NFL Final Four (Chiefs, Ravens, Lions, Niners) [feat. Nick and Q]

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They didn't gotta free it Don't try to cook it up. It's Josh Allen the new Philip Rivers And I think I need to boot that TV from this shot, but yes, it's Josh Allen the new Phil Rivers Whatever that means No, no what that means is Kenny win the big game because Philip Rivers obviously played in the era of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady He could just never get over that hump. He could be one, but not both um Is he that new guy? The record may say that he might be um because let's be honest the big I think I think when it comes to quarterbacks There's a big four and all four of them on the AFC Lamar burrow Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen So he may be stuck in an era where it's gonna be difficult to get over that hump because he's playing against three other perennial MVP candidates I think it may be tough.

Um, you know, I think this is the most complete team that he's played on they finally addressed the run game with James He's a rookie game. No second year. Um, but he finally came on this year better than they they've single Terry You know saying he moved on I want to say he played for the Texas now, but um, yeah Cooker single-terring both of them. Yeah, it was both nice, but cook is a better player at this point for this team Um, but let's be honest, man.

I've been calling it all year. You know, I thought that they were gonna implode Um, you know, they were able to survive the Josh Allen turnovers, but at this point, you know, how much better can that team be? You know, is it is it a coordinator thing is a scheme thing because let's be honest like Josh Allen is elite He is one of the top five quarterbacks in elite elite. We're top five.

You're top five year elite. He's absolutely He has arguably the strongest arm in the league arguably This team will be so he got to the AFC playoffs damn near every year. That's what it done for him This thing will be six and eleven without Josh Oh 100% and then the reason that I don't think that he's rivers is because rivers was the benefit of being on a team with all world players Like if you can remember all the teams they got at least the AFC champions All the famous wide out though. Oh You have about to say you over here hyperlulos about to cut you off until you said that goofy shit.

Yeah, you know, how the famous I mean, yeah, all the famous on the Ross Yeah, he's meant and often and I'm saying the river's wasn't the best man on that team where I would say that he is different Josh Allen that is Josh Allen is carrying this team. He may not be able to be like we got it Patrick Holmes Patrick My home is Michael Jordan. I don't take a lot to beat him It's not Josh Allen when Josh Allen walking there with stack team though He may have a better chance But he ain't got the stack team now if they depending on Josh Allen to put the team on their back Hey, take us to Kansas City or even win it Buffalo against Patrick my homes That's probably never gonna have and let's be honest right like this game outside of that fumble What other mistake did you really make like he dropped some bomb outside of the phone? I I'm fired their offensive We were talking about the bills potentially not making the playoffs and that's because they depend on Josh Allen too much And let me ask you a question who was the favorites going into that game Vegas Vegas on Who was at home the bill was soon the second See I was on the second see will be the favorite.

Okay, so you're telling me all that but you're saying that he wasn't on the stack team I it's not correlate with me like how are you the number two seed and a favorite by Vegas eyes and Vegas is more accurate than not and you're telling me now that You're making excuses as far as well like he came up short We're talking about all we're talking about you talking about the bill success. I'm talking about Josh Allen's talent We're talking about is he better than Philip Rivers. Yes, he's a lot better now. You're adding in old his team was favorite Or they were the second see that's because of Josh I'm the reason why I bring up the whole Philippines not based off of exact quarterback comparison I'm just talking about career wise as far as no matter what you put around or I'm just talking about this one I just wanted to talk about this one is career And I'm saying projecting for like for something future because the AFC just got harder We just found out that C.

They shroud is a franchise QB You know I'm saying we were finding out more about the AFC and it's more deeper than we thought and that's still excluding if Harbaugh So you know the Chargers we see what he could do with Justin Herbert Maybe Doug Peterson can figure out whichever Lawrence going into next season like there's QB's that are coming up They're or if not already there that has to go through But I'm a Rogers let's be honest like he's on his way off of the like you know He's like he's on the decline I do not get I'm just knocking up. Oh, yeah, we can't hear Nick Hold on one second Nick you you talk sounds like you were agreeing with I do in the sense that once again You look at Phillip Rivers career. He's talented too. Now Josh Allen may have more talent than Phil Yeah, but when it comes I mean he does he's a talented quarterback But when it comes to winning games wins and losses what has he done?

If he was didn't do and it's always something I can't say over No, no, no, I'm making me come on your apologize with Josh Allen Like I'm trying to pile on like his career is over He's losing to the best player that we've possibly ever seen played a position consistently. You can't fault them So you can't mention him in the same residence way well It's the same argument that you get against Patrick you and carball on Charles Barkley Clad Rexley and those guys will not win in the championship Yeah, Jordan was playing right and they're talented But you can't mention them in the same breakfast Jordan and that's what you can't mention Patrick you can't mention anybody in the same breakfast That's my thing. That's my thing. That's my thing But that's what that's what the media tries to do they try to paint this picture like it's his fault I mean like his I mean like he's the same level is the team's fault He doesn't have it's always some type of excuse they make for him So from me there is no for me from me when you're looking at from a talent perspective Can you can you make an argument there on the same level?

Yes? But when you come to the result the result of the game the result of your career the result of your record like you said It's Pat Mahomes and everybody else this nigga has been in six straight years. He's been in the league seven years He started for six years in the league all six times He's played no less than a Champions that's that's that's and then this is his first role play. Okay.

That is ridiculous We're never going to see what we're witnessing right now and his only he's got three losses in the playoffs What was in the Super Bowl? Mm-hmm any other two win overtime? Like it like he a different dude We can't judge Josh Allen on beating Patrick Mahomes. Like that's not fair.

That makes no fucking sense I have one quick question. Are we gonna also say that when last year he lost to the Bengals? Thank you I mean, I was gonna say I was gonna say that too the Bengals when it's not all two years ago one more thing And I know that this is if but this is sports, you know If Mike Tomlin has any type of functional QB does he even make out of the game last week? You know, I mean like these are very like questionable like scenarios I'm not even saying that he's not elite QB because I do think he is elite But there's elite and then there's like certified Hall of Fame and that's first ballot in casual Mahomes So it's in a river situation.

He could be because time for a little bit of a fan Who? But I think that that only that was only like a certainty towards the latter half of his career time Brady by time he was in his fifth fourth season We were like oh, he's gonna Hall of Fame The river's had to really climb that mountain Not necessarily No, but the river was a good day. Why? Here's the thing that I took away from this wasn't about fellow rivers or anything like that I was thinking about Hmm shit, you may be old enough to remember.

I know Kyle is When the bills went to all those super bowl. Yeah, we're right. Yeah, that's all I'm thinking about It's like, yeah, you're just it's almost like this team is cursed. Oh, it is.

It is a degree like that's a winnable game Let's let's you know, I mean at least to tie it Let's forget about let's not even talk about the decision make we get to that but Tyler Bass and this is a field goal That just goes wide right the crazy thing is I think they were talking about him having a history of mrs Who and they were like, oh, you know, we're confident they can get it done. I'm not so much There's a nine in in the game situation. That was the first of a vote that I watched the bills versus a giant So we miss it while right. Yeah, so just overall Because when when Josh Allen was driving on a field I thought that was it I thought I just knew they were in a score especially many through that pass to digs And I did should be a damn shame.

He shouldn't say shit to anybody, you know for a whole season He knows you can't talk about Josh Allen anymore What are you guys thinking when you guys were watching that fourth quarter? And and with the game just seemed to just stall and it seemed like the Chiefs and everything going their way and they just and the Bills just kept catching breaks. What were you guys thinking as they were making that final drive? You go in there for me was about I think we kind of underestimate or I think we're kind of glossing over how out of it like the Chiefs were going that game through and through There were so many mistakes that the bills made There was mistakes that the Chiefs made for themselves that kept the bills in the game like all those funnels including Josh Allen's Including McCollarman's at the goal line They've got a carman just you know just falls on the ground and covers it like not even do the extra shit The Chiefs are at the one yard line and I for sure know Percheco's want to drive it into the end zone and that's the game over there right there And then with the fumble with Josh Allen if the Chiefs it was it felt like it was hot potato They ain't nobody wanted to catch you know catch the ball if they just you know grab that the game's over It's like and then so then we get down to the point where Josh Allen doesn't go for the underneath route for digs Which not to say that was gonna change the game But it would at least got him further ahead to where the kicker wouldn't be making a try to make a field goal at the 40 Plus you know I'm saying so it's just like there were so many points in that game where you're saying like the bills are just giving up Or they are just not really as focused as the Chiefs and my homes only through 23 times Like that's crazy like like like them are Alan almost twice as much as 39 times So it's just like my home's through less than Brock hurt me And it's crazy, you know that's crazy to me So it's just like to me it's like the game wasn't really that close except for the score But it's also just saying like this we talk about the bills not having a stack roster the Chiefs don't have one either We all season I was the first thing I was up on the showers to say like the who the fuck is he throwing to And I'll tell you that all we have is a defensive players that we may or may not know I said of Chris Jones who they're playing well they're playing very damn near a really great this season But the Chiefs aren't over defense.

We were worried going to this plate post season can they keep on? The Chiefs were gonna do this from jump Because y'all betting against y'all betting against a dude who has that LeBron Jordan type of mind where all you need is one We can prep on area. It doesn't matter Before you before you go Q because I know you got answer to question through my thing was the reason why I was worried is because We don't know what the Chiefs look like when Patty can't you know do his thing on his end? And that's what I was gonna do his thing though I was more so because of the receivers.

He had like I think we were all surprised without his scaling caught that ball over his head He was surprised I didn't see it happen all season it wasn't a guarantee look I came into the season saying Pat my home Just pat my home right and whatever it is He would be able to overcome at some point during the middle of the season I was like well, hold on the why the catching ability of everybody is very suspect But at the end of the day Pat my home's to Q's point that he's just built different right like we haven't seen anything like that I quarterback with his level of athletic ability poise clutch all of those check boxes He checks them on you know what I'm saying um but going into this to me the difference in the game Wasn't necessarily the turnovers because to next point it seemed like the game was you know Just isn't in the balance who's gonna make the play that needed to be made to win the game I was gonna fuck up first whoever's gonna fuck up first But to me when it came down to it was the head coaching battle what you saw was is that Andy Reed had who's the head coaching on But he had McDermott's number everything that they wanted to do on defense the Kansas City Cheese had an answer and so to next point he threw less than Brock Purdy I knew going into it You were gonna have to run pajeko That's that you were gonna have to make the plays that you needed to make like the MVS in the first half That was a big play you know saying get their confidence up and just make the plays down the stretch and that's what they did That's no slight to the bills because yeah, could he have done this could he have done that nobody's perfect Josh Allen played good enough to win that game But at the end of the day my holes with that caper like you can't Josh Allen should have won that game. He should win the game My homes like I think we saw you he scored on nine of 11 possessions was over four in last The game was ever taken after everything that my homes did which was great that game was still a win-able game He could have took it from home and he did not so we would have been taking a different story That falls on Josh Allen Josh Allen didn't get it done And I think that's a difference but my home's had a chance to put the game away and you know he did what he did right? No, I'm the defense did the defense did and I miss field goal, but but what I want to ask what I want to ask Q and shelter Was get areas on out there? What's got more out there catch a football?

