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EPISODE · Nov 4, 2025 · 58 MIN

NICK THOMPSON | Breaking Bad Legacy

from Order of Man · host Ryan Michler

Whether we acknowledge it or not, there are certain behaviors and mindsets that are etched into our psyche by our fathers. And, if we cannot be aware of what they are, we lose any hope of having power over them and charting new paths for ourselves and our children. Today, I'm joined by Nick Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic, to talk about the legacy his father left and how he is trying to break the string of mindsets that hindered, not helped. We talk about how do adapt when plans don't work, the power of the meritocracy, how to overcome the victimhood mentality, creating powerful and healthy outlets, and the mantras that have served him well and that he wishes to instill in his children. SHOW HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 – The New York Marathon disaster 02:00 – Pushing through with mantras 03:40 – Planning, pace, and preparation 05:30 – Travel stress and overcommitment 07:37 – The power of mental reframing 08:11 – Continuous forward motion 10:35 – Learning from past failures 11:58 – "On to Cincinnati" mindset 15:23 – Lessons from failure and legacy 20:29 – How his father inspired running 21:34 – Finding identity through running 23:35 – Parenting and discipline 25:32 – Lockdown marathon story 27:40 – Breaking generational cycles 30:57 – Lessons from his father's downfall 33:18 – The danger of victim mentality 37:17 – Teaching resilience to his sons 39:13 – Soccer as a meritocratic equalizer 42:07 – Shared humanity through sport 45:01 – The importance of men talking openly 46:01 – Running as leadership training 48:21 – Endurance, pacing, and goal setting 49:59 – The Running Ground book 50:38 – Closing remarks Battle Planners: Pick yours up today! Order Ryan's new book, The Masculinity Manifesto. For more information on the Iron Council brotherhood. Want maximum health, wealth, relationships, and abundance in your life? Sign up for our free course, 30 Days to Battle Ready

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