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EPISODE · Dec 16, 2021 · 54 MIN

Next.js 12, React vs. Svelte, and the Future of Frameworks with Wes Bos

from Whiskey Web and Whatnot

Between constantly changing frameworks, updates, and languages, web dev life is anything but stagnant. Shiny object syndrome is a real thing, and it's easy to feel like there's too much to keep up with. Wes Bos has his own point of view on the shifting landscape. Wes has spent years as a developer and has created a catalog of courses to help other developers improve their skills. Despite having his favorites, Wes argues there's a place for everything in the melting pot that is modern web development.  In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Wes discuss the rise of specialized frameworks, the future of frameworks like TypeScript, and Wes' views on technology outside the workplace.  Key Takeaways [00:27] – Who is Wes Bos? [01:40] – Wes or Robbie or Both?    [05:42] – Whiskey review [18:46] – The benefits of Next.js 12 [21:03] – React vs. Svelte  [26:20] – Wes' thoughts on TypeScript  [30:26] – Commiserating over IE 11 [33:52] – What Wes does in his free time  [39:16] – Wes' vintage road bikes [40:54] - Wes' tech-free BBQ saga [50:59] - Wes' thoughts on tech podcasts Quotes [19:08] - "I don't think that Next.js is the SDK of the web. The whole point of the web is that it's open and it's just the standard language that you can build whatever you want on top of it. But that said, I'm probably the biggest Next.js fanboy out there." ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos] [19:24] - "Next.js is making things really really simple for us. They're sort of taking a lot of the hard parts of React and doing away with them and making this really nice framework for building websites." ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos] [20:19] - "That's really important with these tools that it does the code splitting and all the performance stuff for you. Because the average web developer is not gonna spend any time trying to implement these things themselves. They don't have enough time, they've got deadlines to hit, or they just don't know how. So the tools doing it for you really is the way forward." ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos] Links Wes's Website [http://wesbos.com] Syntax Podcast  [https://syntax.fm] JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com] John Deere [https://www.deere.com/en/index.html] LCBO [https://www.lcbo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/en/lcbo] 1792 Small Batch Bourbon [https://1792bourbon.com/our-bourbon] Glencairn Whiskey Glass  [https://www.totalwine.com/accessories-more/accessories/glassware/spirits-glasses/glencairn-whisky-glasses-4pk/p/111127920?glia=true&s=1106&&pid=cpc:Core+Catalog+-+Shopping%2BUS%2BCALI%2BENG%2BSPART::google::&gclid=Cj0KCQiAnaeNBhCUARIsABEee8UJejxE6NcLgMFoYR0O21iYJLJr4tqk08DRJIL7QUV0vWLxmiVGTnkaAtNcEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds] Property Brothers [https://www.hgtv.com/shows/property-brothers] Income Property [https://www.hgtv.com/shows/income-property] Island of Bryan [https://www.hgtv.ca/shows/island-of-bryan/] Starlink [https://www.starlink.com] Spectrum [https://www.spectrum.net] Acquia  [https://www.acquia.com] Next.js [https://nextjs.org] Syntax 405: Hasty Treat - Next.js 12 [https://syntax.fm/show/405/hasty-treat-next-js-12] React [https://reactjs.org] Rich Harris [https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris] Vercel [https://vercel.com] Svelte [https://svelte.dev]  SvelteKit [https://kit.svelte.dev]

Between constantly changing frameworks, updates, and languages, web dev life is anything but stagnant. Shiny object syndrome is a real thing, and it's easy to feel like there's too much to keep up with. Wes Bos has his own point of view on the shifting landscape. Wes has spent years as a developer and has created a catalog of courses to help other developers improve their skills. Despite having his favorites, Wes argues there's a place for everything in the melting pot that is modern web development.  In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Wes discuss the rise of specialized frameworks, the future of frameworks like TypeScript, and Wes' views on technology outside the workplace.  Key Takeaways [00:27] – Who is Wes Bos? [01:40] – Wes or Robbie or Both?    [05:42] – Whiskey review [18:46] – The benefits of Next.js 12 [21:03] – React vs. Svelte  [26:20] – Wes' thoughts on TypeScript  [30:26] – Commiserating over IE 11 [33:52] – What Wes does in his free time  [39:16] – Wes' vintage road bikes [40:54] - Wes' tech-free BBQ saga [50:59] - Wes' thoughts on tech podcasts Quotes [19:08] - "I don't think that Next.js is the SDK of the web. The whole point of the web is that it's open and it's just the standard language that you can build whatever you want on top of it. But that said, I'm probably the biggest Next.js fanboy out there." ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos] [19:24] - "Next.js is making things really really simple for us. They're sort of taking a lot of the hard parts of React and doing away with them and making this really nice framework for building websites." ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos] [20:19] - "That's really important with these tools that it does the code splitting and all the performance stuff for you. Because the average web developer is not gonna spend any time trying to implement these things themselves. They don't have enough time, they've got deadlines to hit, or they just don't know how. So the tools doing it for you really is the way forward." ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos] Links Wes's Website [http://wesbos.com] Syntax Podcast  [https://syntax.fm] JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com] John Deere [https://www.deere.com/en/index.html] LCBO [https://www.lcbo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/en/lcbo] 1792 Small Batch Bourbon [https://1792bourbon.com/our-bourbon] Glencairn Whiskey Glass  [https://www.totalwine.com/accessories-more/accessories/glassware/spirits-glasses/glencairn-whisky-glasses-4pk/p/111127920?glia=true&s=1106&&pid=cpc:Core+Catalog+-+Shopping%2BUS%2BCALI%2BENG%2BSPART::google::&gclid=Cj0KCQiAnaeNBhCUARIsABEee8UJejxE6NcLgMFoYR0O21iYJLJr4tqk08DRJIL7QUV0vWLxmiVGTnkaAtNcEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds] Property Brothers [https://www.hgtv.com/shows/property-brothers] Income Property [https://www.hgtv.com/shows/income-property] Island of Bryan [https://www.hgtv.ca/shows/island-of-bryan/] Starlink [https://www.starlink.com] Spectrum [https://www.spectrum.net] Acquia  [https://www.acquia.com] Next.js [https://nextjs.org] Syntax 405: Hasty Treat - Next.js 12 [https://syntax.fm/show/405/hasty-treat-next-js-12] React [https://reactjs.org] Rich Harris [https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris] Vercel [https://vercel.com] Svelte [https://svelte.dev]  SvelteKit [https://kit.svelte.dev]

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