We saw dropping football absolutely, you know most of the season who made that change Nick? I jumped on Andy Rea all season long about yo This is you letting this shit happens in the playoffs and towards that couple of games He made the changes he needed to make to get them bumps off the field Yeah, and that's the difference if I was sorry she writes out there catching in and my co-hard man Even though he didn't do shit He's a boy, but it made a it made a hell of a difference between what was on the field and what was this time and what was on the field? Doing the right with season I stand by everything I felt when I watched him play. Yeah Somebody posted on Twitter.

I saw Twitter. They were saying like that's a big blow for the bills cuz cotary's canary's stony's ruled out So they would they were saying like well, I felt bad for Nick on that one But hey the big key to this game to me was running game They ran that ball But check out ran that ball like a champion would run it and open up the pass again made it easy even though Patch my home throws are easy anyway It just made it easier to get the ball to those receivers because you had to stop the run So they had to stack the box and everybody was paying attention to the run more so than anything else and those receivers finally made the Plays only when you had I did it was shaky was well You had Harman steel and MBS, but but MBS made the plays harmit try to give it away, but cute She writes came into his own. Yeah, you I saw a graphic that said that the bills won every single statistical category at something score That's crazy to me, bro. Look man.

I can't try to say Patrick Mahomes It don't matter who he got a wide receiver like all the all the conversation speculation people talk about who's he could have Patty hurts the wibers he could have going for the weather It doesn't matter it does not matter if he has a second level neck clock that is the game plan Patrick Mahomes is the system like I've never seen anything like it I'll check build the system around Brady Brady but the system for himself and took it to Tampa Mahomes from day one They realized what they had and all Andy Reed is putting his ex and owes around him And he's just watching the game unfold away like a LeBron or Jordan in those last three chips did where alright As long as I got a minute left and we down at least six or three I'm gonna make this happen. It doesn't matter who I have the problem is that we have shaman government who does not have a real Throw identity for the bills. I don't think the problem really is Josh Island. It's it's Sean I don't see any identity on defense but besides a poyer and Mike a hide which is their strongest suit and then when we're talking about the running game that was a Revelation this year that wasn't like something that they built into the office coming off season That just happened over time and they did it so Andy Reed is not this You know always known for outcoaching other people he just known for installing the great offensive system But the biggest reason why I mean he doesn't Sing six straight NFC championship games where another coach almost be and you read every time and it came down to dwell on wins They came down to the blind dog is in a great defense, but it's not a Less than two losses like coming off a buy right like that's out coaching That's true true, but in terms of like the big moments.

He don't be out coaching other people He makes like a good play here in there and plus we have like Some of them it was the fucking blind side and try to run the Mar Hanlon on fourth and like what the fuck right like In the kids point I coach him because they had boy yards and led in every category. He just didn't get the points But I think he didn't go to see me on he didn't go to see me last year his strong point is a game plan though Like I said coming off about weeks his whole career He's been one of the best game planners since well forever and even speaking to y'all saying that they had more stats It's because Andy Reed had a better game plan They think I'm gonna come in here and go blow for blow with Josh Allen because I got my homes No, I'm gonna run pachico. Yeah, let's go. That's what he had a better game plan Exactly, but it was a better game plan.

Yeah, and the thing about it is crazy part of this game is that there was still a minute What the minute twenty-some Score I had no doubts. I was like okay, you better get the ball back driving down and make me the hero It's something that you said Q and I always talk about regardless of sport is identity of the squad What we saw Andy redo is lean into what the identity of this year's chief seam is not what it was in the past or this That or what it could be in the future. We are defense first. We have my homes So we know we're gonna be good on oh or at least we know that in the clutch moments we can win right?

We could win those possessions But let's run the ball he played to the strength of the identity of this year's chief steam and to your point Q What the fuck are the bills? What's the identity? Yes? You have a great quarterback damn?

He has to do a lot for y'all to make us the win But what's the identity is a defense is in the run? Like what's the identity? It was too much Josh Allen all year and it came back to bite him in the butt even though they had the better I got two things. Can you brought up the fact of Andy Reed a coaching adjustments?

They see great now because they won the game But if that me co-harmon play they would have lost it because no focus would have been like why the hell is me Co-harmon he only took he only played two games this whole season Why I see in the pivotal moments like that doing goofball shit I would came back to buy any read and the other thing is to is like I Did it was because y'all know how to feel about patrimon He's the greatest quarterback I've ever seen point playing period I'll say that first but let's not act like they've been playing anybody who had good defense this whole playoff run Miami Miami Dolphins that were basically they got the ambulance crew were playing as they secondary and then this obviously this bill Steam that y'all mentioned earlier to start to show there they had injuries all over the place They bring in linebackers off the couch like Joe flaco like it's like it's really a patchwork team defensively They about to go play these boys and both be more and they hungry. That's the best defense in the league So all these so I'm talking about the receiver stuff that I brought up earlier this season They might go face a team that can smack him in the mouth and I'd say they say anything to go home about but it's more respectable And all the defense they played this year and I'm curious to think because like for me right now I'm leaning heavily towards Baltimore to win this day Conference this year based on how the base based on this version because like people like you said this version of the Chiefs It's supposed to be corn on cold smash my football good defense run game quarterback don't make mistakes because he is the best quarterback in the league But you're also going against the team who's all DNA ever before Patty got there was defense run the ball quarterback don't make mistakes We don't title you know It's the best quarterback they've ever had in franchise history as far as the mark No 100% but um a couple of things their defense hasn't been this dominant for a very long time You know what I'm saying like having the number one defense That's number one the Ravens the Ravens the Ravens of it's been it's been a gap since they've had an elite defense They obviously was the number one defense this year during the defense But why are they elite because they cause the most pressure? How do they cause the most pressure by blitzing who is the number one quarterback against the blitz all time in the history of the NFL? It's a hat my home Everything starts and ends with Patrick Mahomes number one number two We're talking about the number one blitzing team in the NFL against the number one quarterback against the blitz What do you think is gonna happen?

He's gonna pick them boys apart if that's the game plan if that is the only game plan I'm not saying don't blitz them at all. No, if that's part of your identity you got to stay true to who you are But you can't blitz 60 70% of the time I'm gonna do that the the Ravens are way better defensive. They have a way better defensive scheme than just blitz They're not the Chiefs. That's what Steve Spadnow does it went in doubt?

I blitz the quarterback my thing is with Baltimore again It's not the thing has nothing to do with Patty I came out earlier saying that Patty's the best quarterback ever seen it's his cast that I'm more worried about in that pressure because We're she writes a solo rookie so he ain't never been in this situation before going against them boys NVS we don't trust it was Ricky was Ricky last year Who's in the situation for voxel? That's not gonna say possible. That's all the thing I have the experience of having the best player on the field who also happens to have the most experience in these games and they coach Do you know what the difference is here? You know the difference here is Nick is When people brought up the fact that who is the identity for Buffalo and what do they do every every season like what should their thing be?

What makes the Chiefs so dangerous? It's not even about a year to your thing Patrick Holmes is the first QB where every week you can change the identity you can change tendency Because all right, let's find us all spot in in the zone. We we're gonna pick him up our all game Let's run pachico. All right cool.

Let's do check downs. Let's go deep Let's try to have a mixer of both. He's the first QB where I've seen they can change Tennessee in seven days And you can't do that with any other quarterback Lamar Jackson. They are very much so a run first team And the Chiefs are gonna be prepared for that Andy Reid when I say he doesn't outcoach people I mean as though he's not this mastermind, but he does and that's my opinion people can disagree But in my opinion what what he really does so well is injury plays to the tendencies of other coaches and he does watch so much film He's like yo, you you want to run the ball a lot?

Okay, we're gonna bump the D line up We're gonna bring an extra guy and we're gonna bring a safety blitz or a ghost blitz that is gonna account for your QB So we keep Lamar contained for I got something to say and you're eating none of them defensive cars Let's keep it a full be because I heard even even to the shot McCoy said and you read though. He'd be like oh, yeah I got defense. I'm in the offensive room. That's what you're doing worried about nothing on the defensive ball second of all My thing is this again What are the bills?

Showing you said the bill or can't you start off saying the bills won every statistical category except points Which mean they ran the ball and they did it a very well Josh I had two of them things and then so do not show them What the hell is the best version of that currently in the NFL Lamar Jackson Lamar freaking Jackson and right now Who is Lamar Jackson not being if you look at the regular season schedule Did they not play more playoff teams and beat them handily the Detroit lines that uh B is we're in ski mask over he they spanked them The San Francisco 49 is that Fifo keep talking about is one year away from winning the Super Bowl They spanked them on the road and that same team almost lost the green Both ways because you can't be talking about regular season and talk about playoffs I'm saying I'm saying Lamar is having a phenomenal year and that's why he's MVP Which is a regular season award. We talk in the playoffs. Okay. Okay, so that's as lean up to my point people The whole point is I'm saying is that this team that they're about to face makes little to no mistakes And they are the they are the number one person the number one team doing what the chiefs like I mentioned have tried to adjust the Do and this is the defense that the chiefs is the hardest defense they play in the playoffs They're hard to see if they probably play all years.

So so Baltimore is the shit because they beat a rookie QB I'm gonna use your logic. I'm gonna use your logic. I'm gonna use your logic man. They beat these for out.

