EPISODE · Jun 11, 2026 · 47 MIN
Nice Doesn't Win - On Boundaries, Big Systems, and Being Yourself
from Design Review - podcast for Engineering Your Life · host Robert
I met Kelli Boyden in the weird corner of LinkedIn and knew within five minutes I needed to have her on the show.Kelli spent 25 years as an attorney fighting for people being pushed out of their homes and denied insurance coverage by systems that were never designed to let them in. Then she walked away, went to Cornell, got an MS in pharmaceutical science, and built something entirely new.In this conversation we talk about fighting big systems, the cost of being nice for too long, and finding your people by simply being yourself.And somewhere in the middle of it all, Kelli asks me if I know anyone who teaches a workshop on boundaries.I might have mentioned one - join us June 19 and 26. Here is the link to register: http://www.engineeringyourlife.net/boundaries-workshop Engineering Your Life: https://www.engineeringyourlife.comConnect with Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelliboyden/Kelli's website: https://kelliboyden.com
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I met Kelli Boyden in the weird corner of LinkedIn and knew within five minutes I needed to have her on the show. Kelli spent 25 years as an attorney fighting for people being pushed out of their homes and denied insurance coverage by systems that were never designed to let them in. Then she walked away, went to Cornell, got an MS in pharmaceutical science, and built something entirely new. In this conversation we talk about fighting big systems, the cost of being nice for too long, and fin...
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