No Cross of Jesus/Dr Pat Holliday/Dr Sabrina Sessions/Marshall Perot

No Cross of Jesus E.W. Kenyon wrote mockingly, “We have sung `Nearer the cross' and we have prayed that we might be `Nearer the cross' but the cross has no salvation in it. It is a place of failure and defeat” (Advanced Bible Course, p.279). Does this sound familiar? It should. Kenneth Hagin copies him, (as he did most of his theology) saying, “Do you think that the punishment for our sin was to die on a cross? If that were the case, the two thieves could have paid your price. No the punishment was to go into hell itself and to serve time in hell separated from God...Satan and all the demons of hell thought that they had him bound, and they threw a net over Jesus and they dragged Him down to the very pit of hell itself to serve our sentence.” If Jesus was not victorious on the cross, he was not victorious at all! Yet these same men will teach by his stripes we are healed. Which is it? Are we healed for our sicknesses at the cross and not for our sins? Kenneth Copeland  No Cross Copeland says “I've had people die on me standing there saying bless God you ain't gonna die. And they did anyway and I'm glad I stood, and I'm glad I stood, and I'm glad I stood. I ain't never stood for anything in my own life that didn't come to pass. I can only use my faith just so far with you.” Copeland is saying that his faith works efficiently and successfully for himself but for others it is not optimum strength. Yet it is not his fault. He teaches faith never fails, especially for himself. So where is God in this. It’s all dependent on him—his faith, his power, his will. But it can fail for you.