That's crazy. No like he beat And it was And then be to a total of all y'all was saying this is the most explosive offense they just wasn't this is no I'm saying I was saying a lot of stuff before people try to cut my argument by taking out the regular season I was saying that to bring up the fact that the Baltimore's the hottest team going into this this mat last round It's this title round and on top of that on top of that Lamar is literally the scariest quarterback to me that any defensive coordinator has to wake up They stay up at night because right now he's throwing the ball the best of his whole career And they actually have weapons to wear it's not just the run that you scared of you still have Zaflowers where I don't know what she's Corner maybe see we'll try to cover him But then you also have Mark and Marc and Marc Andrews is coming back and you have I say likely having a breakout here Like these are these are now a place of weapons that the Chiefs have to not only account for but you also still have number eight 60 yards Phil Jackson Phil Jackson where not losing sleep when they saw Michael and practice every day They don't care In the finals but professor ex and Wolverine ain't scared of magnio because they got Wolverine they don't matter bro like they are they see him every day in Brackens so yeah And I'm saying like the thing is yeah, I don't like my home is is unbeatable I know he is but this is not this is not his best version of his team Lamar has the best version of his team right now You know what but but Pat Mahomes and the Chiefs have the best version to beat the Ravens because you first and foremost You're gonna need defensive. This is not gonna be a shootout because Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lamar had less or right around 150 yards passing right? He did he had a hundred yards rushing He had two touchdowns and either thing what the Texans did was they played a lot of man to man and what happened when he saw that boom He ran so to me a smarter defensive coordinator that doesn't seem what the Texans did is I okay cool I understand that our base is man But guess what?

We're gonna have to play some zone and we're gonna have the zone blitz more than we had all season because we can't turn our backs on this Got because like you just said Nick he gonna run for 60, bro, and we can't allow that well while we hear Um talking about Lamar I guess we might as well talk about the Texas game that was close for the first time the first half I don't know maybe that was rusted or whatever, but um, I mean going to the championship game as Lamar finally signed it silence the critics No, he's gonna get super boy Like you say you know what do you mean in a game you supposed to win he was favored to win the game He was at home. He was a much higher seat in the Houston Texans who nobody expected to be there This is a game. He had to win, but he has to win the next that's crazy This next game to get him on the tier that we all expect him to be on by now This is the game that he has to win that's crazy I'll say that when I know somebody's gonna make argument that Broc pretty silence some critics by his game winning quote-unquote performance No, Lamar finally proved that he not only can he play it? I'm just saying I'm saying Lamar finally proved that he can win playoff games in a Lamar fashion that's like Anything's Rock pretty woke up some critics.

I see I see more talk about him We're talking about tomorrow. I understand Lamar has a better resume than Josh Allen and most people say Josh He has a better He's on the same level as Josh Allen and him winning his game he was a person. No, he's got two every piece He's a hall of fame already That's right He got you got one right now. He can have two it's still a regular season world.

I've talked about he's still got to show up in the playoffs That's the thing everybody, you know and I get it because I'm with you on Lamar Hi, but at the same time Lamar's missed what how many games the last couple years Lamar? He's seen the postseason he plays great for eight games and we didn't see him anymore for rest of the season two years in a row So this is the first year that we've seen Lamar complete a season and we sing what he can do He has to cross over the hump though. He's still got to do it And that's that's just facts. He got to do it We can't just crown him the next until he's done it in the postseason music He's an untrated waters.

He going into and we talked about Patrick. He's been here So it's a little easier for him because he's been down his role before I was say he's better than Josh I don't know. He is. It's gonna be a better test.

That's how I can. Yeah He reached the level where it's like okay, you're better with daddy though Yeah, he got what it's supposed to be in that conversation if you don't you know, he's in the conversation with that You know what Tony Romo said look before the game He said if you want to be the man you got beat the man Josh Allen hasn't done that yet Lamar Jackson I want to say is only three against Patrick Mahomes in the regular season I understand he hasn't seen him in playoffs This is or I think it's one time in the playoffs. He turns in the regular season So he has not beat Patrick Mahomes yet look it's not to diminish Lamar Jackson's greatness He is a top five quarterback. He is elite.

He is a one-time MVP officially should be two-time MVP But at the end of the day like everybody that plays any type of sport knows that in the regular season You play for that name that's on the front and in the postseason you play for that name That's on the back. That's how you become a household name Lamar Jackson is definitely a household name But he hasn't you sir or even on the same pedestal as patty Mahomes So this is the opportunity to not you sir because we're you still got a lot more work to do There's a lot more a lot more a lot more a ship against a lot more super boats that you got to go to to even sniff the plateau That patty Mahomes is on but this is that first brick on that road to doing so he has to beat him And like you said Nick He has the better team this year the better defense the better offensive weapons you have to win the game I don't care even if it's ugly again. I don't care if you throw three other sections. I don't care how you get it done You got to get it done.

Yeah, I think um, I think Lamar should have silenced his critics by getting to the championship I think that he has not because Lamar Jackson is a black quarterback the people of the criticizing I don't think it's black. I think okay. I'll tell you if Lamar gets a super bowl like y'all saying that if you get some super bowl I think it won't stop there because you make it exactly people never stops right People will say you know when it's super bowl no No, because I just said this last week Nick and I know you don't know you will say that that's what I'm saying the critics will say that Bro, but you know what can't I don't give a fuck about the critics man I give fuck about the niggas that be here on Dennis works in the fans. I listen to Dennis for No, you know this is this is the point.

Well, hey that I miss you Nick I miss you this is the way some sports opinions collide Ken and I've always said it's not if you lose is how you lose I've been said that I know you said that but I'm but I'm the general popular Just don't care about that. I don't care about the general populace So you don't think he needs to win one more game and solidify his place I think that Lamar has the winner Super Bowl in order to silence the critics period point link that's it in the I mean, I mean for you to I'm saying for you to see after win this I said and I've been saying all year for me. It's a super bowl This is the way of see this week. Yeah, this is a chance to get there You got to get there and you know, he got to the championship game, but this wasn't it for me my thing was super bowl Yeah, so Do it super bowl of us this year?

I can see that I still say if he wins this next round and get to the Super Bowl I would say just like Joe Burrow took that lead because he made it to a Super Bowl Mm-hmm the same thing we would consider for it Lamar Jackson He would be right there with Patrick not Patrick my homes, but Joe Burrow Lamar Jackson Though those three with Patrick of course be a number one in the same conversation He will have surpassed Josh Allen. He was a past anybody else that you could put or tried to put on a level with him Because he's made it further than him correct. Do we ever talk about Nick falls? Not even talking about Jerrick off do we forget that he even played in the school bus?

We know what that was though. Can we know that was like she can't speak with it that jerk off maybe better Josh I will say I'm gonna forget about Joe Burrow he keep this shit off If you get back to the Super Bowl you That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying show is like if Jerrick off get this deep Detroit Lions He's in two franchises only paying many a time Brady. I've done that further.

It's not for you Like if you if he takes this line to the Super he better judge out We'll get we'll get we'll get there. Um, what that says is that Campbell's what about your German? What do you think? With this all the Martin and the Texas and that game and silos and all the critics and stuff like that I Think that you know, I think my home is the guy and I think if you beat the guy then you have to get the credit for Climbing a certain type of mountain.

I think that no, I think Lamar person I think Lamar's gonna have to win two two bowls for people to stop talking about him because Jamming hurts is kind of like poison that well where it's like I mean, what's like what's like what's just said whether he's joking or not is dead as like the reason why people It doesn't matter even if he gets there because if he gets this boy people be like, all right Well, then I was just a little bit last year. He was trashed the very next year Let's do it again And I think that in terms of the mainstream competition It'll go for me if Lamar gets there and they're competitive next year as well I think he should prove that that was not a fluke and he's like overcome a certain home, you know I'm not sure if that's fair because of the process of leading their teams there Can I have said this Jayler hurts don't look the same as Lamar looks taking his team You can see the March off off the page like we see the skill set the apprehension was can he make it through the season? Okay, can't he want to play off game after he shows he can make it through a playoff game Or excuse me make it through a play off stretch. He can make it through a season We know he has an MVP award I don't think he would have the same hurdles that a Hurts will have because the skill set is better a lot better.

Well, I think that really be Well on Ken's own, you know to be on my kinship. He's still a black man in America, right? Like so he's still gonna be given that like oh, well, we just saw this, you know We saw someone who's just like him do this last year another thing I mean like it's gonna turn into so a more Jackson is gonna be a beneficiary of that of that prejudice So and on top of that to Q's point like in Q and Ken's point I mean you could also go back to Ken Newton can lose that to go to it but like to me Lamar will be changing NFL culture by witness rule because he'll prove that a running quote on quote running QB Can actually win your franchise a Super Bowl and then he will be the greatest running QB of all time With that you know with the accolades so like that's a that's a lot that he's Lamar's carrying a lot more than the city of Baltimore on his Shoulders like he's he's doing a lot. He and I like the way how he handles it He's having a pretty on like honestly be best You don't really talk about Lamar Jackson as a quarterback for some reason, but he's worried And for a stranger, you know, we're not we don't give style points out here But it's like the media does the media is very biased in that sense So if Lamar, you know like to people's point if he throws three picks and he throws for less than 180 yards And it's a terrible like random out win and the defense makes a bunch of good plays against my homes, right?

That will be the narrative that oh the the team helped Lamar get there And if that same thing happens in the Super Bowl where Lamar stinks it up or Lamar plays average And they somehow win it becomes you know John Harbaugh and that team that it was a team of destiny It doesn't become Lamar Jackson stamped his career as this guy and blah blah blah. It'll become the team So it's all about style too for Lamar man. Sadly. Yeah, and I think the thing though is and this is another one of my favorite things Is context right like let's look at the context of his career.

He came in They was trying to switch his position, you know I'm saying came in how to prove a lot of people wrong can just a year or so ago saying that he can't throw now He's throwing out of the pocket You don't have to be able to throw 400 yards to be considered a pocket quarterback You know say he made the throws he needed to make he ran when he needed to run So at the end of the day the context of Lamar Jackson's career is ascending and and that's the reason why I said like at least for me I can't speak for everybody But for me, it's about the wins at this point because he's he's proven the naysayers wrong Oh, you can't throw from the pocket watch this. Oh, you you're not durable watch this You know say oh that type of quarterback can't win every pea I'm about to win my second like at the end of the day the only thing missing off of Lamar Johnson's resume regardless How he gets it is a super bowl. He is not proven the wrong. He is not proven the wrong.

Yeah, they still don't know giving this man credit We just had somebody say you ain't quarterback enough. It doesn't matter. That's what they're saying Well, you know Take it from him the fact that we still talk about Josh Allen in the media not we I'm sorry They talk about Josh Allen as much as they had to talk a bit about Lamar It's been about Josh Allen this whole time. So you're right.

