mustache right you know I mean like you know the chancellor and I got to work with them every single day and for me it taught me just kind of like be quick on my toes how to memorize like there's like someone's job to really like make sure if you like mess up your lines more than twice like there's like you're in trouble oh my god what kind of trouble like don't do it again kind of trouble like it kind of like kept you on your toes and it kept you like making sure you exercise your brain to remember what was going on and I mean lines change story changes all the time and just kind of like really stay on top of it and yeah I enjoy my time there I remember when I first started Vivica Fox calls me and she's like look girl this is your chance to go back to college for acting take it for what it's worth use a dialogue coach like do all that you can because you there's no better trading ground than this and Shamar had just left and so I was like okay I can do this I can do this and I was terrified like 33 principles and you got this little girl in here I'm like really what am I doing but it was a really good time amazing did you I overlap with Eileen no yeah I did try to remember because it's been different Ashley's and yes I've allowed with Eileen she was there it was it was it was there was a big transition happening like with a lot of like you said some of the stars kind of change over but a lot of the long plate stars like Eileen's character were definitely there how exciting so did she give you any advice coming into Atlanta at all no I just kind of like no I haven't talked to her about the show or anything like that like I just not hurt myself right yeah yeah I wanted to ask you as a model what you think of this new wave of it girls who happen to be daughters of reality stars I think it's everything I think it's absolutely everything to like it's like Tyra was my mama right yeah she is like my you know yes mama in the business but like to grow up with someone like that has to be absolutely amazing like GG and Bella and then now watching the girls from Beverly Hills and seeing like all of their daughters Camille and was at the arena Lisa Renee Lisa's like all in it too like you know but I think it's really cool you know when I decided that I wanted to become a model I was in college and I remember calling my mom I was like yeah so when after school does the start I was like no mama's kind of like one or the other and she's like yeah no so which like no you can't do that you know and so to have like a supportive mom my mom loves it now like she's all about it now right but to have a supportive mom at 16 years old that like gets it knows the business knows people like knows designers like what does it know designers right you know I'm saying she's like Saint John's base having to say oh like she knows nothing about Oscar de la Ren's a runway show at all or like you know the Dolce show in Milan like oh no that's not that and so to have a mom it's like a full-on mama that appreciates it that understands the prestige of it all I mean that has to be amazing what was like the moment that you were like wow I'm on like a level like I've made it well okay so I remember when Tyler Perry was opening up a studio in Atlanta like it's like this huge epic studio right and how like this four day celebration thing or three day celebration thing when like everyone was there from like Sicily Tyson to Mary J to like Oprah and Gail and seven just a few you know a couple right so I remember sitting on a table at his house with Oprah and I was like I'm talking to myself right now I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like so I'm like so I like mustard at the courage and I was like hi Oprah I'm Eva Marcell and she's like I know who you are I was like I'm like I'm like I absolutely died I found out that like Gail was a fan of mine I was like shut the front door you guys are like the best best ever in life like oh my god this can be a trio like we can totally do this all together and so when I realized that overwind free just actually like not even knows my whole journey just kind of like knows a three-letter name that's Eva it was like life changing for me that's a really good one yeah like that's what that's amazing when I introduced myself to her and she knew who I was I was like everything I was struck watching this episode of Barcelona when you guys are trying to teach Shirei like how to take sexy photos yeah that there is a big difference between a beautiful woman and a beautiful woman who's a model yes my man was saying that my fiance was watching the show and he's like you know what I like about this and he's not like a really kind of reality but he watches everything I do he's like what I like about this is that it kind of shows the world and modeling isn't really that easy modeling is not about being a pretty face there are a lot of models that like aesthetically walking down the street you wouldn't consider them like the most beautiful woman right but when it comes the camera comes on and you put some garments on them you can put a sheet on them they were like slay but then you have some super beautiful women that you put behind the camera you're like yeah not so much like don't do that to your face like where's your other thing you know what I mean and so modeling is not something and I think that Cynthia Bailey can totally attest to it modeling is not something that just you know comes to like pre-people if that's the case I mean you know everyone's personality might not be like you know the peaches you know what it's in it but one thing that's anonymous and they're all beautiful right but they all are not models like in the least bed so you know watching the show and kind of being a part of like helping Shirei was really cool to show them that it's not just about being pretty because you can't even help the way you look like you're momming your daddy's wall right like honestly you know is where it's at it's just kind of there but the skill behind modeling and the limbs and angles and kind of like learning that and learning your relationship to the camera and knowing that that kind of takes a skill that must be practiced and home like it's kind of cool for last question what can we expect from this season give us some sneak peeks at what's to come what what's to come um a rose of concrete card you know what I think you can sit back unexpected bonds obviously more shade there's some love there there's some light there and there's some new relationships and I'm really you know happy that it's like the first day of school you're not gonna bond with everyone right it's just what it is what I came into this kind of knowing of some of the girls and having a relationship with Nini and I walk away from it with like having a relationship with a lot of the girls and for that I can't all joy well thank you so much for being here yes she was so cool she we also read a little bit worried about like mentioning the misea Elliot stuff because it was so sensitive on the show but she just like launched right into it we're like oh at first I was like oh she's okay I'm like oh she's okay I'm a really it so thank you for being so candid and like amazing stories and super first of all and she was just really cool that's awesome I'm so mad I missed it yeah you should be so even though we are all out of the office this week we are very much online what do you think about but I want to know your theories do Karen no I'm on the fence I'm swayed a lot by interviews I guess yeah we're gonna be talking to Karen later this week to so if you have questions please please tweet us tweet us at Bravo TV using the hashtag Bravo Daily Dish you can tweet me directly at Rachy Rob or reach out to me on Instagram at suspiciously small you can reach me everywhere at gross underscore raisin and you can reach Megan everywhere at mexigura everywhere my secret she's in our hearts yes and hopefully when she comes back we're gonna have a little dispatch from the Bevels reunion so don't forget to come back on Thursday to hear a discussion of the season premiere season 10 premiere it's been 10 years you guys of the real housewives of New York City I'm so excited where is the Roni we call it Roni in the office too I know that's like such a insider thing but like if we ever say that you're like what the hell are we talking about we're talking about the real house Roni Roni Bevels Bevels we call Bevels or we call it Bevels pump pump that's obvious VPR we say what is another like weird acronym we use sometimes I like we'll say rowa in my head oh yes and I say that to for R.H. away yeah which is real housewives Atlanta we say RHC to or OC we don't say rock rock rock you'll start saying that please do anyway