EPISODE · Feb 25, 2026 · 36 MIN
No flat whites! How Chiara and Dani Turilli started their exquisitely – and sometimes annoyingly – authentic Italian trattoria
from What’s the Difference? A Woolies Food Podcast · host Woolworths
What does authenticity taste like? For siblings Danillo and Chiara Turilli, it’s their late dad’s ragù, 72-hour fermented pizza al taglio, and occasionally swearing at one another in Italian. In this emotional episode, Chiara cries several times, tells stories about how the siblings fought in Rome, and Dani compliments her on public record for the first time ever. Iconic. The founders of Lello’s Trattoria, Aperitivo Bar and Caffè share how growing up in restaurants shaped their food philosophy, why you won’t find flat whites on their menu, and how a heartbreak-fuelled renovation became one of Cape Town’s most beloved Italian spaces. Plus, Thulisa Martins, Senior Product Developer at Woolworths, joins The Cold Seat to explain how San Marzano tomatoes are now grown locally from imported Italian seeds… and why authentic products must still be imported. New episodes every Wednesday Brought to you by Woolworths Produced by POP24 Shop the Snack & Yap products: https://www.woolworths.co.za/cat/_/N-o3pw8w?Exact=true Our legal team wants you to read this disclaimer: https://bit.ly/4s4MKux Learn more about Lello’s: https://www.instagram.com/lellosdeli/?hl=en See more from Chiara: https://www.instagram.com/chiaraturilli/?hl=en And Dani: https://www.instagram.com/danillo_turilli/?hl=en
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No flat whites! How Chiara and Dani Turilli started their exquisitely – and sometimes annoyingly – authentic Italian trattoria
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