They're ignoring like Josh I mean the Martin Jackson is being ignored by the media I think I don't want to step on Nick's point because I know he's gonna bring this up I think what you're saying is a different conversation from Lamar Jackson getting his credit the reason we all know He's black man. They pump and Josh out of it because they want that great white height. That's the point. Yeah quarterback Yeah, see C.

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I heard All these black quarterbacks my whole shit. We got a kid. We have one guess was coming out in the draft that everybody talking about Hey, look at that. Oh, I'm saying like it's gonna be like continuing They're gonna be it's gonna be a time where's gonna be like 20 quarterbacks lean franchise.

They're all black You know I'm saying and the best of them are gonna be tough for an end and eventually the NFL just gonna accept that in Bracy but right now that's why that's why we keep having these Josh Allen conversations like the game done shit Yeah, I'm like Jerig off potentially will have done more in his career You people it'd be crazy to say that with Josh Allen's talent I'd rather have Jerig off career has Lamar done anything besides MVP That's you know, but has he really done anything because he just now get into a I'm right now right now Lamar Jackson has a quarterback has put himself in a better position than Josh Allen when it comes to Actually when is something yeah, yeah, and that's why he has to win this year because that this it may not be this Well, it's not gonna be this easy ever again and what I mean by that is the level of competition that he's had to face You know Houston isn't up and coming team But this is we because you're gonna catch Houston for the next couple years and he only got to be patty in this week And team to get to the Super Bowl So it's the path is laid out and when he gets to the Super Bowl He's either gonna face one of the two teams that he smoked this year. So like you said, it's this is the year for Lamar What has to win one of the expectations? I was thinking about this when Lamar got to a championship game What are expectations for top tier quarterbacks like is it Super Bowl or championship games? Depends where they are in their career can I think in the know just just like in general when we have a guy like that is the guy He should at least get to this to solidify his career I think it depends where you are like for right now CJ strata in the next two three years You got to get to championship game.

What about his career is career at least get to Super Bowl I think that's a team thing more so yeah your team gets you to the Super Bowl if you could enough to get me to the NFC Championship game so you can talk from there Like that's not good enough to get to a NFC Championship game That's an obvious answer I'm gonna do that to you a question So if Patty if Patty gets to the Super Bowl issue They said they beat Lamar and they go to Super Bowl is that because of the team of the Chiefs or that because of Patrick Mahomes Patrick Mahomes That's an exception Okay, that's going back up what I'm saying is He's a press quarterback ever to use something was to say Brady But my what I'm saying is that quarterbacks these days because I know I have the preference of y'all is trying to come Yeah, but quarterbacks these days are the engine for why you are there. They're the whole main reason Exactly, they're always because some you know was the engine no Fuck you mean but I'm saying but some people like say Nick Foles the year Nick Foles had Trent They'll for even J. Oh certain degree like they love those is just one off You know I'm saying but to me what I'm saying is that to be consistently there I think what we're talking about when you talk my legacy is that these are the quarterbacks that led their team there No one really brings up like Patty mostly his career has shitty defense You know I'm saying It's the team help me to understand that this is the man that talks about Andy reading shit because he went to all of those NFC Championship games and then we're nothing but now he's saying that way got to Super Bowl One time one time with Philly But all I'm saying is that Nick says that the AFC Championship or the Championship Gaming shit So but now that that's okay. No expectations for quarterbats Cubes exists within the context of their team grandness and that means that if your team has like Russell Wilson you have all world LOB defense I don't think you're the engine of that team I think you are the operator of what the system calls for you when you're rock party you have an all-world skills position like track team Around you and you have a fucking gladiator in debo.

I don't think you're the engine I think that you are the operator of that system and if you are a high-level operator You can get to championship games repeatedly as long as you have the infrastructure of your organization intact If you keep a cow Shanahan if you keep people like the like the me go Ryan's at DC If you have Andy Reed and patch them home being the system there are the system There are certain guys that know how to run the system well But you don't actually have to have elite QB play to keep getting back to Championship games you have a guy who knows how to play his role and you have to have something that stands out You don't offense or defense Last six years show Grandma is what's the property in the MVP car? What's he a leading candidate MVP conversation last year last like four weeks of the four Five weeks of season. Yeah, it's that is that not is that not a is that not above average QB is not not a somebody? What I'm asking is let's just say so I guess let me add a little bit more to it So when we look at Lamar as an MVP what I'm asking is when we have quarterbacks that are the guys like if Lamar never made it to AFC Championship game, you know, how do we look at his career whether or not he won MVP or not?

Like what are the expectations when you are the absolute God? You're a top five in the league So we expect you to get to a championship game at least yes Wouldn't win the story depend on your situation So say Lamar never got the players he got in what in the situation He's in like we just talked about a perfect scenario He had a perfect storm this year if he never had a perfect storm But he still played and did miss all those games and they did well until he met a you know Joggin I wouldn't he be thought of higher still even though he didn't make championship game They did for pay man, but they don't win so far Criticizes when he was struggling to get to the Okay, then we might start this whole show is Josh Allen Philip Rivers and Philip Rivers made a whole host of AFC Championship game That's the answer to the question Philip Rivers never made it to a Super Bowl He made it to several AFC Championship games and many people considering him a Hall of Fame quarter that I was just wondering because I was like, you know with his career if Lamar never made it if he's some I lost What is Caribbean Feli and you know no because we you know we look in the first people people judge Actually, they do judge for the rivers only made it to one AFC championship game. I think Get to a championship game You should get to a championship You're talking about elite like Hall of Fame or like a leetown like that you shall He's get to a Super Bowl in my pick. No, bro This is that fella who ain't coming out here picking roses and playing fucking A lot of good a lot of good to a boat better than good quarterbacks will not make a Super Bowl because the chips will never fall in They way either they're gonna run into a pack of that they're gonna be a injury I'll do shit while I'm to them and never make it to a Super Bowl Those are the niggas we ain't even talking about because at least Dan Marino got to a fucking Super Bowl You just thought this conversation talking about fucking Justin Herbert and John Harball That's a herb and I've been making it.

We're just making just a herb to get to it. That's a good one Yeah, do we expect him with his down to get to it? No, because he proven that he's not winter, but if he a hardball a guy's the limit they say and Pete Carroll's got a line on that job to now So now well speaking of limits Hold on we got breaking news. What happened?

Doc Rivers is just accepted to coach a position in and you are lying to me You lie in I'm seeing somebody in the chat just said that Coach Nick Doc Rivers is a legend man. How do you do? Legend bro, huh? What was his record before you got for like 30 and 13?

Yeah, Adrian Griffin was something like that. Yeah. That's what he said. He was 30 and 13.

Yeah, he was second in the whole In the whole time I got a drink. I gotta get a drink. I gotta get a drink Get that do say Yes, let me tell you what the bucks on Adrian Griffin was 30 and 13 Which is second in the East time for second in the league they would be in first place when they were in Western Conference First in the league in offense second in points per game Fifth in three pointers made third in field over sentence in a fire. I bet you got a picture on the song I can't wait to talk about this Why would you go ahead what are your thoughts on on this bro?

I mean I see a first-person I seen a mean where do was like Adrian Griffin stop the meeting and says And that's it what in the role on this thing No, you know, it gives me passive aggressive when he was doing that whole interview So Adrian Griffin to me this is David Black all over again except the difference is there is no LeBron walking through that door I'm honest is definitely gonna be Hall of Fame because Hall of Fame and NBA everybody who's great makes it but Because if it matters LeBron would get way more credit than he does Credit because the people that Jordan play for some of the people that LeBron play is way different So come on. Let's talk about that. It's about the chips. Did you get it?

Did you not are we bringing? Adrian Griffin this is the same as what happened with LeBron and David Black because the difference is is that to me Y'all just doesn't have the same pedigree as LeBron to where it's just a Bible Everyone wants to keep pointing to oh the defensive net rating and the defense I'm sorry was Adrian Griffin the reason that Jimmy Butler snatched his chain last year in the year two years before that Was that why is it not justifiable? Point guard name is not going to become New Orleans Chris Paul clapping up other guards Exactly Chris Middleton's knees are cooked and he and people keep people keep talking about oh man The books me to get a reverse dog rivers solves a defensive problem That he don't do shit besides keep spam and pick a roll so yeah the pick and rolls don't get nice But in the playoffs what does that do when guys are like giving you other looks Skatego that's what no one is what happens in the NBA The head coach is 90% of the time the scapegoat those in the case of New Orleans when I was young He may not have a job after next year. No, I'm sitting still got one You got one right now, and we see magic Johnson dude is joining is done this LeBron is done this shack is done It's like hmm star players are more valuable to even a franchise in coaches There's a less amount of players and there's a smaller amount of players that are even elite at that status Most of the games ever had huh?

This is the most talented. There's ever been no one ever said but still the elite group of guys It's still only a handful of guys So what if I'm if I'm the owner or the GM for the books and the best player in my franchise history come and say hey Man, this dude got to go like why are you acting like they can't go? No, no, no, no, my only problem though is the fact that like I said you're sick in the league and wins you're sick in the league in the standings My franchise players got to be here for a rest of the game. Come to say this dude got to go They said he was gonna lock a room.

It was something going on where no matter if they were winning or not He had to go which is a weird yeah, he had this is what we know about that rivers typically At least in the first two years of whatever doctor is that the room is good because he's a player's coach And then cute what you said was that y'all just don't have to cache a what is we hold on first of all first of all The Milwaukee Bucks made a bad decision when they let JK go why because Yannes wanted him right then they went and got booted Hoser booted hoser got him to the promised land But the knock on booty hoser was he doesn't make in game adjustments game plan amazing system amazing He took yannes to a whole another level I think Jason kind of set the stage for yannes to grow and then booty hoser the benefits of that But let's be honest like game the game half to half quarter the quarter booty hoser was not even mediocre He was trash right so you got rid of him you bringing this guy if yall is his eyebrow You got to go because when you let go just kid what I say hey, bro I might be out of here when you let booty hoser girl say hey, bro I might be out of here so you win it got dang. Yeah, yannes runs that shit So if yannes has a problem I'm saying that that's a skate boat because Adrian Griffin was not there last year when Miami took They sold like that's not doing Adrian Griffith and you bring in a worst defensive point guard and expect to have a great Defense under Doc Rivers. That's complete BS and the honest has to take it countably for his game So in 2015 before Steph Curry won those next couple rings we all said man It don't mean shit because he beat the brown without okay So the Bucks win the championship courtesy of pyries that ankle and now we will yannes is that now like he's a great player And you know what I mean and Milwaukee ain't had shit since fucking So it's like so what are we really saying here? I'm not I'm not trying to discredit You're not as I said he's not top three top by whatever you want to put him in top two Some people say um he is that the difference is that the audience got a play man like the players got a guy to play I do believe that the NBA the NBA the NBA overstates and understates coaching at the same time It's so weird to me And that's why and that's why this is breaking news to me.

