No flat whites! How Chiara and Dani Turilli started their exquisitely – and sometimes annoyingly – authentic Italian trattoria episode artwork

EPISODE · Feb 25, 2026 · 36 MIN

No flat whites! How Chiara and Dani Turilli started their exquisitely – and sometimes annoyingly – authentic Italian trattoria

from What’s the Difference? A Woolies Food Podcast · host Woolworths

What does authenticity taste like? For siblings Danillo and Chiara Turilli, it’s their late dad’s ragù, 72-hour fermented pizza al taglio, and occasionally swearing at one another in Italian.  In this emotional episode, Chiara cries several times, tells stories about how the siblings fought in Rome, and Dani compliments her on public record for the first time ever. Iconic.   The founders of Lello’s Trattoria, Aperitivo Bar and Caffè share how growing up in restaurants shaped their food philosophy, why you won’t find flat whites on their menu, and how a heartbreak-fuelled renovation became one of Cape Town’s most beloved Italian spaces.   Plus, Thulisa Martins, Senior Product Developer at Woolworths, joins The Cold Seat to explain how San Marzano tomatoes are now grown locally from imported Italian seeds… and why authentic products must still be imported.   New episodes every Wednesday   Brought to you by Woolworths   Produced by POP24    Shop the Snack & Yap products: https://www.woolworths.co.za/cat/_/N-o3pw8w?Exact=true   Our legal team wants you to read this disclaimer: ⁠https://bit.ly/4s4MKux   Learn more about Lello’s: https://www.instagram.com/lellosdeli/?hl=en   See more from Chiara: https://www.instagram.com/chiaraturilli/?hl=en   And Dani: https://www.instagram.com/danillo_turilli/?hl=en  

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