That's why I'm drinking now I wasn't trying to drink it again, but they got anybody they could get Cute That's my thing is like well, I agree with everything you said everything most of us all agree that it's a scapegoat thing But for y'all to come in to the Bucks office and I don't know if y'all is approved it not really we got That's to me that's to me that shows that they not win it shit this year I Somebody told me age a group got fired because he's black they had dogs I was like that can't be it so I don't know they were trying to say that he was fired You know earlier I remember earlier this in the preseason Himitary stops got into it because he was saying Terry stops was trying to undermine him Which lay the Terry starts resigning because he got into it in front of the team So it's been issues going on there for a long time They were saying like you know Terry stops was named little it's long time coach real close friend They were real close and they stayed in contact after the fact So it's been some issues there and they say they didn't believe you leave him to a championship They just felt like he wasn't the right man for the time. So what's just Yannis? It just heard him last year this year this is first year. Yeah, but my thing is why do you think doc can what what has doc because Doc let's be honest look at what a championship could it possibly one championship, but let's be honest She's the biggest head coaching poker Possibly think that doc is a plugging play like we have to go through a lot less of a grace period than another coach We can get him in and hopefully by the playoffs.

Okay. Yeah, the answer to that is yes No Spike is right, but typically when you make this choice, you don't go get the big name You go get somebody else from the staff somebody up like look at the David Blas situation that he was who who replaced him? Staff when you look at my god, I said Typically is somebody honest half because they already know you know say like they could just so now that rivers is coming in and I think is this who the fuck is damn little to say I want this I want that maybe you ain't one shit That's the reason why they're not gonna win either because they're gonna think he's he thinking that he came to his team No, nigga, you couldn't get it done over there on the West Coast So we forgot about the NBA forgot about Dame literally with him walking they really did We ever talked about Dame Little is a sense he in that shot he hit that one shot last week We're saying time that's how I'm talking about I'm like and that's okay And that's what and that's showing to your point and that's where the problem is that the bucks think that they're like this Sooped up high-power vehicle and really they just a hoopty with some good paint job and it's just like they can't They want you second in the NBA because because we can be people there the Eagles they are the Eagles of the NBA They're the Eagles we see it we see it. Oh, it looks really like they're getting a wins, but they can't guard They can't guard Betty White, right?

Like it was yeah, man It won't be much of the playoffs is what you say won't mean much when I'm saying like I'm seeing like on both ends Adrian Griffin left a lot to be you know this desire He left so much to be desired the sets that he was running off is worth really bad and the defense was terrible But defense in the NBA is nothing more than desire and just basic skiing and that doesn't change with a coach unless They're like a defense specialist like an email you doga and those are very far in between So me it comes down to Janis has to work with his coach if he's gonna be you know a pliable personality to you know Get the office right and if that's the reason he was fired I understand it But to me it's still a scapegoat because I remember this is not anywhere more pliable. He's just more of a You know we can do this in the Think about my walkie since we're here. I don't know if y'all saw this they're looking They're looking to trade for the john team Murray and add that to the fold to try to up their defensive We know this about the john team the john take a plate of two you know saying like obviously he's playing the tune Atlanta now The last thing is like if you wanted to be interesting and creative get mark Jackson because at least mark Jackson I know he knows how to instill some type of culture Yeah, I'm trying to take you out of the church It's like I read Doc River says that the Bucks are just trying to appease Giannis anyway possible and they had to go down to a nigga cuz we can talk about that championship that he won Doc River's trying to give away that Celtic title that first that first go around that I don't know every round every round with the letter Hoxel Mike Nibi was seven he gave After that it was going to think was supposed to go seven Yeah, I rivers not rivers when that D. I.

Yes, we can championship and he doesn't shit sense man Like I'm like and we've seen it last year the minute that Joel and B and James Harden's pick and roll doesn't work anymore because now You're bringing drop coverage and you bring a defender above the key that's like funnel it into the defense It doesn't work no more man He doesn't know how to make adjustments So if you're talking about a coach who is coming into save a season because other codes don't know how to make adjustments You don't bring in the doctor who's gonna kill the patient on the operating table Like that is not makes sense to me like if you're gonna do any type of coaching you bring in an offensive guy like a Dantony who's going to be score a bunch of points. They told me I'm here, but he ain't coming back I mean at least though a guy like that. You know me a guy like shit. No, he's too rigid He's too rigid.

Doc Rivers is not gonna do nothing Um, but here's the thing. I don't think it's just appeasing Jesse honest I think it's again cuz Doc is known as the the players coach So it's not just honest I think it's whatever's happening in that locker room doc can come in and make it feel good But is it gonna lead to wins is gonna lead to a championship? I don't think so at all I don't think nobody here thinks that that that's gonna happen Man people he don't he gonna die rivers gonna be down three one in a series of all three one lead and they gonna be looking To him in the huddle he gonna be doing hurts quote about how the greatest strife that we have in our lives is that we have to be better The moment is this you don't mean nothing man. She's actually coach and at the end of the day I've seen it three straight seasons with Dolan and beat he can't do anything with talent We saw with the Clippers.

He doesn't know how to adjust when people start blitzing Chris Paul They don't know how to stop the when they stop the Blake and Chris Paul pick a role It's over it's like he knows one plate and then he doesn't actually trust his coaches to be like yo Doc, we gotta make an adjustment people like who are you talking to my man? Jimmy So I really need bucks fans to recognize that bro. This is a Hail Mary play This is this is not a guy coming into saviors season. This is a season that is trying to be saved and it's not gonna be safe Speaking of seasons being saved Block party clock block pretty bro.

He saved the Niners. He saved the Niners because Jordan love was was on him bro until Jordan love choked I don't kill be kid. Don't do that too much. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's Look you just I don't know we talked about it in the post game show you and I was telling y'all He just can't run out of the pocket just throw the ball up.

Yeah, you've been doing that since I was in Detroit Like what are you doing? He's pretty quick. He was gonna get this far doing that shit. Okay.

I'll tell you that cuz he was dropping some times I that Romeo dive style out pass that other pass I was the one to Nobody would expect it him to be where he was and you know, he had a hell of a season He's earned he's about to get a deal to he's about to get some people Having to get paid Money I'll say this rock party was like thank the Lord I didn't think I don't know how to play football right cuz that was my Ass mr. Postman That was it that was it he got shaky down the stretch if he may want to those plays and you know on those last few drive I was like they just need one more touch on the game was over. Yeah, it was over. Yeah, you know You know, you got a quarterback that compete and you got probably one of the best coaches in football.

Yeah And this is why receivers have come of age and he got all those he got weapons everywhere I'm not happy. They had the Niners on the ropes that game was there for the taking But you know why okay, it wasn't necessarily because of Jordan Love the reason why they had the Niners on the ropes And here's the thing against the lines they better show that shit up But that be lined did not play up to the names on the back of that jersey Because he bowled because the way that green bay man handled them It was running the ball however wherever and just pretty much ragdolling that defensive line can you they go into into the Or Detroit come in and Detroit play the type of football that they was playing bro 49ers can lose I would have money people I would agree with you too about Detroit is like the one thing the Packers in the in the Lions having comments a good Oh, fine, but they're all lines some of them got hurt in the last game. Yeah, let's get so I don't know how that old line Is gonna be but to me that the Niners are in trouble the Niners are never let everybody else thought because you know I got some to say it well, I Yeah, I own it wasn't good, you know, it was a very ugly game and you know throughout the game I was like why the hell why the hell is Shanahan not giving Chris McCaffrey the ball He kept dropping back and he's empty sets having pretty throw the game at one point I think even spike was like why are they trying to help her to win the game? He was making no sense He and right when I tested like what is Shanahan doing?

Why is he trying to be so fucking smart like any read would do every once in a while Like what are you doing bro? And so he handed the ball and this was after Packers went up He handed the ball to Chris McCaffrey what he doing for 39 yards in a touchdown Yeah, and then he went right away from it and started throwing the ball again. You just lost debo Yeah, you know you guys are screenplays debo running around in the mess it. That's all you do So you ain't even got your guy that you trying to that's not all they do can I use this Every break out season don't do it.

Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. What?

What's that now? I don't really have a break out season. Oh, yeah, I I'm not saying he didn't have good numbers But don't act like the right party is a throw the ball down the field. No, no, no, no, no He said the receiver had a great year, but what I'm saying I'm talking about the scheme though The scheme isn't really like I know he's over time building to this whole empty set thing like he has this super confidence and Purdio whatever which is fine, but understand like Christian McCaffrey is a game breaker Yeah, you give him the ball you lean on him and when debo goes out Why do you want to go first of all you lose a talented receiver?

That's a game breaker my playmaker So why you want to throw the ball when you got Duann Jen is and somebody else coming in it made no sense Can I don't disagree what I took away from this is this and I know you love black party and you see I said Glock I never say Glock I would say Brock, but you say Brock's do I could Do it doesn't matter the weather condition they throw the same they look the same it doesn't matter if they're unfaved no one calls Brock elite No, I'm not saying that I'm calling Especially in football right because it's so final Play-off games especially provide clarity because there is weather because there is injury because there is this because debos out You know I'm saying yeah, he had an amazing final drive You know I'm saying and I know what I put in the chat I'm like hey, he he had to prove himself and he's not elite But what that game showed you was he's far from it and the MVP votes and all that type of shit No, that shit out the window with that shit out the window that game You keep it just a game show me is that I hate to say this that Nick might be right with what he's talked about all season with The arrogance of Kyle Shanahan man a lot of the stuff that you were saying came like why are you running empty back? We got a Ferrari in the backfield, bro But you put it in a hand over four tourists and hoping he can win the game for you Right before it's as good it can get you from place to place just like right? Party can but in this game where it's all the stakes are on the line It is as final as you say and we lost one of our top threat like the top threat people that we have on our team It reminded me of him losing that 28-3 lead when he was on the office of Fortnade Oh, it's like you're out here and you're being arrogant. You're trying to be pretty you're only just like oh, I'm counting And what last thing the star of this show the person who's supposed to be elite even with all those weapons is Kyle Shanahan He's the one that's coming to tell us Oh, I can win with a genuine a rapolo Oh, I can win with Trey Lance and he's being too arrogant in the sense of I told y'all Brock party was elite Bro, we don't we don't care We want you to win the game and do what you're supposed to do from a scheme standpoint.

He wasn't doing it So let me ask you this because I think sometimes there's a delicatless I don't disagree with anything that you said I think couch had a hand does get a little arrogant in his own scheme his own ability But I think there is a delicate balance of not trusting your quarterback to not again I agree 100% what everything you said, but you still got to throw some of those throws in there because if Devo gets her and then all of a sudden we just run into ball 40 times What does that do for Brock party's mental? Yeah, I'm pretty yeah Because you're gonna need on the wind you can throw it. I think is at least have balance. They wouldn't balance No, 39 times people In the backfield I'm not observing couch that I agree with everything that that spikes said I agree They should have been more balanced matter of fact.

It should have been an imbalance toward the run game It should have been an imbalanced or the run game. I don't disagree I'm not making any excuses or none of that But at the same time I also understand a guy that was mr. Relevant a guy that had a bad fucking three and a half quarters You know say there's some doesn't look forward like where are you throwing the fucking ball? That's what that's what that's what's like is talking about is he's trying so hard to make Brock look like the guy You know it brings me back to a special on ESPN where they're doing inside of calcium Mind is often coordinator and it's coach and for some reason like the segment went to like Lil Wayne because apparently they're like really good friends I can bring like a hip hop analogy here and him and Lil Wayne talk about like the expectations of being young and the industries They were in and whatnot and how they had to innovate whatnot and it just really brings something to my mind where?

You got Drake Nicki Minaj and Tiger on the team, but you try to make little twist happen like that shit don't make any No sense we are here to see Drake and Nikki bro. We are here to see Christian McCaffrey Are you and the Avengers of the skills positions and yet? You are trying to bring uncle Rico with a five step drop To make him the fucking guy and it's ridiculous because Russell Wilson We never expected Russell Wilson to be that guy in the in the in the past game It was always March on Lynch and lean on the defense put the put the ball in the hands of skills positions We can make plays and let me play with it though But you but one last point you see what happens when we try to make Russell Wilson the hero in the most key moment of his career And it came back to bite him, so I really hold couch and hands understand that bro God is a shit for years about him And Russell Wilson has never been the same after that fucking player No, but at the same time again Let me play devil's advocate if Kyle China had didn't show that type of trust in him throughout the course of game Does Bob pretty have the confidence to have that final drive? Who cares?

He should and when I'll say to that when I will say to that You wouldn't need it if I'm the biggest demerit against Shanahan in this is you seen this happen in the biggest game of your career You did the same shit with Matt Ryan up 28 to 3 or more keep going the ball like you said people Let me mix it up. Let me try to do something else I don't think we just run out the clock and y'all lost the biggest Super Bowl lead in the history of the Super Bowl And you still come you try to see the division of championship game It's arrogance as they spoke to our long like there's no need for you to do that like yeah You can mix it up a little bit. You're a good enough coach How's your head where you don't got to throw the ball 39 times and you got the Ferrari in the backfield So it just speaks to his in-game management and it goes all the way back to this project that game The most he's thrown was week three against the Giants 37 attempts He had three in two yards of two touchdowns, but other than that he's the highest after that was 32 attempts See my thing is FIFA you were talking about the conference about her he who gives a fuck I thought her Just gonna interview say I'm fine being a game manager. That's what they labeled me That's what I got to do so if you a game manager Don't nobody give a damn about you think when these fucking games and yet a one But they didn't win in a convincing way there was nothing about even though he do for 39 times He only had what barely over 250 yards in a tuddy.

You know I'm saying granted He did win the game and he had that final drive but the first three quarters or a little like you about the win this mother fucker Yeah, but Jordan love was the tisley rockin like y'all over hyperin Jordan loves game Half of them big ass that's came on my face Open my thing is this if we can get if we can look at Josh Allen's game and be give nuance as far as like if he has turnovers But wins the game. There's still nuance to that He had a bad game ish but for Josh on as good I do the same thing for a young QB who's starting his first year going in first of all He shouldn't even be in this first in this position anyway because we didn't think there's gonna be Dallas How do you get there? And then exactly now and then now we look at him going against the 49ers He's going toe for toe with a defense that we thought was supposed to be the bullies Turn a little bit like two good throws bro. Come on, bro But to build on Sheldon's point, you know, I mean to build on Sheldon's point It's different when you're joined up going against like Stefan Gilmore, right?

And then I think wide open for some reason Dan can't I'm not though. I think about the The Cowboys defense coordinator He's yeah, Quinn and Shanahan They have like a and they have like some type of shining type of link where when it gets to the biggest moment They just are doing shit that so uncharacteristic And like you know me it's so the way the way I see it for the 49ers is bringing it back to the Cowboys Like they didn't care about the ex feelings when they had Zeke Nick it run this fucking ball until they do came and be in the league for it anymore man We can go and get every single and ounce of energy out of this like stallion versus right, you know I'm saying Christian McCaffrey who is only the Christian McAfee was only by spot last year against the Eagles in the NSC championship game They had him a quarterback so it's like you you have contingency plans for this guy to be your QB But you don't have the a plan for him to be your first option He needs to be the bell cow He needs to be the entire engine of that team and Kyle Shanahan's arrogance is gonna be his downfall man Especially in the playoffs I mean Christian McCaffrey has been known to get hurt and injured at times just like Debo But the fact that you at this point at this point you give it everything you got he's gonna get 75% of the sheriff If he in my backfield, he's gonna get the ball to majority design. That's your first second and third option My thing I did my back show go ahead. I was gonna say this somebody to chat I'm also not gonna let think college just Andy without my homes He damn showing that because he had a chance to pick his QB We see what happens where Andy picked his own damn QB and what transpired he's not going to a sixth straight title game And I'm sure both from it cow shit and pick Trey Lansing where he at Lou I think I think what they trying to say is like Andy how we talk about how Andy remake them crazy calls out of nowhere Just just do some weird stuff that may have been what they would talk about when they say any without my home And the only reason why I'm up here today with jobs because I fucked up I did pick Green Bay on the post game reaction I thought I picked Sam Fran And so that's why I was hot because I seen Green Bay they had the fucking game And this and this is and again I bring up the quarterback Jordan loves in his first year starting starting and he had the fucking rough Think about if they give Jerry golf time We've seen his statistics when he got a good pocket or at least time to throw and he got I'm around same Brown and the Porter and all the motherfuckers and gives is playing like he a young Aaron Jones Like come on, bro I don't want to do this but I gotta do it something that gotta be a leader in the room Y'all gotta stop fucking hyping up this door in a love fucking game I saw a corner back fall fucking down and a mother motherfucker wide open I saw another motherfucker that failed and I got picked and was wide open I saw about two or three fucking PIs that led to easy as fucking them touchdowns and shit like that and people like this What was and then I saw a mother that jumped the game We're pretty with giving him the fucking game I don't know how to do his main fucking column and he threw it down high as pass They got tipped the picked off and then it's a motherfuckers channel Where far and you know about across the fucking field for a bunch there's something by Mary He gave the fucking game away that you could have won first of all can one Do they not screw the Packers in that in that ball placement on that fourth thing fourth and one they did I said that in the chat And I did to I'm not disagreeing with you Jordan the joke the game away But I gave him grace because it was his first year starting as a full-time starter And I get my second reason is that Matt LaFloan is a lot of credit I think we're not we're kind of glossing whole For the whole You know Partly perse I was what to turn around that second half of the season for the Packers when they look like everybody was just writing them off So win all those games to beat the number two scene in your conference like Matt LaFloan Is there's a Gucci man LaFloan?

Yeah, he does because they weren't supposed to even let's what a month ago They have been written off. They everybody still was saying it they made a mistake by keeping joy love and then they came in They want what they be the first time. I wasn't Come on, come on. Who they brought them off?

You come out Jordan? They beat the shit out of Dan Quillow. They beat the shit out of Dan Quillow. They beat the shit out of Dan Quillow.

They say Dan, Jordan love the player like shit. Dan Quillow you get a head coach though because of their loves. But the floor did a good job and I think I think even LaFloan said it or there was an interview where he said the best thing to happen with Aaron Jones got hurt And then a lot of them chance to kind of see what Jordan love could do. To me, so they all doubt.

When I had came in I don't remember what we could was and I was telling y'all look I think that Jordan love is about the turn of the corner. It was Jordan love and LaFloan were kind of going back and forth on the game plan and there were a couple of big plays that LaFloan was like hey you know we're gonna take this away and Jordan love was like no keep that in there. Like I got it. People you say that after the Dallas games when you say that.

I'm about to say let's go. Let's go back to the 24-7. So let's close it out. Jordan love was was fine.

You know he had a winnable game. It just didn't happen. And you know part of the little shaky he had erratic throws he was throwing how he was throwing left he was throwing to everybody. You know yeah I think he threw two interceptions that first one to go on their sandwich that was like easy fucking money.

That's why he played DB. He should have been out of there. So I bring all that up to say like he did not look like the MVP that he was you know earlier in the season. Especially when Debo went out but and Debo's 50-50 into this next game so it's not looking good.

Nevertheless he did answer one thing. We wanted to know. I know Nick you were lamenting about it. You kept talking about it.

Can he come back from behind and win the game? Can he do a comeback drive? He went since the 7 for 49 yards or whatever. Biggest game in the playoff game winnable in the most.

And he had 11 yards from yards too. And a big rush to get it within striking distance for CMC. So a lot of us had that question about can he win the game is on the line and your team needs you to win even the announcer were saying can you drive your team down the field and win the game. All I want to say is that they're saying all this and Kyle Shanahan is 1 for 36-37 when his quarterback.

And that was the other thing that was answered. So you put that in the chat like it was a wrap. Like this game was open and technically it should have been. But did he ask you a question Nick?

What are you talking about? What are you talking about? I'm not surprised. I'm not impressed nor surprised that Kyle Shanahan beat a 7 seed in the division.

I'm talking about Bob Purdy not Kyle Shanahan. I don't address a second niggas in command. I just said that Kyle Shanahan is the one that we give credit to. If they win the Super Bowl, which I doubt they will, it's only because Kyle Shanahan ain't going to be because of Brock Perry.

So I'm not addressing Brock Perry. But you would have wanted to talk about criticizing Brock Perry to the whole damn year. Because y'all trying to see this man. See, that's what he does.

He talk all this shit. What's for your successes? Screen your deliras and all that shit. No, because I've been saying the same thing over and over.

I said I don't address Brock Perry because he's not the one that I'm angry with. Don't criticize the motherfucking man. I criticize the motherfucking man. I criticize, I don't criticize, but I'm saying like we should never put him in conversation with other QBs that we had him in.

He's the conversation of being a good enough quarterback to come back and win in a pool and play off. No, no, no, I put him in conversation to join the show like Kevin said. That's not what I did. Brock Perry had to take it.

You know what I'm saying? And I think Shannon shot me at a really good point either today or the other day before when Joe Montana threw the catch. You know, from the corner. He had an intersection.

Joe Montana brought a party. I'm not comparing. I'm waiting for you to finish because I need to hear it. What I'm saying is that at the end of the day that last ride that Brock Perry had was great.

Right? Like you can't take that away. What you said? 49 yards and one screen.

And a scramble for 11. At the end of the day, Joe Montana, before he threw that pass, had a couple of intersections and a fumble, but he came through in the clutch. And again, I'm not elevating Brock Perry to elite status or anything like that. But there was a lot of questions Nick because I'm with you, bro.

Like I'm a believer that Brock Perry is good enough to win games because of how great the team is around him. But at the end of the day, when you have to make a game winning drive, when all the marbles are put on the table, can you get it? He did it. He answered that call.

Now there's going to be another challenge. You know what I'm saying? Coming up against the Lions. And we're going to see if the chips fall again like they didn't at Green Bay.

Can you do it again? Can you make the throws to win the game? What did I say? When the 49ers played Kansas City and that Super Bowl.

Jimmy G. Mr. 1-3, he had to make to win the Super Bowl. Yeah, you know what?

Then Green Bay DB's a cast of fucking ball. You can't count that against Brock. It wasn't knowing the section. But when the chips was on the table, he cashed them in.

Hey Luke, can I ask you a question? If I do one thing one time at a 37 times, are you trusting? Are you betting money that I'm going to do it again? No.

Okay. That's all I wanted to say. But see, you're talking very well. We're talking sports.

Hey, but you're talking about Shanahan, we're talking about Brock. You know, he's trying to be slick. Hey, it was Brock Purdie, the one that changes Miss Worsch and stuff. He got a little bit of a hit on the Brock Purdie thing.

Be all that, bro. All I'm saying is that the reason why I cut my couch in here, because if y'all put y'all faith in Brock Purdie again, trust me. Y'all going to be disappointed. And I'm not going to follow for that no more because we fell for that with Jimmy G.

And I will never do that shit again. Understand, I'm not putting my faith in Brock Purdie. I want everything to be understood. You know, but I'm going to have fun with Brock Purdie and his block.

Yeah, it's going to happen. I'm not trusting him for nothing. Spike, bro. Hold up.

You hear that? It's not like you tried my feeling. Man, your hate, bro, elite level Hayden, bro, because I know getting down well, you know, and felt the blood is probably shouldn't have been the lies, but you remain vigilant and your hate even when you were wrong, you know, they'll be in one and done, not believing them calling the brothers for all of them still. People saying they even know they're in the NFC Championship game.

And the cameras are all right, guy. All of them. Yeah, I applaud you, man, for standing on business. Absolutely.

And I'm still standing on it this week. Well, table bait was in the game. Wait, I understand. But you had to go alone, bro.

You had to fly solo because the one that got I was riding with you, this man right here left you by yourself. I know he's going to be a band-y, you're going to buy yourself. He was talking shit about the lies all season long, but when the playoffs came, he switched up on you. I never switched up.

I know. I agree with you, Spike. You didn't pick up because I didn't go in. I mean, it was a lot of the playoffs.

I wasn't clear at all. The Rams could easily beat him. They almost did. The boss were in that game and could have beat him.

He did what he do best, bro. He did what he do best, bro. He's a master at it, bro. He's a master at it, bro.

He's a master at it, bro. He's a head friend. He's a head friend. He's a head friend.

He's a head friend. He's a head friend. He protected. I didn't protect myself.

I had to make a choice. I made a choice. I knew what happened. We go ahead, dude.

Hey, can't—it's like I seen him Friday. Is you want some of this? No. I'm just like...

It's the playoffs, dude. It's like, oh... He was in the audience. I think the Lion's the winner again.

The Lion's played the Rams, I believe. I believe nothing in Matthew Stafford, you know how I feel. They should have. But, once again, I didn't expect them to.

They should have, but I didn't expect them. The same thing with Tampa Bay. And Matthew Stafford, I can't bet for either one of those guys. Why would I bet on either one of them?

I would have bet on them. Why would you bet with them? I'm just like, what do they play? I'm just like, Mike Evans.

If you don't, you know, bat that ball in the air, like, that game might be really tight all the way down to the last drive. But, you know, I want to go ahead and transition to our next guest trick trick. Come on out. We're going to talk about this.

I'm never going to Detroit. No, I'm going to Detroit. No, but Detroit looks good. Detroit looks like they have enough to really compete versus 49ers.

It's a pickle because it just depends on the Brock Party or Jerigolf get enough sleep. That's just what the game going to come down to. Yeah, and which defensive line is going to be able to get the most pressure? That's the thing too.

One of these lines is going to show up. I'm going to have to send it or it's going to be your boy. Yeah, both of them. Yeah, both of them.

One of the two is going to show up and show out. Yeah, I really think the line is going to go to the Super. Yeah, absolutely. Like I said, I'm on your side.

It doesn't sound like it. No, it doesn't sound like it. Everything is lining up your way. They're clear about the side that I'm on.

The lines don't got a shot to go to the Super. They do. Everything line up in their way. They got a better shot than the Cowboys.

That's what I'm saying. He's going to be the Super. You don't need to argue with Lou. Because he has the arbats and he thinks that that that that was going to to do anything for.

You don't need to argue with Lou. Because he has the arbats and he thinks that that was going to do anything for. I don't know about that. Not that the Cowboys.

You had that to do the Cowboys. Look, let's be honest. By PFF, the Lions have the best online in football. And I think that what we saw the week prior, who did Lions play first before they threw it?

We saw it against the Rams. We also saw it against the Bucks. Then boys pushed. Jamere gives it whatever the hell he wanted to do.

But like Nick's saying, they're missing. At least two of the linemen. It's like interior and Sierra linemen. They still should be good to go because this is the biggest game of their fucking career.

They should play. They can buy some kneecaps. But at the same time, if I'm saying that if Jared Golf has time to throw, we already know, I've been told y'all about the 49er secondary. They cheeks.

Look at Jordan. If you cut them up. And so think about Jared Golf in time. Yeah.

And you know what the Lions offense is a play action offense. So if that line does give them time, if that line is dominant. You've got the best to win. The best to win is a tandem.

Green law. What's being based on the back? Yeah. So why, and Jones, what's like a butt finish?

I got the floor is a hell of a play call. It's all that. Well, you asked me to tell you, you know what? You asked me to tell you.

You asked me to get all that. You're supposed to mitigate all that. No, no, no, no. No, no, no.

When it's a good scheme, fuck all that. You know what? It's a good scheme. You know what?

All that scheme shit don't matter what you consider one of the best. You think that scheme shit matter with the Ray Lewis Ravens? You think scheme shit matter? You think pay many?

Pay many? Go to the line and do all that shit matter. Right now, with you talking about the best defense ever. You're talking about the best life actors in the game right now, but you know what?

You're talking about generational defense now I say that to say all that play action shit. That's what you're talking about with the interior offensive line is gonna be different against the 49ers. How is it? How is it?

Because we just literally just all lasted. 49ers have a better football. You shouldn't know the 49ers secondary. Like they got a better secondary than anybody at the line.

Every time, every time his chicks, who? three p.i. bro. We got the most of the game by himself.

That's the control of the game. Right. Look, it's the end of the season. It's definitely this year.

Like I said, it's set for them to go to the line. That's what I know is what I know is what I know is what I'm talking about. It's destiny. I got it.

I'm gonna be in San Pixia, do we? I did. I'm not. I said, I'm not.

I said, I'm not. I said, I'm not. You said, pick the week that ain't F. My thing.

I said, I'm not. I'm not. I said, I'm here. I had time to date.

My time to date. I think it's that Lou just found out Matt Leforga comes to you. He's talking about the hell of a cool. He's talking about it.

How do you find out? How do you find out? How do you kick Dan Quinn? Just out there.

He didn't even get to sit out. He's a good checker. I'm a man because he was a hit record and I got home in a second half. He was walking in and was 27.

He made him step on. Give him one of the more girls. He's crazy. He's crazy.

He's crazy. He's crazy. He's crazy. But I don't know what the problem is.

If couchered him he lose the jerry golf. If couchered his legacy and he let the Detroit l Bears go to the first Super Bowl. Let me ask this is Dan Campbell but a head coach the Michael card. No, man.

Stop. I would not do that. Just give discipline. That wouldn't take it.

So we give it credit to the Cardinals. You just hating. What adjustment. You do that.

No. We're not going to get I Wow so so sad to be in Johnson it that's why bing Johnson is the hottest assistant in football the carolina pandas would kill to have Johnson they want to be in Johnson that's what they tried to hire last year we talk about a lot of people We brought up the Panthers isn't right they tried to hire being Johnson last year and this year Ben Johnson is the number one assistant on the coaching list in football What about you saying like damn Campbell to me is proved that like he elisa the leader of men You know I mean like you know I know that the data at the bottom of this video says it's 23, but we in 24 and then Campbell got it got the boys in the playoffs Man, Mike McCarthy Mike Tomlin they to the mics they not they not here So then Campbell has proven that over the last like 24 months They've been building good habits. He's been picking the right guys or he's trusted the people who need to pick the right guys And that's it's a yeah I'm saying that says something about humility or at least the intelligence to know you not that intelligence So sometimes you guys just deal with what's in front of you from an exit Exist an old standpoint I would rate him 30 seconds 100% you know he's not in those rooms I would rate him 30 minutes. He made me hire a leader of men category Like Chicago.

I mean not better than Chicago coaches and Very he has great. He is a great motivator. He is that once again You got assistance that's running those rooms you got being Johnson Like I said who's one of the top offensive minds as far as football is concerned and you got air and good Clean controlling the defense. Hold on.

Hold on. I got two things one Q. You are hilarious for calm out the oversight on the date That's I didn't even realize that I didn't see it. Nobody seen it to you Michael Jordan the summer twice and two and two Show holds the breaks on the corner because that defensive court in a bro again the secondary for the lines I should go home about either.

I think I could make a field. Let's keep it I mean, so let's Go too far Great job bringing back around rock party. I'm going to be surprised has a good throwing game on this secondary Because they both say she's I think it's gonna be a shootout I think it's gonna be if both teams can pass protect this is gonna be a 30 35 game 35 who I pick the lines I think it comes down to who you trust to win ugly You know, I mean that's what both of these energy championship I mean both these championship games come down to us Who do you trust to win ugly and you know, cuz both teams if everything goes right? You know saying on both sides AFC NFC everything goes right and everyone's game plan goes accordingly I think we all trust the Chiefs and the 49ers if the wind if everything goes perfect for both teams But if we're talking about who has to win ugly, that's where it comes down to scheme context clutch factor And then I think it factors in the lines and chiefs and that's why I'm a bit.

That's a super big easily I got lines ravis before I get into that there was a moment that's been criticized by top bowls Where the lines kneeled early and he didn't call the time out the forcing the kick it and he just was like Ah shit, we gotta know what it's so Never giving up a chance to miraculously win a game though. Honestly, not not me so but oh, but I know I was here Cuz I didn't watch the first three quarters. I think I called like the last 10 minutes of that game and But you know not where we were watching it and when they went up 14 and it was like four and four to 15 and there was a pick play that happened that Mike Evans got open and then You know, it's good cuz I told you I was like Mike Evans got to make a play you a playmaker, bro This is on you like you and Baker got to do something they score um I was like damn like that. It looked like it looked like they were gonna be in it Um, cuz it and um and and they had a shot man.

They had a shot, but very similar to join a love You know, I was walking back here I was like so what's back you're gonna do throwing a section of the form of the ball and I'll be down this way Down through interception. I don't know how in hell. He did not see that goddamn blue edge jersey That was right. He followed him the whole route.

Right Look at that bro They gotta they gotta give him like a sub Danny Dimes deal man. They're gonna give him like a 60 Branch That's what they were probably doing. I mean they did the same it could cause it was way better than Baker may feel I would say they were French they were French eyes Mike Evans before they get Baker on the contract Mike Evans The one that I'm gonna try to put some draft capital or trade them for like, you know, beef up your defense more cuz he didn't I'm not saying I would only do that if I knew I had a QB that I trusted to go get somebody else But right now Mike Evans like what Baker was working with was like upper echelon talent to come over compensate his Laka so like cuz he gets those daughter fucking ball up there Mike I was more like you'll catch it to me top goals top goals is a crash just them. You know me I always always make the joke that like man these black you bees They like Tupac and Vegas man in like the last picture man in that BMW like that's what they got Adrian Richmond black coaches is how we do each other man.

We talking to BMW is crazy And that's where I feel as though you have to look at organizational insight if they are looking in the next three years to retool Tampa Bay then you probably do trade Mike Evans in the next, you know a couple months to try to get some draft capital And then maybe you know saying the next season after that you try to get up in the draft and get a top three guy or top five guy But that's just depends on what they want to do. I think so I don't fall to him the reason why I ask Does Baker get paid because it's big is Baker still, you know, I'll be writing niggas off early It's very soon the league nation and I think it's a legitimate question only because because of the price the price that you got a Paying versus the production that you get just like Nick just said he has a leak outside talent in Tampa Bay What other team is the void of a quarterback that has those type of weapons? That's willing to pay him well He's gonna get a job no matter what he's really belongs in a league and it's just a matter of what team wants to pay him You know, he's gonna be that's gonna be a rich quarterback. That's it.

That's gonna be his role for the rich So you think like see Seattle's willing to give him that type of money? I was about to say that that New York They're about to drive Yeah, anybody to drive the game. What do you think I'm gonna drive on this year? Yeah, they got to six pick They're gonna somebody's gonna fall to New York Baker is Baker is Baker is where Geno Smith was before you had that really great year We see I don't know I think I think that he just needs to find his peak girl who's going Unlock him and not unlock like this a talent.

That's like all world another I'm saying that because you know, it's not all Yeah, but it's like find the guy who's like, bro You you make these five reads you make these three reads you make these four reads and don't do nothing else I'm the defense lean on defense, you know, so cute, but the reason why I ask that is because look Geno got what was it like 20 Million a year 15 million years. Yeah, that's like 17 We're talking 50 for for Baker. So again, who's gonna leverage two years of a hundred million dollars for Baker Mayfield because those teams are somewhat in a rebuild and It's better to have a cheap quarterback with Baker like talent and then just stack the roster Geno got three years 75 million. So that's 25 years, right?

So so at 25 for Baker I'm cool with that but you know, you know, you know, I win no playoff games nor do he win the vision You know, I'm saying he wanted the vision and want to play a part of the week is the two Either way 90 he got you he's gonna get a hundred million 90 years for 90 years for 90 like 10 years ago, you know, I mean like 10 years ago I mean everything is about inflation and like the value of dollar at the time So three for 90 is like you know, I'm saying it three for 50 like a couple years ago You know, I mean like it's nothing and I'm also thinking about the division like you said before it's gonna be shitty again next year So you're more than likely gonna have the best team and you have playoff experience on top of that because y'all know Yeah, I can beat some but y'all beat the Eagles. I'll be the roster That was way better to y'all suppose I mean Tennessee can use Tennessee, but you Tennessee to take them right now Not fuck that I'll stick I will live with I can see Minnesota taking them because they don't want to be side cousins because That's fine, but they still got him So they still gotta ride him out for at least in that's two years whether he turns it to a guy not because they drafted him I mean, she probably will ever make a movie the same guy I think the thing is if you're Tampa Bay, you know, you didn't bring Baker may feel in to win you play off games He messed up the whole damn plan. They was like they can't even get draft picks. They draft and low So what do they do now and that's why I asked like what is the markets for Baker because if you're if you're talking Tennessee We know what Baker is I don't know what will leave us is I don't know what he can be Like you got a new coach you're not breaking the bank of it.

You don't want to show you and that's that's why I'm asking What's the market money? My question would be this it's more on Tampa Bay because as I mentioned I'm just all about this Kirk's gonna be a free agent to you table baby. You look at you coming up for ACL Oh, bro any 30 seconds. I don't run and there's a guy Kirk's might be a little more talented to make a major.

I agree with you. I can get this fight I would not say I freckers say cousins. Mm-hmm. I mean, but what they make a maybe a kid say is like I beat the energy champions champions So yes, I was an Eagles fan.

That sounds like a true Eagles. I mean, I'm no Like I'm sitting at the table. I might just be the energy champion like any any division with all the hour winner division Yeah, it was my take back. So we got you guys as a Super Bowl or the web basically Super Bowl picks whenever this week Week is games FIFA who you got both both spots.

We're gonna both guys were going one and the other let's go raise cheese Give me the cheese man. I'm not picking against Patty broubs You know, look look I learned my lesson with time with Tom Brady my man fuck Tom Brady doesn't end the third And this mother fucker always won I saw it once I'm convinced Patrick Mahomes in my opinion is a better talent than Tom Brady He's done more in a shorter amount of time than Tom Brady. I'm not picking against Patrick I don't give a fuck who I could be the wide receiver out there can I'm picking Patrick Mahomes, bro Can't you people just admit that he uh, submits the group date? So let's move on Everybody said he was so fucking everybody Against Brady and Brady proves to me time again.

He what no matter what I thought so I saw it once I'm not I'm not picking against that elite level talent again. I'm picking Patrick Mahomes ride or die. He eventually started picking Brady These are hard days, man God dog Man is tough, but give me my bit and sell me see my bit and sell cuz I have not thought about it But I was excited to watch the game. Um, give me the more The more has more to prove.

Oh, well, my I'm going I'm going Ravens. You know, I picked them to get to the to the Super Bowl at the Beginning of the season. I got it. You know, I got a swivel pick left.

Okay, everybody. That's you got no No, I got both ready. Yeah, I got one left to who you got one I pick out boys right? Oh in the beginning so you play that eliminates your pick me that being saying I'm with people man.

I'm not picking against Patrick Mahomes. I gotta see I gotta see the Why did you pick the Ravens to be in the soil if they want to face patty? No, I just picked them I said y'all got that's in here. Listen to him when it got to come on.

That's your day. I mean, I heard y'all hate no patty all season You had to rent James with that one my boy I'm not thinking against I Will we only bro, we got Niners or Lions I got the alliance of course Oh well Yeah, you have you just for the record you had the line is in Chiefs Okay, Lions and Chiefs and it I got the Lions and Ravens I need no suspense. What about a she's here we go Niners, I mean, you know, I gotta stand on what I picked. I'm gonna do like you these are my guys I picked them I picked them for reasons so Niners Perties were got me a little word though And no debo to bay give me the lines.

I hate both these teams, but I want the lines when what I want to Pick 49ers at the beginning of the year. So I'm a slipper. All right. Well, there we have it.

Oh No, and the people watching and listening man stick with you boy man. I'm undefeated and he's playoff pitch I'm there undefeated. He literally picks the fucking favorites Texas was the favorites Green Bay was the favorites. Oh, you bet the Texas away face Cleveland the Organization in the fucking league I could take a photo they were the higher seat, but they weren't the favorites by Vegas Alright, let me get to this.

Let me get to these super chats, but I know you undefeated though Rig the election, bro Alright, Stephen a split possible we see Kobe and will score records be broken with how the leaguers becoming more offensive We orient it and nobody playing defense Joelle went for 70 last night in cat With for 62 MVP man, you know the next seven years I think somebody's gonna get up to 80 because the joell's doing it as a center then it's like a moment 2030 Yeah, you got to get high. I think a person who could probably do it and is maybe one that I could see it's one Donovan Mitchell You in the chat, I want to talk to the chat once again lose the stage We had a best record in the league in the in the bit. So don't I mean on the picks don't play me Right when we definitely when we could do it. What's he get right?

I pick I pick the Rams over the choice. I got one loss One loss fee that says Some of the many to be black baller said the president for that Disney Channel make a wish fake point with tomorrow Wasn't like even fourth and three or fourth or two like that play could have worked on that but like you asking for a whole half of a Dow like I'm saying like throw the balls you want to go for it on fourth You see you see the videos of like World War II veterans come back to the two like they teams and they get like a honorary like running. That's all that shit looks like man. Oh Like what bro run the ball It probably just failed out.